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Posted by hydorah
A great way to lose weight easily is go to sleep early, go to sleep before 9PM. It's necessary to balance your metabolism.
If you want, do the medieval night (sleep 8PM-1am, wake up and write or do some light activity 1am-3am (don't eat). sleep 3am-6am)
Oh.. do you write a book or dream journal during the midieval while? Oh! Btw, have you had any successful lucid dreaming.. oh sorry for the off topic topic.. do you think that the power of our actions during the day can allow us to be able to lucid dream?
I had a great advice to sleep at 8pm - 3am then do prayers.. read.. pray again before walking/running and finish off that morning ritual at sharp 6.15am before doing work. Problem is.. exactly when I would do that?
Posted by hydorah
I agree with the OP and although I need to lose some fat wouldn't take it for several reasons:
-it's cheating (dishonorable)
-you're not doing any efforts on yourself, which means you'll go back to gain weight as soon as you stop
-it's a mindset of mediocrity
-It might have side effects
-it throws your natural balance off
I know losing weight is very difficult, but it's mostly because we don't really put our energy into it, the only way to lose weight seriously is to completely change your view of your future and your fate. Last time I shed a huge amount of fat was during cohen-19. Yes it took a whole civilization-altering scamdemic to make me have a new outlook on my future.
When you are in the correct mindset, weight loss is very fast, like you should get into a good shape in less than a week. If not that means you should really examine your life style again.
That being said I understand why in some cases some people might need to take it, for example people who are morbidly obese and have life threatening condition and need to lose weight fast, or people who have actual diabetes becasue I don't really know what it does for them.
But 80% of poeple don't really need it, they just need a shake up
In the beginning you sound so great. In the end though.. hmm.. what do you mean by that? I feel challenged.
Posted by WhiskItPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Muscles turn to be fat if not exercised, right? That's why some men grow unwanted tidoodledoos after leaving their muscle training for a long time.click to expand
No, muscles don't turn into fat.
Man titties are due to steroid use and/or hormonal imbalances.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to today
Posted by WhiskItPosted by hydorah
A great way to lose weight easily is go to sleep early, go to sleep before 9PM. It's necessary to balance your metabolism.
If you want, do the medieval night (sleep 8PM-1am, wake up and write or do some light activity 1am-3am (don't eat). sleep 3am-6am)
Oh.. do you write a book or dream journal during the midieval while? Oh! Btw, have you had any successful lucid dreaming.. oh sorry for the off topic topic.. do you think that the power of our actions during the day can allow us to be able to lucid dream?
I had a great advice to sleep at 8pm - 3am then do prayers.. read.. pray again before walking/running and finish off that morning ritual at sharp 6.15am before doing work. Problem is.. exactly when I would do that?click to expand
Despite my good track record with supernatural activities, I never managed to do lucid dreaming or astral voyage or anything else during sleep (except premonitory dreams but they don't interfer with sleep). Which is probably for the better.
I read about medieval customs in a book.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.
Posted by hydorahPosted by WhiskItPosted by hydorah
A great way to lose weight easily is go to sleep early, go to sleep before 9PM. It's necessary to balance your metabolism.
If you want, do the medieval night (sleep 8PM-1am, wake up and write or do some light activity 1am-3am (don't eat). sleep 3am-6am)
Oh.. do you write a book or dream journal during the midieval while? Oh! Btw, have you had any successful lucid dreaming.. oh sorry for the off topic topic.. do you think that the power of our actions during the day can allow us to be able to lucid dream?
I had a great advice to sleep at 8pm - 3am then do prayers.. read.. pray again before walking/running and finish off that morning ritual at sharp 6.15am before doing work. Problem is.. exactly when I would do that?click to expand
Despite my good track record with supernatural activities, I never managed to do lucid dreaming or astral voyage or anything else during sleep (except premonitory dreams but they don't interfer with sleep). Which is probably for the better.
I read about medieval customs in a book.click to expand
I see .. because I learnt about lucid dreaming from a cancer dude way back and his desire of lucid dreaming can be manifested from his desire to control his own emotions and life circumstances.
Whereas astral projections may be stemmed from one's desire of being transported into another human being.. but that's just my perspective of it, the underlying causes. How he talked about systematic anarchy might have also been about his desire to get out of life's matrix but i can't really confirm that since our intimate friendship was done briefly and online anyway. He is basically my main character for my Hypnogogia never-will-be finished novel.
