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Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.
Posted by hydorahPosted by WhiskItPosted by hydorah
A great way to lose weight easily is go to sleep early, go to sleep before 9PM. It's necessary to balance your metabolism.
If you want, do the medieval night (sleep 8PM-1am, wake up and write or do some light activity 1am-3am (don't eat). sleep 3am-6am)
Oh.. do you write a book or dream journal during the midieval while? Oh! Btw, have you had any successful lucid dreaming.. oh sorry for the off topic topic.. do you think that the power of our actions during the day can allow us to be able to lucid dream?
I had a great advice to sleep at 8pm - 3am then do prayers.. read.. pray again before walking/running and finish off that morning ritual at sharp 6.15am before doing work. Problem is.. exactly when I would do that?click to expand
Despite my good track record with supernatural activities, I never managed to do lucid dreaming or astral voyage or anything else during sleep (except premonitory dreams but they don't interfer with sleep). Which is probably for the better.
I read about medieval customs in a book.click to expand
I see .. because I learnt about lucid dreaming from a cancer dude way back and his desire of lucid dreaming can be manifested from his desire to control his own emotions and life circumstances.
Whereas astral projections may be stemmed from one's desire of being transported into another human being.. but that's just my perspective of it, the underlying causes. How he talked about systematic anarchy might have also been about his desire to get out of life's matrix but i can't really confirm that since our intimate friendship was done briefly and online anyway. He is basically my main character for my Hypnogogia never-will-be finished novel.
Btw, I think your inclination toward reading into midieval customs may be because how you want to reconnect to your past self.. Idk much about it other than my love for Xena and I never really liked Hercules.. but I agree that ancient Greek civilization is fascinating because of the dynamism. It sparks dynamic life at that time.. whereas compared to now where I sense matrix system, where we are all interchangeable to one sole purpose. How do you see it?
I think that’s a fair opinion to have
I gave them a go earlier this year for the weight loss + blood sugar regulation. Never had blood sugar issues and then suddenly on routine blood work, it had just insanely spiked from the last test 6 months prior - even measuring high on A1C with diet, consistent exercise, etc. Doctor said sometimes this just happens to people and encouraged giving them a try. I don’t have a formal diagnosis for diabetes yet because of the GLP-1 to be honest
Anyway, physically it feels good to be on the GLP-1. I did have hair loss which was the worst side effect (could be genetic too idk). Constipation was pretty bad too, but I eat high fiber to help with that.
I had 2 surgeries since September which had me down for quite a while, and gained back a little weight from being bed ridden and the recovery. Not entirely my fault given the circumstances but angry at myself, I’ve been pushing myself in the gym even though I’m not supposed to do weights for 6 months.
I’m going back on GLP-1 as a “kick start” because I want to be where I was pre surgery, and I’m just upset I’m not, even though I know you can’t really rush these things. I’m impatient. I don’t consider myself needing them to lose or maintain my weight as I was doing that just fine before my surgeries
I gave them a go earlier this year for the weight loss + blood sugar regulation. Never had blood sugar issues and then suddenly on routine blood work, it had just insanely spiked from the last test 6 months prior - even measuring high on A1C with diet, consistent exercise, etc. Doctor said sometimes this just happens to people and encouraged giving them a try. I don’t have a formal diagnosis for diabetes yet because of the GLP-1 to be honest
Anyway, physically it feels good to be on the GLP-1. I did have hair loss which was the worst side effect (could be genetic too idk). Constipation was pretty bad too, but I eat high fiber to help with that.
I had 2 surgeries since September which had me down for quite a while, and gained back a little weight from being bed ridden and the recovery. Not entirely my fault given the circumstances but angry at myself, I’ve been pushing myself in the gym even though I’m not supposed to do weights for 6 months.
I’m going back on GLP-1 as a “kick start” because I want to be where I was pre surgery, and I’m just upset I’m not, even though I know you can’t really rush these things. I’m impatient. I don’t consider myself needing them to lose or maintain my weight as I was doing that just fine before my surgeries
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..
Posted by PilatesBod
I took a glp1 because I have a bunch of nurse friends, one owns a medspa and they were taking it to lose 10-15 vanity pounds for a wedding and I thought why not.
