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Hmm.. I don't feel any of these explanations are the reason this particular Cap stopped talking to me in particular.

But then agsin, maybe it is for one of these reasons. He won't respond though, so I don't know.
How long since he stopped responding?
We hung out on Thanksgiving (he invited me). Chatted briefly the next couple of days or so. I invited him out a week after Thanksgiving. He never responded or showed up. I texted him the next day "So I'm guessing you are either busy/preoccupied, or you changed your mind. Again." He immediately responded "ANDALUSIA CHILL OUT! Get out of your head. You're worrying too much." I've reached out a couple times since then but haven't heard back. I told/texted him this past weekend "You are hurting my feelings." No response.

So it's been 3 weeks to a month since I've heard from or seen him.
Sounds like you were too much for him ... in his POV. Maybe stop contacting for a while?
We've known each other 2 years though. And I pretty much told him what I need and how I am (which he responded with "I know"). So he kind of knew what he was getting into and signed up for it regardless. I feel.
Would it be okay if I ask what you had said to him about how you are and your needs?
I told him consistency and communication were important to me, and that I was not in the market for anything casual.
When he said that you worry too much and told you to chill out, it sounds like he feels like you're not giving him the space or freedom that he wants or needs and the contact from you following the incident when he has been silent, may have reinforced that opinion. It might be that he thought you were more demanding of him than what he had perceived from what you had initially told him.

But he could just be a jerk as well.

IMO 🙂
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I actually admire Libra's diplomacy and teamwork , what gets me is having to always ask about everyone else's opinion on the dumbest shit... I prefer self judgment.

Also not saying how they really feel unless really pushed.
Well, there are benefits for getting a different view. It's essentially what a lot of threads on DXP is about. As good as your or any one person's judgment is, I think bias always creeps in and can affect how you reach your conclusion.

IMO 🙂
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Capricorn values efficiency over alternative opinions.

Opinions are only needed the topic is important.

As one of my professors once said, " Opinions are like assholes everyone has one."

It's being indecisive and needing to be reassured about small stuff again my opinion.

That is the opinion of a first house Mercury and nothing in the 7th but guess what I have Libra Midheaven.


I act very Libra like in the diplomatic sense but less do u think this shirt and tie is a good combo?

In know what looks good

That's a bad example

Libras need to be reassured a lot
Honestly I could ask for more advice but I only ask advice about career shit and shit that will effect my life long term.
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I actually admire Libra's diplomacy and teamwork , what gets me is having to always ask about everyone else's opinion on the dumbest shit... I prefer self judgment.

Also not saying how they really feel unless really pushed.
lol @ you thinking that libra is asking your opinion because they really give a shit. 😛
It's not my opinion it's everyone's. Caring too much about social desirability and afraid to rock the boat.
you say 'caring too much' because you are seeing it from your perspective only. because 'you' care too much of what others may think.

libras could give a rats ass about your opinion......they ask to *appease* you. it's called social etiquette.

hell, they already know what tie they are wearing with that suit....they are a fucking libra! 😄
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I said the clothing was a bad example.


U see it your way I see it my way.
They do care.

They are not appeasing me. I'm appeasing when I give my opinion. Because they probably aren't talking about anything important anyway

It's not they always care, they always don't care. You act like they don't care it's just social etiquette.


I think most social etiquette is stupid and counterproductive...

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all air signs are intellectuals and information gatherers.

when you attempt to describe them, you really need to take your perspective completely out of it.

"They do this because....."I do this because I feel this"......". No.

Just because you feel something doesn't mean their actions have the same triggers.
I went to college I know about biases
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I actually admire Libra's diplomacy and teamwork , what gets me is having to always ask about everyone else's opinion on the dumbest shit... I prefer self judgment.

Also not saying how they really feel unless really pushed.
lol @ you thinking that libra is asking your opinion because they really give a shit. 😛
It's not my opinion it's everyone's. Caring too much about social desirability and afraid to rock the boat.
you say 'caring too much' because you are seeing it from your perspective only. because 'you' care too much of what others may think.

libras could give a rats ass about your opinion......they ask to *appease* you. it's called social etiquette.

hell, they already know what tie they are wearing with that suit....they are a fucking libra! 😄
I said the clothing was a bad example.


U see it your way I see it my way.
They do care.

They are not appeasing me. I'm appeasing when I give my opinion. Because they probably aren't talking about anything important anyway

It's not they always care, they always don't care. You act like they don't care it's just social etiquette.


I think most social etiquette is stupid and counterproductive...