Btw, I think your inclination toward reading into midieval customs may be because how you want to reconnect to your past self.. Idk much about it other than my love for Xena and I never really liked Hercules.. but I agree that ancient Greek civilization is fascinating because of the dynamism. It sparks dynamic life at that time.. whereas compared to now where I sense matrix system, where we are all interchangeable to one sole purpose. How do you see it?
I think that’s a fair opinion to have
I gave them a go earlier this year for the weight loss + blood sugar regulation. Never had blood sugar issues and then suddenly on routine blood work, it had just insanely spiked from the last test 6 months prior - even measuring high on A1C with diet, consistent exercise, etc. Doctor said sometimes this just happens to people and encouraged giving them a try. I don’t have a formal diagnosis for diabetes yet because of the GLP-1 to be honest
Anyway, physically it feels good to be on the GLP-1. I did have hair loss which was the worst side effect (could be genetic too idk). Constipation was pretty bad too, but I eat high fiber to help with that.
I had 2 surgeries since September which had me down for quite a while, and gained back a little weight from being bed ridden and the recovery. Not entirely my fault given the circumstances but angry at myself, I’ve been pushing myself in the gym even though I’m not supposed to do weights for 6 months.
I’m going back on GLP-1 as a “kick start” because I want to be where I was pre surgery, and I’m just upset I’m not, even though I know you can’t really rush these things. I’m impatient. I don’t consider myself needing them to lose or maintain my weight as I was doing that just fine before my surgeries
I gave them a go earlier this year for the weight loss + blood sugar regulation. Never had blood sugar issues and then suddenly on routine blood work, it had just insanely spiked from the last test 6 months prior - even measuring high on A1C with diet, consistent exercise, etc. Doctor said sometimes this just happens to people and encouraged giving them a try. I don’t have a formal diagnosis for diabetes yet because of the GLP-1 to be honest
Anyway, physically it feels good to be on the GLP-1. I did have hair loss which was the worst side effect (could be genetic too idk). Constipation was pretty bad too, but I eat high fiber to help with that.
I had 2 surgeries since September which had me down for quite a while, and gained back a little weight from being bed ridden and the recovery. Not entirely my fault given the circumstances but angry at myself, I’ve been pushing myself in the gym even though I’m not supposed to do weights for 6 months.
I’m going back on GLP-1 as a “kick start” because I want to be where I was pre surgery, and I’m just upset I’m not, even though I know you can’t really rush these things. I’m impatient. I don’t consider myself needing them to lose or maintain my weight as I was doing that just fine before my surgeries
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..
Posted by PilatesBod
I took a glp1 because I have a bunch of nurse friends, one owns a medspa and they were taking it to lose 10-15 vanity pounds for a wedding and I thought why not.
It made me feel sick af so I wouldn’t and couldn’t take it longterm. But I learned something about myself…I have a lot of what’s called “food noise”. My brain definitely feels rewarded by food and looks forward to it. When I was on the glp1 I did not get that hit of dopamine from eating something yummy. Everyone’s volume knob on the dopamine from food is different. It’s not discipline or willpower.
I know I was not always like this because I used to hate eating and was teetering on underweight most of my life. In college I would wear 2 pair of pants to make my legs look bigger. One time I didn’t and the professor who was also a nurse stopped me as I was walking in and said “you’re…really skinny”. Everyone assumed I had an eating disorder but I really just wasn’t hungry and never experienced hunger and food did nothing for me. It felt like a chore to even chew.
Anyway it went on like that until my mid 30s when I experienced a major traumatic event and my whole mind and body shut down and went into survival mode and that’s when I started eating for comfort.
The GLP1 flattens the dopamine spike in your brain. For better or worse.
All I’m saying is, the tables can always turn. One day you’re the girl layering pants to look bigger and the next you’re shoveling peanut butter m&ms because your nervous system is holding on by its fingertips.
Which dose did you take when it made you ill? I am very resistant to this drug!
I didn’t feel anything until the dose was titrated to 10mg, so like 3 months in of nothing and I only ever got to 12mg. I never had the nausea and illnesses associated with it, but I heard it comes with a vengeance if you eat bad/specifically greasy foods day of or up to 1-2 days after injection. So you definitely have to eat clean those first few days
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Borh fat and muscles make up mass of body. Also the level of density of your bones add it too.
