Touchy subject! I offended my Leo (Page 2)

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So you blamed the victim?

I really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?

You're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.

A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.

Exactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.

I admit, it would have been wise for OP to keep his lack of surprise low-key, until his gf decided to bring up that topic on her own when she was ready (if ever). I bet he regrets bringing it up now, oh well. I still don't like how he's being labelled as a bad person though.

Who labeled him a bad person?

Stubborn, absolutely

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So are you fellow Scorpio moon, you've been chasing me all over this thread making your thoughts very well known lmao.

I think weve gone off course. The issue is, the leo was offended. Doesnt matter what home girl did or didnt do.

The only thing that matters is how the leo feels. We dont sleep with the op. We cant provide validation on his intentions.



Intentions mean squat.

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Posted by DMV
So you blamed the victim?

I really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?

You're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.

A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.

Exactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.

I admit, it would have been wise for OP to keep his lack of surprise low-key, until his gf decided to bring up that topic on her own when she was ready (if ever). I bet he regrets bringing it up now, oh well. I still don't like how he's being labelled as a bad person though.

Who labeled him a bad person?

Stubborn, absolutely

So are you fellow Scorpio moon, you've been chasing me all over this thread making your thoughts very well known lmao.

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Yes. As one scorp moon to another, swallow your pride and accept that you messed up.

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Posted by DMV
So you blamed the victim?

I really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?

You're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.

A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.

Exactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.

I admit, it would have been wise for OP to keep his lack of surprise low-key, until his gf decided to bring up that topic on her own when she was ready (if ever). I bet he regrets bringing it up now, oh well. I still don't like how he's being labelled as a bad person though.

Who labeled him a bad person?

Stubborn, absolutely

So are you fellow Scorpio moon, you've been chasing me all over this thread making your thoughts very well known lmao.

Yes. As one scorp moon to another, swallow your pride and accept that you messed up.

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I think you need to chill.

But the difference between my scorp moon and yours is that i know how to be tactful.

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@Explicit

that was the whole point of my post .... his comment was insensitive we all AGREE.. even op himself ....but I, dmv and couple other users were simply explaining WHY it was insensitive...you trying to explain the logical behind it doesn't matter cause agree that he should have kept the comment to his self ...and yes I understand how the world works but in 2016 people shouldn't be finding a way to blame the victim ....we as a society need to change our thinking

By pointing out logic and the obvious, no one is blaming the victim. The victim didn't commit the crime onto herself. And it would be catastrophic and dangerous if society changed their thinking. I don't want parents telling their kids that this is a safe world, and that you can walk around late at night in bad neighborhoods, that females can dress provocatively and walk home alone at night, or that you can surround yourself with crazy people and not expect crazy things to go down... It's not realistic. People need to be taught the reality of the world so they make decisions accordingly.

yes it is realistic... you tell your son that it doesn't matter what girl is wearing that doesn't give you permission to have sex with her ...you teach your son that if she is drunk and can't consent.... and you have sex with her anyway ...you can and will GO TO JAIL...that you don't attack people and expect to be excused for it ....and then everyone (lawmakers, judges and society) needs to HOLD them to these values ....

I agree with everything except "if she's drunk she can't give consent." If I'm drunk and I kick somebody's ass, does that mean I can win my court case because I can say "well, I was drunk so..."

If she's drunk and she's like, "yes, I wanna have sex" and then she regrets it the next morning then that's on her. Don't get too drunk to the point where you cannot make mature chooses. And especially don't go screaming "RAPE" if you consented to it just because you were drunk. Take responsibility.

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there is a BIG difference (at least to me) than a girl having a drunken hookup and being embarrassed the next morning---this isn't rape if you gave consent ....vs someone literally having to carry a girl back to the room cause she so drunk she can't stand up...or she isn't coherent

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Posted by DMV
So you blamed the victim?

I really don't understand why people just leap to that conclusion. I try and look at things from all aspects which seems to be making me a bad person in other people's eyes. Okay?