It made me feel sick af so I wouldn’t and couldn’t take it longterm. But I learned something about myself…I have a lot of what’s called “food noise”. My brain definitely feels rewarded by food and looks forward to it. When I was on the glp1 I did not get that hit of dopamine from eating something yummy. Everyone’s volume knob on the dopamine from food is different. It’s not discipline or willpower.
I know I was not always like this because I used to hate eating and was teetering on underweight most of my life. In college I would wear 2 pair of pants to make my legs look bigger. One time I didn’t and the professor who was also a nurse stopped me as I was walking in and said “you’re…really skinny”. Everyone assumed I had an eating disorder but I really just wasn’t hungry and never experienced hunger and food did nothing for me. It felt like a chore to even chew.
Anyway it went on like that until my mid 30s when I experienced a major traumatic event and my whole mind and body shut down and went into survival mode and that’s when I started eating for comfort.
The GLP1 flattens the dopamine spike in your brain. For better or worse.
All I’m saying is, the tables can always turn. One day you’re the girl layering pants to look bigger and the next you’re shoveling peanut butter m&ms because your nervous system is holding on by its fingertips.
Which dose did you take when it made you ill? I am very resistant to this drug!
I didn’t feel anything until the dose was titrated to 10mg, so like 3 months in of nothing and I only ever got to 12mg. I never had the nausea and illnesses associated with it, but I heard it comes with a vengeance if you eat bad/specifically greasy foods day of or up to 1-2 days after injection. So you definitely have to eat clean those first few days
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Borh fat and muscles make up mass of body. Also the level of density of your bones add it too.
So for example, one people eat a lot (without body workouts) and another one eat fairly (with body workouts) that means that one stores fat and another one stores muscles and both can weigh exactly the same. That is what they explain to me a while ago.
@nanochip
I react strongly to all drugs unfortunately. Dental anesthesia is a 20 minute process and it can’t have epinephrine in it. My nervous system has a hairpin trigger. It’s embarrassing and dramatic af. I never took more than .5mg and I lost 15lbs in 4-6 weeks. I can’t fathom 10 or 12 mg.
There are a bunch of grey market options now. I just helped my 2nd mom order some and she’s lost 20lbs in 4 months. She’s 69 and she qualifies for a lung transplant due to lifelong asthma damage so it’s not like she can go for a run. I don’t notice any hair loss with her either, but she never titrated up. She’s stayed at a low dose.
I react strongly to all drugs unfortunately. Dental anesthesia is a 20 minute process and it can’t have epinephrine in it. My nervous system has a hairpin trigger. It’s embarrassing and dramatic af. I never took more than .5mg and I lost 15lbs in 4-6 weeks. I can’t fathom 10 or 12 mg.
There are a bunch of grey market options now. I just helped my 2nd mom order some and she’s lost 20lbs in 4 months. She’s 69 and she qualifies for a lung transplant due to lifelong asthma damage so it’s not like she can go for a run. I don’t notice any hair loss with her either, but she never titrated up. She’s stayed at a low dose.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Yes, in many parts of the world, most are attracted to good looks especially slim lean body for women and muscular toned body for men. But in Africa none of it applies. They like fat women, idk why but they do. I don't really feel as much pressure when it comes to looks other standard well taken care of looks, sanitary, decency in looks (hair, skin, body) business wise, this culture makes fortune out of people's attraction to beauty but I defy it because I don't give much attention to how someone looks as long as they don't smell, clean, and neat.
However, apart from beauty/appearance, health is another matter that should be paid close attention to as it speaks about our life quality in general.
So I defy people who go to gym so that they look attractive but I don't for people who genuinely care about their health.
What about you?
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expand
Are you a doctor too?click to expand
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expandPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Are you a doctor too?
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.click to expand
Pardon my ignorance but what doctor would tell a non diabetic to inject themselves? That doctor need his or her doctor's license revoke. if you got diabetes run in the family your chances of having it is extremely slim. It's like what the op said in the very beginning of this thread. If you on ozempic you lazy it's just that goddamn simple as that. Why yall can't see that? If you are overweight with a family history of it the solution is simple, get yo fat ass out there and exercise and go on a low calorie diet.