So for example, one people eat a lot (without body workouts) and another one eat fairly (with body workouts) that means that one stores fat and another one stores muscles and both can weigh exactly the same. That is what they explain to me a while ago.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expandclick to expand
Are you a doctor too?
Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,
@nanochip
I react strongly to all drugs unfortunately. Dental anesthesia is a 20 minute process and it can’t have epinephrine in it. My nervous system has a hairpin trigger. It’s embarrassing and dramatic af. I never took more than .5mg and I lost 15lbs in 4-6 weeks. I can’t fathom 10 or 12 mg.
There are a bunch of grey market options now. I just helped my 2nd mom order some and she’s lost 20lbs in 4 months. She’s 69 and she qualifies for a lung transplant due to lifelong asthma damage so it’s not like she can go for a run. I don’t notice any hair loss with her either, but she never titrated up. She’s stayed at a low dose.
I react strongly to all drugs unfortunately. Dental anesthesia is a 20 minute process and it can’t have epinephrine in it. My nervous system has a hairpin trigger. It’s embarrassing and dramatic af. I never took more than .5mg and I lost 15lbs in 4-6 weeks. I can’t fathom 10 or 12 mg.
There are a bunch of grey market options now. I just helped my 2nd mom order some and she’s lost 20lbs in 4 months. She’s 69 and she qualifies for a lung transplant due to lifelong asthma damage so it’s not like she can go for a run. I don’t notice any hair loss with her either, but she never titrated up. She’s stayed at a low dose.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Yes, in many parts of the world, most are attracted to good looks especially slim lean body for women and muscular toned body for men. But in Africa none of it applies. They like fat women, idk why but they do. I don't really feel as much pressure when it comes to looks other standard well taken care of looks, sanitary, decency in looks (hair, skin, body) business wise, this culture makes fortune out of people's attraction to beauty but I defy it because I don't give much attention to how someone looks as long as they don't smell, clean, and neat.
However, apart from beauty/appearance, health is another matter that should be paid close attention to as it speaks about our life quality in general.
So I defy people who go to gym so that they look attractive but I don't for people who genuinely care about their health.
What about you?
Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Yes, in many parts of the world, most are attracted to good looks especially slim lean body for women and muscular toned body for men. But in Africa none of it applies. They like fat women, idk why but they do. I don't really feel as much pressure when it comes to looks other standard well taken care of looks, sanitary, decency in looks (hair, skin, body) business wise, this culture makes fortune out of people's attraction to beauty but I defy it because I don't give much attention to how someone looks as long as they don't smell, clean, and neat.
However, apart from beauty/appearance, health is another matter that should be paid close attention to as it speaks about our life quality in general.
So I defy people who go to gym so that they look attractive but I don't for people who genuinely care about their health.
What about you?click to expand
I am from Africa and yes people here like rounder women, growing up it was a lot of pressure to gain weight since I was super skinny, now as an adult, I care a little less about being curvy and more about being healthy,
Still not the healthiest person but I do my best to look good naked
I agree in principle. What i hate more is the lack of education on how the whole system works. Most people cant describe what the metabolic system is made up of and how it works. What ATP is, what NAD is, what the liver does, what your pancrease does, let alone how they all function together. This is information that should be taught in schools, not gender studies. If SRIs and depression medications weren't so lucrative, they probably would. Pays more to keep people fat and confused, than fit and clear.
If it gets someone the motivation to get started, im for it.
Ive had to cut walls out of homes to remove bodies of people so obese they couldn't exercise if they wanted to. Too far gone. Stab those people with all the ozempic.
I mean philosophically, isnt it just like Narcan? If you cut through all the bullshit, its just like Narcan.
If it gets someone the motivation to get started, im for it.
Ive had to cut walls out of homes to remove bodies of people so obese they couldn't exercise if they wanted to. Too far gone. Stab those people with all the ozempic.
I mean philosophically, isnt it just like Narcan? If you cut through all the bullshit, its just like Narcan.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expand
Are you a doctor too?click to expand
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expandPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Are you a doctor too?