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Perfect example of Libra being to concerned with social etiquette. There are like 4 or 5 us going out and everyone is cutting in line. Everyone not just us a lot of people. The other people were not even mad that they were getting cut (did not voice opinions or give off body language. Libra doesn't cut he stays behind. Too scared to step on someone's toes.It was also like his 2nd time out... College town u cut if u can.
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all air signs are intellectuals and information gatherers.

when you attempt to describe them, you really need to take your perspective completely out of it.

"They do this because....."I do this because I feel this"......". No.

Just because you feel something doesn't mean their actions have the same triggers.
What makes you think their triggers are the same as mine. I know they are different. That's blantantly obvious. For you to think that I can't understand their motives whatever. I know about Libras my brother is one and I lived with them.

Understanding something and liking it is different
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smh.....lol

you really don't like libras. 😛
Smh I like Libra women more.

I don't hate Libras.

I'm programes differently

I don't need others approval.

They do...
..gem and cancer moon with Aires Mars agrees w me and he has lived there an extra year. He sees all the a qualities I see..


Libra boy is Cancer moon and Scorp Mars

He has no idea who he is

Thank God he is good at CPUS.

LIBRA doesn't like me but could never talk to me about it.

Every set of his friends he introduced me too I always felt out of place. I had nothing in common with them.

I only related with his frat bros.

His frat bros thought he was a pussy too.

He transferred schools that had to do with it. He was looked at as both a black sheep and a pussy.

He didn't even say happy birthday start convo with someone who had the same birthday as him at the bar on his 21st...

Pussy... Shy pussy

Wouldn't talk to anyone at the bar outside his circle...


In had to start convo with some girls to make things interesting BC they were being lame.
I was the only one of the 3 roomies who went out with him for his 21st on a fucking Wednesday when he should have gone out Tuesday at midnight. Oh I have to have to study....


Weak get your work done before.


Tuesday nights are millions of times better


I hate Libra's but it was me the bitter Cap who dealt with him while the other roomies ditched him.

How inconsiderate of me 🙂
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I don't need others approval.
no, your aqua venus doesn't need approval at all.....but your cap sun is very concerned about image. it's all over your last post.
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Yes but I'm more independent and decisive is them


When my money is right everything is in place.

Yes caps care about image more so status and position

I just feel like Libras are too obsessed w others appproval and social etiquette.
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I don't need others approval.
no, your aqua venus doesn't need approval at all.....but your cap sun is very concerned about image. it's all over your last post.
Yes but I'm more independent and decisive is them


When my money is right everything is in place.

Yes caps care about image more so status and position

I just feel like Libras are too obsessed w others appproval and social etiquette.
you are obsessed with money, status, position and image.

they are obsessed with others approval and social etiquette.

is there really one worse than the other?

to a scorpio, both lists of those priorities suck salty rocks. 😈
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Agreed

You are a formidable debater.

Even though you miss some of my key points at times( maybe BC your different values 🙂


Trust me I see your view.

Scorps want power and control--you might not but that is the shadow side of Scorp.

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Yes but I'm more independent and decisive then them .
....and this is what I was talking about in Rein's thread about the measuring stick.

Nobody cares. The "Royal" nobody. Only *you* care.

We all have something different to bring to the table. Nobody is better than the other. We are all just different.
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I know. It's just how you feel about Caps you understand them there is just things about them you don't like. I pointed out the Libra ones.

The one I hate more than any is how they don't confront people when they have a problem, another notorious Libra thing. Just like aforementioned Libra boy who would dog his bear his best friend behind his back and never would say anything to him.

Virgo moon would nicely point out what it doesn't like.

Take the advice or not.

If something really bothers me about a friend, they either won't be my friend or we will discuss it.
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Yes but I'm more independent and decisive then them .
....and this is what I was talking about in Rein's thread about the measuring stick.

Nobody cares. The "Royal" nobody. Only *you* care.

We all have something different to bring to the table. Nobody is better than the other. We are all just different.
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That's why I get INTJ on my personality test thing a lot.

INTJS place value on everything- is a hierarchy to them.

I'm actually an ambivert and my judging goes to percieving sometimes too.
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I don't need others approval.
no, your aqua venus doesn't need approval at all.....but your cap sun is very concerned about image. it's all over your last post.
Yes but I'm more independent and decisive is them


When my money is right everything is in place.

Yes caps care about image more so status and position

I just feel like Libras are too obsessed w others appproval and social etiquette.
you are obsessed with money, status, position and image.

they are obsessed with others approval and social etiquette.

is there really one worse than the other?

to a scorpio, both lists of those priorities suck salty rocks. 😈
Agreed

You are a formidable debater.

