PancakeFace
@PancakeFace
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Touchy subject! I offended my Leo
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So you blamed the victim?
Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
Apologize and tell her you spoke without thinking, that your words were callous, and that you hope her sister recovers from that traumatic experience. Tell her you are there for her if she ever needs to talk (it must have some psychological effect on your GF considering it was her sister who was attacked.) Aplogize again. That's what I would do.
Posted by PancakeFaceit doesn't matter her past, the company she keeps, or what she was doing...NO ONE has the RIGHT to some one else body ...and I understand why leo is upset ...its her sister and of course will be protective over herPosted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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Posted by pakmaiI didn't bring up her sexuality to the Leo, nope.
It sounds victim blaming when you bring up her sexual activity but as far as the group she hangs out with, it's an understandable observation. It was douchey if you brought up her sexuality to the Leo.
But yeah that's what I thought, thanks.
I understand what you were saying however comma... Because of what happened and the fact that it was her sister, she's not fully understanding your words. She probably never will. Just save face and apologize. You may not win this one bruh
Posted by PancakeFaceI don't think you "looked at it" from any perspective. Your comment was judgemental and arrogant, and there was nothing intellectual or thought-provoking about it.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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Posted by ForeverlovemeVery true and I completely agree with what you said. I just said what I did in a careless way. That was my mistake.
I think it's best to clarify what you meant because what you said is not the same thing as what she said.
I feel like she took the stance that some people take when saying women shouldn't dress provocatively to draw that type of attention so blaming rape on the way a woman dresses.
My suggestion is a) apoligize b) approach it from a standpoint of concern about the company she keeps rather than the I'm not surprised approach
Posted by mzmeeThanks man, I agree with what you said.
I understand what you were saying however comma... Because of what happened and the fact that it was her sister, she's not fully understanding your words. She probably never will. Just save face and apologize. You may not win this one bruh
What he said wasn't actually a judgement of her sister but of the company She keeps. He pretty much said the people her sister kick it with seem like they'll do some shit like that.
Posted by LillyPetalCool because that's how I feel about yours lolPosted by PancakeFaceI don't think you "looked at it" from any perspective. Your comment was judgemental and arrogant, and there was nothing intellectual or thought-provoking about it.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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Posted by PancakeFaceI stand by all I said. Good luck in your life.Posted by LillyPetalCool because that's how I feel about yours lolPosted by PancakeFaceI don't think you "looked at it" from any perspective. Your comment was judgemental and arrogant, and there was nothing intellectual or thought-provoking about it.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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Posted by Cancan26I did state all of that in my post.Posted by PancakeFaceit doesn't matter her past, the company she keeps, or what she was doing...NO ONE has the RIGHT to some one else body ...and I understand why leo is upset ...its her sister and of course will be protective over herPosted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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Posted by ForeverlovemeThis.
I think it's best to clarify what you meant because what you said is not the same thing as what she said.
I feel like she took the stance that some people take when saying women shouldn't dress provocatively to draw that type of attention so blaming rape on the way a woman dresses.
My suggestion is a) apoligize b) approach it from a standpoint of concern about the company she keeps rather than the I'm not surprised approach
Saying that you're not surprised is actually quite condescending towards that situation so yeah, your Leo got offended.
Posted by PancakeFaceI think what you fail to realize, is that all the well wishes and thats terrible are all negated as soon as you blamed the victim.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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Are you male or female?
Posted by PancakeFacePosted by Cancan26I did state all of that in my post.Posted by PancakeFaceit doesn't matter her past, the company she keeps, or what she was doing...NO ONE has the RIGHT to some one else body ...and I understand why leo is upset ...its her sister and of course will be protective over herPosted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
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you did but in your answer to dmv ...you said you were simply looking at it from a different perspective that she put herself in a dangerous situation and that you weren't surprised that this happened to her ..
I was simply pointing out to you ....that you shouldn't be looking at it from a different perspective b/c it didn't matter what the girl did... the dude shouldn't have raped her ....it doesn't make you a bad person just an insensitive one
Posted by DMVPosted by PancakeFaceI think what you fail to realize, is that all the well wishes and thats terrible are all negated as soon as you blamed the victim.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
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this
Sister's sign?
Posted by Explicither sister was violated and humiliated and his was response was "I"m not surprised" it was arrogant and insensitivePosted by Cancan26Posted by PancakeFacePosted by Cancan26I did state all of that in my post.Posted by PancakeFaceit doesn't matter her past, the company she keeps, or what she was doing...NO ONE has the RIGHT to some one else body ...and I understand why leo is upset ...its her sister and of course will be protective over herPosted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
you did but in your answer to dmv ...you said you were simply looking at it from a different perspective that she put herself in a dangerous situation and that you weren't surprised that this happened to her ..
