
Thank you, that actually helps a lot. I do need to focus on that, you're right. And it is hard for me not to blame myself. But I guess we tried, and it just didn't work out.


Posted by Arielle83Yeah I don't think all geminis are bad. That's just bullshit if you ask me. You cannot sum up a person because of his sign. But anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have come to this conclusion a while back, but kinda kept in on the backburner for selfish reasons. You are right, I am trying to change him. You are right, it isn't fair to him. And maybe that's true, all it is, is that he just doesn't need the communication Like I do. Actually when things were going well recently, IPosted by Charfig5Well you've got a bunch of women saying "yeah that's gem men, blah blah blah".Posted by Arielle83I don't ever try to get him back. Understand, I leave him, because of a lack of communication. Like he would not talk to me ever if I didn't try to talk to him when we are together. So I feel like we are not together and give up. He also blew me off plenty of times. I never said he was a shit gemini. I think he is a good person., Maybe just not for me. He is the one always coming back and I fall for him because he knows how to use his words well...and promises to change
I don't understand how you want to talk to him, but when he doesn't give you the amount of communication you need, you break up with him?
And then he gets distand, but you want to get back together again?
Yet all of this is you think he's a shit Gemini?
Sounds like you break up to make him chase you and when he doesn't do what you expect him to do, you go back to him?
Are you attempting to manipulate by breaking up and pouting or do you actually communicate your needs to him?
Anyways, the way I see rejationshios are different from the way you see this.
"He knows how to use his words well...and promises to change"
This alludes me to think he's telling you what you want to hear, because you've probably made it apparant that he needs to "change". You don't like his behaviour so you leaving, due to lack of communication, is you trying for behaviour modification. You aren't satisfied but you'll go back when he sucks up. So maybe your decision is actually reliant on his course of action.
You can't make anyone change and he can't change himself and he shouldn't have to change who he is for you.
Maybe he doesn't need contact or communication as much as you. That lies the problem. There is a difference in needs.
Anyways, your going to be wasting time thinking he will change or whatever you want.
You can only change yourself. So you've got to ask yourself if you want to continue this pattern for another few years.
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Posted by FyzaGemsHe did tell me one of the things he liked most about me was that I don't change...Posted by GemiGirl78Hmmm...maybe the matured ones will not be like that.Posted by Charfig5Gemini guys are the worst. Awesome friends, but bad partners. They need someone that will call them out on their BS 24/7!!!!! Ever their butter isn't real, it's parkay!!!! Call him OUT!! He will hate the confrontation but it's a step in the right direction. If he can't answer for it, time to go!Posted by MooninLeooAll of them?? Lol don't tell me every single gemini you know is a douche![]()
Yes, they are that bad.
I tried only one time dating a Gem but it's like dating myself and we can clash.
I guess all signs has the matured and the immatured ones. There are good Gem men out there. I am pretty sure about that. I think communication is what Gems is all about. If you're not consistent, they will mirror u.
However, we need space too so yeah it's quite difficult to understand the Gems. -_-click to expand

Posted by SassyKiwiHahaha really?€
I apologize but has anyone ever told you that you look like Felicia Day? She's awesome 😄

