LisaLeo
@LisaLeo
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^^Lisa Leo I think you're almost spot on in that!
When I observe Aries, I see the stronger Aries type as those who don't date Libras. Those who fall for Libras tend to be very childish - they are regressing towards a childhood thing - attention and old patterns that are not progressive.
Libra-Scorpio, SPOT ON TOO! Very much mother-child. Scorpio is very much the mother/father to Libra.
Both feel safe yet restricted at the same time.
Wow, how did you get that?
This was what I orignally meant regarding tripping each other up.. I dont know why Valeria chose to pick on my language use. I felt that I was being objective in my first post. The rest were based on illustrations of observations.
One other point re: Aries-Libra - based off sexual attraction alone, or first and foremost. Of course, the attraction is very immediate, but they usually think it meas compatibility - it doesn't..
IMO, Mars signs do very well with other Mars signs, or Plutonians signs. Because they're so similar...
Venus and Mars are a sexual dynamic, but a prospering one, I am really not so sure....
Sure, you may see couples who refuse to break up who are Aries-Libra but they will grate on each other because they are just so different. Usually an epiphany will tell them that...
When I observe Aries, I see the stronger Aries type as those who don't date Libras. Those who fall for Libras tend to be very childish - they are regressing towards a childhood thing - attention and old patterns that are not progressive.
Libra-Scorpio, SPOT ON TOO! Very much mother-child. Scorpio is very much the mother/father to Libra.
Both feel safe yet restricted at the same time.
Wow, how did you get that?
This was what I orignally meant regarding tripping each other up.. I dont know why Valeria chose to pick on my language use. I felt that I was being objective in my first post. The rest were based on illustrations of observations.
One other point re: Aries-Libra - based off sexual attraction alone, or first and foremost. Of course, the attraction is very immediate, but they usually think it meas compatibility - it doesn't..
IMO, Mars signs do very well with other Mars signs, or Plutonians signs. Because they're so similar...
Venus and Mars are a sexual dynamic, but a prospering one, I am really not so sure....
Sure, you may see couples who refuse to break up who are Aries-Libra but they will grate on each other because they are just so different. Usually an epiphany will tell them that...
Spica this is my new theory; you know, they say Leos advance to self awareness through tremendous amounts of pain. right on, for about a year I've turned myself inside out, took up astrology, etc, to understand the Libra I was in love with (the one married to an Aries). Im not bitter he chose her, Im detached and trying to see how things are.
Leos rules are different than yours. check out the mechanism: getting to close to Libra, you know how Libra mirrors back faults/defects. Well, the Leo reacts (violent emotions?) seeing himself in the new light, Libra figures out Leo has lots of work to do on himself, not sure if Leo's gonna make it (too much effort), so Libra moves on. Leo remains behind and suffers. Now, 95% of the cases the Leo moves on without learning his/her lesson: the ego, the fear, time, etc, don't allow it; so Leo carries the wound with him/her.
This is another paradox: you'll find maybe 2% of the compatibility reports to say the truth: that Leo - Libra DON'T match. The rest is all bs about how Leos like the spotlight and luxury and Libras the same blah blah blah.
Leos rules are different than yours. check out the mechanism: getting to close to Libra, you know how Libra mirrors back faults/defects. Well, the Leo reacts (violent emotions?) seeing himself in the new light, Libra figures out Leo has lots of work to do on himself, not sure if Leo's gonna make it (too much effort), so Libra moves on. Leo remains behind and suffers. Now, 95% of the cases the Leo moves on without learning his/her lesson: the ego, the fear, time, etc, don't allow it; so Leo carries the wound with him/her.
This is another paradox: you'll find maybe 2% of the compatibility reports to say the truth: that Leo - Libra DON'T match. The rest is all bs about how Leos like the spotlight and luxury and Libras the same blah blah blah.
@ Valeria
how does one see the unevolved? well, the reactions first, its in the behaviour, the fear of seeing one's shadow, the fear we took the wrong life decision while others took the right one, the inability to draw conclusions, to change, the inconsistency in actions, dunno.
how does one see the unevolved? well, the reactions first, its in the behaviour, the fear of seeing one's shadow, the fear we took the wrong life decision while others took the right one, the inability to draw conclusions, to change, the inconsistency in actions, dunno.
Posted by LisaLeo
Spica this is my new theory; you know, they say Leos advance to self awareness through tremendous amounts of pain. right on, for about a year I've turned myself inside out, took up astrology, etc, to understand the Libra I was in love with (the one married to an Aries). Im not bitter he chose her, Im detached and trying to see how things are.
Leos rules are different than yours. check out the mechanism: getting to close to Libra, you know how Libra mirrors back faults/defects. Well, the Leo reacts (violent emotions?) seeing himself in the new light, Libra figures out Leo has lots of work to do on himself, not sure if Leo's gonna make it (too much effort), so Libra moves on. Leo remains behind and suffers. Now, 95% of the cases the Leo moves on without learning his/her lesson: the ego, the fear, time, etc, don't allow it; so Leo carries the wound with him/her.
This is another paradox: you'll find maybe 2% of the compatibility reports to say the truth: that Leo - Libra DON'T match. The rest is all bs about how Leos like the spotlight and luxury and Libras the same blah blah blah.
LisaLeo I actually feel your pain. Yes you were very close to unearthing something when you said that.. I am not sure how true those are but they're pretty accurate.
Tbh I cannot comment on Leo-Libra relationship because I have very little experience in the area.. I only know on friendships. I know what you mean by moving on without healing the hurt; I think this happens with relationships that are bad in the beginning. Its like an epidemic. How I wish everyone found or could have good relationships their first time. Its like they're hurt and then they go infect the next partner and so on.
