taking some time vs. brush off (Page 2)

Maygirl

Your brother probably has a lot of Virgo in him. He's pretty cuspy. His head will work as follows. The virgo inside him: I'll have exactly that colour blue on my wall, exactly that one and no other one. Two minutes later, his libra side says: am not so sure now... And he goes back & forth with this all the time. Exactly knowing vs doubting...

Your 21/10 is scorpio cuspy, and scorps are very different from virgos. Wear their heart on their sleeve - they'll speak up if they don't like something. Are very funny, outspoken...Virgo is highly reserved. Does not take centre stage whereas Scorps do.

3/10 must be a sweety...

is a 10/10 a sweety?

or a punk?

Am I a sweety?

ooooooooooooooo that's right


DUH

My 10/3 guy is a sweetheart. He's always fun to be around and we seem to click on everything. Although we did have a bit of a physical relationship awhile back, it never seemed too serious. It was always fun, and he always made me feel special. We tease each other about it every now and then, but I know there would never be anything serious with him. And I'm fine when we don't talk for months on end, cuz when we do get in touch again, it's always like we never left.

Now this 10/21 Libra tugs at my heart everytime I think of him. We had a relationship years ago and connected with each other three or four times after that but then we both went our separate ways. I always thought about him. Then the opportunity came this year to get back in touch with him, which I did. He seemed very happy that I did and we immediately seemed to pick up from where we left off years ago (but a little different, seeing as we are both older; we both seem more confident and sure of what we want, I think). Things seemed to be going well, until this last time we were together (two weeks ago). Now, I'm not sure what he's thinking (then again, do we ever know what Libras are thinking?). But I know I don't want to let it drift away.

Someone (maybe you Libra) said that when Libras make an emotional connection, they have a hard time leaving that person and, eventually, will be back. I know we've made an emotional connection. I think he's just worried about somebody getting hurt in this. Waiting is frustrating, though. I want to just jump into things. I am a do things on a whim person, not a sit back and let them happen.

Aaaggghh!

How easy is it to 'accidentally run' into the scorpio cuspy one?

Maygirl

Libra does not think in real terms. Does not come to conclusions based on real facts. We create a 'truth' that suits. Hence the positive future attacks...

In terms of having an opinion, we don't have one. We do the above.

We either want you or we don't, but it is not based on real facts.

Arrggg, don't know if it makes any sense!!!

Let me know if I should explain further...

I would like that further defined, Libra. They either want you or don't....When I emailed my best friend that the Libra called me today, she said that he is showing he cares, but I'm just not quite convinced. But the retreating makes sense...just expected him to hide longer than he did.

Libra,

Actually, I probably can arrange to "accidentally" run into him. We live near each other and sometimes (if I plan the lights right) I see him driving home from work and a few times we've run into each other walking our dogs.

Also, he's supposed to be working on a project for me (which is how I got back in touch with him originally). We have talked about the project all summer, but I needed to arrange things first. I finally did in November, but then he was busy with some other jobs and said it may be a few weeks before he can get to it. So the project is still in the works and at some point we will need to get together about that.

I'm thinking of waiting another week and then calling just to say I'll be out of town for a week so I wanted to make sure he knew in case he was ready to start on the project, and then also wish him a happy holiday. Just a simple message; nothing forward or emotional.

What do you think?

We don't really retreat, not with love issues. We only retreat from people that do not matter on the reason why we retreat. The low-risk ones.

The fact that he called is wonderful. Leaving astrology aside, you dumped him and he called you. That's not a bad place to be.

Bringing astrology and Libra back in: if I want out and I arranged it e.g. I let the other half dump me and I accept that AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED ALL ALONG - I would be a fool to feed it by calling. I just managed to hustle you into getting rid of me...surely I am not going to be making any phone calls.

That's basically waht my best friend is trying to tell me...if he was relieved that I did what I did and said what I said, why is he bothering to call me...

I think it's just because he wants to make sure I'm ok with all that I have going on right now.

Maygirl

All you need to do is create the opportunity and if he wants you he will do the rest and let you know. He may not jump at the first opportunity becuase he first needs to realise that you still like him.

Show him you like him but don't say it. He needs to build up the longing, that's where the courage comes from. So when you see him, don't be too obvious, just be subtle - then he can realise that you still care, do his thinking and then at a next - preferably face-to-face encounter - he can 'make a move'.

Personally, I like a bit of help from the other one - am reserved but I will put myself outthere. I look for clues and give BIG clues too, so you can jump in if you so wish to do so. Then again, between the two of you, he's the man and so - he has that role to play...

Show him you like him but don't say it.

Oopps.

okay, going to sit tight for a few days (no emotional calls), but will try to set up a casual "oh-my-gosh, it's so funny running into you" encounter. If that doesn't happen, then maybe next week I'll just give a quick call to say something like "saw something that reminded me of you and just wanted to say hey" or "just wanted to let you know I'll be out of town but have a nice Christmas, and hopefully we can work on that project after the first of the year."

