VirgoHero
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What is your opinion? (The Trilogy) (Page 37)
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Posted by SirenStingPosted by feby16aqua
Hmmm LOL me thinks you went a little easy on yourselves NO?? HAHA 😛
I think so too, Febby 🙂
I think you and 911 need to come up with some NEW avatars for tiz and VH. Use that beautiful Aquarian and Libran innovativness to your advantage! 😛click to expand
OHHHHH!!!!
I see how it is, Siren.
Don't forget Football seasons is right around the corner and one of your boys is about to be indicted on murder charges! You may be on the receiving end of one of these AVATARS OF SHAME 😛
Posted by Jahlia
This is exactly why I don't make bets 😏. The truly neutral always win mwahaha.
Ah sweet Jahlia, sometimes to get the best out of life, one has to take a risk.
"Fate loves the Fearless"
THAT attitude, may make the difference someday if you're trying to catch that pisces boy of yours 😄
GOOD MORNING LEEBS AND My Fellow NON LEEBS!!!! 😄
Posted by SirenSting
HAHAHA! I don't know if I could bare having the GIANTS as my AVI. It might acutally cause me severe anguish. Ha. And tell me about it! My team is a disgrace right now! Sucks... as a man would say, all the hot ones are crazy. Stupid Hernandez!
Yup! Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Or the ladies version:
Don't wrap your hoo-ha on bonkers
Posted by CuriousLuv1
GOOD MORNING LEEBS AND My Fellow NON LEEBS!!!! 😄
Well HELLO THERE, CL1 😄
What's good?
Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by CuriousLuv1
GOOD MORNING LEEBS AND My Fellow NON LEEBS!!!! 😄
Well HELLO THERE, CL1 😄
What's good?click to expand
Life's good can't complain! How about you?
The Losers are highly excited in regards to the reception of their punishments, it does get one thinking............ *dwindles off into curious silence*
Posted by SirenSting
Maybe Jahlia is smarter than us for not betting haha. I get flippin CRAZY when I make bets on sports games!
I'm like "BACK off of my couch, bro! This is MY pillow which I need to spike on the ground! This is MY spot!"
I yell, I get feisty, I jump, I play fight... I'm straight nuts-o. I'm sure that kind of behavior can't be good for my cardiac rhythm 😛
That's kind of hot there, Siren 😄
It sounds conducive of getting towards cardiac rhythm work if you ask me 😄
I was never good at gambling. Not my strong suit at all.
Posted by feby16aqua
Yeah, those avis are not rough enough 😛
You know Feby. I like knowing you're one to give it as hard as she gets. You can keep up. I like that.
Posted by feby16aqua
I need more compliments in them honestly. I do love compliments haha. 😛
How the HELL am I supposed to compliment you without knowing what you look like?
Tiz, you know Miss Feby more than I do. How does she like her ego to be stroked?
Posted by CuriousLuv1
I was never good at gambling. Not my strong suit at all.
How about risks with matters of life and matters of the heart? 🙂
Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by CuriousLuv1
I was never good at gambling. Not my strong suit at all.
How about risks with matters of life and matters of the heart? 🙂click to expand
I think I take more risks with the heart.
I do watch football and I can get a bit excited, but I keep it fairly cool. LOL At least when I am watching alone. With a group of people the energy from everyone else can boost mine and then I may get a bit crazy. Ha ha ha
Posted by tiziani
I think you're doing more than a good enough job already VH my friend 😉
I was just sitting here thinking jeez Merc in Leos may actually be smoother than Merc in Libras.
Even if feb is more into what's underneath, if you need a physical tip, she takes a lot of pride in her long hair. 🙂
Haha its funny you bring that up. Scorpette and I just had a discussion about that merc in Leo earlier this evening. She did a amazing impromptu analysis of my placements.
Scorpette, care to share what you thought of me and my chart? 😄 (The one where you say LEO a lot)
Posted by CuriousLuv1Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by CuriousLuv1
I was never good at gambling. Not my strong suit at all.