Generated reports/ compatibility are usually general and inaccurate.. because a writer can usually only have the depth of his/her sign, their opposite, or someone they're close to. The rest are pretty much based on books and interviews..
Leos may match with libras, but its best to take it as a no until the libra confirms it.. because leo tends to give and give until they get depleted. And libra style is to go away. the more you press the more they go away.. pretty paradoxical.
Relationships are difficult. Relationships with the venus archetype are dificult because they are elusive. They dont like being controlled, but appreciated, yes. No knives or fighting or anything. Tha
Thats why I ruled aries out (because they stand for battles).
But you shouldnt hope for that Libra coming your way, because first and foremost he's attached... even if he would go to you the wife thing must be resolved first. Pretty complicated.
But you shouldnt hope for that Libra coming your way, because first and foremost he's attached... even if he would go to you the wife thing must be resolved first. Pretty complicated.
oh THAT Libra situation is dealt with. Libra or no Libra, the guy is not available. He IS emotionally available and for a while I was pretty outraged to see him try out different girls and then run back into the marriage and duck for cover under the Aries momma skirts when things would go wrong. Then I thought, this is his harsh reality just the way us Leos have our own. He'll overcome it eventually.
Still, now its become a learning thing, thats why I remained on DXP. Plus I like Libras. plus I have a Libra moon, maybe thats why Im so attracted to you guys 🙂
Still, now its become a learning thing, thats why I remained on DXP. Plus I like Libras. plus I have a Libra moon, maybe thats why Im so attracted to you guys 🙂
Posted by LisaLeo
oh THAT Libra situation is dealt with. Libra or no Libra, the guy is not available. He IS emotionally available and for a while I was pretty outraged to see him try out different girls and then run back into the marriage and duck for cover under the Aries momma skirts when things would go wrong. Then I thought, this is his harsh reality just the way us Leos have our own. He'll overcome it eventually.
Still, now its become a learning thing, thats why I remained on DXP. Plus I like Libras. plus I have a Libra moon, maybe thats why Im so attracted to you guys 🙂
Does Aries become the momma?
The Libra moon makes you tend to be a bit libra-ish in your expression, love of peace and beauty. I adore Leos 'cos they're all heart.
@Valeria
I think I have solved sommat of your puzzle.
You come into my thread and try to control my thoughts on Aries, revealing your extremely control freakish nature.
And then you say its because of my bad experience with Aries and I shouldnt label them all the same?
BUT I realised your hostility towards us Libras is based on YOUR OWN bad experience with your Libra mother.
No wonder, I was wondering why you acted SO BIASED, SO WEIRD. Tried to talk 13 pages of crap with me.
So, YOU, my dear, cannot seperate your experience from your mum and are taking it out on Libra...?
HAHAHAHA I think it's okay, except you DENY it and say you are unbiased towards everyone..
DUDE, I can take being experimented upon, but you lied and twisted your words.. I think YOU are on a dark path but you don't realize it.
No wonder you support Aries... the real answer is that you resent your mum.
So stop the pretense that you're unbound by the mortal biasness
and I hope you can be more honest with the things you say.
I think I have solved sommat of your puzzle.
You come into my thread and try to control my thoughts on Aries, revealing your extremely control freakish nature.
And then you say its because of my bad experience with Aries and I shouldnt label them all the same?
BUT I realised your hostility towards us Libras is based on YOUR OWN bad experience with your Libra mother.
No wonder, I was wondering why you acted SO BIASED, SO WEIRD. Tried to talk 13 pages of crap with me.
So, YOU, my dear, cannot seperate your experience from your mum and are taking it out on Libra...?
HAHAHAHA I think it's okay, except you DENY it and say you are unbiased towards everyone..
DUDE, I can take being experimented upon, but you lied and twisted your words.. I think YOU are on a dark path but you don't realize it.
No wonder you support Aries... the real answer is that you resent your mum.
So stop the pretense that you're unbound by the mortal biasness
and I hope you can be more honest with the things you say.
I have no problems with you hatin' on your mum, and projecting her unto me.. but even though I sensed this, you said that it wasn't true. But now I know how true that is..
darn, you give psychopaths a run for their money.
darn, you give psychopaths a run for their money.
Posted by spica
Valeria, I think you didn't read the topic at all, as did most Aries. The topic here is DATING AN ARIES.
Stop putting your thoughts and opinions on what I am saying.
But you asked us to.......
IMO, this is the libra-aries dynamic IN A RELATIONSHIP. They're just different.
And in relationships, you get intimate and that's where the true manfestations of both come out.
Aries and Libra are in the most basic of senses incompatible in relationships. I wrote this here because it is my opinion, and you come right in to try to change it?
No you asked for others opinions of your opinions and like arseholes they are all different.
In no way did I personally attack aries, but they come in to personally attack me when I wrote my viewpoint on it?
That is up to the individual Aries if they determined your text as an attack, I thought it was just you writing what you felt at the moment and trying to rally some imput, but I am just one person.
And I would just like to repeat, this is my opinion, not based on personal attacks, but an objective one I have reconciled after many experiences with Arians. They are okay as friends (but not close friends, Libra!), but they arent good FOR LIBRAS IN RELATIONSHIPS.
Take it or leave it.click to expand
I understand your viewpoint even if I don't share it. My better friend connections are mostly Libras and Cancers. I have also dated a Libra not as my "plan b". I find the positive way the ones in my life come to solutions to be encouraging, making me feel at ease. I don't think any mature Libra has the issue with giving in, at least not the ones I have had experiences with in friendships and relationships. I have only met two out of thirty or so Libras that I completely had disdain for in my experiences, but this does not make your opinion less valid, it just makes ours different.