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.click to expand
Pardon my ignorance but what doctor would tell a non diabetic to inject themselves? That doctor need his or her doctor's license revoke. if you got diabetes run in the family your chances of having it is extremely slim. It's like what the op said in the very beginning of this thread. If you on ozempic you lazy it's just that goddamn simple as that. Why yall can't see that? If you are overweight with a family history of it the solution is simple, get yo fat ass out there and exercise and go on a low calorie diet.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expandPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Are you a doctor too?click to expand
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.click to expand
Well I'm sorry about your cousin but I wouldn't put much trust in today's doctors as they're all puppets working for big pharma,
I'm not saying being obese can't be genetics, what I'm trying to say is a very small portion of the population has that, and not actually what the experts are saying,
You should watch Food Inc documentary, if you want to be enlightened
it’s glorified as this miracle weight loss drug that Hollywood stars use but the side effects are awful and doesn’t seem healthy overall
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expand
Are you a doctor too?click to expand
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.click to expand
Well I'm sorry about your cousin but I wouldn't put much trust in today's doctors as they're all puppets working for big pharma,
I'm not saying being obese can't be genetics, what I'm trying to say is a very small portion of the population has that, and not actually what the experts are saying,
You should watch Food Inc documentary, if you want to be enlightenedclick to expand
With all due respect, doctors spend their whole lives researching (not Google) and being educated to keep their license. They also go to school for an extended amount of time… I certainly would not want to be one because it’s too much information that need to remember, learn, and keep up on.
On that note, there is an acknowledgment that the foods in America are not the best. There’s a lot of processed foods and foods that have dyes. RFK Jr is actively changing that. Also, I think some people lead sedentary life style s that can contribute to it, but this is not all inclusive. The OP is rather judgmental and putting all people on the shots under one umbrella.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.
Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
LOL…. 😆 Okay 👌
Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
I love how people spout or spew some contradictory information but do not elaborate. That’s why I am laughing at you. Lmfao!! 😂
Not to mention, my relative went from 240 lbs to 165 lbs. Wonder how jealous and envious you, the OP, and some others may be of that.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Yes, in many parts of the world, most are attracted to good looks especially slim lean body for women and muscular toned body for men. But in Africa none of it applies. They like fat women, idk why but they do. I don't really feel as much pressure when it comes to looks other standard well taken care of looks, sanitary, decency in looks (hair, skin, body) business wise, this culture makes fortune out of people's attraction to beauty but I defy it because I don't give much attention to how someone looks as long as they don't smell, clean, and neat.
However, apart from beauty/appearance, health is another matter that should be paid close attention to as it speaks about our life quality in general.
So I defy people who go to gym so that they look attractive but I don't for people who genuinely care about their health.
What about you?click to expand
I am from Africa and yes people here like rounder women, growing up it was a lot of pressure to gain weight since I was super skinny, now as an adult, I care a little less about being curvy and more about being healthy,
Still not the healthiest person but I do my best to look good nakedclick to expand
Apparently that speaks about how Africans don't like to work on their bodies.. however funny they are obsessed with bass (big ass) and I think the reason is because they don't like women who has power.
Yeah me too, I totally understand about how it makes us feel better understanding our body makes us feel attractive (to ourselves, mostly, increased self-esteem) but yes the supposedly main purpose is to be healthy. I am right now feel lazy because life threw lemons consequently and I should make a lemonade very soon. It starts with body. Men sana er corpore sano.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Depends on what's in the food. Usa has lots of preservatives and enriched versions of normal foods. Like corn syrup, sucralose, aspartame, datem, BHT, sunflower oil, msg etc. Avoid these ingredients as much as possible and you can still eat well and have less side effects.
Stress. Also life in American cities are sometimes akin to war zone vibes, raising cortisol and creating a craving for high fat, sugar, salt foods for comfort.
How many times have we seen or eaten fast food or donuts ina hurry cause we have no time.
I swear - Some people are slower than molasses.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
click to expand
Hmm. Okay. Thank you for being humble and honest, I truly appreciate it ! 😁
The point I’m trying to make is there are obese athletes. The NFL is a perfect example of where some of these obese athletes are in sports. 🏈 Do you really think they do not work out? That they do not exercise and are “lazy”? It’s a common misconception about overweight and obese people. And that they do not eat right? Or eat healthy foods?