I was simply pointing out to you ....that you shouldn't be looking at it from a different perspective b/c it didn't matter what the girl did... the dude shouldn't have raped her ....it doesn't make you a bad person just an insensitive one
Expecting the dude who is clearly a bad person to not rape her is like expecting a lion not to kill it's prey. It doesn't work like that in the real world. The real world is not fair. That's why we as people need to stop putting ourselves in dangerous situations. Let me go walk into a serial killers house and expect not to get killed. lol. It's so unrealistic.click to expand
I'm not sure where your getting these stereotypes from ----rapist come in all races, backgrounds, educational levels --just because someone has problems with drugs doesn't make them a rapist? just because seems respectable doesn't make them not dangerous
Apologize profusely. Never blame the victim.
@PancakeFace
Well yeah... when you hang around shitty people, the
likelihood of shitty things happening to you
increases, exponentially.
Sounds like it was meant to be a reflection
of the company she keeps--which sounds pretty
dangerous-- and not her character.
But yeah, apologize for hurting her because apparently,
you did.
:/
Well yeah... when you hang around shitty people, the
likelihood of shitty things happening to you
increases, exponentially.
Sounds like it was meant to be a reflection
of the company she keeps--which sounds pretty
dangerous-- and not her character.
But yeah, apologize for hurting her because apparently,
you did.
:/
People seem to be getting pretty damn upset.
So I'm gonna delete this thread by thanks to those who left some constructive feedback.
So I'm gonna delete this thread by thanks to those who left some constructive feedback.
@Explicit was about to post something similar.
The fact that it was a rape is why no one is seeing this perspective.
The fact that it was a rape is why no one is seeing this perspective.
Awe I was gonna say something : ( but okay
Posted by SagiScorpThank you! Spoken calmly and constructively. That's basically all I was trying to say originally.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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Posted by SunsetvirgoYou're welcome to say something if you want. Just seems like a lot of people are getting upset here.
Awe I was gonna say something : ( but okay
I see where you're coming from though.
You have concern of who your friends sister hangs around and how those people reflect and contribute to her life.
But how you voiced your concern was probably not in the best tone or best word choice.
Apologize, and try to sympathize and voice your concern for the people she's hanging around in a softer tone.
You have concern of who your friends sister hangs around and how those people reflect and contribute to her life.
But how you voiced your concern was probably not in the best tone or best word choice.
Apologize, and try to sympathize and voice your concern for the people she's hanging around in a softer tone.
Posted by PancakeFaceI understandPosted by SunsetvirgoYou're welcome to say something if you want. Just seems like a lot of people are getting upset here.
Awe I was gonna say something : ( but okayclick to expand
Posted by PancakeFaceI think youre the only one who really is upset with the ppl who are disagreeing with you
People seem to be getting pretty damn upset.
So I'm gonna delete this thread by thanks to those who left some constructive feedback.
Were just talking
Posted by DMVUpset about what? We all have different opinions.Posted by PancakeFaceI think youre the only one who really is upset with the ppl who are disagreeing with you
People seem to be getting pretty damn upset.
So I'm gonna delete this thread by thanks to those who left some constructive feedback.
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@Explicit
that was the whole point of my post .... his comment was insensitive we all AGREE.. even op himself ....but I, dmv and couple other users were simply explaining WHY it was insensitive...you trying to explain the logical behind it doesn't matter cause agree that he should have kept the comment to his self ...and yes I understand how the world works but in 2016 people shouldn't be finding a way to blame the victim ....we as a society need to change our thinking
that was the whole point of my post .... his comment was insensitive we all AGREE.. even op himself ....but I, dmv and couple other users were simply explaining WHY it was insensitive...you trying to explain the logical behind it doesn't matter cause agree that he should have kept the comment to his self ...and yes I understand how the world works but in 2016 people shouldn't be finding a way to blame the victim ....we as a society need to change our thinking
lol. And the girl in question is the dudes sister for goodness sake.
I think this is a good lesson in tact. It can go way further than "keeping it real."
I think this is a good lesson in tact. It can go way further than "keeping it real."
I dont see what you said as blaming the victim, and this is coming from someone with close ties to this sort of thing. I think you should try practing more mindfulness simply because most would of known that comment could rub someone already emotionally vunerable the wrong way.
Im confused whose male or female.. Lol
Posted by malloryorThank you and I agree. I will keep that in mind.
I dont see what you said as blaming the victim, and this is coming from someone with close ties to this sort of thing. I think you should try practing more mindfulness simply because most would of known that comment could rub someone already emotionally vunerable the wrong way.
Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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You cant say to someone " thats terrible, shitty BUT"
everything after the "but" is gonna get you in hot water.
Im a sag, trust i know. My foot in mouth disease is legendary.
However. Even if you claim that wasnt your intention, thats how it was recieved. Perception is the reality.
