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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
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from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php
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Exactly. It really is quite messed up. You just have to realize these people who think they are woke are living in an isolated bubble in a sea of people who are actually awake. I truly feel bad for the woke mind. They can only things with a one sided mind, and refuse to see how it effects everyone as a whole.
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exactly. extremists on both sides are ruining it for everyone.
no sane, rational gay/bi/lesbian/trans/straight person wants to be associated with whatever tf this buffoonery/mental illness is 😅:


i mean, is this what an “all inclusive, loving society” looks like ? 😅

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It's literally people being unhinged for no reason. The person screaming is crazy, and the person recording isn't much better. The person recording is like "Oh wow a dumpster fire. Wonder what would happen if I threw more gasoline on it?"

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the guy probably recorded it so he can use the footage as evidence if he gets attacked or something 😂

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Posted by serenidad
i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
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from the article you posted:

*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.

On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.

And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********


well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/

like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php

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https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education

Does this sound like grooming? Sexualizing 7 year old children? Granted it's 2 years old now. You can open the curriculum outline from some links in there as well.

Drag show was a HIGH SCHOOL meaning what, like 14-18 years olds? Something like that? I probably agree that if mandatory there should be an option for it for parents and they should be notified well ahead. I also don't think it's that big of a deal.

“The big picture is seeing how this is grooming the little kids,” a parent named Moises said. “You’re exposing them to this, or allowing them to be exposed to this, to where now they’re going to be desensitized to allow adults to get close to them and abuse them.” ----- this is just dumb. I knew plenty of kids that knew they liked same-sex by like 7th grade. Which is like maybe 12/13 years old. This also begs like.. so.. hetero adults can't get close to children and abuse them? We know that's blatantly false. It's so fucking stupid.

Carry more water tho I guess lol

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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
click to expand

From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
click to expand

from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php
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Exactly. It really is quite messed up. You just have to realize these people who think they are woke are living in an isolated bubble in a sea of people who are actually awake. I truly feel bad for the woke mind. They can only things with a one sided mind, and refuse to see how it effects everyone as a whole.
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exactly. extremists on both sides are ruining it for everyone.

no sane, rational gay/bi/lesbian/trans/straight person wants to be associated with whatever tf this buffoonery/mental illness is 😅:

Bro you coulda posted the whole damn video.



I'm not saying her reaction is the best but another person says that everyone is sick of it and if I heard right, that they've called the cops before on him and are doing it/will do it again. It doesn't sound like it's completely unprovoked, though I'm pretty sure a person has a right to do that where they want? Even if it's annoying as fuck.

Do you see why it's so fucking aggravating trying to talk with people sometimes? It's so easy for someone to just throw something out there and say something or a cropped clip or whatever and no research gets done into it. It just gets believed. I have to actually sit here and watch videos and read to refute things and it's way more work. Then I post sources and they're not believed or things that aren't true in entirety are skewed. Like the sterility thing. It can lead to issues, but it doesn't mean everyone is sterilized. I get in my car and drive and have a chance to die in that but it doesn't mean that I'm going to. And then sexualizing 7 year olds when it sounds like it's just talking about different "kinds" of families all through history with contributions and things like that so they can recognize themselves and other family dynamics and people exist and contribute to society. Like not even a focused "health" section, it's talking about HISTORY.