Posted by Charfig5How about your fourth house?Posted by MontgomeryHouse XII in cancer. Nothing in there. Lol I'm European. My cheekbones are protruding hahaPosted by Charfig5You have Cancer somewhere in your chart, I bet.Posted by KittenLaRougeCause he doesn't give a shit about what people think?🙂Posted by Charfig5the men are idiots, not the women although i like donald trump for some reason.Posted by MooninLeooAll of them?? Lol don't tell me every single gemini you know is a douche![]()
Yes, they are that bad.
But you LOOK like a Gemini.
Those cheekbones.
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Posted by blackphaseThat's exactly what he was saying. I told him I thought he wasn't being honest with me and just simply wasn't into me. And he laughed and said, "no, I'm trying to protect you here." The thing is, I know what's holding him back. We have talks about that all the time. He is very unhappy because he is currently stuck at home and has no choice. He feels completely trapped at home and feels like a failure as a grown man. Which is understandable. He also has no peace at home like he says.Posted by Charfig5Ahh, I see. I have someone who views them self like this in my life, however they don't admit it quite as easily as this fellow has for you. The fact that he admits that is a positive thing. He could say it for many reasons, he could have had difficulty in the past that he has not forgiven himself for. Guilt, regret, shame, many things can hold a person back, I've seen it happen, however not many of the people that allow themselves to remain trapped in an unworthy state of feeling are even able to keep others at bay like this. He thinks he is doing you a favor keep you at arms length it seems. Maybe once you are able to open up to him, he my be able to talk about what has been holding him back and causing him to feel this way.
This is really good advice and I really appreciate you taking the time to tell me this. I do need to have a serious talk with him, but indeed, it is kinda hard for me to completely open up. But I feel like we had these conversations about how I love him, and I want him to be around, and when we did talk about that, what he said was "you're a good person and I'm not. I have nothing to offer to anyone, and I can't help you in any way. I would just be dragging you down." see he is a helper. He s got a heart of gold and would give his right arm to his neighbor. Maybe he feels like I don't need any help in any way, and that he would be useless to my life?click to expand



Posted by Charfig5
Was forced to live with his parents because he had just won a custody battle with his ex, and needed help to take care of the little one.
He s talked about our future, has said that he wanted to move in together, get married, the whole nine yards.
I told him I wouldn't do any of these things unless I'm sure of his feelings towards me. I told him I wanted something real.

Posted by Charfig5
Was forced to live with his parents

Posted by muffle_kerfuffleThank you for your advice.
Pro tip: With Geminis, it's "deeds; not words".
The fact that he keeps running back to you shows you have worth to him. Don't misunderstand that with "using". We appreciate people that are useful and resourceful and is one trait we tend to look for in mates. This can be interpreted as mental stimulation (and not in the sense of "child support"). We aren't going to be bothered with someone that is boring, or dull. So, I think he is definitely intrigued by you.
It's obvious you have feelings for him. Stop breaking things off. Appreciate the days when he gives you his full attention and allow him to recharge his batteries. If we are constantly under pressure to interact, we'll explode. If we feel emotionally trapped, and not allowed to freely come and go, we'll start to project our anger. We need freedom, but we also want to be grounded. So, just because he leaves for a couple days and then jumps back into your life is just our nature. And the fact he keeps coming back, yeah, he has interest in you in one form or another.
I'm pretty confused about him too, though. Some things make his feeling legit, but given the odds, I don't really know now. You're an anchor to his problems with his ex and he is struggling, emotionally. Is he using you or not? I'm not entirely sure. Is there things going on behind you back during these days off? Then you also keep breaking things off with him. He talks of the future but it doesn't sound like anything has been grounded? Why haven't you guys moved in together yet?
Though, a Gem needs to learn how to appreciate you and it doesn't sound like he is as mature as a Gem should be. But I don't know the complete history between you too. You like him, obviously, and he finds use of you or is interested. He plays on the future love-talk stuff, but I don't see him taking any action towards it.
You should probably start showing some tough love. Don't break things off with him but set yourself some goals that progress towards a future together. If he doesn't work towards the same goals together, then I guess it is time to move on. Smack him in the back of the head.

Posted by muffle_kerfuffleWhat exactly makes you think that? I'm pretty sure I agree..
You're not making the wrong decision. Keep yourself protected. The more I think about it the more it sounds like he is taking advantage of you.
Eh 😢
Take a break and give him incentive to grow up if he actually wants to be with you.

Posted by muffle_kerfuffleSee how I feel?? LolPosted by Charfig5Now I'm confusing myself. Sorry.Posted by muffle_kerfuffleWhat exactly makes you think that? I'm pretty sure I agree..
You're not making the wrong decision. Keep yourself protected. The more I think about it the more it sounds like he is taking advantage of you.
Eh 😢
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Posted by nevesI have. He knows. And I know. It is a ridiculous amount of time. But I'm loyal to a fault. And when I love, I just can't stop. No matter how badly I'm treated I guess. (to an extent.) I keep on hoping and I feel like an idiot. And p Angel is probably right in everything she said.
3 years is long time - to be waiting for someone that didn't even confirmed that - he loves you. Gemini of all people - are usually among those who confirm their love - by actually saying the words. Did you say the words? Did you told him that - you love him?


