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Posted by ChimichangaPosted by brianafay
Idk mayne
I have a hard time putting it into words
I don’t typically buy into conspiracy theories in general, and especially not those which would be global in nature like this...but I feel highly suspicious for many reasons.
I understand the need to try to contain/limit the spread of the virus as to not overwhelm the medical system, but I just find it odd that out of the numerous coronavirus outbreaks we’ve had in recent history, this is the first time we make an effort to contain it by shutting down businesses, churches, events, etc
Frankly, I am just questioning the true motive here.
I admit I don’t have a better solution but I don’t think it’s wise to put hundreds of millions of people out of jobs and in many instances their life savings.
(If they thought there was a suicide epidemic before... 😬)
I am increasingly feeling like this is a test or meant to be a distraction.
This whole time I’ve been more concerned about that than the actual virus tbh
You're from Florida.
Y'all will believe anything.click to expand

Posted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by Koni
My question is why did we not have this response to any of the other previous pandemics. During the swine flu, from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases. I don't recall much panic at all back then.
Because even h1n1 has a much lower mortality rate:
"In the U.S., between April 2009 and April 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, with over 274,000 hospitalizations and nearly 12,500 deaths — that's a mortality rate of about 0.02% ."
With how it started spreading, still makes no sense why we would not have responded in the same way as now. We had no idea how many would have died eventually.
My guess is a powerplay between Bejing and Washington.
So there is more to this than just a lockdown to save all of our lives. That is the scary part
the Chinese decided to fail to warn the rest of the world about to cause economic damage.click to expand

Posted by ChimichangaPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by ChimichangaPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by Koni
My question is why did we not have this response to any of the other previous pandemics. During the swine flu, from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases. I don't recall much panic at all back then.
Because even h1n1 has a much lower mortality rate:
"In the U.S., between April 2009 and April 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, with over 274,000 hospitalizations and nearly 12,500 deaths — that's a mortality rate of about 0.02% ."
With how it started spreading, still makes no sense why we would not have responded in the same way as now. We had no idea how many would have died eventually.
My guess is a powerplay between Bejing and Washington.
So there is more to this than just a lockdown to save all of our lives. That is the scary part
Like I mentioned in Kraft's comment, I don't discount the idea that it's simply a naturally occurring virus that, given proper international cooperation would be contained, the Chinese decided to fail to warn the rest of the world about to cause economic damage.
Given the spread rate that occurred in NYC, comp it Wuhan, I’d say it started in October. Months before they announced it.
It's likely. Probably came in from Europe.
No clue. I know there were cases in Cali back in November. Most Europeans are in Mexico during the winter months. I’d think that if the virus started in Europe, Mexico would’ve been hammered
Mexican food kills the virus.click to expand

Posted by brianafayPosted by ChimichangaPosted by brianafay
Idk mayne
I have a hard time putting it into words
I don’t typically buy into conspiracy theories in general, and especially not those which would be global in nature like this...but I feel highly suspicious for many reasons.
I understand the need to try to contain/limit the spread of the virus as to not overwhelm the medical system, but I just find it odd that out of the numerous coronavirus outbreaks we’ve had in recent history, this is the first time we make an effort to contain it by shutting down businesses, churches, events, etc
Frankly, I am just questioning the true motive here.
I admit I don’t have a better solution but I don’t think it’s wise to put hundreds of millions of people out of jobs and in many instances their life savings.
(If they thought there was a suicide epidemic before... 😬)
I am increasingly feeling like this is a test or meant to be a distraction.
This whole time I’ve been more concerned about that than the actual virus tbh
You're from Florida.
Y'all will believe anything.
That’s fair
But rule followers we are not apparentlyclick to expand

Posted by ChimichangaPosted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by Koni
My question is why did we not have this response to any of the other previous pandemics. During the swine flu, from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases. I don't recall much panic at all back then.
Because even h1n1 has a much lower mortality rate:
"In the U.S., between April 2009 and April 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, with over 274,000 hospitalizations and nearly 12,500 deaths — that's a mortality rate of about 0.02% ."
With how it started spreading, still makes no sense why we would not have responded in the same way as now. We had no idea how many would have died eventually.
My guess is a powerplay between Bejing and Washington.
So there is more to this than just a lockdown to save all of our lives. That is the scary part
the Chinese decided to fail to warn the rest of the world about to cause economic damage.
Debatable.
Nah. Chinese definitely tried to cover it up.
But then the WHO wiffed on strike 2, then our pandemic monitoring wiffed on strike 3.
Knowing the PRC, it's a tactic I can see them engaged in.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by Koni
My question is why did we not have this response to any of the other previous pandemics. During the swine flu, from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases. I don't recall much panic at all back then.
Because even h1n1 has a much lower mortality rate:
"In the U.S., between April 2009 and April 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, with over 274,000 hospitalizations and nearly 12,500 deaths — that's a mortality rate of about 0.02% ."
With how it started spreading, still makes no sense why we would not have responded in the same way as now. We had no idea how many would have died eventually.
My guess is a powerplay between Bejing and Washington.
So there is more to this than just a lockdown to save all of our lives. That is the scary part
the Chinese decided to fail to warn the rest of the world about to cause economic damage.
Debatable.
Nah. Chinese definitely tried to cover it up.
But then the WHO wiffed on strike 2, then our pandemic monitoring wiffed on strike 3.
Knowing the PRC, it's a tactic I can see them engaged in.
Did you think they knew what they were dealing with before December 31? If so, is there anything to support that definitively?click to expand