Gotta sign off now, but I'll check back later.

Keep the info flowing!

Libra..."We are highly idealistic and that moment is our wildest dream come true"

I do believe this to be true. You are good!!

I am tired of trying to compete with what is in his mind. I would have no clue of this without you psycho-analyzing it for me. I will just have to let this one play itself out. He is never alone, this is one of my issues and because we are friends he knows he can always depend on me to listen to him when he is happy or depressed about a chic. He is always at one extreme. I told him he claims to hate drama but is attracted to it, he said, we don't have drama, and I said, EXACTLY!! Lately I have noticed him not talking so much about other females, nevertheless, I am tired. They can be exhausting.

His b-day is 9/25. He sounds a lot like Maygirls brother...

HP

You cannot tell him you like him until he's told you he likes you. That's a crucial one... When did you tell him e.g. recently? And what did he say or do?

today.

he told me he really liked me about 2 weeks in. I told him for the first time about a week ago.

Maygirl.
....just wanted to let you know I'll be out of town but have a nice Christmas, and hopefully we can work on that project after the first of the year."

Good going! Work with a plan. It's smarter to do it that way. Then you're not caught off guard.

Brat

It's the moment we re-live but that does not mean we care about the person. That moment is about him and being desired, is not about her...

His statement is very true: I hate drama too when others do it but I am allowed to enjoy the odd moment.

Is he in love with you? Are you exclusive? (sorry, my head's spinning)

HP74..

You know your Libra likes you, he has shown you in so many ways, but his timing does not seem to be your timing. Can you control your emotions enough to play things by his rules instead of yours? I know we fall hard, bc they are such great guys and it is really really hard, but I think it would be worth it to just chill for a while until he gets his throughts together. It is kind of like you have to change your whole approach to him and let him come to you in his time. I am sure he will come to his senses sooner or later. It is the later that kills...

"just wanted to let you know"

That's the hint he'll see in it...

Last night my LIbran told me "you are a nice person"...wow LOL!!! Actually I take it as a huge compliment....he's not big on them but loves receiving them! I went out with the other guy last night as promised (coz I just cant sit around waiting every single night for Libra to make up his mind) and had a lovely time and somehow, do not ask me how, Mr Libran (must have a guydar) must have realised something from the last time we caught up that I would go with others, contacted me out of the blue and we chatted for hours!! Talk about a steamy conversation too!! Again though, he said "we will chat soon and other things" Does that mean Im in?? LOL.

Funnily enough both him and I were in town about 2 doors down last night (lots of pubs in the street)...I only know this as when we talked last night we both mentioned we drove through the same random breath testing station!!.....perhaps he saw me in town, Im not sure but I didn't do anything to jeapordize anything with him but maybe if he did see me, it may have opened his eyes up?? The last thing I want though, is to make him jealous - that is not my intention at all...just didnt want to sit day in day out waiting.

What do you all think?

I imagine you're right, Brat. He does like me. He would have let me fester and hurt more by not calling at all.

At the end of the conversation today, he said "we will talk about it all tonight because I don't want you to think I don't care".

I just don't know if that was his charm or sincerity. He's promised in the past to call, but didn't, so I'm not holding my breath...

Oh and he asked "what does my little one want for Xmas"....awwwwww!!!! I just said "I don't think what I want will fit in santa's sack"....let him think that one over 🙂

Chatz, Libras arent' easily jealous. I don't think it would ahve phased him.

heehee...i like that response, chatz!

Libra...
We are best friends and have been for 6 years. He was in a relationship when I met him for 4 of the 6 years, then I got married and was married (divorcing) for the last 3... now we have both been without a serious relationship for the past 6 months and have been like magnets ever since. He met this chic 2 weeks before I left my ex. He says they are just friends and he is just seeing how things go, but they are having sex. We have never even kissed but flirt a lot and he told me he loved me first about 5-years ago. Ever since we say ILY all the time. Most of the time he initiates it. But I am IN LOVE with him.

He does not live in the same state so it is really hard. He is about 3 hours away. We met through working for the same company 6 years ago, I had to go up there for weeks at a time and we bonded and spoke everyday for about 2-years after that. I called him (that is how I know Libra's don't care much about calling) and we would talk for at least 5-6 hours a day, then I got married and we would email here and there but nothing serious. However, every time he had problems, he would email or call me (at work) and every time I had problems I did the same. He said it was our way of saying, no matter what we were not going to let the other out of our world. He always says to me how sensitive he is? and he is! We are both introverted, but when we get together you cannot tell, we tell each other everything. He can pull anything out of me? and he knows it. Once he told me he felt I was unreachable. I asked him why he felt that way and he said ?I don't know?. Which is what I always get from him, when we start getting deep into a conversation about us? We can talk for hours about him and this chic, but when we talk about us, which he ALWAYS initiates its about 5 minutes and we both get uncomfortable? I don't know?