Posted by valeria25
When I was tiny (uh oh...here it comes again LOL).... I would ask my Libra/Taurus mother while she was bathing me in the bathtub, and I was thinking of presidents and how they get assassinated. And I asked them why are the good ones always getting killed? And because my barrage of questions flustered my mother and she was concentrating on my bathing me, she just told me in her wicked way that it's because they think way too much!!! I was SOOOO SCARED!! I tried to stop thinking!!! LOL Of course, it's quite wicked of her to say such a thing and she never told me until I looked it up. But I'm sure I kept my mother annoyed at SO many questions I needed to ask. My mind was ALways SO CURIOUS about life and everything. So I lived in my mind a lot.
Now I understand how Uranus manipulates. Thanks for giving me an insight into your mind.
Posted by FlaviaPosted by spica
Valeria, I think you didn't read the topic at all, as did most Aries. The topic here is DATING AN ARIES.
Stop putting your thoughts and opinions on what I am saying.
But you asked us to.......
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Take my post however you like; disagree however you like.
It still stands.
I will repeat:
Aries and Libra are great as playmates (in whatever way)
but when it coes down to it,
Aries are bad for Libras
in both friendships and relationships.
-fin-
Posted by Invigorate_Me
Spica you are soooooo right. Libras and Aries are both bad in friendships and relationships. I agree with you 100% .
Thanks for agreeing with me. I was half expecting to be bashed here again.
But I am glad you can see it.
But its not to say they dont like each other though.
I usually adore Aries.
But I must remind myself to place them on a glass shelf and not get close to one again.
^It's your choice of words, and personal attacks.
"Wicked" is an extremely strong and judgmental word. It shows hatred.
Well you were biased against Libra from the start. I needed to know where that came from.
And I understand if you would treat me the same way you do your mum. Try to frustrate with roundabout words and reasoning.
It's the first and most fundamental relationship you had. Obviously it stuck and you took your baggage and opinions with you.
I think it goes toshow Aqua and Libra females are at cross purposes as well. Geezus, our argument was basically inconsequential and I felt like you were playing a fool (which you were).
So, na, you dont have to agree with me - you just need to actually BE IN this dynamic for me to be swayed - I can't imagine myself going into a thread about AQUA and LEO and trying to pretend I know what I am talking about.
You don't even know astrology. If you're trying to write a well balanced essay, then you'll score. But not here.
It's either youre for the proposition or against.
You were against, and your first post showed you did it by illegitimate means - taking sides, not even based on any argument.
So, you lose.
Case closed.
"Wicked" is an extremely strong and judgmental word. It shows hatred.
Well you were biased against Libra from the start. I needed to know where that came from.
And I understand if you would treat me the same way you do your mum. Try to frustrate with roundabout words and reasoning.
It's the first and most fundamental relationship you had. Obviously it stuck and you took your baggage and opinions with you.
I think it goes toshow Aqua and Libra females are at cross purposes as well. Geezus, our argument was basically inconsequential and I felt like you were playing a fool (which you were).
So, na, you dont have to agree with me - you just need to actually BE IN this dynamic for me to be swayed - I can't imagine myself going into a thread about AQUA and LEO and trying to pretend I know what I am talking about.
You don't even know astrology. If you're trying to write a well balanced essay, then you'll score. But not here.
It's either youre for the proposition or against.
You were against, and your first post showed you did it by illegitimate means - taking sides, not even based on any argument.
So, you lose.
Case closed.
"You are afraid of them, because you can't handle life and must always KNOW their star sign and if you find out it's an ARIES you will not be able to handle it in your mind. It is so SIMPLE to read up there. How can you live in such fear?"
Nice insult to make your point.
Using FEAR as a weapon?
You missed my point totally.
And I think if there's anythign worse than Aries, it's AQUARIUS.
Try addressing my point next time instead of bringing a new one up as an insult.
Nice insult to make your point.
Using FEAR as a weapon?
You missed my point totally.
And I think if there's anythign worse than Aries, it's AQUARIUS.
Try addressing my point next time instead of bringing a new one up as an insult.
Oh sorry, I shouldnt say AQUARIUS. I must get personal, as you do.
If there's anything worse, it's Valeria25.
You are one scary person. Almost like a psychopath potentialite.
Just be careful not to go that route, because you have the mindpower, and the excessively controlling personality plus the coldheartedness
that is exactly what a sociopath entails.
win.
If there's anything worse, it's Valeria25.
You are one scary person. Almost like a psychopath potentialite.
Just be careful not to go that route, because you have the mindpower, and the excessively controlling personality plus the coldheartedness
that is exactly what a sociopath entails.
win.
^You only say that because you think like a predator.
I'm just telling you, don't use words like "FEAR-no fear" or "SMART-stupid" to manipulate or insult people towards your POV.
It is a mark of a sociopath.
You do recognise those aren't part of the topic, right?
You have been coming here to derail the topic with your uber controlling words.
It is a mark of a sociopath.
You do recognise those aren't part of the topic, right?
You have been coming here to derail the topic with your uber controlling words.
Posted by valeria25Posted by spica
^You only say that because you think like a predator.
That's right.....I'm a predator....
and i'm gonna GETCHA GETCHA GETCHA GOOOOOOD!!!!!
*evil stare* GROWLLLL!!!
LOL!click to expand
Now you're actually getting funny.
Now I know how Aqua and Libra can miscommunicate
and the irony is, you came at my back for my word usage
and blatantly sided one camp
when you say you are fair and have great word usage. hellz no.
You dont know what fair means.
And you're only a nazi towards this camp.
Posted by valeria25Posted by spica
I'm just telling you, don't use words like "FEAR-no fear" or "SMART-stupid" to manipulate or insult people towards your POV.