You're not a bad person for not being surprised she was raped. You're not blaming her either. You're just simply not surprised. There's a difference between the two. This is a very touchy subject however, and you're talking about it on a site that is probably dominated by women, so expect a lot of shaming for not being surprised.

A friend of mine was murdered because he went into a bad area. I wasn't surprised. Does that mean I blame him? No. I'm just not surprised it happened, that's it. My aqua friend isn't surprised either.

Exactly. OP it is fine that you arent surprised by highlighting her life style choices rather than focusing on the present, more prominent issue at that moment, which was your gf revealing her sister had been raped is the problem.

I admit, it would have been wise for OP to keep his lack of surprise low-key, until his gf decided to bring up that topic on her own when she was ready (if ever). I bet he regrets bringing it up now, oh well. I still don't like how he's being labelled as a bad person though.

Who labeled him a bad person?

Stubborn, absolutely

So are you fellow Scorpio moon, you've been chasing me all over this thread making your thoughts very well known lmao.

Yes. As one scorp moon to another, swallow your pride and accept that you messed up.

I think you need to chill.

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Chill with what?

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Posted by Cancan26
@Explicit

that was the whole point of my post .... his comment was insensitive we all AGREE.. even op himself ....but I, dmv and couple other users were simply explaining WHY it was insensitive...you trying to explain the logical behind it doesn't matter cause agree that he should have kept the comment to his self ...and yes I understand how the world works but in 2016 people shouldn't be finding a way to blame the victim ....we as a society need to change our thinking

By pointing out logic and the obvious, no one is blaming the victim. The victim didn't commit the crime onto herself. And it would be catastrophic and dangerous if society changed their thinking. I don't want parents telling their kids that this is a safe world, and that you can walk around late at night in bad neighborhoods, that females can dress provocatively and walk home alone at night, or that you can surround yourself with crazy people and not expect crazy things to go down... It's not realistic. People need to be taught the reality of the world so they make decisions accordingly.

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Your really misinformed about rape. It is rarely a case of a girl in a short skirt walking to her car that is preyed on.

1 in 3 women will be raped in their lifetime. 80% of rape victims KNOW their rapist prior to the crime, as evidenced by this example... The girlfriends sister was raped by her best friend, someone she trusted who BETRAYED that trust and forced himself on her.

The Op needs to shut his mouth and offer support, nothing more nothing less. It is not his place to judge the victim who was violated and will probably not see justice done to this sick fuck, she will spend years perhaps even her life with the scars from this.

Posted by PancakeFace
I wanna fix this.

You can't .

If your honest opinion upsets your Leo, then you're just gonna have to accept that she gets upset.

You can try not expressing your opinion in the future, but that would suck for you.

Posted by Plagued
Nowhere did I see you putting the expectation on the sister for foreseeing these circumstances. You simply said you weren't surprised that a situation like this would occur. I would have expected the same thing, her fault or not which is not what you implied at all (being her fault) lmao. Drunkards and druggies oh my

Some of these females on here get too overly sensitive.

Saying you aren't surprised about the actions of company she keeps does not equate to = it's your fault. Simply means she got shit friends and it became apparent to her (unfortunately via rape) when it was already apparent to you.

*as for commenting on her company judging? No its observation. If your sister played with heroin addicts and you said poor company to keep would you be judging her? More like them

Yeah that's exactly how I saw it. Thanks.

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Nowhere did I see you putting the expectation on the sister for foreseeing these circumstances. You simply said you weren't surprised that a situation like this would occur. I would have expected the same thing, her fault or not which is not what you implied at all (being her fault) lmao. Drunkards and druggies oh my

Some of these females on here get too overly sensitive.

Saying you aren't surprised about the actions of company she keeps does not equate to = it's your fault. Simply means she got shit friends and it became apparent to her (unfortunately via rape) when it was already apparent to you.

