Welcome Baby Sparrow!!!!

(((BABY SPARROW))))

HA HA HA

You are so awesome.

This is my beloved friend Baby who happens to share the same birthday as me but is a few years younger.

Welcome honey!

Thanks for the welcome little sparrow! Thanks again for mentoring me in the ways of Libra! How crazy it is that we have the same birthday!

Yes and No. We have already declared it to be the birthday of champions so it isn't suprising we share the date. hee hee.

(For those who don't know, we also work out of the same office and write together in our spare time.)

We call Little Sparrow "LS", but I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable calling you "BS"

😛

hahahahahahaa.... Welcome BS!!! rotfl....

BWHHHAAA!!!

I guess we didn't think of that last night when we were talking about this. Ooops Sorry honey.

xoxox

Maybe you guys could be little_sparrow and littleler_sparrow...lol. So what are your birthdays?

hee!

Oct. 11

I am almost 10 years older though.

🙂

why not small sparrow then?? SS!!

That reminds me of Gilligan's Island...


SS Minnow

Just sit right back & you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port aboard this tiny ship.
The mate was a mighty sailing man, The skipper brave & sure.
Five passengers set sail that day for a three hour tour,
A three hour tour

awwww jeez, not another Librette...

welcome BS, Bride of LS!!!

may your time here be as frustrating as ours...

Cookie!!!!!!!!

Cooookiiiieeee!!!!!


Coooooooo kkkkkkkk iiiiiii eeeeeee!!!!

How do LS?

somebody needs to lay off the caffeine... :C

I have already warned her of your Leo charms.

I am trying to convince her to give up the water boys and go fire.

negative on the fire charm ... the Scales tell the tales that pull in the tails

*happy sigh*

Cookie old chap ... I believe we need to light up some cigars, poor some scotch, and reminisce about the good old days.

Welcome! 🙂

I really do have this horrible thing for water signs. It's quite bad actually! Must get over it! I don't really mind being called BS, I actually think that it's funny. Thanks everyone for the great welcome. I wasn't expecting it at all. Yes yes, I know that I'm ANOTHER Libra, but isn't that what the world needs? More Libras?

I think the planet Earth is a Libra

Agreed BS.

Because we are sensible yet wear fashionable shoes.

🙂

Uh huh, you aren't the only Libra who has a thing for water signs 😉

Oh I was thinking that you really had a baby from the thread title. lol

I always think its a huge issue that people get attracted to wrong signs. Air and Fire is acceptable. Taurus man - Gem Girl, Gem man to cancer girl, Virgo man to Libra girl, Libra Man to Scorp girl, Cappy Man and Aqua girl, Aqua man and Pisces girl are also good but comes with equal amount of emotions and frustrations.

But still when its clear that you will fail to understand them completely and it wont be a perfectly smooth relationship, why is it that people still chase down other signs? Is it the extra heartbeats what make people think they are in love? Or is it that people have a general tendency to think what media portray as love is actually love and rest all are just friends? I think we stand a better possibility for a long lasting relationship with a good friend than the ones we lust. What you all think??

a good friendship is hard to come by and yes, many times, its better than a "r/ship" as such. Apparently FWB is a good option?? LOL

* Oh I was thinking that you really had a baby from the thread title. lol

Bite! Your! Tongue!

* I think we stand a better possibility for a long lasting relationship with a good friend than the ones we lust.

In the perfect world, we would pick friends we want to shag. You should pick someone who you just plain like with good character, if things are going to work long term. Just me opinion.

***In the perfect world, we would pick friends we want to shag. You should pick someone who you just plain like with good character, if things are going to work long term. Just me opinion.***

Ditto.

I don't think there should really be a major reason why you like someone. You just do and that is enough for me.

However, friends definitely last longer than some relationships. That is why, to me, it is important that the person you are in a relationship is also your friend.

***I don't think there should really be a major reason why you like someone. You just do and that is enough for me.***

You like someone and after a while you have disagreements with the same person. No matter how much ever you like someone, you happen to get fed up of them at some point of time. But this dont happen btween friends. Only btween lovers.