It is a mark of a sociopath.
You do recognise those aren't part of the topic, right?
You have been coming here to derail the topic with your uber controlling words.
Blah blah blah
You yourself used those words. HAHAHAHAHA.
Can't you read your own stuff?click to expand
I thought Aquas are perfectly logical. Hell no, you're just as confused as any other.
Posted by valeria25
btw, i'm not taking any of this seriously because this is the internet and you shouldn't take my words, and me take your words as anything if there's insult or hurtfulness to be had.
I already had a pretty good convo with you earlier, despite your hurling attacks in between, and saying demeaning things to me while I tried to just shrug it off and tell you to focus on the subject.
But to go around finding dirt on me and twisting it? My relationship with my mother is none of your business. I could have told you about it earlier, but I've already mentioned quite a bit.
She taught us that forgiveness and not holding a grudge was essential in life, but in her life,
she has kept staying in a bad relationship with my father. That is why LisaLeo's post really stood out to me.
Unevolved souls would remain unevolved if they stay in bad relationships. I've always mentioned that they have not the greatest marriage but I dont know why she is afraid to move on. She had plenty of opportunities but she never took it when her parents were alive, now they recently died and she's more afraid to go on her own. She finds only her children keep her together. So if anything, I feel such great sadness for my mother, but also love, because there's nothing I can do for her but support her.
But you're very judgmental towards her, do you know that?
And then you say you tell her not to judge your aunt?
What? double standards.
She hould be able to live the way she wants, if her children mean more to her than anything else.
Libras tend to like the status quo.
Obviousy you thunk she is weak,
BUT hold your judgment.
Weakness is subjective.
She can be strong beyond measure.
But you just dont see it
because Aquas have a tendency to unfairly judge libras.
Posted by valeria25
spica, lighten up, honestly.
i've said it already, that life is just too much fun to take things seriously and throw bad joo joo juice.
but it's like, you have to "think" of every situation has to go your way and everyone has to agree with you, and if they disagree with you, make sure they love you while disagreeing with you.
people aren't going to agree with you in this world, and won't love you either, and hey, that's OK!!
you dont need them, and they dont need you.
your sagittarius moon is showing.
I think even if you take offense you'd still be laughing your ass off. You can't help it 😛
My Aqua teacher had the same placements as you *shock, horror* Aqua sun saggie moon. I recognised her in some parts of what you write. She also had this sense of humour and humanitarian attitude..
But, I have to honestly say I can't go to her for advice in some areas because she will try to make HER REALITY MY REALITY. She doesnt understand Libra doesnt think as she does. I think you're the same way.
Just respect your mother (poor mom, aqua and aries are a handful) and her choices. You can fault her actions, but dont try to control how she thinks and feels. and this goes for everyone else.
My guru is a psychiatrist.
She also has a potential to be a sociopath because her mind is THAT powerful.
For her to choose the light or the dark is her own choice.
But I am glad she chose the light.
And Arizona Raspberry, you can support Valeria based on emotion and friendship, that I understand, but dont expect me to take you seriously.
She also has a potential to be a sociopath because her mind is THAT powerful.
For her to choose the light or the dark is her own choice.
But I am glad she chose the light.
And Arizona Raspberry, you can support Valeria based on emotion and friendship, that I understand, but dont expect me to take you seriously.
But Valeria, I have to add that when you say something like
"you should be smarter than to think like that or say something like that..."
or
"you fear this yada yada"
it's pretty insulting
because
thats basically what sociopaths use as their weapon.. intimidation through words.
So just to let you know that.
"...STILL rigid in her thinking."
You obviously didnt understand when I said you cant control how someone else thinks.
I'm in the psych fied and yes I am a nazi for such things.
"you should be smarter than to think like that or say something like that..."
or
"you fear this yada yada"
it's pretty insulting
because
thats basically what sociopaths use as their weapon.. intimidation through words.
So just to let you know that.
"...STILL rigid in her thinking."
You obviously didnt understand when I said you cant control how someone else thinks.
I'm in the psych fied and yes I am a nazi for such things.
Aqua and Libra don't match so well either. They have matching MENTAL interests is all..
but one reason why she stays is because the scorpio part holds them together (IMO)
and also, the trine of lira and aqua are really too hard to let go of, even if they want to.
And usually the female wont instigate the moving on. unless your dad does, she will prolly stays.
but one reason why she stays is because the scorpio part holds them together (IMO)
and also, the trine of lira and aqua are really too hard to let go of, even if they want to.
And usually the female wont instigate the moving on. unless your dad does, she will prolly stays.
Having not read more than the first post or two, I respectfully disagree.
Having dated several Aries men, I have found the relationships very loving and kind. They always seem very happy to support me in anything I want and usually leave all the decision making up to me (which I really don't like). I think in love relationships Libra mellows the Aries out. And domineering Aries becomes all about cooperation. The two get along so well in fact, it seems to kill any passion that may have been there.
I have only had this not happen once and that was when me and the guy were very young. That relationship was much more of what you describe.
Having dated several Aries men, I have found the relationships very loving and kind. They always seem very happy to support me in anything I want and usually leave all the decision making up to me (which I really don't like). I think in love relationships Libra mellows the Aries out. And domineering Aries becomes all about cooperation. The two get along so well in fact, it seems to kill any passion that may have been there.
I have only had this not happen once and that was when me and the guy were very young. That relationship was much more of what you describe.
Posted by little_sparrow
Having not read more than the first post or two, I respectfully disagree.
Having dated several Aries men, I have found the relationships very loving and kind. They always seem very happy to support me in anything I want and usually leave all the decision making up to me (which I really don't like). I think in love relationships Libra mellows the Aries out. And domineering Aries becomes all about cooperation. The two get along so well in fact, it seems to kill any passion that may have been there.