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I’m really struggling with the how our society combines Transgender issues and polices with Gay issues and polices. So, I would like to talk my thoughts out with anyone willing to discuss this with me respectfully.
I could never really validate the transgender issue, because gender has little value to me. I see gender as a mechanism in the systems of life to keep it advancing.
What we consider male vs female in humanity, mostly has to do with cultural constructs. I will agree most of the time it is just an exaggeration of biology. Women are built with bigger hips, so we walk with a sway naturally, our faces flush during arousal so we put makeup on to mimic those experiences. Which I think really comes down to a matting competition in some ways.
I do believe that masculine and femineity is a spectrum. Some of it is natural based on or biology and some of it is our experience and conditioning. But different cultures have valued different feminine and masculine traits, which become the cultural norm for them.
But for someone to say, I feel like the opposite gender makes no sense to me. I do not “feel” like a woman, I have the body of a woman, I have the cultural experience and conditioning of a woman. But that is all superficial and has little do with how I feel as a human being.
But that’s all gender is to me, the body (genitalia/hormones) and experience/conditioning. So, if a person does not have the body or conditioning of gender, how do they feel that they are that gender?
I agree that we all take on an identity, we create and nurture an ego which is vital to participate in the shared experience in this world. And fuck it if I care what identity you want to take on, and what experiences you want to have while you are on this earth. But I don’t like how some parts of our culture are promoting or encouraging this, because I think this is affecting some of the most vulnerable people.
I do not mean this as an insult, but when I look at the individual Trans experience, it seems to always be a response to trauma, or fetishization.
I see men and women who don’t always fit, the gender roles of the culture, have a lot of negative experiences, and that trauma can result in the rejection of what people see as their deficiency in that gender defined by the culture.
And honestly when I see Transgender women oversexualizing themselves 24/7, I do see it as a fetishization of women, and find it insulting. But I see this more as sexuality vs identity. If that makes sense?
Anyways these are my thoughts when it comes to gender and western culture, I would love a discussion to understand different POV further.

Reading the first page of this thread was gross.

Throught history there have been gay and lesbian people. As well as those who find both attatrctive sexually. It's natural.

I believe this scares some people because weaker people question that possibilty for themselves.

Transgender is even rarer and new. Use to just be cross dressing and the like. Now those who feel strongly enough can transform the external.

The over politicalsization and publicity is blowing this all out of perportion. I personally have met 2 who you wouldn't know unless someone told you. They fit as a woman mind body and soul. Thats a percent of a percent population wise. So why are people losingbthier fucking minds over this. If that rarity is so much a issue go play the lottery every weak. Sometimes it is just mental health, not hurting yourself or others leave them alone.

Kids naturally expertment and explore different things growing up. They are finding themselves. They play pretend as naturally as we breath. What comes natural/fits the indivisual they will keep and will change as they better understand the world and themeelves.



The over dramatization of the topic has opened the door for the young to explore it in unhealthy ways which matches the tone of the discussion.

Really fucking unhealthy, ignorant and toxic.

None of the LGBTQ issues are complex or even complicated. It's a discription of gender and sexuality.

Humans are strange wonderfully complex creatures but.... people are stupid.

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This is the most sane and rational post in the entire thread so far. Good job, sir.

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Posted by serenidad
i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
click to expand

whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
click to expand

from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php
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Exactly. It really is quite messed up. You just have to realize these people who think they are woke are living in an isolated bubble in a sea of people who are actually awake. I truly feel bad for the woke mind. They can only things with a one sided mind, and refuse to see how it effects everyone as a whole.
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exactly. extremists on both sides are ruining it for everyone.
no sane, rational gay/bi/lesbian/trans/straight person wants to be associated with whatever tf this buffoonery/mental illness is 😅:


i mean, is this what an “all inclusive, loving society” looks like ? 😅

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Bro you coulda posted the whole damn video.

i saw the longer version too. the dude filming was apparently some religious dude who was preaching about god. but what i’m saying is, if these liberals want freedom of speech and an all inclusive society, why are they allowed to talk/say whatever they wanna and he’s not? (he = the religious dude). he’s not hurting anyone by simply preaching on a street corner. i mean i don’t even believe in god but this religious dude has a right to express his opinions too if these wokies have a right to express theirs. :/

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Posted by serenidad
i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
click to expand

whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
click to expand

From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
click to expand

from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php
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Exactly. It really is quite messed up. You just have to realize these people who think they are woke are living in an isolated bubble in a sea of people who are actually awake. I truly feel bad for the woke mind. They can only things with a one sided mind, and refuse to see how it effects everyone as a whole.
click to expand

exactly. extremists on both sides are ruining it for everyone.
no sane, rational gay/bi/lesbian/trans/straight person wants to be associated with whatever tf this buffoonery/mental illness is 😅:


i mean, is this what an “all inclusive, loving society” looks like ? 😅
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Bro you coulda posted the whole damn video.

I'm not saying her reaction is the best but another person says that everyone is sick of it and if I heard right, that they've called the cops before on him and are doing it/will do it again. It doesn't sound like it's completely unprovoked, though I'm pretty sure a person has a right to do that where they want? Even if it's annoying as fuck.