How about risks with matters of life and matters of the heart? 🙂
I think I take more risks with the heart.click to expand
That's good! 😄
Posted by CuriousLuv1
I do watch football and I can get a bit excited, but I keep it fairly cool. LOL At least when I am watching alone. With a group of people the energy from everyone else can boost mine and then I may get a bit crazy. Ha ha ha
Oh that begs this next question then, Cl1. Who's your team? 😄
The pre season is going to roll up on us shortly 🙂
Siren and I have a bit of a rivalry when it comes to this 😄
Posted by tiziani
Well, you know there is one thing Scorpio ladies certainly excel at in terms of archetypal zodiac traits to bring to the table and that when Sartori and yourself, TLS, were saying "it's a person's job to uncover all the hidden fantasies of their lover" and I can't deny it, that is admirable.
When it comes to the "dominatrix" setting of her unloading all the mental pressure off you having to initiative and she just makes it simple for you, that's something I've never really had to the max. Not even once. Which would be a regret for me if I went all life saying that.
It is our job to push ourselves and our lovers to the outer most boundaries, or even taking each other beyond them in expansion. There are one and a billion ways in which to satisfy our lover, we want to know, feel and breathe life into every single nuance until their kingdom of paradise belongs to what we have collectively created together. When we set ourselves out to do something, it must be done to perfection, till the very end where not a single stone is left unturned. It is also our duty to sense what our lover may want before they are even able to verbally express it, in fact that is a turn-on to think about it, such a connection and this does not always have to occur in the sexual sense as it were. We pretty much want ones soul, body, heart and mind, fully investigated, understood and fulfilled, that brings pleasure to our kind.
Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by tiziani
I think you're doing more than a good enough job already VH my friend 😉
I was just sitting here thinking jeez Merc in Leos may actually be smoother than Merc in Libras.
Even if feb is more into what's underneath, if you need a physical tip, she takes a lot of pride in her long hair. 🙂
Haha its funny you bring that up. Scorpette and I just had a discussion about that merc in Leo earlier this evening. She did a amazing impromptu analysis of my placements.
Scorpette, care to share what you thought of me and my chart? 😄 (The one where you say LEO a lot)click to expand
You mean your mental asylum? 😄 Do allow me search for it again...
Posted by feby16aquaPosted by VirgoHeroPosted by feby16aqua
Yeah, those avis are not rough enough 😛
You know Feby. I like knowing you're one to give it as hard as she gets. You can keep up. I like that.
of course. It wouldn't be fair any other way. I like to go, go hard and welcome any match to that...or even **gasp** top me? 😛click to expand
Ha! The power struggle is such the aphrodisiac...
Posted by feby16aquaPosted by TheLadyScorpio
It is our job to push ourselves and our lovers to the outer most boundaries, or even taking each other beyond them in expansion. There are one and a billion ways in which to satisfy our lover, we want to know, feel and breathe life into every single nuance until their kingdom of paradise belongs to what we have collectively created together. When we set ourselves out to do something, it must be done to perfection, till the very end where not a single stone is left unturned. It is also our duty to sense what our lover may want before they are even able to verbally express it, in fact that is a turn-on to think about it, such a connection and this does not always have to occur in the sexual sense as it were. We pretty much want ones soul, body, heart and mind, fully investigated, understood and fulfilled, that brings pleasure to our kind.
Yes, but what happens if the fantasies overstep personal boundaries? I share your sentiments btw. I've always felt this way as you are describing. I have a hard time, however, finding someone who can match my emotional and spiritual intensity...I'm left with a feeling of wanting more and more.
I'll admit I'm a bit of a hedonist at times as well. As long as it's fun and feels good then I'm in and can't get enough.click to expand
How good are you at reading how far you'll be able to take your partner in the early stages of being with someone?
tiz - It is not exactly going an extra mile, it is reaching that level of connectivity with another individual where silence itself would be but communication (of course whilst a concrete foundation of verbal communication should be but already in place, for this is the generous icing upon the cake).
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
tiz - It is not exactly going an extra mile, it is reaching that level of connectivity with another individual where silence itself would be but communication (of course whilst a concrete foundation of verbal communication should be but already in place, for this is the generous icing upon the cake).
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
I get what you're saying with this and its utterly a beautiful sentiment. My only concern is...
Do you find this an idea to dwell on or an expectation to be lived up to. There is a difference.
Posted by feby16aqua
And knowing what someone wants before they verbally express it? hmmm. I need to work on that. I'm best when all the cards are on the table...I'm not good at guessing. Well, either I'm not good or I can't be bothered to some extent. Sounds messed up but it's my truth any way you slice it.