it’s glorified as this miracle weight loss drug that Hollywood stars use but the side effects are awful and doesn’t seem healthy overall
Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
And what authority do you have to speak on the subject?? Are you a nutritionalist or a weight loss doctor? No? Sit down. They say it is based on our genetics.click to expand
Are you a doctor too?click to expand
No, I am not but I have a relative on the shot for weight loss. She went on the shot to prevent diabetes and for weight loss. It is what the doctor told her… “were your parents overweight? It is based on our genetics…” her father and mother were both obese. Father had diabetes type 2 and it runs in the family. Doctor recommended the shots to her.click to expand
Well I'm sorry about your cousin but I wouldn't put much trust in today's doctors as they're all puppets working for big pharma,
I'm not saying being obese can't be genetics, what I'm trying to say is a very small portion of the population has that, and not actually what the experts are saying,
You should watch Food Inc documentary, if you want to be enlightenedclick to expand
With all due respect, doctors spend their whole lives researching (not Google) and being educated to keep their license. They also go to school for an extended amount of time… I certainly would not want to be one because it’s too much information that need to remember, learn, and keep up on.
On that note, there is an acknowledgment that the foods in America are not the best. There’s a lot of processed foods and foods that have dyes. RFK Jr is actively changing that. Also, I think some people lead sedentary life style s that can contribute to it, but this is not all inclusive. The OP is rather judgmental and putting all people on the shots under one umbrella.
Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
LOL…. 😆 Okay 👌
Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
I love how people spout or spew some contradictory information but do not elaborate. That’s why I am laughing at you. Lmfao!! 😂
Not to mention, my relative went from 240 lbs to 165 lbs. Wonder how jealous and envious you, the OP, and some others may be of that.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Yes, in many parts of the world, most are attracted to good looks especially slim lean body for women and muscular toned body for men. But in Africa none of it applies. They like fat women, idk why but they do. I don't really feel as much pressure when it comes to looks other standard well taken care of looks, sanitary, decency in looks (hair, skin, body) business wise, this culture makes fortune out of people's attraction to beauty but I defy it because I don't give much attention to how someone looks as long as they don't smell, clean, and neat.
However, apart from beauty/appearance, health is another matter that should be paid close attention to as it speaks about our life quality in general.
So I defy people who go to gym so that they look attractive but I don't for people who genuinely care about their health.
What about you?click to expand
I am from Africa and yes people here like rounder women, growing up it was a lot of pressure to gain weight since I was super skinny, now as an adult, I care a little less about being curvy and more about being healthy,
Still not the healthiest person but I do my best to look good nakedclick to expand
Apparently that speaks about how Africans don't like to work on their bodies.. however funny they are obsessed with bass (big ass) and I think the reason is because they don't like women who has power.
Yeah me too, I totally understand about how it makes us feel better understanding our body makes us feel attractive (to ourselves, mostly, increased self-esteem) but yes the supposedly main purpose is to be healthy. I am right now feel lazy because life threw lemons consequently and I should make a lemonade very soon. It starts with body. Men sana er corpore sano.
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
Posted by Generous1987Posted by WhiskItPosted by Generous1987Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right.click to expand
Bullshit!
If you look at older photographs or videos you'll notice fewer people were overweight compared to todayclick to expand
Yes, i think it is more likely due to social good and durable trend of healthy life style "movement". Modern society has taken its toll on fast-paced "energy" that if we don't live in a healthy way we could most likely be left behind so it is more on instinctual need to keep up with the pace of life.
Gyms are spreading, healthy diet products are growing and widespread, training coaches are hired with high regards..click to expand
Movement or not, we live in a society where people are valued by their looks and we can't do anything about it, it's part of humanity, some cultures are different than others, they appreciate curvier women, but I think most importantly people should be aware of their health and should take care of their bodies,click to expand
Depends on what's in the food. Usa has lots of preservatives and enriched versions of normal foods. Like corn syrup, sucralose, aspartame, datem, BHT, sunflower oil, msg etc. Avoid these ingredients as much as possible and you can still eat well and have less side effects.
Stress. Also life in American cities are sometimes akin to war zone vibes, raising cortisol and creating a craving for high fat, sugar, salt foods for comfort.
How many times have we seen or eaten fast food or donuts ina hurry cause we have no time.
I swear - Some people are slower than molasses.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
click to expand
Hmm. Okay. Thank you for being humble and honest, I truly appreciate it ! 😁
The point I’m trying to make is there are obese athletes. The NFL is a perfect example of where some of these obese athletes are in sports. 🏈 Do you really think they do not work out? That they do not exercise and are “lazy”? It’s a common misconception about overweight and obese people. And that they do not eat right? Or eat healthy foods?