I have only had this not happen once and that was when me and the guy were very young. That relationship was much more of what you describe.
But you didn't last, right? That was the gist of this.
LisaLeo mentioned later on (pg 14 I think) that Libra and Aries have this childhood think of impeding each others' growth.
"Sorry I dont remember the first one. I dont think I would say that. However the 2nd one yes, but only if you have to include the ENTIRE sentence... including the entire sentence and within it's context would reveal much much more and so people don't get mixed up and confused. It's like in any newspaper or propaganda....everything has to be read not literally but actually understand what's behind it. Also, take things with a grain of salt. I never believe gossip news, but I know they are entertainment value. The journalists make a lot of money fooling the audience all the time, NOT all, but a majority of people in the world. People dont really want to THINK about it and just enjoy the gossip and share with their friends.
As for my mother, and her rigid thinking, she sways back and forth, but I've already gotten used to her...I still can't help feeling sad because she is sad. She's not always sad, she has some happiness too."
Okay. I didn't take it that way, because in that context, I felt you missed my point.. its not a matter of fear at all. Its about not repeating the patterns that cause more harm than good, or the patterns that don't work.
Libras like to sway back and forth, and "rigid thinking" is not something in the realm of Libras. Maybe its a misconstruation of her behaviour nbecause you think differently from her..
As for my mother, and her rigid thinking, she sways back and forth, but I've already gotten used to her...I still can't help feeling sad because she is sad. She's not always sad, she has some happiness too."
Okay. I didn't take it that way, because in that context, I felt you missed my point.. its not a matter of fear at all. Its about not repeating the patterns that cause more harm than good, or the patterns that don't work.
Libras like to sway back and forth, and "rigid thinking" is not something in the realm of Libras. Maybe its a misconstruation of her behaviour nbecause you think differently from her..
"Okay. I didn't take it that way, because in that context, I felt you missed my point.. its not a matter of fear at all. Its about not repeating the patterns that cause more harm than good, or the patterns that don't work."
*thats why I thought you were trying to intimdate me towards your POV.
"She has taurus moon too. Stubborn perhaps."
I guess she's kinda earthy. The taurus moon is all about family and security. She probably likes to cook and nurture.
Amd the fact you bounced heads with her is really, IMO based on your fixed sign and hers.
Her taurus moon and your sun.
She must be a real beauty - double venus.
*thats why I thought you were trying to intimdate me towards your POV.
"She has taurus moon too. Stubborn perhaps."
I guess she's kinda earthy. The taurus moon is all about family and security. She probably likes to cook and nurture.
Amd the fact you bounced heads with her is really, IMO based on your fixed sign and hers.
Her taurus moon and your sun.
She must be a real beauty - double venus.
We didn't last but not for the reasons given. In the last relationship, it was too giving, too comprimising, too supportive. In a way, it was too compatible and too *nIcE*.
I learned that there must be some tension, some point of frustration, if a relationship is to grow and expand. There must be some conflict. I don't think we impeded each other's individual growth, in fact it was very much encouraged, to the point that we grew our separate ways. He really did become my best friend. But sexual chemistry needs some point of tension and conflict, some fear of losing the other person, which we didn't have. *shrug*
JMO.
Pretty much the same thing happened with the Aries I dated several years ago. He really helped heal my heart and get on my feet but there was no conflict, tension thus no passion, sexual chemistry.
I learned that there must be some tension, some point of frustration, if a relationship is to grow and expand. There must be some conflict. I don't think we impeded each other's individual growth, in fact it was very much encouraged, to the point that we grew our separate ways. He really did become my best friend. But sexual chemistry needs some point of tension and conflict, some fear of losing the other person, which we didn't have. *shrug*
JMO.
Pretty much the same thing happened with the Aries I dated several years ago. He really helped heal my heart and get on my feet but there was no conflict, tension thus no passion, sexual chemistry.
Posted by little_sparrow
We didn't last but not for the reasons given. In the last relationship, it was too giving, too comprimising, too supportive. In a way, it was too compatible and too *nIcE*.
I learned that there must be some tension, some point of frustration, if a relationship is to grow and expand. There must be some conflict. I don't think we impeded each other's individual growth, in fact it was very much encouraged, to the point that we grew our separate ways. He really did become my best friend. But sexual chemistry needs some point of tension and conflict, some fear of losing the other person, which we didn't have. *shrug*
JMO.
Pretty much the same thing happened with the Aries I dated several years ago. He really helped heal my heart and get on my feet but there was no conflict, tension thus no passion, sexual chemistry.
I may be wrong,
but the lack of sexual chemistry may not be a thing in itself.
It can be a way of both of you to tell each other that you're not compatible.
Like, when X and Y realise they're not compatible, they usually find a reason to show each other that. And sexual compatibility can be a reason.
It could also be due to the fact that what drew you in was sexual grounds, that is why you cited the reason as sexual in your break up.
Posted by valeria25Posted by spica
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Yeah my mother used to be in beauty contests and was the social butterfly in her glory school days. She's very beautiful and also had PLENTY of admirers. But she wanted my dad because he came from a good family background and is very handsome too.
She does love nurturing and cooking. lol. And she's a great hostess! She also loves working for the sick and needy.click to expand
Nah, she'll never break off. She's staying in there for good. You should be proud of her instead of judging her to be weak. Usually people do things which suit them the best, and to her, that was the BEST option. So she actually sees herself as strong.. believe it or not.
