
wildvirgo
@wildvirgo
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Posted by Damnata
Boy does this shit sound familliar. Also a Virgo chick who's been with a Cap for 3 years.
Capricorns are creatures of habit. If further down the line you get married to him, you'll have to get along with his family.
I tried to do the reasonable thing and get along with everybody early on, didn't work, his mother hated me. We lived together and that woman called me every day to ask me what I'm cooking for her son. Multiple discussion with him because I didn't think it was my right to intervene, nothing changed. One day I blew up and told her if she's that concerned with his eating habits, he should go back to living with her, as I have a life on my own to watch for and I'm not a babysitter.
Honestly, nothing you will say or do will help. It's probably draining for you to see him tired all the time but talking about this won't alleviate matters. He needs to hit rock bottom - as in be completely drained of everything. I'd stay away until that happens and I'd think really well if I mesh all well term with someone who has no concept of boundaries.

Posted by wildvirgo
I feel like giving him some space (going and staying with friends, not making any plans with him) and waiting until he comes back to me and tells me he is exhausted and needs to recharge with me (which he generally will, after a while). There are plently of friends I can see and things I can do, but I resent being expected to organise my life around his. He is important, but not more important to me than my own well-being.

Posted by Impulsv
Do u understand that is his nature. Some people are family values that u may define over bearing. Me n ex had those difference n he tried to cut me off to once a month family visits with sister n parents n cut off from extended family. What do u think happened. He wanted me all to himself. Not that thats what ur asking but he killed my good giving nature. Well he didn't I chose n sake for marriage. In the end it made me misarable depressed, not who
I was. In the end he said I shouldn't have to give up my family. 8 yrs finale.
U can't change someone's nature it is cruel. Yes boundaries are needed but u need to realize part of it is his nature.
It's just different values. I found me ex cold only seeing family on holiday never really doing or extending himself not a giver. He found me to giving. Not a match.


Posted by Montgomery
Sounds like he is overburdened with perceived obligation.
If he doesn't do these things, who will?
And people, as you've clearly seen, will run to him because they can count on him-- but that, I've found, is all too frequently abused.
As someone said before regarding boundaries, maybe lead by example with less ultimatums-- he doesn't see that he's doing anything wrong-- quite the contrary.
And Caps-- you *can* talk to them-- but it has to make sense and be reasonable (which your point totally is).
But give it time-- he can change, but not overnight, I imagine.


Posted by SureShotCap
You must use this exploit to bring forth the truth in the matter in a non subtile way, making it as natural as can be... If you get caught, he will notice and reject the possibilities of second guessing himself.

Posted by lnana04
Maybe just maybe he spends so much time with them because he isnt completely comfortable in the relationshio yet, so he is constantly where his comfort is.
I mean reading, there is a lot of your personal preferences, and how you think things should go, what you think he should do etc...and maybe he is running away from that pressure of your idea of a healthy relationship, running away from that pressure especially if he's not getting something he'd want in return *hint* him saying he doesnt think the relationship can grow. It seems he likes you alot, but maybe doesnt feel the two of you are the perfect fit for eachother. Just my opinion.
Do you have or want kids? Marriage? Are you big on having a family of your own? Good with cooking, cleaning, taking care of things on the home front.
Cap males are also very traditional in that way.


Posted by wildvirgo
I guess I get the impression that for him he considers we don't have enough time together, but he also deems his family is very important, and he seems to consider inviting me to loads of family things as integrating me into his family. It seems to be a 'step forward' for him. He also doesn't seem too concerned about the future of our relationship as he has made his mind up (his words) and is in the process of introducing me to the people in his social and family structure. All of which IS important, but we do need some (more!) time together in order to grow as a couple. Also, it would be nice not just to see him when he is always exhausted and wants to refuge himself at home.

Posted by wildvirgo
Thanks for your response. Can you elaborate on this part a bit please?
What's funny is that at the end of the day he is beginning to push me away and may end up in the same situation as the rest of his family, i.e. single. I don't feel appreciated when he pouts because I'm not free when, after days of literally not seeing him or only dealing with him in a mood because he's tired and worn out, suddenly he wants all my time and affection.
There's just no sense of order. I suggested thinking about time in a different way and thinking what the basics are he needs for himself (i.e. sleep, gym, see friends, relax) and then pencil in some time for family now and then. He didn't seem to get my way of doing it though.
Posted by champranger
You had me up to the end of the second paragraph lol. I get that he continues to try to please the people he love because he wants appreciation and recognition for his efforts, yes?
Correct. But being loyal and being a sucker are two different things
So he will only keep trying to please the people he love, when he feels he is not appreciated enough? If OP does indeed making him feel appreciated (IF lol), how will that help him see that he is spending too much efforts on his family?
Caps would do anything for family. But, his family must all be old or handicapped because instead of helping each other with things, they leave the burden up to him, the responsible guy.
Appreciation isn't just a "Thank you" like the world sees it. It means returning the favor of equal or of more value in ACTION.
Cuz my mind thinks that maybe he will not put in as much effort if he is feels really really appreciated, but I know that is not true. *logic FAIL* lol
Caps only give up when we predict that there is no future in ones efforts...click to expand