They may be healthy, but their BMI is still over 30.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
I love how people spout or spew some contradictory information but do not elaborate. That’s why I am laughing at you. Lmfao!! 😂
Not to mention, my relative went from 240 lbs to 165 lbs. Wonder how jealous and envious you, the OP, and some others may be of that.click to expand
I promise you that nobody would be jealous of anyone for using a cheat code to lose weight. Lol. You're slow.
Posted by goddessofthesunPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
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Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
I love how people spout or spew some contradictory information but do not elaborate. That’s why I am laughing at you. Lmfao!! 😂
Not to mention, my relative went from 240 lbs to 165 lbs. Wonder how jealous and envious you, the OP, and some others may be of that.click to expand
I promise you that nobody would be jealous of anyone for using a cheat code to lose weight. Lol. You're slow.click to expand
Honestly, I have Diabetes type 2 that is very controlled and take Ozempic and Metformin for it. I have lost 100 lbs. I live in your judgmental head and you had to come make a topic about it judging obese and overweight people who use Ozempic and other shots to lose weight. Just admit it, you’re an unhappy person who wants to make other people feel like shit. Well, it’s not working and I will show your ass as it is to others. 😁
Posted by goddessofthesunPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
They clearly don't keep up with the diet and exercise required to be able to lose weight. You're basically hurt that I'm not enabling complacency when it comes to health.click to expand
What about the obese and overweight NFL sports players?? They don’t keep up with a diet and exercise regularly?? You’re full of shit and are living in a glass house. You want to feel better than others because you work out and eat right believing that others don’t.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
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Hmm. Okay. Thank you for being humble and honest, I truly appreciate it ! 😁
The point I’m trying to make is there are obese athletes. The NFL is a perfect example of where some of these obese athletes are in sports. 🏈 Do you really think they do not work out? That they do not exercise and are “lazy”? It’s a common misconception about overweight and obese people. And that they do not eat right? Or eat healthy foods?
They may be healthy, but their BMI is still over 30.click to expand
Sorry but no, they are not healthy. What makes them healthy? Are you seriousely trying to tell me it's their metabolism that's broken, not the amount of food they shovel into themselves?
@Bluemoon86
https://coldpizzadotme.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/nfl-players-under-pressure-2/
It is not a healthy life style . Sign of the times. It's the same shit that's been dominating bodybuilding since the 80's and 90's.
So when you say "athletes are obese too" it's not really saying much about their health and athleticism as much as the obesity epidemic we got going.
https://coldpizzadotme.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/nfl-players-under-pressure-2/
It is not a healthy life style . Sign of the times. It's the same shit that's been dominating bodybuilding since the 80's and 90's.
So when you say "athletes are obese too" it's not really saying much about their health and athleticism as much as the obesity epidemic we got going.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.click to expand
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore.
Posted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore.click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore. click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.click to expand
I agree. Except Americans aren't lazy. In all the countries I've visited I've yet to see people so fiercely in a rush and under stress to perform. Hardly ever seen an American just do nothing. They're always fiddling around or contemplating what's on the news. Even video gaming is such a mentally busy experience. If anything l I'd say they have a hard time relaxing.
That being said. I believe the weight epidemic is due mainly to life style . They culture shifted from a social one to an antisocial one.
Everything has shifted to rely on technology and interacting through it. People are stressed and engaged in other people's business more than ever before. That equals to instant emotional reactions and instant gratification.
I had this coworker in middle America who always had trouble losing weight, gained and lost quickly, when they were obviously pissed off or stressed they would come out of the lunchroom with a big bag of doritos.
Meanwhile in other cultures like in Italy, that would be frowned upon (socially unacceptable)
And in poorer countries, almost impossible to buy snacks.
So basically as Americans, we have become too efficient, same as Japan except they handle it different culturally. You gotta have balance.
Posted by FuelAirPropellantPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore. click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.
I agree. Except Americans aren't lazy. In all the countries I've visited I've yet to see people so fiercely in a rush and under stress to perform. Hardly ever seen an American just do nothing. They're always fiddling around or contemplating what's on the news. Even video gaming is such a mentally busy experience. If anything l I'd say they have a hard time relaxing.
That being said. I believe the weight epidemic is due mainly to life style . They culture shifted from a social one to an antisocial one.