Posted by P-AngelI can always count on you to receive a good slap in the face. Lol understand this, there is more to the story. I don't want to put his entire life story on there lol but know this. He doesn't need his parents. It s the other way around. His parents do not support him financially. And of course I have worries about values and responsibility, otherwise I would move in with him when he asked me.Posted by Charfig5
Was forced to live with his parents because he had just won a custody battle with his ex, and needed help to take care of the little one.
He s talked about our future, has said that he wanted to move in together, get married, the whole nine yards.
I told him I wouldn't do any of these things unless I'm sure of his feelings towards me. I told him I wanted something real.
lol .. how funny.
So, let me get this straight ..... he's not secure financially, and so has to move in with parents to support him and his child ....
... meanwhile ..... you googly eyed and your panties get wet when he talks of marriage, as if he has presented himself as having the ability to give you the whole nine ...
.... and your response to him doesn't contain concerns of real life values and responsibilities - ONLY assuring you that he feels you
And you're 31 years old ..... and you are so gullible and naïve that you actually believe he's your Knight in Shining armour who's going to give you the whole nine yards of your desires and wants and needs ... and then he has to go home to mommy and daddy's house.
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Posted by nevesMaybe I just made him sound irresponsible... He isn't. He stays to help them. He got in business with his dad which was a bad idea. And now he feels like if he leaves the business will tank and he s worried for his mom, cause she doesn't work.
One thing is for sure - this has little do with him being a Gemini (it's not typical Gemini behavior - to say the least) - and more to do with immaturity. He sounds really irresponsible (he doesn't seem to take responsibility for his actions and the way they affect others). Though... your placements (all that Virgo energy) - remember me of a Virgo male, who like you... he was relationship with some broken people... and yet he stuck around - hoping for them to get fixed or... to fix them. He obviously liked them - for some reason... but he was also drawn to their broken nature - if that makes any sense.
Maybe i'm not the best example for a Gemini - but in my case, if i would love someone - and she would prove her love to me like you have (which makes it mutual) - cause of my Aries Moon - i think i'd explode if i don't say anything... ^^

Posted by muffle_kerfuffleHis Venus is in cancer, whatever that means lolPosted by Charfig5Tarsus Venus here; can relate. Venus in the earth signs tends to love hard and strong.Posted by nevesI have. He knows. And I know. It is a ridiculous amount of time. But I'm loyal to a fault. And when I love, I just can't stop. No matter how badly I'm treated I guess. (to an extent.) I keep on hoping and I feel like an idiot. And p Angel is probably right in everything she said.
3 years is long time - to be waiting for someone that didn't even confirmed that - he loves you. Gemini of all people - are usually among those who confirm their love - by actually saying the words. Did you say the words? Did you told him that - you love him?click to expand



Posted by heraI haven't left in over a year now. I know it is stupid. I guess by leaving him I was hoping to get a reaction from him, for him to proved he cared, which is idiotic, I know. But it did work as he always came back. The few times I left were because I was tired of repeating myself over and over again, nothing would get fixed. And I just thought, ok he really doesn't give a shit. And I left.
@ OP
i dont understand you...you keep leaving him, than going back to him, than leaving him again...and it goes on and on and on.... what do you expect will happen? dont you see what you are doing? are you happy whit this relationship? is he?