"I actually don't judge her at all as weak because she has many strengths; i just feel sad when she cries. But you see, my daddy cries too in silence. Only my aries sister gets on the best with him and she feels more in tune with him. If agreeing with those and the philosophy that people shuold break away from a toxic relationship is liberating, and should free them, and they will grow, then that's what i would like. But i know she'll never leave and he'll never leave. I know she sees it as a strength. She feels it holds the family together..."
It could also be the children.. maybe she doesn't see a point..
I dont actually know whats going on between your parents, but generational influences can play a part on choices.
Sometimes they stay together because they're sick of the dating game.
It could also be the children.. maybe she doesn't see a point..
I dont actually know whats going on between your parents, but generational influences can play a part on choices.
Sometimes they stay together because they're sick of the dating game.
* oh THAT Libra situation is dealt with. Libra or no Libra, the guy is not available. He IS emotionally available and for a while I was pretty outraged to see him try out different girls and then run back into the marriage and duck for cover under the Aries momma skirts when things would go wrong. Then I thought, this is his harsh reality just the way us Leos have our own. He'll overcome it eventually.
Still, now its become a learning thing, thats why I remained on DXP. Plus I like Libras. plus I have a Libra moon, maybe thats why Im so attracted to you guysa
Lisa
I think what you are witnessing was that lack of sexual chemistry and passion. The union between Aries and Libra is perfect except that one little thing that in the end, ends up being a really big thing.
Don't forget that Libra is the lesson of choice and choosing between two things. This does not exclude romantic partners.
I also suspect (and maybe the other Libras can chime in) that we tend to rubberband. We have to feel what it is to lose you, to appreciate you. We have to toy with the idea of running away to run back.
Still, now its become a learning thing, thats why I remained on DXP. Plus I like Libras. plus I have a Libra moon, maybe thats why Im so attracted to you guysa
Lisa
I think what you are witnessing was that lack of sexual chemistry and passion. The union between Aries and Libra is perfect except that one little thing that in the end, ends up being a really big thing.
Don't forget that Libra is the lesson of choice and choosing between two things. This does not exclude romantic partners.
I also suspect (and maybe the other Libras can chime in) that we tend to rubberband. We have to feel what it is to lose you, to appreciate you. We have to toy with the idea of running away to run back.
* I may be wrong,
but the lack of sexual chemistry may not be a thing in itself.
It can be a way of both of you to tell each other that you're not compatible.
* Like, when X and Y realise they're not compatible, they usually find a reason to show each other that. And sexual compatibility can be a reason.
It could also be due to the fact that what drew you in was sexual grounds, that is why you cited the reason as sexual in your break up.
Excellent point Spica and perhaps. I know from our very first date things were easy between us because we were so comfortable. I remember our first date and at one point he exclaimed, "Why is this so easy with you?" lol!
In truth, I have no idea which came first. The lack of compatibility or the lack of sexual chemistry.
I do know that I didn't leave the relationship defeated, broken, or depleted. I left with a more honest sense of self and great hope. When I met him, I didn't believe in love. (Very bad break-up with a Virgo). When I left him, I did. Not only that, I believe it is possible for me. What an amazing gift to walk away with! I really believe it was a healing relationship that has prepared me for the real thing and had I not dated this Aries, I may never have made it to this point. Although I also have ground-breaking relationships with Leos, the Leo-Libra connection (for me) is too passionate for this kind of healing to happen.
but the lack of sexual chemistry may not be a thing in itself.
It can be a way of both of you to tell each other that you're not compatible.
* Like, when X and Y realise they're not compatible, they usually find a reason to show each other that. And sexual compatibility can be a reason.
It could also be due to the fact that what drew you in was sexual grounds, that is why you cited the reason as sexual in your break up.
Excellent point Spica and perhaps. I know from our very first date things were easy between us because we were so comfortable. I remember our first date and at one point he exclaimed, "Why is this so easy with you?" lol!
In truth, I have no idea which came first. The lack of compatibility or the lack of sexual chemistry.
I do know that I didn't leave the relationship defeated, broken, or depleted. I left with a more honest sense of self and great hope. When I met him, I didn't believe in love. (Very bad break-up with a Virgo). When I left him, I did. Not only that, I believe it is possible for me. What an amazing gift to walk away with! I really believe it was a healing relationship that has prepared me for the real thing and had I not dated this Aries, I may never have made it to this point. Although I also have ground-breaking relationships with Leos, the Leo-Libra connection (for me) is too passionate for this kind of healing to happen.
"I also suspect (and maybe the other Libras can chime in) that we tend to rubberband. We have to feel what it is to lose you, to appreciate you. We have to toy with the idea of running away to run back."
I agree with this one. Me and Libra (m) have this rubber band thingy. We were very scared to lose each other. I play this with him as well. But at the end of the day, when I know he will come back, then I loose the anxiety. Libras are very sentimental, and they don't disappear. They just go away but their mind is where it usually is.
"I do know that I didn't leave the relationship defeated, broken, or depleted. I left with a more honest sense of self and great hope. When I met him, I didn't believe in love. (Very bad break-up with a Virgo). When I left him, I did. Not only that, I believe it is possible for me. What an amazing gift to walk away with! I really believe it was a healing relationship that has prepared me for the real thing and had I not dated this Aries, I may never have made it to this point. Although I also have ground-breaking relationships with Leos, the Leo-Libra connection (for me) is too passionate for this kind of healing to happen."
I think its your fire moon that attracts you to fire sign men.
Also maybe its the aries male-libra female dynamic.
because if its the aries female, libra male dynamic, its more tumultous from what i know.
I grew up with an aries male friend (in my clique). I couldnt imagine dating him, but if I did, I could also say its the lack of sexual tension.
But I always placed it upon the fact that my dad was aries. So I wasnt attracted to people like my dad.
