Arizona

I watched a video yesterday (long one) from HLN News a bunch of college kids NOT RIOTING..but gathering in the streets of Tuscon. No fires, no breaking of store windows, no violence at all. Lots of cheering in the streets. We all know what a Riot is. This label of "riot" imo is to cover up the brutality some of these kids endured. Makes me sick!

First video which went viral yesterday, is simply a girl walking by who gets plowed over hard.

Second video, guys arms are up..he's being pelleted in the mid section of his body with pepper bullets and then head butted and punched.

WTF?

I'm gonna try again...

..that was weird. Never mind.

Ah, the American law enforcement system hard at word. SS 2.0


Sieg mother treetrunkin' heil.

I hate Arizona

It looks like that girl was making a beeline towards that line of cops.

Not surprising that she was knocked back.

Dumb bitch.

There's an article online saying the cops were getting hit with beer bottles and firecrackers.

I meam....Why do that? That's just asking for all kinds of trouble

Why are they standing in the streets anyway? Stupid idiots.

Posted by GetMisted
University of Arizona students were rioting. It was all over ESPN. They did it after losing in the NCAA basketball tournament. Students at Dayton did so also. It's been all over sports radio and sports news.

So? Why does a basketball loss necessitate the need for rioting? Aren't these kids aware that you win some, you lose some? Teams lose every day. Teams lose championships everyday. Does this generation not know how to lose? Do they not know about good sportsmanship and being graceful with a loss?

I could understand celebrating a win. But, when a team loses it does not give them the right to riot.

Sounds like a testement as to why the "everybody gets a trophy" in little league mentality. It has ruined an entire generation.



I'm not saying the cops were right with what they did, but rioting over a basketball game? Really—?

To everyone here who thinks it's ok when someone is walking, or someone standing both unarmed to use brutal force...please move out of my country. Thank you.

....and yes, they were singing, chanting and having a final gathering at the end of a great season.

They weren't raping, shooting, looting, fighting or anything of that nature.

I watched 15 minutes straight of it..all I saw was police brutality.

Disclaimer: I work with cops...their comments? Those cops (in AZ) are fucked.

Posted by GetMisted
He was taunting the police. Who's to say he didn't have a weapon?

There is a way to approach an officer. Walking straight towards them, while yelling at them, while they are completely out numbered by drunk and agressive 20 year olds is not the way to do it.

They don't know if he's armed.
He's walking straight towards them.
They are out numbered.
The gathering is agressive and intoxicated.

He's an idiot plain and simple. You can exercise your rights in a non foolish manner. He did not do that.

ONE MAN..His arms were spread out as were his legs. That's assuming a position to be arrested as he was being pelted with pepper bullets..still assumed the position. They first used their helmet to head butt him with his hands STILL in the air and the same cop punched him twice in the face twice while the other three held him.

Since when is it legal to punch someone whose an idiot? If that were the case, I'd be cleaning the earth right now and getting away with it. You need to move out of my country.

Have any of you been to Tuscon? It's a college town. Their team made it to the semi-finals of "MARCH MADNESS"...the entire city plus the university students flooded every restaurant and bar downtown airing the game to watch it. There was NO VIOLENCE perpetrated by the cheering crowd.

Again...if you folks think being brutalized physically for cheering is ok, there's countries out there where you will fit right in.

Posted by GetMisted

Did you happen to see the damage caused that night? Or did you just stick with watching a 15 minute video? I guess is it's the latter.

The physical damages to the brutalized students? Yes...and I also read this:

"There was no major damage to the area—only a knocked-over street sign—and no injuries to police were reported. Three of the arrestees suffered minor injuries, and that doesn't count the girl at the center of the night's most controversial video."

http://deadspin.com/tucson-pd-will-investigate-its-use-of-force-in-putting-1555164766

Posted by GetMisted

Did you happen to see the damage caused that night? Or did you just stick with watching a 15 minute video? I guess is it's the latter.