They may be healthy, but their BMI is still over 30.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
I love how people spout or spew some contradictory information but do not elaborate. That’s why I am laughing at you. Lmfao!! 😂
Not to mention, my relative went from 240 lbs to 165 lbs. Wonder how jealous and envious you, the OP, and some others may be of that.click to expand
I promise you that nobody would be jealous of anyone for using a cheat code to lose weight. Lol. You're slow.
Posted by goddessofthesunPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by SadHatterPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
Thats not at all how any GLP1 injections work. Theyre for diabetics for a reason.click to expand
I love how people spout or spew some contradictory information but do not elaborate. That’s why I am laughing at you. Lmfao!! 😂
Not to mention, my relative went from 240 lbs to 165 lbs. Wonder how jealous and envious you, the OP, and some others may be of that.click to expand
I promise you that nobody would be jealous of anyone for using a cheat code to lose weight. Lol. You're slow.click to expand
Honestly, I have Diabetes type 2 that is very controlled and take Ozempic and Metformin for it. I have lost 100 lbs. I live in your judgmental head and you had to come make a topic about it judging obese and overweight people who use Ozempic and other shots to lose weight. Just admit it, you’re an unhappy person who wants to make other people feel like shit. Well, it’s not working and I will show your ass as it is to others. 😁
Posted by goddessofthesunPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
They clearly don't keep up with the diet and exercise required to be able to lose weight. You're basically hurt that I'm not enabling complacency when it comes to health.click to expand
What about the obese and overweight NFL sports players?? They don’t keep up with a diet and exercise regularly?? You’re full of shit and are living in a glass house. You want to feel better than others because you work out and eat right believing that others don’t.
Posted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
click to expand
Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
click to expand
They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
click to expand
Hmm. Okay. Thank you for being humble and honest, I truly appreciate it ! 😁
The point I’m trying to make is there are obese athletes. The NFL is a perfect example of where some of these obese athletes are in sports. 🏈 Do you really think they do not work out? That they do not exercise and are “lazy”? It’s a common misconception about overweight and obese people. And that they do not eat right? Or eat healthy foods?
They may be healthy, but their BMI is still over 30.click to expand
Sorry but no, they are not healthy. What makes them healthy? Are you seriousely trying to tell me it's their metabolism that's broken, not the amount of food they shovel into themselves?
@Bluemoon86
https://coldpizzadotme.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/nfl-players-under-pressure-2/
It is not a healthy life style . Sign of the times. It's the same shit that's been dominating bodybuilding since the 80's and 90's.
So when you say "athletes are obese too" it's not really saying much about their health and athleticism as much as the obesity epidemic we got going.
https://coldpizzadotme.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/nfl-players-under-pressure-2/
It is not a healthy life style . Sign of the times. It's the same shit that's been dominating bodybuilding since the 80's and 90's.
So when you say "athletes are obese too" it's not really saying much about their health and athleticism as much as the obesity epidemic we got going.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.click to expand
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore.
Posted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore.click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore. click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.click to expand
I agree. Except Americans aren't lazy. In all the countries I've visited I've yet to see people so fiercely in a rush and under stress to perform. Hardly ever seen an American just do nothing. They're always fiddling around or contemplating what's on the news. Even video gaming is such a mentally busy experience. If anything l I'd say they have a hard time relaxing.
That being said. I believe the weight epidemic is due mainly to life style . They culture shifted from a social one to an antisocial one.
Everything has shifted to rely on technology and interacting through it. People are stressed and engaged in other people's business more than ever before. That equals to instant emotional reactions and instant gratification.
I had this coworker in middle America who always had trouble losing weight, gained and lost quickly, when they were obviously pissed off or stressed they would come out of the lunchroom with a big bag of doritos.
Meanwhile in other cultures like in Italy, that would be frowned upon (socially unacceptable)
And in poorer countries, almost impossible to buy snacks.
So basically as Americans, we have become too efficient, same as Japan except they handle it different culturally. You gotta have balance.
Posted by FuelAirPropellantPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore. click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.