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i saw the longer version too. the dude filming was apparently some religious dude who was preaching about god. but what i’m saying is, if these liberals want freedom of speech and an all inclusive society, why are they allowed to talk/say whatever they wanna and he’s not? (he = the religious dude). he’s not hurting anyone by simply preaching on a street corner. i mean i don’t even believe in god but this religious dude has a right to express his opinions too if these wokies have a right to express theirs. :/

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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
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from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php
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Exactly. It really is quite messed up. You just have to realize these people who think they are woke are living in an isolated bubble in a sea of people who are actually awake. I truly feel bad for the woke mind. They can only things with a one sided mind, and refuse to see how it effects everyone as a whole.
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exactly. extremists on both sides are ruining it for everyone.
no sane, rational gay/bi/lesbian/trans/straight person wants to be associated with whatever tf this buffoonery/mental illness is 😅:


i mean, is this what an “all inclusive, loving society” looks like ? 😅
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Bro you coulda posted the whole damn video.

I'm not saying her reaction is the best but another person says that everyone is sick of it and if I heard right, that they've called the cops before on him and are doing it/will do it again. It doesn't sound like it's completely unprovoked, though I'm pretty sure a person has a right to do that where they want? Even if it's annoying as fuck.

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i saw the longer version too. the dude filming was apparently some religious dude who was preaching about god. but what i’m saying is, if these liberals want freedom of speech and an all inclusive society, why are they allowed to talk/say whatever they wanna and he’s not? (he = the religious dude). he’s not hurting anyone by simply preaching on a street corner. i mean i don’t even believe in god but this religious dude has a right to express his opinions too if these wokies have a right to express theirs. :/

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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
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from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php
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Exactly. It really is quite messed up. You just have to realize these people who think they are woke are living in an isolated bubble in a sea of people who are actually awake. I truly feel bad for the woke mind. They can only things with a one sided mind, and refuse to see how it effects everyone as a whole.
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exactly. extremists on both sides are ruining it for everyone.
no sane, rational gay/bi/lesbian/trans/straight person wants to be associated with whatever tf this buffoonery/mental illness is 😅:


i mean, is this what an “all inclusive, loving society” looks like ? 😅
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Bro you coulda posted the whole damn video.

I'm not saying her reaction is the best but another person says that everyone is sick of it and if I heard right, that they've called the cops before on him and are doing it/will do it again. It doesn't sound like it's completely unprovoked, though I'm pretty sure a person has a right to do that where they want? Even if it's annoying as fuck.
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i saw the longer version too. the dude filming was apparently some religious dude who was preaching about god. but what i’m saying is, if these liberals want freedom of speech and an all inclusive society, why are they allowed to talk/say whatever they wanna and he’s not? (he = the religious dude). he’s not hurting anyone by simply preaching on a street corner. i mean i don’t even believe in god but this religious dude has a right to express his opinions too if these wokies have a right to express theirs. :/
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which part? i don’t believe i said anything crazy. :/

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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
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from the article you posted:

*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.

On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.

And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********


well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/

like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php

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Okay so like you took the quotes from the article that I posted

"well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff?"

This is part of what you posted in response. I linked curriculum, which is subject to local idea of how to do it but the overall is not "sexualizing 7 year olds." It's talking about people in history and their families and stuff. So, there may have been localized issues out there but there is no "sexualizing 7 year olds" in the grand scheme of the curriculum.

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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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From 2022
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/11/1096623939/accusations-grooming-political-attack-homophobic-origins
"intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t" ----- even if we don't widen that statement and keep it to strictly knowing who would hurt a child, it's false.
https://www.d2l.org/education/5-steps/step-1/
30% of children are abused by family members.
As many as 60% are abused by people the family trusts.
We do not know every person that will hurt someone. "I never would have thought they'd be this type of person" is a common sentiment.
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from the article you posted:
*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********

well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/
like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php

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Okay so like you took the quotes from the article that I posted

"well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff?"

This is part of what you posted in response. I linked curriculum, which is subject to local idea of how to do it but the overall is not "sexualizing 7 year olds." It's talking about people in history and their families and stuff. So, there may have been localized issues out there but there is no "sexualizing 7 year olds" in the grand scheme of the curriculum.