I'm still answering to this FALSE statement ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I read all of the other stories.

Here's another article on the "damage" you aren't clear on..

Aftermath of Tucson belligerence: arrests but no injuries, little damage

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2014-03-30/aftermath-of-tucson-belligerence-arrests-but-no-injuries-little-damage


Ironically in Wisconsin the same thing took place...people cheering and charging out into the streets..and the POLICE WERE FINE WITH IT...

Interesting isn't it?

Thousands of students rushed onto State Street in Madison to celebrate Wisconsin??s 64-63 OT win over Arizona Saturday in the NCAA Tournament in Anaheim, Calif., a win that sent the Badgers to the Final Four.

There were no arrests or injuries and there didn't appear to be any property damage, Madison police captain Brian Ackert told WISC-TV. But a construction company will have to check its scaffolding over a sidewalk after fans climbed up it during Saturday night's celebration, Ackert said.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/03/30/wisconsin-victory-triggered-celebrations-riots/GXdzNXZFZAggUc5BdJgIuO/story.html

I suppose if I went up against you in survivor you'd be whining to me too eh? smh

lol...and the idiot forgets I work almost daily with the police smfh

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by SteveW

Posted by GetMisted
She is looking for a reason to get others to hate the police by using agenda based propaganda.

Typical LIB

What is your real problem with Letitb?

She wasn't looking to get others to hate the police and is not using agenda based propaganda. If anything, the police are the ones who are making themselves look bad. She is just bringing attention to it. If you ever sit back and observe Letitb, you will see a person who is concerned on a lot of social issues like child abuse. I don't agree with everything she posts but am like minded on her with preserving the US Constitution. You will consistently see me bringing constitutional rights in arguments as I believe in standing by the US Constitution. You and others may not like or enjoy it but your children and future generations will be glad for it and will also carry that on.

You can't stand up for your rights while drunk in public and taunting the police. It doesn't work like that.

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@GetMisted

What's your reasoning behind supporting the police in these matters?

Posted by Prince_Pisces
I don't mind police officers.

LOL

Posted by GetMisted

I do NOT support what the guy in the video did, which was approach the police while they are on he defensive. That is idiocracy and even if you don't like the police. If it were just him and it not a riot, the police would absolutely have a reason to use deadly force if needed.

I saw a man, unarmed, intentionally keeping his arms and legs spread in order to make that clear, slowly approaching and still maintaining a distance. He didn't make any overtly threatening gestures. He didn't rush anyone. He was still far enough away for the officers to take a running start at him. And it was one single individual against multiple armed and armored officers tackling him to the ground.

Maybe he was talking smack. Maybe he was being an ass, but those are hardly crimes and certainly not something befitting such a violent physical assault. I'm finding it incredibly difficult to reconcile the idea that he would somehow be deserving of "deadly force." That's highly excessive.

If the police were really that worried about damages and their personal safety there are better methods. They could have deployed tear gas if absolutely necessary.

Each video is a little over 1 minute ....


I find it very bizarre that there's an actual debate going on on who is right and who is wrong ..... when the reality is that we were shown a very specific scene to prompt a CERTAIN response.

On right on cue .... people respond, with a minutes worth of information.

:::: raises eyebrows ::::

In and of itself, taken for the 1 minutes worth, it appears to be something specific is happening ... it appears to be very one-sided.


Pretty much like all the relationship issues presented in here where the women are telling one side of their dramatic tale and calling it the gospel truth.


LIB ..... can you link the entire riot, and maybe a newspaper clipping so everyone here who wants to make a firm stand can do so with more than a smidgeon of biased information?

I guess I could go search for this ... I'll do that instead.


Thanks LIB for bringing the topic to us ... I'll go find out what happened in the entirety before forming an opinion.

Posted by P-Angel

LIB ..... can you link the entire riot, and maybe a newspaper clipping so everyone here who wants to make a firm stand can do so with more than a smidgeon of biased information?