Posted by nevesNeves, what happened to your friend? I have been in several relationships where I tried to fix people. Which is pointless, I know.
One thing is for sure - this has little do with him being a Gemini (it's not typical Gemini behavior - to say the least) - and more to do with immaturity. He sounds really irresponsible (he doesn't seem to take responsibility for his actions and the way they affect others). Though... your placements (all that Virgo energy) - remember me of a Virgo male, who like you... he was relationship with some broken people... and yet he stuck around - hoping for them to get fixed or... to fix them. He obviously liked them - for some reason... but he was also drawn to their broken nature - if that makes any sense.
Maybe i'm not the best example for a Gemini - but in my case, if i would love someone - and she would prove her love to me like you have (which makes it mutual) - cause of my Aries Moon - i think i'd explode if i don't say anything... ^^

Posted by Charfig5Coincidentally, he bumped into one of his exes (they broke the relationship around 8 years ago) - who happens to be single now - and they're giving it another try. She's a Gemini too. ^^ Though, they really loved each-other and she did told him that - back when they were together... it's just that both of them - were more immature at that time. Hard to say - how this will go... They're both around your age. 🙂Posted by nevesNeves, what happened to your friend? I have been in several relationships where I tried to fix people. Which is pointless, I know.
One thing is for sure - this has little do with him being a Gemini (it's not typical Gemini behavior - to say the least) - and more to do with immaturity. He sounds really irresponsible (he doesn't seem to take responsibility for his actions and the way they affect others). Though... your placements (all that Virgo energy) - remember me of a Virgo male, who like you... he was relationship with some broken people... and yet he stuck around - hoping for them to get fixed or... to fix them. He obviously liked them - for some reason... but he was also drawn to their broken nature - if that makes any sense.
Maybe i'm not the best example for a Gemini - but in my case, if i would love someone - and she would prove her love to me like you have (which makes it mutual) - cause of my Aries Moon - i think i'd explode if i don't say anything... ^^click to expand



Posted by muffle_kerfuffleApparently love really is blind.Posted by heraShe is obviously reflecting the environment she is in. Not the best way to deal with her emotions, but given the circumstances, it's perfectly understandable. You would probably do the same if you loved someone as much as she did (does).
@ OP
i dont understand you...you keep leaving him, than going back to him, than leaving him again...and it goes on and on and on.... what do you expect will happen? dont you see what you are doing? are you happy whit this relationship? is he?click to expand

Posted by nevesI hope that works out for them!🙂Posted by Charfig5Coincidentally, he bumped into one of his exes (they broke the relationship around 8 years ago) - who happens to be single now - and they're giving it another try. She's a Gemini too. ^^ Though, they really loved each-other and she did told him that - back when they were together... it's just that both of them - were more immature at that time. Hard to say - how this will go... They're both around your age. 🙂Posted by nevesNeves, what happened to your friend? I have been in several relationships where I tried to fix people. Which is pointless, I know.
One thing is for sure - this has little do with him being a Gemini (it's not typical Gemini behavior - to say the least) - and more to do with immaturity. He sounds really irresponsible (he doesn't seem to take responsibility for his actions and the way they affect others). Though... your placements (all that Virgo energy) - remember me of a Virgo male, who like you... he was relationship with some broken people... and yet he stuck around - hoping for them to get fixed or... to fix them. He obviously liked them - for some reason... but he was also drawn to their broken nature - if that makes any sense.
Maybe i'm not the best example for a Gemini - but in my case, if i would love someone - and she would prove her love to me like you have (which makes it mutual) - cause of my Aries Moon - i think i'd explode if i don't say anything... ^^click to expand

Posted by sweetmaree88Yeah his upbringing wasn't the best to say the least...
About a month ago I ended a 3 month relationship with a Gemini/Gem Asc (Scorp moon). I'm 28 and he's 40...
I think for some signs their upbringing is more crucial than for other signs (in addition to their other placements)...
And his lack of upbringing was really reflected in his lack of maturity and selfishness lol. He was always very nice to me - our split was dramatic (his end at least) but he still never said anything mean to me, ever.
I briefly dated another Gemini who was 38 a while ago. Never married, no kids - and he was a nice guy but thought he was far more clever than he was... He once text me a text that was meant for another woman (it was obvs) and I called him out (I wasn't mad - we had just met) but then he lied to me - and never would admit to it (which pissed me off - I hate liars). He tried to turn the thing onto me and what I want - He was also very selfish too.
Both these Geminis were very 'giving' - as long as they directly benefited from their "generosity". I'm a Pisces, I am all about self-sacrifice and genuine acts of generosity. These men thought that they could make up for their lack of consideration by throwing money at me. I hate people who think money makes everything better.
Lesson learned - if a men isn't married by late 30s - There is a very good reason lol.
If I were you I would drop that Gem forever and move on to greener pastures... He's never going to change. People just don't change - it takes years and it's never going to be because a relationship is hanging over their head. Sounds like you can do better anyway.