But overall, I'd still think we were incompatible for the long term; it would die out like a fuse (I did date an aries in my younger days, it lasted less than a week)
I agree with this one. Me and Libra (m) have this rubber band thingy. We were very scared to lose each other. I play this with him as well. But at the end of the day, when I know he will come back, then I loose the anxiety. Libras are very sentimental, and they don't disappear. They just go away but their mind is where it usually is.
"I do know that I didn't leave the relationship defeated, broken, or depleted. I left with a more honest sense of self and great hope. When I met him, I didn't believe in love. (Very bad break-up with a Virgo). When I left him, I did. Not only that, I believe it is possible for me. What an amazing gift to walk away with! I really believe it was a healing relationship that has prepared me for the real thing and had I not dated this Aries, I may never have made it to this point. Although I also have ground-breaking relationships with Leos, the Leo-Libra connection (for me) is too passionate for this kind of healing to happen."
I think its your fire moon that attracts you to fire sign men.
Also maybe its the aries male-libra female dynamic.
because if its the aries female, libra male dynamic, its more tumultous from what i know.
I grew up with an aries male friend (in my clique). I couldnt imagine dating him, but if I did, I could also say its the lack of sexual tension.
But I always placed it upon the fact that my dad was aries. So I wasnt attracted to people like my dad.
But overall, I'd still think we were incompatible for the long term; it would die out like a fuse (I did date an aries in my younger days, it lasted less than a week)
True. I have considered the fire moon, I also have a fire rising. Doomed I am! Doommmed! 🙂
The Aries I dated when I was 19 was a disaster. It was very, very up and down. It really became an ego-fueled power struggle.
My dad is a cancer. We did not get a long at all. I have never been attracted to a cancer. Maybe there is something to father signs? 🙂
The Aries I dated when I was 19 was a disaster. It was very, very up and down. It really became an ego-fueled power struggle.
My dad is a cancer. We did not get a long at all. I have never been attracted to a cancer. Maybe there is something to father signs? 🙂
Posted by Invigorate_Me
It was a Libra that taught me how to think and I taught the Libra how to feel more. Now we??re just friends. Actually he had a Libra moon and I have a Leo moon, so our relations were ok. He was a Scorpio. I like Libra but to date one, idk. However, I would like to try it. Maybe a Libra with some sag. or Leo in their chart. I thought Libras and Sags were supposed to get along, but my sister can't stand my mother.
Your mother is Sag or Libra?
You're a bit different breed of Aries. You don't do personal attacks and are aware of Aries' bad points. I'd say kudos to you.. You'd prolly work out well in an equal fashion.. because you are able to detach/ be indepedent and not take things personally.
Posted by little_sparrow
True. I have considered the fire moon, I also have a fire rising. Doomed I am! Doommmed! 🙂
The Aries I dated when I was 19 was a disaster. It was very, very up and down. It really became an ego-fueled power struggle.
My dad is a cancer. We did not get a long at all. I have never been attracted to a cancer. Maybe there is something to father signs? 🙂
Hmm maybe. It's scary to see someone like the father, actually.
And I wouldnt advise you to try a Cancer man. Cancers are very much like Aries, or worse than when they get mad or controlling. I have cancer friends and their anger (the men) put me off immediately. It's that they are so emotional and basically too much emotion is toxic for libra.
I think most people are disasters at 19. lol
"My mom is a Sag and my sister is the Libra. My sister can't stand my mother and I have no idea why. She feels like my mother didn't do anything for her. "
Yes I wanted to type about this, but I thought maybe your mum was Libra. BUT if yor mum was libra you'd probably really hate her, or something.
And yes, Libras tend to have beef with Sag mothers... Sag mums tend to have a sort of anger.. y'know my aunt is a sag, but she gives me alot of things because I am not her daughter.. But she tends to treat her children more shabbily.. she treats my neice (a libra) very harshly.. very very harshly..
I dont know but sag and libras are good as friends.. not family.. because sags are not family oriented in the first place.. maybe not literally, but through their actions.
Yes I wanted to type about this, but I thought maybe your mum was Libra. BUT if yor mum was libra you'd probably really hate her, or something.
And yes, Libras tend to have beef with Sag mothers... Sag mums tend to have a sort of anger.. y'know my aunt is a sag, but she gives me alot of things because I am not her daughter.. But she tends to treat her children more shabbily.. she treats my neice (a libra) very harshly.. very very harshly..
I dont know but sag and libras are good as friends.. not family.. because sags are not family oriented in the first place.. maybe not literally, but through their actions.
No worries Spica. I rarely meet any water signs anyway other than Scorp. Just don't cross paths with them. And I will NEVER, EVER date a Scorp.
Posted by little_sparrow
No worries Spica. I rarely meet any water signs anyway other than Scorp. Just don't cross paths with them. And I will NEVER, EVER date a Scorp.
Hmm, all the best for your path. I am glad your last relationship helped you heal more. 🙂
Invigorate me , I was not sure why u hid you message but I opened mine back again regarding Sag mum-Libra daughter.
DP, I'm glad you agree too re opposite relationships. To me, I just know this is not a good combi for LTR, but its hard to put it across (yes I'm not the most erm, charming of libras.. I'm very very direct. )
I would think that Aries wouldnt agree with my views, or Valeria as well. So these are just my views (I wouldnt speak for other libras either, they have their own thoughts). I stand pretty strong for it though as a theory.
IMO, there's a way for Aries and Libra to work out -- its the office type relationship. Invigorate me comes very close to it -- like a detached transaction. Because I've seen ariesfemme-libramale relationships and they dont work because of the arien emotional and fawning energy. But a polite and very independent relationship, hell yes it would work! Too bad most aries won't get to the point..