Posted by Romz-Posted by brianafayPosted by ChimichangaPosted by brianafay
Idk mayne
I have a hard time putting it into words
I don’t typically buy into conspiracy theories in general, and especially not those which would be global in nature like this...but I feel highly suspicious for many reasons.
I understand the need to try to contain/limit the spread of the virus as to not overwhelm the medical system, but I just find it odd that out of the numerous coronavirus outbreaks we’ve had in recent history, this is the first time we make an effort to contain it by shutting down businesses, churches, events, etc
Frankly, I am just questioning the true motive here.
I admit I don’t have a better solution but I don’t think it’s wise to put hundreds of millions of people out of jobs and in many instances their life savings.
(If they thought there was a suicide epidemic before... 😬)
I am increasingly feeling like this is a test or meant to be a distraction.
This whole time I’ve been more concerned about that than the actual virus tbh
You're from Florida.
Y'all will believe anything.
That’s fair
But rule followers we are not apparently
I live in Alberta Canada and the entire province is completely populated by rule followers.
It’s so strict we even have city vehicles and police monitoring areas to ensure no groups are formed, people are talking to one another 2m apart etc. If you’re at a store you must remain 2m apart in the store and at the checkout and there’s unwritten rules that you must 100% ......it’s endless. It’s complete compliance.
Obviously there are little assholes that sneak around and do shit privately in their homes but even that is dropping because people will rat you out 🐀
This is the other spectrum of compliance and I tell you now, it’s lonely. I’m lonely 😞 and I miss my family and friends. I miss people and I don’t even like people. I miss my nail lady 😔.click to expand

Posted by ChimichangaPosted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by Koni
My question is why did we not have this response to any of the other previous pandemics. During the swine flu, from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases. I don't recall much panic at all back then.
Because even h1n1 has a much lower mortality rate:
"In the U.S., between April 2009 and April 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, with over 274,000 hospitalizations and nearly 12,500 deaths — that's a mortality rate of about 0.02% ."
With how it started spreading, still makes no sense why we would not have responded in the same way as now. We had no idea how many would have died eventually.
My guess is a powerplay between Bejing and Washington.
So there is more to this than just a lockdown to save all of our lives. That is the scary part
the Chinese decided to fail to warn the rest of the world about to cause economic damage.
Debatable.
Nah. Chinese definitely tried to cover it up.
But then the WHO wiffed on strike 2, then our pandemic monitoring wiffed on strike 3.
Knowing the PRC, it's a tactic I can see them engaged in.
Did you think they knew what they were dealing with before December 31? If so, is there anything to support that definitively?
The December 31st date is irrelevant.
What is relevant is that they insisted there was no human to human contact into at least mid January. That's plenty of time to let it spread.
That's only publicly available information and information available from the WHO. We'll never actually know because we didn't have the resources on the ground in China. It could have started in June there for all we know.click to expand