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oh you’re talking about this article right here?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education

well, i don’t really think showing 3rd graders (7-8 yr olds?) gay pride videos is appropriate but that’s just my opinion.

i can also see how some concerned parents might interpret the teacher’s action as “bringing the topic of sexuality into a 3rd grade classroom”.

even if that wasn’t the teacher’s intention. and whether she followed local/state guidelines or not isn’t the issue for these parents.

:/

also, if you search “detransitioning” on YouTube, you’ll come across many videos/interviews of trans people who regret transitioning as kids and are now warning against minors transitioning. always two sides to a coin.

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i raised this exact issue here a year ago and a few liberals came for my neck 😅
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/miscellaneous/something-unsettling-about-pushing-lgbtq-on-kids--15592223/
at this point, i don’t even openly talk about the trans issue. i don’t wanna get bitched at by wokies 😅
i’m just quietly hoping more and more people wake up and see how ridiculous and harmful things have gotten. if enough people become suspicious and say no, this madness will cease to continue.
things such as….
doctors/elites/big pharma trying to get rich off of gender affirming care/procedures on minors, dudes dressed up as women throwing tantrums at restaurants for being called “sir”, mediocre dudes in sports who used to rank 462nd in men’s division now ranking 1st in women’s division, woke teachers irresponsibly telling kids they can be whatever gender they wanna be, people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions, the whole they/them nonsense, people identifying as pretty much anything under the sun including animals/objects and trying to drag mentally stable people into it by throwing tantrums when people refuse to participate in their delusions etc
level headed folks of the LGBT community don’t wanna be associated with or lumped together with the above nonsense. 😅 and if we dare to even say anything about it, these wokies will immediately go into victim mode.😅
they make even regular gay dudes like me look like homophobic straight men from the deep south or something 😂

people who already had pedophile tendencies now having an excuse to openly assault without much repercussions ----- this is the kinda fear mongering they do over GAY PEOPLE LIKE YOU lol. They think YOURE a groomer.
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whoever “they” are, i haven’t met them. *shrug* intelligent people can easily tell the difference between who is really a danger to society and who isn’t. for example, conservatives love level headed trans people like blaire white because she stands for common sense. people are only afraid of (or more like disturbed) by the irrational gay/trans/non binary people who are like loose cannons or who act in questionable ways.
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I have a good friend who is a gay conservative. It seems like a lot of gay folks are conservative these days. He's been ran off every Social Media platform. He has had his business almost destroyed. The whole time it's wyts who are telling him how oppressed and hated he is by his tribe, while they attempt to destroy his entire life because of his ttibe. He says being a gay conservative these days must be similar to being a Jew in Hitlers Germany. He's been doxxed, he's had it rough.

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so sorry about your friend having to endure all that abuse/BS 😢

i said something similar in my previous post but i just find it IRONIC how all these liberals who are supposed to be fighting for and encouraging an all inclusive, loving society where freedom of speech is respected YET they are the ones trying to shut people up who don’t agree with them 😅 lol

hopefully the tide will turn soon and your friend will feel safe again. 🙏

Okay so like you took the quotes from the article that I posted
"well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff?"
This is part of what you posted in response. I linked curriculum, which is subject to local idea of how to do it but the overall is not "sexualizing 7 year olds." It's talking about people in history and their families and stuff. So, there may have been localized issues out there but there is no "sexualizing 7 year olds" in the grand scheme of the curriculum.
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oh you’re talking about this article right here?

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education

well, i don’t really think showing 3rd graders (7-8 yr olds?) gay pride videos is appropriate but that’s just my opinion.

i can also see how some concerned parents might interpret the teacher’s action as “bringing the topic of sexuality into a 3rd grade classroom”.

even if that wasn’t the teacher’s intention. and whether she followed local/state guidelines or not isn’t the issue for these parents.

:/

also, if you search “detransitioning” on YouTube, you’ll come across many videos/interviews of trans people who regret transitioning as kids and are now warning against minors transitioning. always two sides to a coin.

Hold on, first it was the article before that, I believe, not checking right now, getting tired of scrolling back and forth lol. And a singular teacher or small amount that are showing age inappropriate things and receiving backlash is different than "they're trying to push this on kids." Can you link me them showing gay pride videos to 3rd graders? The systematic idea is NOT that. "and whether she followed local/state guidelines or not isn’t the issue for these parents. " It needs to be kept in mind. People are being mis/disinformed and need to be informed.