Well Feby, this connectivity would be gradually nurtured and built over quite a lengthy period of time, one does not merely reach the destination should one will it, nor does it happen over night. What I speak of is the chemistry/intertwining between two individuals, that have been together for quite some time, we do not pursue upon such a Holy Grail with every lover that should cross our paths, only the few that are worthwhile enough to deserve our full, unfiltered selves.
In the beginning there would be clear verbal expressions, because misunderstandings hardly brew enough trust to create anything of any greater splendor. There is only so much words can but express, it is hard to explain but for myself, or rather our kind, we tend to have this fifth sense, our ever perceptive intuition, to be able to tap into that, having it catering and channeled towards our lover, is the precise goal. It is not guessing at all, in fact, it is natural and rarely wrong, we communicate over 80% through body language rather than words themselves, our kind, we prefer to focus on this aspect to bring our lovers to new realms and heights. It is a finely attuned skill, one supposes that would be what it would be categorized as?
Posted by feby16aquaPosted by VirgoHero
How good are you at reading how far you'll be able to take your partner in the early stages of being with someone?
I don't think I'm very good. Most of the time my head is in the clouds, sand, ass name it...at least I've been told so. I don't give much thought or introspection unless I am "forced" to, namely something has been called to my attention that I cannot ignore.
How would one gage this? Do you mean that you can, say, meet me and know how far you'll be able to take me?click to expand
From the get go? Not at all. But usually after a fair amount of quality time spent getting to know the person, I can usually get a great gauge of it. This is not to say that the PERSON can't change or wont change as time passes.
For me its the difference between falling for someone for who they are versus falling for someone for what you WANT them to be. The ability to gauge someone comes with believing in my sentiment.
Posted by Libra911
Where are loser's avis VH? I was expecting at least one in my inbox waiting for approval 🙂
Good morning Miss Leebs? Did you sleep well?
At your convenience, click on my name and look at the four AVATARS OF SHAME I created. It sounds like we'll need to make a few more as its not bloodthirsty enough for Feby (So hot!). Check them out and discuss with your partner.
Tizzy and I graciously and patiently await our fate 😄
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
tiz - It is not exactly going an extra mile, it is reaching that level of connectivity with another individual where silence itself would be but communication (of course whilst a concrete foundation of verbal communication should be but already in place, for this is the generous icing upon the cake).
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
Scorpette, I need you to know I'm going to ask this question NOT out of condescension or arrogance. I haven't known you long enough to know the answer to this next question....
Have you ever been married or truly consumed by love?
Posted by Libra911
hmmm they are kinda soft core... Feby what do you think? I was thinking more s&m kind of avi LOL
Bring me pictures, whisper me your words, and I'll photoshop the up, no worries! Seriously ladies, be creative and have fun with this! That's the whole point of bragging rights 😄
(Note: My only request is you don't do something overly crazy grotesque like disease ridden vag lol)
Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by TheLadyScorpio
tiz - It is not exactly going an extra mile, it is reaching that level of connectivity with another individual where silence itself would be but communication (of course whilst a concrete foundation of verbal communication should be but already in place, for this is the generous icing upon the cake).
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
I get what you're saying with this and its utterly a beautiful sentiment. My only concern is...
Do you find this an idea to dwell on or an expectation to be lived up to. There is a difference.click to expand
Neither an idea nor an expectation.
For one can not simply mentally will this through sheer brute power and force, it must be nurtured, felt, mulled over, gently yet curiously pried, it takes courage, it takes ones bravery, it demands fearlessness but it is after all a goal, an eternal pursuit on my part in hopes of bringing and giving my lover what they will never ever have again in this lifetime, as much as it is my doing such activities, it should also at the end of the day, on a whole be a journey for both of us, sometimes he may lead, other times I might, at times we might even veer off the intended pathway, to relax and see what lies upon what we do not expect, but nonetheless it should give us more knowledge and experience to keep moving forward. To the point where we could move through one another soul, freely without shame nor fear, yet still come out on the other side, whole as ourselves, though purer.