Posted by Romz-Posted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by _DazedPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by KoniPosted by ChimichangaPosted by Koni
My question is why did we not have this response to any of the other previous pandemics. During the swine flu, from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases. I don't recall much panic at all back then.
Because even h1n1 has a much lower mortality rate:
"In the U.S., between April 2009 and April 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases of swine flu, with over 274,000 hospitalizations and nearly 12,500 deaths — that's a mortality rate of about 0.02% ."
With how it started spreading, still makes no sense why we would not have responded in the same way as now. We had no idea how many would have died eventually.
My guess is a powerplay between Bejing and Washington.
So there is more to this than just a lockdown to save all of our lives. That is the scary part
the Chinese decided to fail to warn the rest of the world about to cause economic damage.
Debatable.
Nah. Chinese definitely tried to cover it up.
But then the WHO wiffed on strike 2, then our pandemic monitoring wiffed on strike 3.
Knowing the PRC, it's a tactic I can see them engaged in.
Did you think they knew what they were dealing with before December 31? If so, is there anything to support that definitively?
Everyone I know I’m HC was talking about a deadly flu outbreak in October and November. Our healthcare here was ramped up to respond to the flu and were ready.
I got the worst flu of my life in December. I physically told the Virgo that I was dying one morning and he thought I was being dramatic but I’d spent 7 day’s coughing up mucous and my fever wasn’t breaking and I was tired. I told him I couldn’t do it anymore and I just wanted to sleep. So he scooped me up and brought me to the hospital.
I tested negative for the flu and strep. Not to mention I had strep for the first time in Nov. They wouldn’t tell me what I tested positive for.
When I talked to friends of mine they all said “we’re dealing with something new...it’s vicious” and everyone at work that I knew who got sick was returning to work 3-4 weeks later and saying how skinny they got and how much pain they were in with their flu.
I don’t have fact or proof except for knowing a lot of people in HC. The virus that went around this winter was intense and quick and involved cold/flu symptoms.
It could have been just another flu like virus but I’ve handled those before in a few days and bumped through and got better like usual.
This literally felt like it nearly killed me. I prayed ffs lol 😂click to expand

Posted by brianafayPosted by Romz-Posted by brianafayPosted by ChimichangaPosted by brianafay
Idk mayne
I have a hard time putting it into words
I don’t typically buy into conspiracy theories in general, and especially not those which would be global in nature like this...but I feel highly suspicious for many reasons.
I understand the need to try to contain/limit the spread of the virus as to not overwhelm the medical system, but I just find it odd that out of the numerous coronavirus outbreaks we’ve had in recent history, this is the first time we make an effort to contain it by shutting down businesses, churches, events, etc
Frankly, I am just questioning the true motive here.
I admit I don’t have a better solution but I don’t think it’s wise to put hundreds of millions of people out of jobs and in many instances their life savings.
(If they thought there was a suicide epidemic before... 😬)
I am increasingly feeling like this is a test or meant to be a distraction.
This whole time I’ve been more concerned about that than the actual virus tbh
You're from Florida.
Y'all will believe anything.
That’s fair
But rule followers we are not apparently
I live in Alberta Canada and the entire province is completely populated by rule followers.
It’s so strict we even have city vehicles and police monitoring areas to ensure no groups are formed, people are talking to one another 2m apart etc. If you’re at a store you must remain 2m apart in the store and at the checkout and there’s unwritten rules that you must 100% ......it’s endless. It’s complete compliance.
Obviously there are little assholes that sneak around and do shit privately in their homes but even that is dropping because people will rat you out 🐀
This is the other spectrum of compliance and I tell you now, it’s lonely. I’m lonely 😞 and I miss my family and friends. I miss people and I don’t even like people. I miss my nail lady 😔.
That’s just fuckin crazy to me !
I’m probably just a spoiled little American, but I don’t like that at all. I don’t like being told I can’t leave my house when I didn’t commit a crime. Makes me relate to those YOU AINT TAKING MY GUNS types 😫 and nobody wanna relate to those types lolclick to expand


Posted by MyStarsShine
I heard someone say staying home, social distancing, sanitizing etc is a true gesture of love for our fellow human beings.
I’m incensed that people think they’re above this especially when we are being bombarded by the health systems (and rightly so) to help them by being selfless and taking responsibility
❤️

Posted by Logger
To a great degree, I do agree. Look at the statistics for a bad flu year. They are even worse, but we didn't keep scorecards for Ebola, or SARS when that idiot Obama was president. Nobody asked that moron a thing about what he was doing.
But today, we shut down the entire country for this crap. Because people over 65 are dying because of their preexisting conditions that were exacerbated by Covid. Everybody has to go sometime.
There's 20 people in an overflow hospital in NY.....twenty! We put a hospital ship off shore and there's nobody in it.
Somebody pushed a MAJOR panic button on this one, and I know what it is.