I agree. Except Americans aren't lazy. In all the countries I've visited I've yet to see people so fiercely in a rush and under stress to perform. Hardly ever seen an American just do nothing. They're always fiddling around or contemplating what's on the news. Even video gaming is such a mentally busy experience. If anything l I'd say they have a hard time relaxing.
That being said. I believe the weight epidemic is due mainly to life style . They culture shifted from a social one to an antisocial one.
Everything has shifted to rely on technology and interacting through it. People are stressed and engaged in other people's business more than ever before. That equals to instant emotional reactions and instant gratification.
I had this coworker in middle America who always had trouble losing weight, gained and lost quickly, when they were obviously pissed off or stressed they would come out of the lunchroom with a big bag of doritos.
Meanwhile in other cultures like in Italy, that would be frowned upon (socially unacceptable)
And in poorer countries, almost impossible to buy snacks.
So basically as Americans, we have become too efficient, same as Japan except they handle it different culturally. You gotta have balance.click to expand
Well I don't know maybe not all Americans are lazy but the vast majority of them are. We got lazy young people here in America don't want to get off their asses and go to the gym and workout. I used to do it every single solitary day of the week without giving my poor body a days rest. These young Americans in today's society couldn't do everything I did in my prime without crying and whining like little witches. And yet most people wanna talk crap about me who've done it all and seen everything before they was born. Those are the lazy sorry no good for nothings.
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by FuelAirPropellantPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by PilatesBodPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
These are for those who lack comprehension. All it takes is to Google and read up. Keep on keepin on taking injections made specifically for diabetics and see what gon happen.
Not looking to start a debate but Viagra was “made” for heart patients. A lot of medications have off label uses. Never mind that it’s been approved by the FDA for weight loss since 2021, so glp1s are not specifically for diabetics anymore. click to expand
But the million dollar question remains. Are they exercising and eating right to use that thing? You see I don't have no sympathy for fat people who feel sorry for themselves while still gorging themselves to a slow death simply because they did it to themselves. And cheating to lose weight only makes you a loser, not your weight. People who uses any injection or drugs to lose weight are indeed lazy because they just don't want to do the right thing and the only sure fire safe way to go about it. We even got skinny people who dont need to shed nothing taking that stuff. I'll be the 1st American to say this. Americans are lazy.
I agree. Except Americans aren't lazy. In all the countries I've visited I've yet to see people so fiercely in a rush and under stress to perform. Hardly ever seen an American just do nothing. They're always fiddling around or contemplating what's on the news. Even video gaming is such a mentally busy experience. If anything l I'd say they have a hard time relaxing.
That being said. I believe the weight epidemic is due mainly to life style . They culture shifted from a social one to an antisocial one.
Everything has shifted to rely on technology and interacting through it. People are stressed and engaged in other people's business more than ever before. That equals to instant emotional reactions and instant gratification.
I had this coworker in middle America who always had trouble losing weight, gained and lost quickly, when they were obviously pissed off or stressed they would come out of the lunchroom with a big bag of doritos.
Meanwhile in other cultures like in Italy, that would be frowned upon (socially unacceptable)
And in poorer countries, almost impossible to buy snacks.
So basically as Americans, we have become too efficient, same as Japan except they handle it different culturally. You gotta have balance. click to expand
Well I don't know maybe not all Americans are lazy but the vast majority of them are. We got lazy young people here in America don't want to get off their asses and go to the gym and workout. I used to do it every single solitary day of the week without giving my poor body a days rest. These young Americans in today's society couldn't do everything I did in my prime without crying and whining like little witches. And yet most people wanna talk crap about me who've done it all and seen everything before they was born. Those are the lazy sorry no good for nothings.click to expand
That is true. New generations don't want to work the tough jobs anymore. That's going to be our downfall (or transformation) cause we all know who's gonna get/take those jobs nobody wants.
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You thought Ozempic was good? Wait until the calorically dense folks hear about an even better diabetic medication - Retatrutide..
I mean, personally, metabolic syndrome is murder on our Healthcare system, for EVERYONE, so im all for getting these folks whatever they need so they can see their toes again, before they need amputated. Maybe its kicking the can down the road until they finally learn how to control their sugar intakes on their own, but we can eat that twinkie when we get there.