Even though you miss some of my key points at times( maybe BC your different values 🙂


Trust me I see your view.

Scorps want power and control--you might not but that is the shadow side of Scorp.
it's because we both have mercury in sag.....we probably get about 85% of what each other is trying to say.....the rest is still sitting in our heads 😄
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What house is your Mercury?
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The cap didn't like something you said or did the last time you were in touch
They are sulking about something
They are too busy in their own world to notice that they haven't been in touch
They are forgetful
We are not forgetful if we care about the person (rarely we are forgetful) unless they made us not give af.
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You're a CAP??

Where's your moon?

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Hmm.. I don't feel any of these explanations are the reason this particular Cap stopped talking to me in particular.

But then agsin, maybe it is for one of these reasons. He won't respond though, so I don't know.
How long since he stopped responding?
We hung out on Thanksgiving (he invited me). Chatted briefly the next couple of days or so. I invited him out a week after Thanksgiving. He never responded or showed up. I texted him the next day "So I'm guessing you are either busy/preoccupied, or you changed your mind. Again." He immediately responded "ANDALUSIA CHILL OUT! Get out of your head. You're worrying too much." I've reached out a couple times since then but haven't heard back. I told/texted him this past weekend "You are hurting my feelings." No response.

So it's been 3 weeks to a month since I've heard from or seen him.
Sounds like he put you in time out, until you get yourself sorted. He'll check back in at some point and gauge your reaction.
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Oh grrrr. I hope that's not the case. I'm not a child!
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When you say behavior modification, do you mean Withholding until the other falls in line and modifies their behavior? Or seeing how much the Withholding hurts the other person and modifying your own behavior?
The former. Good communication is something I've learned over the years, but it's totally not our strong suit. Don't wanna speak for all of us, but I've noticed it with other Cappies as well. Making the mistake of thinking we're speaking volumes with our silence. Remember, we're sea goats. The passive aggression can be strong with the unevolved.
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No, you're probably right. He's mentioned before his family is not good with open communication.. or communication in general.

Whether it is actually a family trait or specific to him remains to be seen.
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Wow. Talk about hijacking a thread.
The question was answered.

This is classic where did Cappy go?

Why isn't he talking to me

Answer-- he's not ready to be in a relationship w and you don't even know him well but you want him to be your everything.

Proper etiquette is to say hey I am Mr. Capricorn and I don't think this will work.

Or Mr. Capricorn should say hey maybe we can do something x time when I'm not busy.

For bow she is not apart of his agenda.


Like it or not

At least frostey has social etiquette and would have told her something.

Though any sign can ignore people--it's just one is hot the other is cold.
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Wow. Talk about hijacking a thread.
The question was answered.

This is classic where did Cappy go?

Why isn't he talking to me

Answer-- he's not ready to be in a relationship w and you don't even know him well but you want him to be your everything.

Proper etiquette is to say hey I am Mr. Capricorn and I don't think this will work.

Or Mr. Capricorn should say hey maybe we can do something x time when I'm not busy.

For bow she is not apart of his agenda.


Like it or not

At least frostey has social etiquette and would have told her something.

Though any sign can ignore people--it's just one is hot the other is cold.
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I disagree with the bolded part. Completely.
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Hmm.. I'm beginning to think Caps and Virgos are not compatible. At least romantically speaking.
Here is why it could easily be a disaster with Cap and Virgo.


Virgos are nicer than Caps and giving.

Virgos are very critical, probaly more so than Caps (maybe this is my sag traits talking not my Cap)

Anyways a Capricorn could easily take advantage of a Virgo, because they are loving and giving and don't see things as a business exchange.
Virgo doesn't see things like a business exchange that's why in many ways they are like an Earthy Libra. Difference between Virgo will critique the hell out of people in whatever form, but Libras are usually " nice" about it.

Even though they are both practical and earth signs Cap is more likely to take advantage of Virgo then the other way around. A Virgo should never take advantage of a Cap, unless the Cap is desperate or that Virgo is Beyonce or somebody like that.
Remember relationships are less on the totem pole for Caps.

Virgo like to serve others and IMO are more dependent on others and what they think.

One of the Virgo mottos is I want ri be appreciated, they need to feel appreciated so they are more prone to seek that through relationships.

Caps only have relationships BC it's almost a taboo. It takes a while for Caps to be ready for love while all you fire and air signs are playing the field especially younger, Caps watches all of you cry in dissapointment as it is much more protective of its heart.

It's just what people do.

Cap would rather get to the top of the mountain first and then invite people and its mate.