Libra ..

The other chic is bringing bad drama to him (crazy ex threatening my libra) and I am worried about him, her ex won't let her go and basically I think she is playing them both, but he can't see it. He will tell her to leave him alone, then she will call leaving ILY on his phone, crying, etc... and he is right back. I know this can not last forever, I can tell he wants out. But it almost seems like he is too far into it to let go and they are having sex.

That is why I told him he likes drama. He said "No I don't, we don't have drama" and I said "Exactly".

hP74
"I just don't know if that was his charm or sincerity. He's promised in the past to call, but didn't, so I'm not holding my breath..."

Don't you hate it when you are having a good conversation and want to continue it later... they say they will call and DON'T. Yeh.. I hate that too.

I never thought of it just being their charm... hhmmmm.. interesting..

thanks HP...I think he liked the comment too - assuming he read in between the lines correctly 🙂 and thank God they don't get jealous - I had NO idea he'd be in town last night - how freaky is that? He didnt seem jealous - perhaps he didnt see me afterall and again, I did nothing to jeopardize anything with him 🙂....it was so good to get out though and for once in the past few weeks it hasn't been stifling hot.......summer has come with avengeance here 😢 we need water!!!

where are you CHatz?

Chatz/HP74..

They are not easily jealous?? If I mention another guy my libra perks up and starts contradicting everything.. and I mean everything I say about the guy. If I say he is a millionaire he will say..its probably drug money. If I say he plays professional ball he will say, you know they sleep around and you don't like that, if I say he loves me, he will say, yeah for now... ALWAYS. So I rarely talk to him about guys, not that I have any to talk about anyway. But when I do, he definitely pays attention.

Maybe they are not jealous, but if you need something to get his attention, another guy will do it.

Hmm, complicated story you've got there, Bratgirl...

"Once he told me he felt I was unreachable. I asked him why he felt that way and he said ?I don't know?."]

These 'I don't knows' involve feelings and that is not easy, especially perhaps when we don't know exactly what we feel - we cannot lie or bullsh!t. The whole thing is overshadowed by the chic and her issues, no doubt. He gets attention from her and that feeds his ego/feeling good.

Unreachable - perhaps that you are not picking up any hints. He cannot be direct - not his nature. So, he'll make a half complaint/half compliment.

Exactly!!! It's like 50 here.

We are jealous but only when we are unsure of your feelings for us. Otherwise not jealous...

ok, I think this Libra is scheming. I have two yahoo login names, only one he knows about and I placed bait and he took the bait. Things are back to him being the player. oh well...we'll see if he keeps at this game. I need to go shopping.

Libra...
"Unreachable - perhaps that you are not picking up any hints. He cannot be direct - not his nature. So, he'll make a half complaint/half compliment."

Sounds like you know him well..

This chic is giving him much attention but I don't think it can last, none of his other relationships have, so I guess I have pretty good odds this one won't either. I am just hoping these feelings will go away soon I have for him, because the more I speak/think/eat/drink him, I get more and more miserable. Another guy will not help, I've already tried that one. Got married and thought about him everyday. He does not know this though.

*wheels are spinning*

What a nasty web he might be weaving if it turns out he has played me this whole time and continues to play me by messing with my feelings.

I must begin my trick questions....I'll chat with him just long enough to make him interested in calling "me" and when he askes if he can call, I'll say "Absolutely. my number is" and give him my #!

I can't remember who it was that said Taurus women can be conniving and underhanded when we've been wronged...but here's proof to back it up...

*off to put my plan in motion*

HP74..

What do you mean?? Has he been playing?

Brat, why not make it very obvious. You'd be a perfect match: Aqua/libra...

What is stopping you?

Brat, I have two yahoo names. He only knows of one. Today before he called me, I sent him a message on the other name he doesn't know about pretending to have chatted with him a while back. He took the bait about an hour ago. He asked what part of town I lived in and said hi.

so I replied to him asking him if he was seeing anyone or had he been seeing anyone recently because I acted like I was trying to remember who he was. He's offline now, but i followed up that message with "I'll be home around 8 pm if you want to chat more"

The messee becomes the messer.....

HP

Don't let it come out that it's you.

Don't forget he has just been dumped and perhaps vulnerable...

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My first set-up question, which I'll be anxiously awaiting for him to answer:

"I think you said you were seeing someone the last time we chatted. Is that still case? Do I have competition? 🙂"

That one is waiting for him in the offline messages

No, Libra, I don't see it that way. If he felt he'd been dumped, he wouldn't have called me back so soon. Remember, I've had my doubts that I wasn't the only one in the picture for a while.

He won't know right away it's me.

But I'll gather enough info from him to make him realize that I'm onto him and then say "hey call me. here's my number"