Posted by jeanePosted by MyStarsShine
I heard someone say staying home, social distancing, sanitizing etc is a true gesture of love for our fellow human beings.
I’m incensed that people think they’re above this especially when we are being bombarded by the health systems (and rightly so) to help them by being selfless and taking responsibility
❤️
i saw one interview with a lady in her car who had just come from church.
the reporter asked her if she felt any responsibility for coming out and potentially infecting others.
she said "i have no fear because i am washed in jesus' blood."
the reporter repeated his question about the risk to other people
she said "i'm not worried. i am washed in jesus' blood."
some people just can't hear the idea that they maybe putting others at risk through their behaviour.
i slightly paraphrased her. here is the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246783031609888769<div class="bqfade">click to expand


Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by jeanePosted by MyStarsShine
I heard someone say staying home, social distancing, sanitizing etc is a true gesture of love for our fellow human beings.
I’m incensed that people think they’re above this especially when we are being bombarded by the health systems (and rightly so) to help them by being selfless and taking responsibility
❤️
i saw one interview with a lady in her car who had just come from church.
the reporter asked her if she felt any responsibility for coming out and potentially infecting others.
she said "i have no fear because i am washed in jesus' blood."
the reporter repeated his question about the risk to other people
she said "i'm not worried. i am washed in jesus' blood."
some people just can't hear the idea that they maybe putting others at risk through their behaviour.
i slightly paraphrased her. here is the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246783031609888769
Wow what a nut job .... whatever happened to “love thy neighbour”
That takes selfishness to a new level and she probably thinks of herself as a “true Christian”
😬click to expand

Posted by PhoenixStormPosted by jeanePosted by MyStarsShine
I heard someone say staying home, social distancing, sanitizing etc is a true gesture of love for our fellow human beings.
I’m incensed that people think they’re above this especially when we are being bombarded by the health systems (and rightly so) to help them by being selfless and taking responsibility
❤️
i saw one interview with a lady in her car who had just come from church.
the reporter asked her if she felt any responsibility for coming out and potentially infecting others.
she said "i have no fear because i am washed in jesus' blood."
the reporter repeated his question about the risk to other people
she said "i'm not worried. i am washed in jesus' blood."
some people just can't hear the idea that they maybe putting others at risk through their behaviour.
i slightly paraphrased her. here is the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246783031609888769
My sister is kind of like this lady. I love my sister and I have faith too..
But like I told her, just like you know better than to go have a bunch of unprotected sex under the assumption that you’re somehow “protected” or immune from contracting STDs because of your faith, it’s just not very smart to not heed the advice of the experts and make reckless decisions. 🤷♀️click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by Logger
To a great degree, I do agree. Look at the statistics for a bad flu year. They are even worse, but we didn't keep scorecards for Ebola, or SARS when that idiot Obama was president. Nobody asked that moron a thing about what he was doing.
But today, we shut down the entire country for this crap. Because people over 65 are dying because of their preexisting conditions that were exacerbated by Covid. Everybody has to go sometime.
There's 20 people in an overflow hospital in NY.....twenty! We put a hospital ship off shore and there's nobody in it.
Somebody pushed a MAJOR panic button on this one, and I know what it is.
Trump pushed the panic button.
Could you imagine if he hadn’t?click to expand

Posted by KoniPosted by AnomalousPosted by PhoenixStormPosted by Anomalous
I have conflicting views. Sue me 🤷🏾♂️
Shit.
Don’t you live in NY or nearby? Do you know anyone that has it? I know NY has been hit hard. I have a friend in NYC that has been messaging me lately, he has lost 3 loved ones in 1 week to COVID. He’s having trouble coping and is depressed because of losing people back to back without having time to mourn. I don’t even know what to say to him half the time ☹️💔
No I don't live in NY. Yes I am close by. No I don't know anyone who's died because of it. Even when someone did catch it, from what I hear they're doing fine now. The reason NY is being hit so hard is because of the amount of people bunched up so closely together in one city. Its not the only place like that and they're feeling the same effects as well I'm sure.
To be completely honest with you though, I'm finding it really hard for me to be surprised by any of this. I knew this shit would go down 10 years ago 🤷🏾♂️
Nonetheless, I don't think this particular epidemic is the end all of society. This is more of a test.
Why is India not being completely ravaged by this? Those people are practically piled on top of each other.click to expand

Posted by jeanePosted by MyStarsShinePosted by jeanePosted by MyStarsShine
I heard someone say staying home, social distancing, sanitizing etc is a true gesture of love for our fellow human beings.
I’m incensed that people think they’re above this especially when we are being bombarded by the health systems (and rightly so) to help them by being selfless and taking responsibility
❤️
i saw one interview with a lady in her car who had just come from church.
the reporter asked her if she felt any responsibility for coming out and potentially infecting others.
she said "i have no fear because i am washed in jesus' blood."
the reporter repeated his question about the risk to other people
she said "i'm not worried. i am washed in jesus' blood."
some people just can't hear the idea that they maybe putting others at risk through their behaviour.
i slightly paraphrased her. here is the video.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1246783031609888769
Wow what a nut job .... whatever happened to “love thy neighbour”
That takes selfishness to a new level and she probably thinks of herself as a “true Christian”
😬
i just don't know how you combat that sort of wilful ignorance. it leaves me speechless.click to expand

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