Posted by Charfig5Naaah... that's romance. ^^
I'm usually a very rational and logical person. But when it comes to him, I turn into a complete dumbass it seems. I always had a good feeling about us. I couldn't tell you why, but I had the strong intuition that we were meant to be together, I even had full on visions of us being old together. That never happened to me before, with anyone, and I don't see things, ok? Lol I know how that seems nuts


Posted by Charfig5aww...i know how that feels, i have been there, felt that way...but, sweety...you are not happy, and you deserve to be happy
I'm usually a very rational and logical person. But when it comes to him, I turn into a complete dumbass it seems. I always had a good feeling about us. I couldn't tell you why, but I had the strong intuition that we were meant to be together, I even had full on visions of us being old together. That never happened to me before, with anyone, and I don't see things, ok? Lol I know how that seems nuts

Posted by nevesPosted by Charfig5Naaah... that's romance. ^^
I'm usually a very rational and logical person. But when it comes to him, I turn into a complete dumbass it seems. I always had a good feeling about us. I couldn't tell you why, but I had the strong intuition that we were meant to be together, I even had full on visions of us being old together. That never happened to me before, with anyone, and I don't see things, ok? Lol I know how that seems nuts
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Posted by Charfig5I was like that with a Cancer for 5 long long years - very different situation, but at the end of the day we were just a bad match... Even though I was miserable I couldn't move on. We are still friends actually (now), but we will never ever get back together (he hasn't moved on). I want to find love with a new person and it was tough be open to such a drastic change as finding a new love and becoming apart of a new life and family. Took 2 years and him ditching me and sleeping with another chick for my to be pushed out of my emotional slump.
I'm usually a very rational and logical person. But when it comes to him, I turn into a complete dumbass it seems. I always had a good feeling about us. I couldn't tell you why, but I had the strong intuition that we were meant to be together, I even had full on visions of us being old together. That never happened to me before, with anyone, and I don't see things, ok? Lol I know how that seems nuts

Posted by heraThank you... That's why I have been trying to reach out and ask other people s opinion, (which I never do) because I have been trying to figure it out for soooo long. And I can't seem to snap out of it, if snapping out is needed. I just don't know what to do, considering lately things have been a lot better between us.Posted by Charfig5aww...i know how that feels, i have been there, felt that way...but, sweety...you are not happy, and you deserve to be happy
I'm usually a very rational and logical person. But when it comes to him, I turn into a complete dumbass it seems. I always had a good feeling about us. I couldn't tell you why, but I had the strong intuition that we were meant to be together, I even had full on visions of us being old together. That never happened to me before, with anyone, and I don't see things, ok? Lol I know how that seems nuts
you need to figure this out by yourself...nothing that we say will help you...you need to decide is this worth fighting for, and will it bring you happiness...
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Posted by sweetmaree88I don't know, really? He really isn't immature though, I think what muffle said was more accurate, he is in survivor mode lol. If anything, I think he feels he has to carry the weight of the world, take care of business and his parents, his daughter obviously, I think he might just be so overwhelmed with life that there is no room for anything concrete with me.Posted by Charfig5I was like that with a Cancer for 5 long long years - very different situation, but at the end of the day we were just a bad match... Even though I was miserable I couldn't move on. We are still friends actually (now), but we will never ever get back together (he hasn't moved on). I want to find love with a new person and it was tough be open to such a drastic change as finding a new love and becoming apart of a new life and family. Took 2 years and him ditching me and sleeping with another chick for my to be pushed out of my emotional slump.
I'm usually a very rational and logical person. But when it comes to him, I turn into a complete dumbass it seems. I always had a good feeling about us. I couldn't tell you why, but I had the strong intuition that we were meant to be together, I even had full on visions of us being old together. That never happened to me before, with anyone, and I don't see things, ok? Lol I know how that seems nuts
I may be making this up, but aren't Gemini naturally a bit more emotionally immature than the rest?? If a Gemini had a poor upbringing there is no hope. It's like men with mother issues... No hope. Unless they've spent YEARS in therapy.
The Gemini I dated for a mere 3 months lost his shit (when we split) tried to pick it up, lost it again... tried to pick it up - My Virgo moon couldn't even believe the nonsense haha. He's a 12 year old boy trapped in a skinny, middle aged body. Lol.click to expand