Posted by Libra911Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by Libra911
hmmm they are kinda soft core... Feby what do you think? I was thinking more s&m kind of avi LOL
Bring me pictures, whisper me your words, and I'll photoshop the up, no worries! Seriously ladies, be creative and have fun with this! That's the whole point of bragging rights 😄
(Note: My only request is you don't do something overly crazy grotesque like disease ridden vag lol)
ewww lol, what about disease ridden penis? hahaclick to expand
Tizzy, we are fucking doomed lol.
Posted by feby16aqua
I was just reminded of something that happened to me with my aries ex. This is a prime example of how I handle my feelings....I just want to know if this is weird.
So, you know, we got done doing our thing lol. hehe.
I say to him something like "oh baby you are just sooo good."
He goes on to say that he's heard it before and goes into more explicit detail.
I shut down. I go silent, I lay there and say nothing. I can feel he's gone to sleep...I feel paralyzed. I'm overcome with the feeling of get away from me, don't touch me...and I want to leave. I throw his body off of me. He wakes up but has no idea what's going on, and I don't say a word. I fall asleep.
Middle of the night...well, LOL stuff happens again. I don't mention anything about it.
Part of it is that I'm just very sensitive. Too sensitive sometimes that I don't know what's real and what's in my mind.
Eh it's not overly weird in my book. But I am of the opinion to allow you to feel what you feel and leave you to communicate it to me later when you're ready.
Feby - What do you mean by the top 5? In regards to over stepping personal boundaries, fantasies are not simple mental constructions within ones head but the ultimate intent behind them is reach near spheres of pleasure. The connection between the two lovers should by then reached, a close enough bond, fostering enough trust, to be able to sense any queasiness, unease, or shiftiness from the on set. The capability for the two, to be able to bound back from any set backs or mistake is just as highly important, for there will be many but these should only add to the experience, after all it is a journey, the two are in many ways continually learning about the other, whilst passing through one another. We should be just as able to make love and it is to make each other laugh, at each other, at ourselves, silliness must be a part of the greater picture to keep it from drowning!
tiz - No, your impression is rightly so. In fact, many individual choose to go down the pathway of pursuing enlightenment through a drug induced state. Although personally, I choose not to. Why?
Our minds exists as a very capable machine, we as individuals are merely using it at a 25% capacity rate on a daily basis, when we could in fact push it put further, exerting our full potential. We are able, to stimulate through various states of self to reach and tap into reserves that are otherwise dormant, we are able to induce certain hormonal releases which would bring us to a variety of levels of experience, all naturally of course.
That is what I aim to do, we have an abundant source, in ourselves. Why on earth would I put money forth upon an, at times dangerous recreational, or worse addiction to reach where I would like to go, I have it all in my head, in my own body and I shall use it so, as much as I can, to induce within myself, to be able to do what they do, minus the drugs, through sheer will, introspection and self-awareness, and a dash of external stimulation.
One would assume this to be but the highest state of self-containment/self-control within a Scorpio? Perhaps 🙂
Our minds exists as a very capable machine, we as individuals are merely using it at a 25% capacity rate on a daily basis, when we could in fact push it put further, exerting our full potential. We are able, to stimulate through various states of self to reach and tap into reserves that are otherwise dormant, we are able to induce certain hormonal releases which would bring us to a variety of levels of experience, all naturally of course.
That is what I aim to do, we have an abundant source, in ourselves. Why on earth would I put money forth upon an, at times dangerous recreational, or worse addiction to reach where I would like to go, I have it all in my head, in my own body and I shall use it so, as much as I can, to induce within myself, to be able to do what they do, minus the drugs, through sheer will, introspection and self-awareness, and a dash of external stimulation.
One would assume this to be but the highest state of self-containment/self-control within a Scorpio? Perhaps 🙂
Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by TheLadyScorpio
tiz - It is not exactly going an extra mile, it is reaching that level of connectivity with another individual where silence itself would be but communication (of course whilst a concrete foundation of verbal communication should be but already in place, for this is the generous icing upon the cake).
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
Scorpette, I need you to know I'm going to ask this question NOT out of condescension or arrogance. I haven't known you long enough to know the answer to this next question....
Have you ever been married or truly consumed by love?click to expand
Have yet to bite that bullet.
Truly consumed by love, yes.