If Cap is only half way up the mountain--you better be the shit stopping him for reaching the top---

Some Caps just want to be happy and aren't ambitious, but your values have to match.

This is a pairing where it clearly is important.

Both is these signs usually have strong values.

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Wow. Talk about hijacking a thread.
The question was answered.

This is classic where did Cappy go?

Why isn't he talking to me

Answer-- he's not ready to be in a relationship w and you don't even know him well but you want him to be your everything.

Proper etiquette is to say hey I am Mr. Capricorn and I don't think this will work.

Or Mr. Capricorn should say hey maybe we can do something x time when I'm not busy.

For bow she is not apart of his agenda.


Like it or not

At least frostey has social etiquette and would have told her something.

Though any sign can ignore people--it's just one is hot the other is cold.
I disagree with the bolded part. Completely.
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You care more than him that's my larger point
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Wow. Talk about hijacking a thread.
The question was answered.

This is classic where did Cappy go?

Why isn't he talking to me

Answer-- he's not ready to be in a relationship w and you don't even know him well but you want him to be your everything.

Proper etiquette is to say hey I am Mr. Capricorn and I don't think this will work.

Or Mr. Capricorn should say hey maybe we can do something x time when I'm not busy.

For bow she is not apart of his agenda.


Like it or not

At least frostey has social etiquette and would have told her something.

Though any sign can ignore people--it's just one is hot the other is cold.
I disagree with the bolded part. Completely.
You care more than him that's my larger point
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Ahh, gotcha. That makes more sense.
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Hmm.. I'm beginning to think Caps and Virgos are not compatible. At least romantically speaking.
Or maybe it's my other placements that are chomping at the bit. Idk.
What are your other placements?
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Sun virgo
Moon cancer
Merc virgo
Venus Leo
Mars Leo
Saturn Scorpio
Jupiter Aqua
Ascendant Cancer... cancer/Leo cusp I guess. If there is such a thing for rising signs.
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I'm not looking at dating you I'm just comparing charts 🙂

I see lot's of problems how would they work with your moon (hit or misss--can be many misses if they are not emotionally mature)

I have Virgo moon so that works

Leo Venus is very loving--outgoing and affectionate but needy IMO

I have Cuspy Aqua who knows about that one

You have Mars Leo too damn

They probably think you are needy af (Caps, especially this one)

Then of course Cancer moon (emotionally needy)

Cappy needs some fire

You have a lot of fixed and yes cuspy Ascendants matter in regards to aspects.

Cuspy Ascendants can make it hard for others to read you as you vacillate.


I would almost recommend Scorpios but they need air or fire for your Leo placements--and hopefully their sun doesn't square it BC Sun square Mars is hell. (Especially for women)

Actually Cancer would be better match if they have some fire and are manly.

You could even go Leo depending on his placements.
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I'm not looking at dating you I'm just comparing charts 🙂

I see lot's of problems how would they work with your moon (hit or misss--can be many misses if they are not emotionally mature)

I have Virgo moon so that works

Leo Venus is very loving--outgoing and affectionate but needy IMO

I have Cuspy Aqua who knows about that one

You have Mars Leo too damn

They probably think you are needy af (Caps, especially this one)

Then of course Cancer moon (emotionally needy)

Cappy needs some fire

You have a lot of fixed and yes cuspy Ascendants matter in regards to aspects.

Cuspy Ascendants can make it hard for others to read you as you vacillate.


I would almost recommend Scorpios but they need air or fire for your Leo placements--and hopefully their sun doesn't square it BC Sun square Mars is hell. (Especially for women)

Actually Cancer would be better match if they have some fire and are manly.

You could even go Leo depending on his placements.
Oh. Well if cusps matter, then my Mars is on the cusp too between Leo and virgo.. 29 degrees Leo.
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The cap didn't like something you said or did the last time you were in touch
They are sulking about something
They are too busy in their own world to notice that they haven't been in touch
They are forgetful
We are not forgetful if we care about the person (rarely we are forgetful) unless they made us not give af.
You're a CAP??

Where's your moon?

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Um well it could be a variety of reasons really. On the negative end, if I feel as though someone has no purpose(as in all take and no give)in my life-I withdraw.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, often I just have nothing to say. I forget often, regardless if it's a close friend or not. I often just don't feel the need to text Or talk to the same person often. With friends there's just no need, ironically sometimes more So if we're close. The iron bond has been established-superficial conversation isn't necessary.


It's just something that I(not sure about other caps)do. I never think much of it-is this regarding a relationship where constant correspondence is standard? Like in a partnership? Or datingwise?
I forget to BC I've met so many people they do the same shit to me so we are even 😄
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I don't hate Libras.