Everything has shifted to rely on technology and interacting through it. People are stressed and engaged in other people's business more than ever before. That equals to instant emotional reactions and instant gratification.
I had this coworker in middle America who always had trouble losing weight, gained and lost quickly, when they were obviously pissed off or stressed they would come out of the lunchroom with a big bag of doritos.
Meanwhile in other cultures like in Italy, that would be frowned upon (socially unacceptable)
And in poorer countries, almost impossible to buy snacks.
So basically as Americans, we have become too efficient, same as Japan except they handle it different culturally. You gotta have balance.click to expand
Well I don't know maybe not all Americans are lazy but the vast majority of them are. We got lazy young people here in America don't want to get off their asses and go to the gym and workout. I used to do it every single solitary day of the week without giving my poor body a days rest. These young Americans in today's society couldn't do everything I did in my prime without crying and whining like little witches. And yet most people wanna talk crap about me who've done it all and seen everything before they was born. Those are the lazy sorry no good for nothings.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by FuelAirPropellantPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore. click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.
I agree. Except Americans aren't lazy. In all the countries I've visited I've yet to see people so fiercely in a rush and under stress to perform. Hardly ever seen an American just do nothing. They're always fiddling around or contemplating what's on the news. Even video gaming is such a mentally busy experience. If anything l I'd say they have a hard time relaxing.
That being said. I believe the weight epidemic is due mainly to life style . They culture shifted from a social one to an antisocial one.
Everything has shifted to rely on technology and interacting through it. People are stressed and engaged in other people's business more than ever before. That equals to instant emotional reactions and instant gratification.
I had this coworker in middle America who always had trouble losing weight, gained and lost quickly, when they were obviously pissed off or stressed they would come out of the lunchroom with a big bag of doritos.
Meanwhile in other cultures like in Italy, that would be frowned upon (socially unacceptable)
And in poorer countries, almost impossible to buy snacks.
So basically as Americans, we have become too efficient, same as Japan except they handle it different culturally. You gotta have balance. click to expand
Well I don't know maybe not all Americans are lazy but the vast majority of them are. We got lazy young people here in America don't want to get off their asses and go to the gym and workout. I used to do it every single solitary day of the week without giving my poor body a days rest. These young Americans in today's society couldn't do everything I did in my prime without crying and whining like little witches. And yet most people wanna talk crap about me who've done it all and seen everything before they was born. Those are the lazy sorry no good for nothings.click to expand
That is true. New generations don't want to work the tough jobs anymore. That's going to be our downfall (or transformation) cause we all know who's gonna get/take those jobs nobody wants.
You thought Ozempic was good? Wait until the calorically dense folks hear about an even better diabetic medication - Retatrutide..
I mean, personally, metabolic syndrome is murder on our Healthcare system, for EVERYONE, so im all for getting these folks whatever they need so they can see their toes again, before they need amputated. Maybe its kicking the can down the road until they finally learn how to control their sugar intakes on their own, but we can eat that twinkie when we get there.
I mean, personally, metabolic syndrome is murder on our Healthcare system, for EVERYONE, so im all for getting these folks whatever they need so they can see their toes again, before they need amputated. Maybe its kicking the can down the road until they finally learn how to control their sugar intakes on their own, but we can eat that twinkie when we get there.
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You thought Ozempic was good? Wait until the calorically dense folks hear about an even better diabetic medication - Retatrutide..
I mean, personally, metabolic syndrome is murder on our Healthcare system, for EVERYONE, so im all for getting these folks whatever they need so they can see their toes again, before they need amputated. Maybe its kicking the can down the road until they finally learn how to control their sugar intakes on their own, but we can eat that twinkie when we get there.
Well if people take shortcuts to get down to a healthy weight, that won't teach them the discipline to keep the weight down. It's a mental battle to lose weight naturally. So once people take Ozempic and whatever, it won't take long for the weight to come back on if they don't crack down on eating healthier and getting in proper exercise so having taken the weight loss drug will have gone to waste.
Also weight loss drugs have negative side effects.
Posted by goddessofthesunPosted by SadHatter
You thought Ozempic was good? Wait until the calorically dense folks hear about an even better diabetic medication - Retatrutide..