Accept how it was recieved and then build a bridge for communication.
everything after the "but" is gonna get you in hot water.
Im a sag, trust i know. My foot in mouth disease is legendary.
However. Even if you claim that wasnt your intention, thats how it was recieved. Perception is the reality.
Accept how it was recieved and then build a bridge for communication.
Posted by malloryorBelieve it or not it was actually coming from a place of concern. It just wasn't very tactful the way I said it. But yeah I agree with what you said.Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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Posted by PancakeFaceI did I wanted to get to the root cause more than just saying I'm sorry that happened. Because yeah words are comforting and showing your support is one thing. what I wanted was to shed some light on the situation and possibly help to ensure it didn't happen again.Posted by malloryorBelieve it or not it was actually coming from a place of concern. It just wasn't very tactful the way I said it. But yeah I agree with what you said.Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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Posted by PancakeFaceI can see that you did probably mean well and I am sure her family would agree, her life style choices need to change but unfortunately, rape and sexual assualt thay can turn an already emotionally weak person weaker, just like it can turn a strong person weak. Sexual assualta are absolutely devasting, so this girl will need more support than ever and less criticism about how her life choices and environment are creating this discourse and disharmony. She will need to figure that bit on her own.Posted by malloryorBelieve it or not it was actually coming from a place of concern. It just wasn't very tactful the way I said it. But yeah I agree with what you said.Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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Posted by xXxAliciaXxXLmaoPosted by PancakeFaceEvery single person here left constructive feedback.
People seem to be getting pretty damn upset.
So I'm gonna delete this thread by thanks to those who left some constructive feedback.
Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not constructive or valuable advice.
The more I keep reading through this thread the more I see why your girlfriend is pist at you. You really are quite arrogant. You're lucky she didn't dump you.click to expand
Thank you for your constructive feedback
Posted by xXxAliciaXxX......tis true OP. You're being stubborn and passive aggressivePosted by PancakeFaceEvery single person here left constructive feedback.
People seem to be getting pretty damn upset.
So I'm gonna delete this thread by thanks to those who left some constructive feedback.
Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not constructive or valuable advice.
The more I keep reading through this thread the more I see why your girlfriend is pist at you. You really are quite arrogant. You're lucky she didn't dump you.click to expand
Posted by Explicityes it is realistic... you tell your son that it doesn't matter what girl is wearing that doesn't give you permission to have sex with her ...you teach your son that if she is drunk and can't consent.... and you have sex with her anyway ...you can and will GO TO JAIL...that you don't attack people and expect to be excused for it ....and then everyone (lawmakers, judges and society) needs to HOLD them to these values ....Posted by Cancan26
@Explicit
that was the whole point of my post .... his comment was insensitive we all AGREE.. even op himself ....but I, dmv and couple other users were simply explaining WHY it was insensitive...you trying to explain the logical behind it doesn't matter cause agree that he should have kept the comment to his self ...and yes I understand how the world works but in 2016 people shouldn't be finding a way to blame the victim ....we as a society need to change our thinking
By pointing out logic and the obvious, no one is blaming the victim. The victim didn't commit the crime onto herself. And it would be catastrophic and dangerous if society changed their thinking. I don't want parents telling their kids that this is a safe world, and that you can walk around late at night in bad neighborhoods, that females can dress provocatively and walk home alone at night, or that you can surround yourself with crazy people and not expect crazy things to go down... It's not realistic. People need to be taught the reality of the world so they make decisions accordingly.click to expand
Posted by malloryorThat was incredibly helpful actually. I really hope she does because she's a really nice girl who has been traveling down a destructive path (in many ways) for a long time. I've actually always taken up for this girl even against her sister my Leo, many times. And like I said earlier I was more interested in getting to the root cause and going from there. No victim blaming or criticism from mePosted by PancakeFaceI can see that you did probably mean well and I am sure her family would agree, her life style choices need to change but unfortunately, rape and sexual assualt thay can turn an already emotionally weak person weaker, just like it can turn a strong person weak. Sexual assualta are absolutely devasting, so this girl will need more support than ever and less criticism about how her life choices and environment are creating this discourse and disharmony. She will need to figure that bit on her own.Posted by malloryorBelieve it or not it was actually coming from a place of concern. It just wasn't very tactful the way I said it. But yeah I agree with what you said.Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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Has ever been placed on this girl. I wouldn't do that to her. And yeah I truly hope she does figure it out on her own by herself.
Posted by starwarsRight. Her male best friend.....not some random crack addict.Posted by Expliciti do get that, but it was her "bestfriend"...so she obviously didnt see it coming...and from the OP prespective, they are all bad people, bc they adapt a different life style than his but from the girl' prespective they are her peers..so she wouldnt havr see it coming. HE WOULD cause from his perspective they are bad.Posted by Cancan26Posted by PancakeFacePosted by Cancan26I did state all of that in my post.Posted by PancakeFaceit doesn't matter her past, the company she keeps, or what she was doing...NO ONE has the RIGHT to some one else body ...and I understand why leo is upset ...its her sister and of course will be protective over herPosted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
you did but in your answer to dmv ...you said you were simply looking at it from a different perspective that she put herself in a dangerous situation and that you weren't surprised that this happened to her ..