And when you linked the drag show, that is NOT in front of 7-8 year olds, though my opinion still remains on it, what I said before.

"from the article you posted:

*********On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.

On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.

And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."*********



well, i’m not entirely sure but i’m guessing the teachers who were being accused of these things were caught talking to little kids about gender identity and sexuality and stuff? in that case, i’m sorry but i don’t really blame the parents for being upset. teachers should just teach the regular school curriculum and maybe basic morality and leave gender conversations to the parents. if a kid asks, the teacher can let the parent know first and let the parent decide what they wanna do/what they wanna tell their kids. then all of this might’ve been avoided? :/

like, when i see news like this, “parents livid over california school’s mandatory drag show” and many other news like this, i can sorta sympathize with the parents : https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/california-school-drag-show-causes-outrage-17832300.php" ----- this is what you posted, those quotes from Tucker Carlson(+) from the article that I posted initially. They are not trying

@Solo

the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅

“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “



“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”

“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”



https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education

neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅

anyway 😅

we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.

the other issue i have with this movement is :

the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.

the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.

this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”

they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”

um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

berlin (world aquatics) made a category for transgender athletes in the 2023 swimming competition....they had to cancel it cuz no one signed up lol 😅

https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/03/swimming-world-cup-category-for-transgender-athletes-cancelled-after-no-entries-received

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@Solo

the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅

“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “


“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”

“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education

neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅

anyway 😅

we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.

the other issue i have with this movement is :

the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.

the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.

this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”

they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”

um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

Oh shit missed that, thanks. Okay but that goes to show that they faced proper push back on that and it being age inappropriate. Brother I can go look at what the outline of the curriculum is. No, it's not the same as being in class, but you can read what it's generally supposed to be.

All that other shit you said is basically niche issues which I talked about before.

I would honestly like to see some limits any kind of medical intervention (hormones & Surgeries) till after the age of 25, when the human body and brain are fully developed. But I will admit that does limit the individual freedoms of anyone considered adult in this country over the age of 18. (so that's a personal conflict)



Outside of that, its non of my business, IDGAF what you put on your body or do to your body.

But you do evolve everyone else's opinion once you want to start using public funds and resources.

- You want to make new laws.

- Use any government health insurance to pay for medical treatments,

- You want to spend money and resources educating children in public schools

These are personal issues, that I don't' think the government should be involved in.

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Students

All of California’s children and adolescents have the fundamental right to be respected and to feel safe in their school environment, yet many do not because of their sexual orientation or gender expression. Research indicates that students in kindergarten through grade six who are gender-nonconforming are less likely than other students to feel safe at school and more likely to indicate that they sometimes do not want to go to school because they feel unsafe or afraid. Furthermore, they are more likely to be mocked, called names, or bullied (GLSEN and Harris Interactive 2012). Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) students between the ages of thirteen and eighteen also report feeling unsafe and experiencing harassment or assault at school. Like their younger counterparts, they miss days of school to avoid a hostile climate. Notably, students in middle school report higher frequencies of victimization than do students in high school (GLSEN 2012). All California educators have a duty to protect students’ right to physical and psychological safety and ensure that each student has the opportunity to thrive. Education Code Section 200 et seq. prohibits discrimination on the basis of various protected groups, including sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression. California recognizes that discrimination and harassment in schools “can have a profound and prolonged adverse effect on students’ ability to benefit from public education and maximize their potential” (CDE 2012a).

Access and Equity

Furthermore, research suggests that victimization based on sexual orientation or gender expression is related to lower academic achievement and educational aspirations as well as poorer psychological well-being (GSLEN 2012). Both teachers and students should understand the terminology used to refer to individuals who are LGBT, and be able to understand the negative effects of slang terms or discriminatory language. The Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN 2012) has the following recommendations for schools regarding students in this heterogeneous population:

- Adopt and implement clear policies and procedures that address bullying,

cyberbullying, and harassment for any reason, thus promoting respectful

and safe environments for all students.

- Provide professional learning to educators and ensure that all students have

access to a welcoming environment and supportive, respectful teachers, and

school staff who will intervene on their behalf.