***You like someone and after a while you have disagreements with the same person. No matter how much ever you like someone, you happen to get fed up of them at some point of time. But this dont happen btween friends. Only btween lovers.***

Disagree to an extent. When your lover is your friend then it is easier to make up. You mean to tell me you never ever have disagreements or fall outs with your friends, I do, but we have an understanding that we are who we are and we deal with eachother because we care for eachother and we are friends. Two different people, who will sometimes disagree, and even get angry with eachother, but know not to cross the line of no return if we want to keep eachother as friends. Same rule should apply to lovers.

However, I understand that there is a certain intimacy with lovers, than with friends. I can only speak for myself. I like to be really comfortable around my mate, open and honest about things. Just like with my friends.

I agree QS, your lover should be both your lover and your best friend. Disagreements are inevitable and it is usually best to openly disagree and sort through it and get to the solution. It is easiest when your lover is your friend because you have that mutual understanding and both know the others thinking and feeling process and therefor know how to approach the situation with each other. I think a lot of possible sign combinations have this potential, but there are a specific few which thelibran is trying to say who will be on another level when it comes to these things. Some people get stressed over the small problems that come up in life, I don't. Not because I am in any way ahead of them but that is just how I deal with things and it is one example of a very specific similarity I need in a partner because if my partner is getting worked up over small problems (small problems are problems with an obvious and immediately decidable solution) then my energy gets redirected from being peaceful and moving foreward to having to stop and comfort someone who I feel should be able to handle it in the same way i do. It becomes frustrating no matter how caring and sensitive you are in the situation.

Normally its hard to turn a lover into a friend bcoz of insecurity and fear. They will always be worried you may judge them wrong, and they hide things and tell lies and alter truth to make it comfortable for u. Obviously you will sense something fishy and can grow suspicious. But when its a friend in the beginning, u will know tat no matter whatever u do, he/she dont judge u or treat u different. You wont mind telling them everything bcoz you are not afraid to lose them. He/she is just a friend. Transformation from this friend to a lover is more easy and safe than from a lover to friend bcoz of this fear factor.

//jus what i hv been thinking...🙂

***Normally its hard to turn a lover into a friend bcoz of insecurity and fear. They will always be worried you may judge them wrong, and they hide things and tell lies and alter truth to make it comfortable for u. ***

Again, that is why you should have a lover that you are comfortable with and that is your friend so you don't have to turn them into one.

It works with only scorpio and saggi, QS. Not with other signs. Other signs if we begin as lover, it stays like that.

But that's how we started *shrugs* Im not Sag or Scorp thank goodness...otherwise I'd be worried by my actions LOL

thelibran, why is it then? Why do you feel it is only with Scorp and Saggi. Hmmm, I am a scorp with a lot of Saggi in my chart.

**But that's how we started**

I mean good friend for a while.. say few months or years may be and then promoted as a lover.

QS,
Scorp(dont think this goes for libra women) and saggi understands a libra in his emotional frequency and we get the freedom to be emotional with them like releasing steam. So even if you start are lovers, slowly this gets into a close friendship. We can talk without fear of being judged wrongly. This is not easy with others. We are afraid once we are in love. We will not be so open... but you know.. still a lot open for them to feel that we are open.

Now normally when a gemini or aqua meets a libra, its more of a close friendship and no romance. Either both will be confused where they stand or they think this is only a good friendship and switching it to romance may not work. But this works better.

thelibran, funny, I could never get when women on this post said Libra men didn't show or have an emotional side. It is true they always reveal that side to me. Interesting.

QS, it is oh so simple...

You show your emotional side and he does what you do. He mirrors you, remember? That's all we do.

Libra, that makes sense. It just seem like it is so natural for them, even when you don't show any emotion initially.