More than once, different loves, were they each truer than the other? That can not be said for they were experiences each special on their own, more often than not they taught me more about myself than others, many lessons learned. Each one, brought me closer and closer to knowing, being aware of what I seek...but is it love that I am in search of, or the love that nurtures whom I truly am?
Since there is no defining definition. That, is still an answer in which one is on the journey of discovering.
Posted by tizianiPosted by CuriousLuv1
I do watch football and I can get a bit excited, but I keep it fairly cool. LOL At least when I am watching alone. With a group of people the energy from everyone else can boost mine and then I may get a bit crazy. Ha ha ha
Uh oh, you throw punches don't you? 😛click to expand
I am not violent Tizi!! Sorry for the delay. I am loud though. he he he
Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by CuriousLuv1
I do watch football and I can get a bit excited, but I keep it fairly cool. LOL At least when I am watching alone. With a group of people the energy from everyone else can boost mine and then I may get a bit crazy. Ha ha ha
Oh that begs this next question then, Cl1. Who's your team? 😄
The pre season is going to roll up on us shortly 🙂
Siren and I have a bit of a rivalry when it comes to this 😄click to expand
GO BIG BLUE!! GIANTS ALL DAY!
Posted by CuriousLuv1Posted by VirgoHeroPosted by CuriousLuv1
I do watch football and I can get a bit excited, but I keep it fairly cool. LOL At least when I am watching alone. With a group of people the energy from everyone else can boost mine and then I may get a bit crazy. Ha ha ha
Oh that begs this next question then, Cl1. Who's your team? 😄
The pre season is going to roll up on us shortly 🙂
Siren and I have a bit of a rivalry when it comes to this 😄
GO BIG BLUE!! GIANTS ALL DAY!click to expand
Oh you and I are going to get along swimmingly 😄
Posted by Mr. Defense
Scratch that, it sounds like you want love, but don't want to do what it takes to have a functioning relationship. sometimes too much love stimulation keeps a relationship from stabilizing. It sounds like you're interested in the love part but not the "work" part.
Ay, but we are not pursuing the general scope of a relationship here but we are only focusing on one facet of it.
Why of course a healthy communicative foundation must be laid before ANY of what I had shared thus far could even but pursue forward, without it, not even the mere fantasy in ones head would bring satisfaction. If you noticed, you will find, one mentions how one has to work, create, nurture and build together, that is effort being put in by both parties although my expression of my sentiments focuses more upon the feeling and sensational aspects whereas yours are more clear cut logical feeds, both correct in its form.
Feby - Are you speaking in regards to the overwhelming of feelings where the utter sensitivity of it all, actually almost seems painful?
Posted by TheLadyScorpioPosted by tiziani
Well, you know there is one thing Scorpio ladies certainly excel at in terms of archetypal zodiac traits to bring to the table and that when Sartori and yourself, TLS, were saying "it's a person's job to uncover all the hidden fantasies of their lover" and I can't deny it, that is admirable.
When it comes to the "dominatrix" setting of her unloading all the mental pressure off you having to initiative and she just makes it simple for you, that's something I've never really had to the max. Not even once. Which would be a regret for me if I went all life saying that.
It is our job to push ourselves and our lovers to the outer most boundaries, or even taking each other beyond them in expansion. There are one and a billion ways in which to satisfy our lover, we want to know, feel and breathe life into every single nuance until their kingdom of paradise belongs to what we have collectively created together. When we set ourselves out to do something, it must be done to perfection, till the very end where not a single stone is left unturned. It is also our duty to sense what our lover may want before they are even able to verbally express it, in fact that is a turn-on to think about it, such a connection and this does not always have to occur in the sexual sense as it were. We pretty much want ones soul, body, heart and mind, fully investigated, understood and fulfilled, that brings pleasure to our kind.click to expand
This is awesome and intense.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
tiz - It is not exactly going an extra mile, it is reaching that level of connectivity with another individual where silence itself would be but communication (of course whilst a concrete foundation of verbal communication should be but already in place, for this is the generous icing upon the cake).
We want to be capable of reaching our lovers psyche, through a sigh, a breathe, a look, a singular touch, a brushing of lips as so forth. Frankly, after the mind has but intertwined, the heart has been but laid forth, we want our souls to touch theirs, hugging it, absorbing each other within its glow, finishing each others' melodies naturally, in a singular song. That is when two lovers are at their purest forms, no words require nor any other form of hindrance to obstruct, to reach that very point is what we strive for, pure unadulterated euphoria and pleasure overcoming all his senses as it becomes one, as we become one.