*as for commenting on her company judging? No its observation. If your sister played with heroin addicts and you said poor company to keep would you be judging her? More like them

Took the words right out of my mouth. Well said.

I suppose you wanted to give constructive Feedback? The thing is this is a very touchy subject, you need to choose your words very careful, and see if your leo is even open to feedback especially if you consider the fact that this is not a totally new issue (you discussed her problems before) . This is a very emotional subject, for every brother and sister I guess, and many are ready to rip your head off in a second if they have the smallest slightest feeling that your a re going to say something bad about her sister

Empathy and emotional support is more important at first, because this is traumatic for the sister too.

By the way did you apologize yet and how did she react?

As a LEO we protect others and when we grieve, need someone who can tell us the right thing when we need to hear it--otherwise we get upset.

But the RIGHT thing to do in this post as a LEO would to not be to insult someone who is looking to correct their mistake. So I will tell you nicely and respectfully that she just needs to know that you didn't mean it that way and show your her your point of view nicely. Leos don't stay mad forever.

Compliment her and tell her she's the most understanding individual you ever met and that whatever she needs, she can count on you!

Good Luck 🙂

You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

Posted by Sssupes
You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

You're a

Dumbass. I think that every single

Time I see you post something lmao.!

but hey you like trump so it's to be expected.

Posted by Redoctober2000
You do have a point in what you are saying OP. If her sister kept better "company/associations" she may not have ended up in that situation. She was more than likely raped by one of the very same Associates she hangs out with.

Yup that is what happened.

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Posted by Sssupes
You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

The OP was not blaming the victim but merely making a point.

The point being that if the OP's gf sister drank less, was more choosy about the associations and the people she hung out with this could have been avoided... Simple.

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What in the actual fuck! She should be able to be passed out drunk in the middle of the street and not have to worry about getting raped! Holy hell you have a seriously messed up way of thinking!

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Posted by Sssupes
You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

You're a

Dumbass. I think that every single

Time I see you post something lmao.!

but hey you like trump so it's to be expected.

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Suck a fat cock

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Posted by Redoctober2000

Posted by Sssupes
You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

The OP was not blaming the victim but merely making a point.

The point being that if the OP's gf sister drank less, was more choosy about the associations and the people she hung out with this could have been avoided... Simple.

What in the actual fuck! She should be able to be passed out drunk in the middle of the street and not have to worry about getting raped! Holy hell you have a seriously messed up way of thinking!

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Nah you just don't pay attention. You jumped in on a topic randomly. But there was a previous discussion addressing all these topics. Where I clearly stated pretty much the same thing. Fool. Lol

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Posted by Sssupes
You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

The OP was not blaming the victim but merely making a point.

The point being that if the OP's gf sister drank less, was more choosy about the associations and the people she hung out with this could have been avoided... Simple.

What in the actual fuck! She should be able to be passed out drunk in the middle of the street and not have to worry about getting raped! Holy hell you have a seriously messed up way of thinking!

Nah you just don't pay attention. You jumped in on a topic randomly. But there was a previous discussion addressing all these topics. Where I clearly stated pretty much the same thing. Fool. Lol

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It's August. You are not worthy to talk to me till the 23rd.

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Posted by Redoctober2000

Posted by Sssupes
You should be lucky that lioness didn't whip your Ass. Who the hell blames the victim?

The OP was not blaming the victim but merely making a point.

The point being that if the OP's gf sister drank less, was more choosy about the associations and the people she hung out with this could have been avoided... Simple.

What in the actual fuck! She should be able to be passed out drunk in the middle of the street and not have to worry about getting raped! Holy hell you have a seriously messed up way of thinking!

Nah you just don't pay attention. You jumped in on a topic randomly. But there was a previous discussion addressing all these topics. Where I clearly stated pretty much the same thing. Fool. Lol

It's August. You are not worthy to talk to me till the 23rd.

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Calm down superman. Take it easy bro.