That's because we want you and we're just going one step over & above what you show. If you show three, we'll show you four. That should then be taken as a big, fat hint (= effort = wanting something from you). We're not emotional when we don't want anything out of it. But we know how to put ourselves out there to do the needfull and get what we want. Don't underestimate Libra in that respect.

in any respects...

Interesting Libra, soooo as in some people's FWB situations with Libra and they say a Libra has gotten emotional with them, but claim they don't want a serious relationship with that person. Then what? Are they lying to themselves about wanting that person for more than FWB, or are they not able at the moment, but still have these fillings? Or is it just that they can be emotional with that person in whatever relationship they are in at the moment.

To others this might seem like a crazy question, but since Librans have had no problem being emotional and very expressive with me on any level I would like to get clarity for others who claim they can't reach the Librans emotional side. I just can't imagine a Libra not showing an emotional side, even as a friend... Hmmm.

I will speak for myself and assume that this is the general Libra view (I'm a reasonably balanced person)...

I am not good at needing others. This is verbal or otherwise. I don't want to be seen as needy. Am scared of being mocked, poked fun, people talking about me behind my back etc. - I've written about this subject on and off on the Libra board. But when I get someone opposite me who her/himself talks about things that are emotion-related it then becomes a safe territory for me to do the same e.g. you won't make fun of me when I reveal more of emotional myself. And I reckon that you don't hide your emotions (love, fear, dislike) in your dealings with others. On this board you're compassionate, kind and sometimes you tell it as you see it. In other words you give people the space and trust to behave like this as well and to communicate on an equal level.

But I am sure we see you, QS, be like this first and we then follow. Perhaps it has something to do with feeling that you take a Libran individual seriously. I am certain that the reason why I have a fear of ridicule is because I ridicule (never openly) myself. So I know it exists. I have NO idea whether this makes any sense...

I have never shagged anyone I did not fancy and when I fancy I want everything forever but it takes forever to get that person into my head and equally forever to forget about them. The strongest indication for me is that if I don't make effort I don't really want anything. When I put in effort I really do want something from you. If the effort stops I don't want anything.

I think we look at what the other person needs (when hanging out with us) when we meet someone. I mean, if you make a lot of jokes I will crack some and hope you giggle and think I am this wonderfully funny person who you just have to be with. And what we see in you is what we assume you will want in a partner.

As regards your question - perhaps a scorp brings out the other person's emotions quite early on and then the relationship perhaps does not take off...?

my emotional self*

(second para)

I have realized about myself that I tend to think/feel that my emotions, the deeper or heavier ones are mine, and it is unfair or irresponsible to put those emotions on other people. Mix this in with the fact that we go back and forth in our heads about something until we make a decision it is usually a bad idea with most people especially emotional people to expose our emotions when we first feel them because were going to go back and forth until we get to the bottom of it and confuse the crap out of the other person. A lot of times when we are being confused about not opening up this is what is going on.

A lot of us also see emotion on a lower level than reason, the whole objective v.s. subjective thing. We see emotions as effect because they are. We are feeling something becasue something triggered that feeling. It is not the feeling we are interrested in disecting, that is like treating the symptom instead of the disease but rather discerning what it was that caused that feeling. That is where we get our emotional security. This is what people need to realize about us. Emotions are like a signal board, a good emotions are a signal that something is going right, bad that something is going wrong. They are a tool.

**As regards your question - perhaps a scorp brings out the other person's emotions quite early on and then the relationship perhaps does not take off...?**

Scorp female emotional thingy works on libra men only. Virgo men should be the ones who give those same emotional space for libran girls.

Scorp man - libra girl dont seems to be right.

LIBRA you put that into words so well....

Thanks for the inlightment. I get it now. Thanks Libra for your conception of me. I do try and stay honest and open and focus on the general question at hand so everyone will understand when I post on the board. I am also a very honest expressive person, so I don't sugar coat too well. So, yes, what you see is what you get with me and I can see how that could allow someone to let down their guard and feel comfortable. Because I am just me and that is all I expect from the other person. Thanks for that... It was a compliment.