- Increase students’ access to an inclusive curriculum (California Senate Bill

48 added language to Education Code Section 51204.5 prescribing the

inclusion of the contributions of LGBT Americans to the economic,

political, and social development of California and the United States of

America, with particular emphasis on portraying the role of these groups in

contemporary society).

Additional recommendations include the following:

- Make available and share age-appropriate literature that reflects the diversity

of humankind and thoughtfully deals with the complexities and dynamics

of intolerance and discrimination.

- Teach students, by example and through discussion, how to treat diverse

others.

California students who are not themselves in this population may have parents

or guardians who are LGBT. All students and their families need to feel safe,

respected, and welcomed in school.

@Solo

yeah same shit happens to fat kids or kids with disabilities, or any other perceived differences that kids might have.

But I'm not ok, with someone teaching my child that some people are born in the wrong body. Because that is not a fact, and its stupid, and we shouldn't teach children stupid opinions.

You want to say men can have more feminine traits and women can have more masculine traits. I'm cool with that, but it should end there.

Posted by Astrobyn
@Solo

yeah same shit happens to fat kids or kids with disabilities, or any other perceived differences that kids might have.

But I'm not ok, with someone teaching my child that some people are born in the wrong body. Because that is not a fact, and its stupid, and we shouldn't teach children stupid opinions.

You want to say men can have more feminine traits and women can have more masculine traits. I'm cool with that, but it should end there.

have u read anything that has been linked or anything?

Posted by Solo

Posted by Astrobyn
@Solo
yeah same shit happens to fat kids or kids with disabilities, or any other perceived differences that kids might have.
But I'm not ok, with someone teaching my child that some people are born in the wrong body. Because that is not a fact, and its stupid, and we shouldn't teach children stupid opinions.
You want to say men can have more feminine traits and women can have more masculine traits. I'm cool with that, but it should end there.

have u read anything that has been linked or anything?

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no

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Posted by Solo

Posted by Astrobyn
@Solo
yeah same shit happens to fat kids or kids with disabilities, or any other perceived differences that kids might have.
But I'm not ok, with someone teaching my child that some people are born in the wrong body. Because that is not a fact, and its stupid, and we shouldn't teach children stupid opinions.
You want to say men can have more feminine traits and women can have more masculine traits. I'm cool with that, but it should end there.

have u read anything that has been linked or anything?
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no

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That last link sent me to an ADHD test Link, fuck you I just have a gem moon.

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Posted by serenidad
@Solo
the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅
“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “

“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”
“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education
neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅
anyway 😅
we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.
the other issue i have with this movement is :
the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.
the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.
this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”
they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”
um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

Oh shit missed that, thanks. Okay but that goes to show that they faced proper push back on that and it being age inappropriate. Brother I can go look at what the outline of the curriculum is. No, it's not the same as being in class, but you can read what it's generally supposed to be.

All that other shit you said is basically niche issues which I talked about before.

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lol oh sorry i didn’t get the notification for this until now for some reason. well it might be a “niche” issue for us men, but to women it’s not. people might say things like, “well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/

to us dudes, it may just be a “niche” issue but to the women in sports and the families who are rooting for them, it’s not really a “niche” issue. it’s their entire lives probably. so i just hope they take that into consideration when making rules for sports. you know? 🤷‍♂️

genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender.

…..

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Posted by Solo

Posted by serenidad
@Solo
the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅
“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “

“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”
“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education
neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅
anyway 😅
we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.
the other issue i have with this movement is :
the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.
the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.
this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”
they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”
um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

Oh shit missed that, thanks. Okay but that goes to show that they faced proper push back on that and it being age inappropriate. Brother I can go look at what the outline of the curriculum is. No, it's not the same as being in class, but you can read what it's generally supposed to be.
All that other shit you said is basically niche issues which I talked about before.
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lol oh sorry i didn’t get the notification for this until now for some reason. well it might be a “niche” issue for us men, but to women it’s not. people might say things like, “well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/

to us dudes, it may just be a “niche” issue but to the women in sports and the families who are rooting for them, it’s not really a “niche” issue. it’s their entire lives probably. so i just hope they take that into consideration when making rules for sports. you know? 🤷‍♂️

genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender.

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Hold on. "well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” ----- this is not the thought by like literally anyone with half a brain. Which is part of the reason it's a niche issue, there's such a small amount and people generally do not think trans people should be in their identified-sport.