I mean, personally, metabolic syndrome is murder on our Healthcare system, for EVERYONE, so im all for getting these folks whatever they need so they can see their toes again, before they need amputated. Maybe its kicking the can down the road until they finally learn how to control their sugar intakes on their own, but we can eat that twinkie when we get there.
Well if people take shortcuts to get down to a healthy weight, that won't teach them the discipline to keep the weight down. It's a mental battle to lose weight naturally. So once people take Ozempic and whatever, it won't take long for the weight to come back on if they don't crack down on eating healthier and getting in proper exercise so having taken the weight loss drug will have gone to waste.
Also weight loss drugs have negative side effects.click to expand
We're saying the same things, only in reverse. My original post was saying people have either a disconnect or lack of education on how our bodies function. Its like the ocean to them - we have it, we can see it, touch it, we try to fix things we dont understand and wind up fucking up an entire ecosystem. For example we take antibiotics to get through illness, good intentions, right? Antibiotics kill bacteria, we have a bacteria infection causing illness we take take antibiotics to kill the bacteria, duh! However, part of our metabolism is made up of the intestines, the intestines are made up of good bacteria, antibiotics dont differentiate between friend and foe much like weed killer doesn't differentiate between crab grass and your prized roses, the antibiotics kill you microbiome in your gut, which can lead to weight gain, malnutrition, and obesity along with other issues through dysbiosis.
My brain looks at Ozempic for fat loss the same way - its meant to control sugar levels, not lose weight. However weightloss will be a natural byproduct of controlling sugar levels. They go hand and hand. Thats how our systems work. We either use glucose (sugar) or ketones for energy. Glucose can be stored as fat, ketones cannot. Our livers convert fat into ketones when glucose is low (hence why low carb diets work, and caloric restrictions obvioulsy work the same way - if you arent eating much of anything especially sugar, your body will turn to fat to have the liver turn into energyas ketones). Thats why fasting works, thats why calorie deficits work, thats why higher good fat low carb/sugar diets work.
Exercise is a part of it, but we all know you can workout all you want but if youre consuming more than youre expending, you're going to store the excess.
I mean i have grace for people who have so much visceral fat that it can actually keep them from exercising jsut because they have so much pressed up against their organs. Those people are probably either diabetic or pre-diabetic, theres going to be a lot of water retention and swelling, and those are the people these GLP-1s were intended for. So, why be mad? Be happy they have the ability to get the ball rolling in the right direction.
I get where you're coming from - that these medicines dont help the person build dedication and discipline which is what ALL of, well, everything worth having, requires. And we're in conplete agreement there. But, those are character traits, you cant prescribe medicines to change someone's character.. well, kinda but not really lol. Maybe Adderall so they stay focused? 🤷♂️
I may be wrong but think what what youre really getting at are the ones who use it to lose 20 -30 lbs that they could have done with a little work. Again, agreed. Ironically right after you posted this a guy I know who also works out said something about i was getting more cut since we last saw each other a month ago, and I kinda laughed because I dont normally weigh myself, I just look in the mirror and if im happy, im happy, if not, I work harder, but thay morning I weighed myself and had actually gained 15lbs this month.. im tall, so 15 lbs for me is different than most. But the mind games we all know the scale can play, gets to a lot of people. They'll cheat, quit, binge eat then regret i, its a mind fuck sometimes. After I told him this he tells me about the stiff he was taking and how itbwas better than Ozempic and he was trying to get ready for a show. I had to google it. Thats also fucked up in my opinion. He's probably at 10-15% body fat now. Once he dehydrates and fasts before a show he should be in single digits easily, as he was. He doesn't need Reta. But who the fuck am I, I was on gear for years running down a dream that never would come to me. Personally, it did work for me, I got what I wanted.. but like with anything, its a tradeoff.. I keep going, but I dont do gear or hgh anymore, i learned. All my buddies were having heart attacks and strokes, and I noticed my blood getting thicker... a couple chest pains here and there and I was done.
The TLDR is if they're trying to be better, or better themselves, im for it. Its not the perfect solution. Hopefully creates the lattice framework they need to build the discipline to keep it going, the discipline itself will have far more reaching benefits beyond health. Thats best case scenario. Worst case scenario is we have less fat fucks parking in the handicap spaces walking 5 feet before hopping on their motorized shopping carts when we go to any Flordia Walmart. Ill take a win where I see a win.
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