That is divine heaven, a Holy Grail.
+100000000
VH - On another note, I do not believe nor subscribe to the thinking of an Ultimate Love for there exist no such thing. In one lifetime, we will experience many loves, each different, each a contributing part, each satisfying and highly enlightening. No one should be more than the other and they were, each and every one of them love, neither greater or lesser, simply are.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
VH - On another note, I do not believe nor subscribe to the thinking of an Ultimate Love for there exist no such thing. In one lifetime, we will experience many loves, each different, each a contributing part, each satisfying and highly enlightening. No one should be more than the other and they were, each and every one of them love, neither greater or lesser, simply are.
The thought I'm chewing on with the last few statements of yours is that they have to be at least ideas, otherwise they'd be gibberish. (*Points to the part of the conversation where I asked if these were ideas or expectations*). Ideas I love. We grow from ideas.
My only problem with it is if and when those ideas become expectations. One of the GREATEST flaws when it comes to matters of the heart is often times we DO NOT fall for the person for who they are, we fall for who we "want / expect" them to be.
In short, you're in love with the idea of a person, not the person them-self.
Case in point: Look at the frigging forum! 80% of the problems people post about are derived from the above sentiment.
This almost goes back to the conversation I was having with Leebs last night. It's about knowing the type of person that is going to make you happy and knowing the type of person you want to make happy. That comes from falling for the person, not the expectation.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
VH - On another note, I do not believe nor subscribe to the thinking of an Ultimate Love for there exist no such thing. In one lifetime, we will experience many loves, each different, each a contributing part, each satisfying and highly enlightening. No one should be more than the other and they were, each and every one of them love, neither greater or lesser, simply are.
Oh I'm cool with this but I question whether you're in love with the idea more than the idea of being in love with someone.
Posted by feby16aquaPosted by Mr. Defense
Scratch that, it sounds like you want love, but don't want to do what it takes to have a functioning relationship. sometimes too much love stimulation keeps a relationship from stabilizing. It sounds like you're interested in the love part but not the "work" part.
I'm not sure D. My first instinct is that you're wrong lol, but I will forgo that and think about what you're saying...click to expand
I personally think there is fear there. You don't strike me the type to not work at something, but you are fearful of may be letting go a certain control and feeling every bit of the emotions and ups and downs that could/would come about. However, with the right person to fall into exactly what TLS was talking about I think it it worth it. The issue is knowing if it is the right person. Although I think you can find that out early enough. We have to pay attention.
Posted by SirenSting
Oh LS, how I love your words, they are wonderful.
Yea, LS. PLEASE don't take this as OMG IM FIGHTING YOU. The moment you feel that, tell me and I will stop immediately.
Quite the contrary, I'm stuck on your words, thus my responses.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
VH - On another note, I do not believe nor subscribe to the thinking of an Ultimate Love for there exist no such thing. In one lifetime, we will experience many loves, each different, each a contributing part, each satisfying and highly enlightening. No one should be more than the other and they were, each and every one of them love, neither greater or lesser, simply are.
I think there is an ultimate love, but I think that we have to get past the "romanticism" of what we think is love. What you described before sounds more like the ultimate love where you are so connected or so many levels that not even words have to be spoken. Like you said it takes a lot of time with someone to get there. The problem is that so many of us want these things instantly, but do not want to really put in the work to attain it. Love is never ending. So you always have to work at it because the human in us will come out to disrupt it. Whether intentional or not.
Posted by tiziani
Does anyone really know that though? To me "knowing" something inevitably means being closed off. Since we close ourselves off to the unknown, which pretty much impedes love imo.
My godmother once told me "we always end up choosing to fall in love with the stupidest relationships" and that strikes me as one of the few truths that had stood the test of time. Not to say stupid is bad or good. Just that we are human.
I think that's just it and I hope the point I made substantiates that. Falling in love with the expectation causes that in my opinion.
I want to love a person, not an idea.
We are human, thus we love as humans. Not as a super-universal, ethereal being of pure light.
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