Well if people take shortcuts to get down to a healthy weight, that won't teach them the discipline to keep the weight down. It's a mental battle to lose weight naturally. So once people take Ozempic and whatever, it won't take long for the weight to come back on if they don't crack down on eating healthier and getting in proper exercise so having taken the weight loss drug will have gone to waste.
Also weight loss drugs have negative side effects.
My boss's wife is paying $ 1200/3mo for her weight loss shots. That's $ 400/mo. Most personal trainers charge less than that for their programs.
She's not even obese.
She's not even obese.
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Bluemoon86Posted by goddessofthesun
You're lazy and need to work out and fix your diet instead.
You’re assuming that those who are overweight or obese do not exercise or eat a good diet. You’re basically ignorant and arrogant about it.click to expand
First law of thermodynamics would disagree with you lolclick to expand
😂
Okay, but how do explain athletes that are bigger, overweight, obese? Football players who obviously work out and eat right.click to expand
Obese athletes, is that a thing? Lol
Football players don't "eat right", they eat at a huge calorie surplus to be able to fuel their workouts and physical development. In layman's terms, they are "overweight" by choice, not because of their metabolism.
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Yes, it is a thing for some athletes to be obese. And I would disagree with you. Our metabolism and our weight is more determined from our genetics as opposed to working out and eating right. click to expand
Lol @ yes, it's a thing for athletes to be obese.
You are to fat people what gender studies are to the trans movement.
Again. Football players have to eat at calorie surplus in order to fuel their training regiment and maintain their physique. They are not by definitiom obese. Especially not involuntarily.
Furthermore none of that matters because what's discussed in the INABILITY to lose weight despite supposedly being at kcal defecit. No metabolism will prevent you from losing weight if you change your life style and diet.
There are conditions that hold on to fat you have more stubbornly, but shitty metabolism still can't magically turn air into fat. You simply need to make a minor but crucial life style change.
I am not at my best most of the year... not because I'm bulking but simply because pussy and kcal dense foods are my only vices. I don't blame it on metabolism. It is what it is and I accept it.click to expand
I do not think you watch much of the American NFL. There are stacks of men on the O-line and D-line that are obese. Once you acknowledge that, we will be getting some common ground.
The way these shots (Ozempic, Monjauro, Wengovy, etc) work is by actually sending a signal to the brain that you are full while eating, so essentially the weight loss is caused by eating less.
On that note, there are underlying health conditions that people have that cause weight gain, such as PCOS. These people can spend their entire lives trying to eat right or eat a balanced diet and working out… still not lose weight. With that said, I see no harm and no foul with them using the shots for weight loss.
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They are not "obsese" because they are healthy, and they are unhealthy by choice not because playing football makes them obese > therefore "must be healthy". Or I don't know what point you're trying to make exactly.
PCOS , same thing as other conditions, calories can't be created out of thin air. As with slow metabolism, you're looking at something like 200-500 kcal difference from your average person. That's a 100 gram chocolate bar at the most.
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Hmm. Okay. Thank you for being humble and honest, I truly appreciate it ! 😁
The point I’m trying to make is there are obese athletes. The NFL is a perfect example of where some of these obese athletes are in sports. 🏈 Do you really think they do not work out? That they do not exercise and are “lazy”? It’s a common misconception about overweight and obese people. And that they do not eat right? Or eat healthy foods?
They may be healthy, but their BMI is still over 30. click to expand
Sorry but no, they are not healthy. What makes them healthy? Are you seriousely trying to tell me it's their metabolism that's broken, not the amount of food they shovel into themselves?click to expand
I’m lost on what you are trying to say here. Do you not watch American football?
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@Bluemoon86
https://coldpizzadotme.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/nfl-players-under-pressure-2/
It is not a healthy life style . Sign of the times. It's the same shit that's been dominating bodybuilding since the 80's and 90's.
So when you say "athletes are obese too" it's not really saying much about their health and athleticism as much as the obesity epidemic we got going.
I know.
Perhaps you are missing my point or I am not conveying it here?? There are obese athletes who work out (exercise). And I do not how they eat , but it’s obvious right before your eyes 👀 (if you are watching) —— that they work out. They exercise. Now go read the OP. She’s assuming obese people do not work out.
Honestly, she sounds unhappy and miserable. Misery loves company and she is trying to make others who are on the shot feel like she does.