Posted by Charfig5
He doesn't need his parents. It s the other way around.
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And of course I have worries about values and responsibility, otherwise I would move in with him when he asked me.
Posted by Charfig5
Was forced to live with his parents because he had just won a custody battle with his ex, and needed help to take care of the little one.
Posted by Charfig5
has said that he wanted to move in together, get married, the whole nine yards. I told him I wouldn't do any of these things unless I'm sure of his feelings towards me.
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Posted by P-AngelHe didn't need help financially, back then, the kid was practically a newborn, he didn't know what to do.Posted by Charfig5
He doesn't need his parents. It s the other way around.
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And of course I have worries about values and responsibility, otherwise I would move in with him when he asked me.
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Was forced to live with his parents because he had just won a custody battle with his ex, and needed help to take care of the little one.
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has said that he wanted to move in together, get married, the whole nine yards. I told him I wouldn't do any of these things unless I'm sure of his feelings towards me.
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Posted by muffle_kerfuffleI found out he was on a dating website... And he denied it.
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Posted by Charfig5What an asshole !! So did you break up with him ?Posted by muffle_kerfuffleI found out he was on a dating website... And he denied it.
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Posted by muffle_kerfuffleNo lol I didn't, what for? I had that weird feeling he might be screwing around and talking to other girls for some reason, so I went online (where we originally met, a dating site) just to check if he had a profile going on there.... And guess what, he did have a new profile. Lol I texted him about it and blew up his phone, and he first denied it, saying what the fuck are you talking about, and then he was like oh I never went on dates with other womenPosted by Charfig5You send him a request? oh god!Posted by muffle_kerfuffleI found out he was on a dating website... And he denied it.
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Posted by happyface1Since I blew up his phone going crazy, he just shut down so I didn't even get to do thatPosted by Charfig5What an asshole !! So did you break up with him ?Posted by muffle_kerfuffleI found out he was on a dating website... And he denied it.
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Posted by muffle_kerfuffleHahaha well the thing is, I know he was active cause of that little green dot next to his name.... That means he was online. He said he deleted it forever ago... I was like hmmm yeah you're online. And he said "I was sleeping!" he told me I'm going crazy and the only person he sees is me. I don't believe he s met anyone from there, but you know. I told him " if I was to check your texts on your phone, how many girls messages would I find?" he said "you're welcome to dig in there anytime you want"Posted by Charfig5omg! Dude, you send him messages on the dating website!!!!Posted by muffle_kerfuffleNo lol I didn't, what for? I had that weird feeling he might be screwing around and talking to other girls for some reason, so I went online (where we originally met, a dating site) just to check if he had a profile going on there.... And guess what, he did have a new profile. Lol I texted him about it and blew up his phone, and he first denied it, saying what the fuck are you talking about, and then he was like oh I never went on dates with other womenPosted by Charfig5You send him a request? oh god!Posted by muffle_kerfuffleI found out he was on a dating website... And he denied it.
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DETAILS GURL! SPREAD THE BEANS!
Come on, get down to the brass tax here. You could find out if this is active or not.
The fact he denied it and let it slide... fuuuck, dude. Come on!!!!
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Posted by happyface1I do care, still. That's sick. A fucking disease is what I have.
I'm sorry. You seem to care for him a lot.
You're faithful to him after all this time. It's time to cut the cord sweetie.
You deserve better for yourself.
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