Posted by wildvirgo
I'm a Virgo woman in relationship with wonderful Cap man. We live together. He repeatedly complains he doesn't feel we spend enough time together, and I feel he is basically married to his family, which prevents us from doing so. It doesn't help that, despite being lovely people, everyone in his immediate family lives on their own, doesn't have a romantic relationship & is somewhat lonely.
He complains about not having enough time to rest (sleep, work-out, read/ go to the cinema) & see his friends and me, & yet seems to have difficulty saying no to things, in particular his family. I have no issue with him seeing his friends & family, I myself am busy socially, but it seems to be to such an extent that he is exhausted. Taking this week as an example, he saw one family member on Monday which meant he had to work late, helped a friend out on Tuesday which meant he was late for a meal organised with my friends, saw an elderly relativ all of Wednesday afternoon and evening which meant he had to get up super early to get his hours in, will be seeing another relative this evening meaning he'll be home at 11pm, and despite this he expects me to be available when he's available. I should add that the week before we spent a week together 'on holiday', yet even that was constantly interrupted by his family. I feel like he has no sense of boundaries.
I like being at home with him (having sex, taking a bath, reading together or simply doing our own thing but knowing the other is around) but that doesn't mean I don't want to go out. I have told him this. Instead of inviting me on dates, he just invites me to family stuff now (e.g. this weekend - rather than thinking of things we can do together, we have yet more family things planned). He says this reflects how serious he is about me. I will not, however, stay with someone who is this married to his family, it is suffocating.
Other than that, things are fine. We instinctively 'get' each other, are able to laugh & have serious conversations, have similar ideas. It is the family thing in particular which I feel is a big issue. I am not this bound to my family (though I get on very well with all of them, especially close family) and have no intention to ever become so bound to family, his or mine.
We have talked about it but he doesn't seem to change his behaviour. Please help!
Posted by IamawineloverPosted by wildvirgo
I'm a Virgo woman in relationship with wonderful Cap man. We live together. He repeatedly complains he doesn't feel we spend enough time together, and I feel he is basically married to his family, which prevents us from doing so. It doesn't help that, despite being lovely people, everyone in his immediate family lives on their own, doesn't have a romantic relationship & is somewhat lonely.
He complains about not having enough time to rest (sleep, work-out, read/ go to the cinema) & see his friends and me, & yet seems to have difficulty saying no to things, in particular his family. I have no issue with him seeing his friends & family, I myself am busy socially, but it seems to be to such an extent that he is exhausted. Taking this week as an example, he saw one family member on Monday which meant he had to work late, helped a friend out on Tuesday which meant he was late for a meal organised with my friends, saw an elderly relativ all of Wednesday afternoon and evening which meant he had to get up super early to get his hours in, will be seeing another relative this evening meaning he'll be home at 11pm, and despite this he expects me to be available when he's available. I should add that the week before we spent a week together 'on holiday', yet even that was constantly interrupted by his family. I feel like he has no sense of boundaries.
I like being at home with him (having sex, taking a bath, reading together or simply doing our own thing but knowing the other is around) but that doesn't mean I don't want to go out. I have told him this. Instead of inviting me on dates, he just invites me to family stuff now (e.g. this weekend - rather than thinking of things we can do together, we have yet more family things planned). He says this reflects how serious he is about me. I will not, however, stay with someone who is this married to his family, it is suffocating.
Other than that, things are fine. We instinctively 'get' each other, are able to laugh & have serious conversations, have similar ideas. It is the family thing in particular which I feel is a big issue. I am not this bound to my family (though I get on very well with all of them, especially close family) and have no intention to ever become so bound to family, his or mine.
We have talked about it but he doe
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He complains about not having enough time to rest (sleep, work-out, read/ go to the cinema) & see his friends and me, & yet seems to have difficulty saying no to things, in particular his family. I have no issue with him seeing his friends & family, I myself am busy socially, but it seems to be to such an extent that he is exhausted. Taking this week as an example, he saw one family member on Monday which meant he had to work late, helped a friend out on Tuesday which meant he was late for a meal organised with my friends, saw an elderly relativ all of Wednesday afternoon and evening which meant he had to get up super early to get his hours in, will be seeing another relative this evening meaning he'll be home at 11pm, and despite this he expects me to be available when he's available. I should add that the week before we spent a week together 'on holiday', yet even that was constantly interrupted by his family. I feel like he has no sense of boundaries.
I like being at home with him (having sex, taking a bath, reading together or simply doing our own thing but knowing the other is around) but that doesn't mean I don't want to go out. I have told him this. Instead of inviting me on dates, he just invites me to family stuff now (e.g. this weekend - rather than thinking of things we can do together, we have yet more family things planned). He says this reflects how serious he is about me. I will not, however, stay with someone who is this married to his family, it is suffocating.
Other than that, things are fine. We instinctively 'get' each other, are able to laugh & have serious conversations, have similar ideas. It is the family thing in particular which I feel is a big issue. I am not this bound to my family (though I get on very well with all of them, especially close family) and have no intention to ever become so bound to family, his or mine.
We have talked about it but he doesn't seem to change his behaviour. Please help!