+1

Posted by P-Angel

I guess I could go search for this ... I'll do that instead.


Thanks LIB for bringing the topic to us ... I'll go find out what happened in the entirety before forming an opinion.

I had a hard time posting the video I spoke of in the original post, it would not link. (hence the two posts after) Regardless...
As soon as it happened, I just happened to be flipping through channels and it was breaking news so they went live. For about 30 minutes they aired it, while doing so there were former prosecuting attorney's and defense attorney's on the air. (about 4 attorney's all together) all watching this live. ALL of them stated throughout the entire time the kids were doing nothing wrong for them to fire pepper bullets and when the tackle of the guy happened they could not believe it. Mind you, the same exact thing was going on in Wisconsin (the team that won) kids and bar patrons flooded streets..cops were cool with it.

The next day suddenly there's reports kids were throwing bottles etc...at the cops justifying the pepper bullets, and the brutal force used. THEN THEY CALL IT A RIOT...THERE ARE NO VIDEO'S OR PROOF OF THIS AT ALL..NONE. In FACT...top brass of all the police departments are STILL watching over 150 hours of videos and investigating the brutality aired. The entire time I wathced this live...and they kept panning the crowds with cameras...the kids were cheering, and having fun. Even after they were being shot at other than the 15 arrested out of many thousands..they did not retaliate. It's bullshit.

Perhaps when the police can actually produce video evidence of these kids throwing bottles and cans at them, (didn't see ANYTHING like that live at all) they can justify their actions. I'm guessing since it's so many days now..it's not happening.

Posted by P-Angel

LIB ..... can you link the entire riot, and maybe a newspaper clipping so everyone here who wants to make a firm stand can do so with more than a smidgeon of biased information?

You can right click on each video I posted and then properties and it will take you to where I got them. I never usually post video links.

Look up "Video's of Tuscon, Arizona college students throwing bottles and cans at Police"

You won't find one. Because if there were videos of the kids doing that..it would of been on every night for a week..guaranteed.

Posted by GetMisted
You also keep forgetting that this has happened in Tucson year after year. Damaged property. Many arrested.

Why do you keep leaving this out?

Page 2 and Page 3 links were provided

Posted by LetltB

Posted by GetMisted

Did you happen to see the damage caused that night? Or did you just stick with watching a 15 minute video? I guess is it's the latter.

The physical damages to the brutalized students? Yes...and I also read this:

"There was no major damage to the area—only a knocked-over street sign—and no injuries to police were reported. Three of the arrestees suffered minor injuries, and that doesn't count the girl at the center of the night's most controversial video."

http://deadspin.com/tucson-pd-will-investigate-its-use-of-force-in-putting-1555164766

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Posted by GetMisted
I'm going to start calling LIB, "FoxNews".

That's ok...yesterday you had me @ Nancy Grace

Now get the fuck out of my country and go suck on Mr. Canada's other thumb.

The fuck I just stumble into another survivor debate?? 😕

Steve & GetMisted go get a room already 😛

Posted by SteveW
http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2013/05/woody-harrelson-im-an-anarchist-165139.html>Woody Harrelson Im an anarchist

DETAILS: Do you want to get more involved in politics?
Woody Harrelson: No. I don't believe in politics. I'm an anarchist, I guess you could say. I think people could be just fine looking after themselves.

People who support all out anarchy are incredibly delusional.

—Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion — and who, therefore, in the next instant (when it is evident that the minority is the stronger) assume its opinion??_ while truth again reverts to a new minority.??

?? S??ren Kierkegaard

That is a pretty amazing quote.

Posted by TMV
That is a pretty amazing quote.

I love kierkegaard, just made a topic in his honor on the Taurus Board.

I need to make a quote thread for my soul..I have way too many scattered in my laptop.

I would personally be very interested to read a thread like that. 🙂