Posted by goddessofthesun
My boss's wife is paying $ 1200/3mo for her weight loss shots. That's $ 400/mo. Most personal trainers charge less than that for their programs.
She's not even obese.
My stripper friend just paid $ 700 to get on Ozempic and is pretty slim. She drank lots of liquids, ate sodium i guess to jack her weight up to overweight and took bloated pictures which got her approved online. Then she tells me "ill lyk if it works". Im like dude I ain't need that shit! xD I dropped to 112 lbs recently thank god. & ofc it's going to work, I cant believe she was approved and chose to do it though. Her money 🤷♀️ she just got a breast augmentation I don't think she needed either. But shes Venezuelan and one of the top earners at her club so shes got money to play with 🤷♀️
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by goddessofthesun
My boss's wife is paying $ 1200/3mo for her weight loss shots. That's $ 400/mo. Most personal trainers charge less than that for their programs.
She's not even obese.
My stripper friend just paid $ 700 to get on Ozempic and is pretty slim. She drank lots of liquids, ate sodium i guess to jack her weight up to overweight and took bloated pictures which got her approved online. Then she tells me "ill lyk if it works". Im like dude I ain't need that shit! xD I dropped to 112 lbs recently thank god. & ofc it's going to work, I cant believe she was approved and chose to do it though. Her money 🤷♀️ she just got a breast augmentation I don't think she needed either. But shes Venezuelan and one of the top earners at her club so shes got money to play with 🤷♀️click to expand
How tall are you? I'm 5'4" and got down to 108 which was scary lol I told my trainer "uh I think we went a little far with this cut 😭" lol. Did your stripper friend feel like she needed the weight loss? Does she has body image issues?
Posted by goddessofthesunPosted by MidAtBestPosted by goddessofthesun
My boss's wife is paying $ 1200/3mo for her weight loss shots. That's $ 400/mo. Most personal trainers charge less than that for their programs.
She's not even obese.
My stripper friend just paid $ 700 to get on Ozempic and is pretty slim. She drank lots of liquids, ate sodium i guess to jack her weight up to overweight and took bloated pictures which got her approved online. Then she tells me "ill lyk if it works". Im like dude I ain't need that shit! xD I dropped to 112 lbs recently thank god. & ofc it's going to work, I cant believe she was approved and chose to do it though. Her money 🤷♀️ she just got a breast augmentation I don't think she needed either. But shes Venezuelan and one of the top earners at her club so shes got money to play with 🤷♀️click to expand
How tall are you? I'm 5'4" and got down to 108 which was scary lol I told my trainer "uh I think we went a little far with this cut 😭" lol. Did your stripper friend feel like she needed the weight loss? Does she has body image issues?click to expand
Yeah shes very invested in looksmaxing. Im 5'1
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by goddessofthesunPosted by MidAtBestPosted by goddessofthesun
My boss's wife is paying $ 1200/3mo for her weight loss shots. That's $ 400/mo. Most personal trainers charge less than that for their programs.
She's not even obese.
My stripper friend just paid $ 700 to get on Ozempic and is pretty slim. She drank lots of liquids, ate sodium i guess to jack her weight up to overweight and took bloated pictures which got her approved online. Then she tells me "ill lyk if it works". Im like dude I ain't need that shit! xD I dropped to 112 lbs recently thank god. & ofc it's going to work, I cant believe she was approved and chose to do it though. Her money 🤷♀️ she just got a breast augmentation I don't think she needed either. But shes Venezuelan and one of the top earners at her club so shes got money to play with 🤷♀️click to expand
How tall are you? I'm 5'4" and got down to 108 which was scary lol I told my trainer "uh I think we went a little far with this cut 😭" lol. Did your stripper friend feel like she needed the weight loss? Does she has body image issues?click to expand
Yeah shes very invested in looksmaxing. Im 5'1click to expand
Damn 😭 I'm so glad I'm done cutting bc I need some more muscle. I'm 109 now
Started taking this after reading this thread, feel great now. Dunno what all the fuss is about.
I took Zepbound this year.
My background: I was in great shape from general athletics from childhood up through my late 20s. I had an 8-pack from the ages of 13 to 26.
Then, somewhere around 28 I started to put on relationship weight. Then by my early 30s, I put on depression weight when things started to go bad. When that relationship ended, I did experience slight stress weight loss, but then- at 32- for the first time in my life, I experienced comfort eating. And got severely depressed. And went to the fattest I've ever been, by far.