I was simply pointing out to you ....that you shouldn't be looking at it from a different perspective b/c it didn't matter what the girl did... the dude shouldn't have raped her ....it doesn't make you a bad person just an insensitive one
Expecting the dude who is clearly a bad person to not rape her is like expecting a lion not to kill it's prey. It doesn't work like that in the real world. The real world is not fair. That's why we as people need to stop putting ourselves in dangerous situations. Let me go walk into a serial killers house and expect not to get killed. lol. It's so unrealistic.
also, hes her freaking boyfriend not judge judy. his leo was obviously looking for support not for him to break the case down and point how this was expected.click to expand
Posted by SagiScorpWho labeled him a bad person?Posted by malloryorI admit, it would have been wise for OP to keep his lack of surprise low-key, until his gf decided to bring up that topic on her own when she was ready (if ever). I bet he regrets bringing it up now, oh well. I still don't like how he's being labelled as a bad person though.Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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Posted by ExplicitI agree. By just going around and getting mad at people and saying they are victim blaming what does that accomplish? Yes she didn't deserve it even if she was walking around naked. But the point here is that there should be a certain amount of personal responsibility, to ensure your own safety. And that you should look at all elements of a situation. If a person was eating themselves to death and then died would you get mad at someone saying well hell they shoulda put down the McDonald's? Or would you say they are victim blaming. If that person suffered a heart attack and was told not to eat any more fast food would that be victim blaming?Posted by Cancan26
@Explicit
that was the whole point of my post .... his comment was insensitive we all AGREE.. even op himself ....but I, dmv and couple other users were simply explaining WHY it was insensitive...you trying to explain the logical behind it doesn't matter cause agree that he should have kept the comment to his self ...and yes I understand how the world works but in 2016 people shouldn't be finding a way to blame the victim ....we as a society need to change our thinking
By pointing out logic and the obvious, no one is blaming the victim. The victim didn't commit the crime onto herself. And it would be catastrophic and dangerous if society changed their thinking. I don't want parents telling their kids that this is a safe world, and that you can walk around late at night in bad neighborhoods, that females can dress provocatively and walk home alone at night, or that you can surround yourself with crazy people and not expect crazy things to go down... It's not realistic. People need to be taught the reality of the world so they make decisions accordingly.click to expand
Posted by DMVStubborn, absolutelyPosted by SagiScorpWho labeled him a bad person?Posted by malloryorI admit, it would have been wise for OP to keep his lack of surprise low-key, until his gf decided to bring up that topic on her own when she was ready (if ever). I bet he regrets bringing it up now, oh well. I still don't like how he's being labelled as a bad person though.Posted by SagiScorpExactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.Posted by PancakeFaceYou're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.Posted by DMVI really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?
So you blamed the victim?
A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.
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When you go out, fair Leos, do you have your staple drink(s) that people know by heart? Something classy? Sassy? Simple? What is your go-go, can't say no-no to juice?? I'm a vodka tonic with two limes forever. Or a nice, dry Cabernet, if I gotta be fan
I'm a Sagittarius 19, ascendant is Aquarius, my moon sign is Scorpio. My dad is a leo. We never get a long hes such an a chEAP abusive control freak, he controls the way we dress, we eat... etc UGH im so done with him im not here to ask for an advice t
Is depression really taken over by Leo characteristics? I'm Leo I used to be a Leo now I'm not. I don't know what I am anymore. I was born on August 14th 1980 I used to be such an outgoing person but not anymore I used to be so happy upbeat center of atte
Do leos play favorites ? Like can one person be more important to them than the other , friend wise ? Family is a big yes but friend wise can one friend be more important than the other ? Cause I've been feeling kind of replaced and I shouldn't be because
I offended my Leo earlier. She told me about a week back that her sister had been raped by her male best friend. Her sister however hangs out with trash 247, druggies, junkies, rapists, you name it. She parties 247, drinks heavily is promiscuous. Now I'm giving this back info because I'm
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It is disgusting what happened to her and a lot of men can act way too entitled I don't agree with what happened at all. If anyone feels violated like that then it's wrong. It doesn't matter what she was doing nobody should end up feeling violated.
However I pissed off my Leo by saying that I wasn't surprised t happened considering the friends she keeps and situations she gets into. My Leo then proceeded to say so you think she deserved it or something like that. Which is not what I think at all. Does anyone have some good advice on this horrible topic?
I don't wanna sound like a douchebag at all. I wanna fix this.