I hate Libra's
lol wut?

now you sound like a libra 😄
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When I said I hate Libras I was being fecetious. I was actually mocking the fact that u think I hate them.

I feel about them the way you probably feel about Caps
You might admire things about them but your values are different on maybe something important enough to cause tension.

I know how Libras operate...
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The cap didn't like something you said or did the last time you were in touch
They are sulking about something
They are too busy in their own world to notice that they haven't been in touch
They are forgetful
We are not forgetful if we care about the person (rarely we are forgetful) unless they made us not give af.
You're a CAP??

Where's your moon?
Libra moon
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Oh.


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Lol capricorns sound like jerks.
Sorry, didn't mean to offend your whiny, sensitive moon vicariously through Elle. I'll be more careful next time 😉
NOT YOU. I was talking about what frostey said about how capricorns treat their girlfriends (I dont actually believe all caps are like that...or are you?), but now, yes you. And you're the sensitive one! :p
A trophy is something you are proud of.

What is wrong with a woman who makes you proud.

Don't you want someone who makes you proud?

In the end all relationships are business contracts whether you want to use that terminology or not they are.

Person x offers this

Person y offers this

Can we work together and be profitable (happy and grow together)


That's how it works
That's like the definition of shallow. Whatever works for you though.
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Having someone who makes you proud is shallow?

Blatantly knowing that you offer this and I offer that and this is how it can or can't work is shallow?

You just don't like the word trophy it means something different to Cap energy.

You are looking at it as if it is an object (in this situation) you can't look at it that way. That's not how I mean it.

A trophy is something you worked hard for and accomplished and won.

In this case you won someone's heart and hopefully they win yours.

Everyone shows their mates off like trophy's because they are proud that they won their hearts.

If you don't feel proud when showing off your mate the mate is probably just a rebound or lame.

Relationships are business contracts...

You look at terminology like trophy and business contract and it abhors you. You look at the words but not how it is being used.

Kitten La Rouge understands perfectly.


We all have resumes that are presented to the other person and it's either accept or decline, mutually or one way.


You act as if I straight up say hey what do you offer me. Oh you offer me nothing fu.

It's done internally through my thought process and then I discuss things in a Libra like manner unless my bad side comes out and they piss me off.
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Posted by elllesque
You really don't want to compare anything to kittenlarouge..... I know you are fairly new to the boards.....she is the biggest catfish here.....like verified catfish-seen-with-our-own-eyes....she has also bend 23 for the past five years. Take care with that.

We don't even know if she is a capricorn.....all we know is the chic's Facebook page and pictures she was trying to use as her own was a capricorn.
I know about LA Rouge. The what if post was like 300 pages. I wish I could read it.
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Posted by elllesque
It is the definition of shallow though.....no matter how you try to explain that away.

Just because you are okay with that doesn't mean unsuspecting potential partners are.

Give them the same opportunity to take a look at that and let them decide whether they want to sign up for such things.
It's not like a tangible business deal...yikes this is the 15% where we don't agree. I can't make you understand.

Your response is probaly I know it's not tangible.

Still there probaly isn't away for us to understand or agree in this.
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Posted by elllesque
It is the definition of shallow though.....no matter how you try to explain that away.

Just because you are okay with that doesn't mean unsuspecting potential partners are.

Give them the same opportunity to take a look at that and let them decide whether they want to sign up for such things.
It's not like a tangible business deal...yikes this is the 15% where we don't agree. I can't make you understand.

Your response is probaly I know it's not tangible.

Still there probaly isn't away for us to understand or agree in this.
Let's say you get an internship at this kick ass company and you have all the qualifications. You are doing so well, working overtime, fitting in....you absolutely love it....boss has even mentioned several times that you are likely to be hired in as a permanent employee....

Then one day, you go into the office and all your shit is gone....and there is a security guard there waiting to escort you off the premises....you look around and nobody will even make eye contact with you. The boss's door is closed and the blinds drawn so you can't see in.

You grab your shit that was packed in a recycled box and the guard walks you all the way out to the parking garage and watches you like a hawk until you leave.

How would that make you feel?

Regardless of the situation, it's the same damn feels. 😄
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That means I really wasn't qualified to begin with 🙂

So how does that relate to my metaphors?

I'm assuming both parties are aware and on board and both fulfill it.

Of course you could have early termination.

Are all relationships supposed to last forever?

Nottt...

We all get hurt...

Aw. I was hinting that both parties will assess the relationship (business contract and no funny business takes place).