To be honest, a part of myself wanted/intentionally let myself go, because I always intended to lose it, and I thought it may be good for me to experience obesity. Also, Rob McElhenney kind of served as an inspiration, and I thought it would be sorta funny, if I could get pretty fat and then turn heel and become the most fit I've ever been in my life. That was half of my thought process, and the other half was that eating until my stomach hurt made me feel better about my demons.
I'm 6'0. I was at 256 in April of this year (the most I've ever weighed in my life). I got down to 170 by October which was the deadline I set for myself to come off of it. Then late October right when I came off of it, I got really bad food poisoning, and while I was too out of my mind to weigh myself, I have no doubt I got down to the 160s. That's my high school weight.
The plan when I started Zepbound at the end of April was to drop down to 185 by October, then put on 15 lbs of lean mass, because I've always known that if I was 200lbs lean, that'd be sort of my ideal. But when I lost that weight months ahead of schedule, I decided to keep losing weight until my October deadline, as I figured there was a good chance my appetite would spike coming off of it, and it'd be a good idea to give myself extra buffer, anyway.
When I started in April, I physically couldn't work out. Years of being sedentary and all the extra weight. I would gas just walking a mile. WALKING. I couldn't do a single pull-up. I think it wasn't until towards the end of May that I found the mental fortitude to force myself to start actually working out. But I channelled my shame and sadness and what was left of my sex drive to force myself, and it definitely gets easier. I can't speak to the results of simply taking weight loss meds and NOT working out, but I think if you do both... it's definitely worth it. I have been off Zepbound for a few months now, and am still sitting in the high 170s, and I am now in a bulking phase for the winter, so I'm not quite as defined as I was at my trimmest.
But here are my progress pics from the night before I started Zepbound (end of April) to earlier today. If you're considering weight loss meds, I hope it can give some encouragement. I'm still not where I want to be, but I feel better than I have in years.
My background: I was in great shape from general athletics from childhood up through my late 20s. I had an 8-pack from the ages of 13 to 26.
Then, somewhere around 28 I started to put on relationship weight. Then by my early 30s, I put on depression weight when things started to go bad. When that relationship ended, I did experience slight stress weight loss, but then- at 32- for the first time in my life, I experienced comfort eating. And got severely depressed. And went to the fattest I've ever been, by far.
To be honest, a part of myself wanted/intentionally let myself go, because I always intended to lose it, and I thought it may be good for me to experience obesity. Also, Rob McElhenney kind of served as an inspiration, and I thought it would be sorta funny, if I could get pretty fat and then turn heel and become the most fit I've ever been in my life. That was half of my thought process, and the other half was that eating until my stomach hurt made me feel better about my demons.
I'm 6'0. I was at 256 in April of this year (the most I've ever weighed in my life). I got down to 170 by October which was the deadline I set for myself to come off of it. Then late October right when I came off of it, I got really bad food poisoning, and while I was too out of my mind to weigh myself, I have no doubt I got down to the 160s. That's my high school weight.
The plan when I started Zepbound at the end of April was to drop down to 185 by October, then put on 15 lbs of lean mass, because I've always known that if I was 200lbs lean, that'd be sort of my ideal. But when I lost that weight months ahead of schedule, I decided to keep losing weight until my October deadline, as I figured there was a good chance my appetite would spike coming off of it, and it'd be a good idea to give myself extra buffer, anyway.
When I started in April, I physically couldn't work out. Years of being sedentary and all the extra weight. I would gas just walking a mile. WALKING. I couldn't do a single pull-up. I think it wasn't until towards the end of May that I found the mental fortitude to force myself to start actually working out. But I channelled my shame and sadness and what was left of my sex drive to force myself, and it definitely gets easier. I can't speak to the results of simply taking weight loss meds and NOT working out, but I think if you do both... it's definitely worth it. I have been off Zepbound for a few months now, and am still sitting in the high 170s, and I am now in a bulking phase for the winter, so I'm not quite as defined as I was at my trimmest.
But here are my progress pics from the night before I started Zepbound (end of April) to earlier today. If you're considering weight loss meds, I hope it can give some encouragement. I'm still not where I want to be, but I feel better than I have in years.
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