*laters 🙂
DP, I'm glad you agree too re opposite relationships. To me, I just know this is not a good combi for LTR, but its hard to put it across (yes I'm not the most erm, charming of libras.. I'm very very direct. )
I would think that Aries wouldnt agree with my views, or Valeria as well. So these are just my views (I wouldnt speak for other libras either, they have their own thoughts). I stand pretty strong for it though as a theory.
IMO, there's a way for Aries and Libra to work out -- its the office type relationship. Invigorate me comes very close to it -- like a detached transaction. Because I've seen ariesfemme-libramale relationships and they dont work because of the arien emotional and fawning energy. But a polite and very independent relationship, hell yes it would work! Too bad most aries won't get to the point..
*laters 🙂
you both are so right, the need to miss the other is essential for the falling in love process.
and you are right about my libra's association, too. His chart shows a keen interest in career and social status, and hers looks the same. Ultimately it has to do with the aspects between the two individuals, and the unfortunate part is that our composite/Davidson chart (mine+his) showed a terrible set of squares that I've never had with someone else; and huge sexual attraction. Let him go after I convinced myself that no matter how much square ppl try to get along, even if they're really really polite, the tension always stands. Pity. To have someone who taught me so much and not be able to keep him in my life because his needs (less emotions) and our dynamic are ultimately hurting him is no picnic.
Here's the link to a very interesting book (free partial 100 pages preview). You'll find Chapter 2, the natal promise, useful for the marriage/divorce indications present in one's natal chart.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0OJgX88KKMsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=carol+rushman&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
Let me know what you think, I stayed late to read the whole thing ..
and you are right about my libra's association, too. His chart shows a keen interest in career and social status, and hers looks the same. Ultimately it has to do with the aspects between the two individuals, and the unfortunate part is that our composite/Davidson chart (mine+his) showed a terrible set of squares that I've never had with someone else; and huge sexual attraction. Let him go after I convinced myself that no matter how much square ppl try to get along, even if they're really really polite, the tension always stands. Pity. To have someone who taught me so much and not be able to keep him in my life because his needs (less emotions) and our dynamic are ultimately hurting him is no picnic.
Here's the link to a very interesting book (free partial 100 pages preview). You'll find Chapter 2, the natal promise, useful for the marriage/divorce indications present in one's natal chart.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0OJgX88KKMsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=carol+rushman&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
Let me know what you think, I stayed late to read the whole thing ..
the marriage/divorce thing starts page 46..
Posted by spica
Oh sorry, I shouldnt say AQUARIUS. I must get personal, as you do.
If there's anything worse, it's Valeria25.
You are one scary person. Almost like a psychopath potentialite.
Just be careful not to go that route, because you have the mindpower, and the excessively controlling personality plus the coldheartedness
that is exactly what a sociopath entails.
win.
Hello Spica. I don't think I know you on here that well but I just had to chime in on this because I TOTALLY disagree! Have you read Valeria's other posts? She is very open to people's opinions but of course this is a forum and everyone doesn't always agree. She gives great insight on a lot of different topics and she is not a vindictive or "controlling" person IMO. I think your words here are so very harsh against someone you don't even know in real life. Please be careful about saying someone may be a sociopath especially if you don't carry the credentials to make a diagnosis or an assumption like that. I don't see where she displayed being "coldhearted" on here either. 😢
Posted by StpatrickspiscesPosted by spica
Oh sorry, I shouldnt say AQUARIUS. I must get personal, as you do.
If there's anything worse, it's Valeria25.
You are one scary person. Almost like a psychopath potentialite.
Just be careful not to go that route, because you have the mindpower, and the excessively controlling personality plus the coldheartedness
that is exactly what a sociopath entails.
win.
Hello Spica. I don't think I know you on here that well but I just had to chime in on this because I TOTALLY disagree! Have you read Valeria's other posts? She is very open to people's opinions but of course this is a forum and everyone doesn't always agree. She gives great insight on a lot of different topics and she is not a vindictive or "controlling" person IMO. I think your words here are so very harsh against someone you don't even know in real life. Please be careful about saying someone may be a sociopath especially if you don't carry the credentials to make a diagnosis or an assumption like that. I don't see where she displayed being "coldhearted" on here either. 😢click to expand
I am sorry if what I said offended you. It is admirable you stand up for Valeria and I respect that.
However, I still stand by my views that she has the mindpower and the sufficent detachment to make a good sociopath. It is a compliment, in a way. Obviously I dont know her, thus by that logic, why should what I say have ANY effect on her?
Note that I have many insults thrown my way, some from Valeria. I chose to ignore them because obviously she does not know me. So, pretty much a moot point, if its false, discard it.
In effect, Uranians tend to make very detached and strategic moves, especially if coupled with Martian energy. I know that, because its something I have come across.
Posted by LisaLeo
you both are so right, the need to miss the other is essential for the falling in love process.
and you are right about my libra's association, too. His chart shows a keen interest in career and social status, and hers looks the same. Ultimately it has to do with the aspects between the two individuals, and the unfortunate part is that our composite/Davidson chart (mine+his) showed a terrible set of squares that I've never had with someone else; and huge sexual attraction. Let him go after I convinced myself that no matter how much square ppl try to get along, even if they're really really polite, the tension always stands. Pity. To have someone who taught me so much and not be able to keep him in my life because his needs (less emotions) and our dynamic are ultimately hurting him is no picnic.
Here's the link to a very interesting book (free partial 100 pages preview). You'll find Chapter 2, the natal promise, useful for the marriage/divorce indications present in one's natal chart.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0OJgX88KKMsC&printsec=frontcover&dq=carol+rushman&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
Let me know what you think, I stayed late to read the whole thing ..
Thank you LisaLeo. I will look through and comment.
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