" but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/" ----- This might be a point. However and I know it's different because we're men, do you ever think about transmen taking opportunity from you? Being in your bathroom, etc? I know that I don't. Maybe it doesn't apply, idk.

"genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender." ----- that's cool and I think most people agree.

Again you're getting more wrapped up in those kinda things when that's not what my issue has ever been.

It's been with people saying they're making the kids gay and trans by teaching them about other people existing.

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Posted by Solo

Posted by serenidad

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Posted by serenidad
@Solo
the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅
“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “

“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”
“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education
neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅
anyway 😅
we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.
the other issue i have with this movement is :
the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.
the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.
this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”
they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”
um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

Oh shit missed that, thanks. Okay but that goes to show that they faced proper push back on that and it being age inappropriate. Brother I can go look at what the outline of the curriculum is. No, it's not the same as being in class, but you can read what it's generally supposed to be.
All that other shit you said is basically niche issues which I talked about before.
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lol oh sorry i didn’t get the notification for this until now for some reason. well it might be a “niche” issue for us men, but to women it’s not. people might say things like, “well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/
to us dudes, it may just be a “niche” issue but to the women in sports and the families who are rooting for them, it’s not really a “niche” issue. it’s their entire lives probably. so i just hope they take that into consideration when making rules for sports. you know? 🤷‍♂️
genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender.
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Hold on. "well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” ----- this is not the thought by like literally anyone with half a brain. Which is part of the reason it's a niche issue, there's such a small amount and people generally do not think trans people should be in their identified-sport.
" but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/" ----- This might be a point. However and I know it's different because we're men, do you ever think about transmen taking opportunity from you? Being in your bathroom, etc? I know that I don't. Maybe it doesn't apply, idk.
"genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender." ----- that's cool and I think most people agree.
Again you're getting more wrapped up in those kinda things when that's not what my issue has ever been.
It's been with people saying they're making the kids gay and trans by teaching them about other people existing.
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Well they are because when you are a teen your biggest issue is with identity and giving an option to stand out from the crowd is appealing to many so they adopt it

If someone is genuinely trans then that is their choice but kids are too impressionable to make such a serious life-changing choice and when it becomes part of their identity, which is still forming, then it is dangerous if they initially do it for the wrong reasons

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I disagree that teaching someone about someone else's existence is "making them"

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Posted by serenidad
@Solo
the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅
“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “

“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”
“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education
neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅
anyway 😅
we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.
the other issue i have with this movement is :
the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.
the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.
this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”
they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”
um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

Oh shit missed that, thanks. Okay but that goes to show that they faced proper push back on that and it being age inappropriate. Brother I can go look at what the outline of the curriculum is. No, it's not the same as being in class, but you can read what it's generally supposed to be.
All that other shit you said is basically niche issues which I talked about before.
click to expand

lol oh sorry i didn’t get the notification for this until now for some reason. well it might be a “niche” issue for us men, but to women it’s not. people might say things like, “well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/
to us dudes, it may just be a “niche” issue but to the women in sports and the families who are rooting for them, it’s not really a “niche” issue. it’s their entire lives probably. so i just hope they take that into consideration when making rules for sports. you know? 🤷‍♂️
genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender.
click to expand

Hold on. "well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” ----- this is not the thought by like literally anyone with half a brain. Which is part of the reason it's a niche issue, there's such a small amount and people generally do not think trans people should be in their identified-sport.

" but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/" ----- This might be a point. However and I know it's different because we're men, do you ever think about transmen taking opportunity from you? Being in your bathroom, etc? I know that I don't. Maybe it doesn't apply, idk.

"genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender." ----- that's cool and I think most people agree.

Again you're getting more wrapped up in those kinda things when that's not what my issue has ever been.

It's been with people saying they're making the kids gay and trans by teaching them about other people existing.

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oh ok good to know you’re at least against men competing in women’s sports. i’ve come across so many leftists who support it. justifying anything in the name of “inclusiveness” no matter how ridiculous it is lol 😅

as far as the other way around, trans men (biological women) entering in men’s spaces, men’s sports….i think that should be evaluated carefully too in order to protect the trans men’s safety (i’m not discrediting the trans man’s capabilities or anything) but a part of me can’t imagine what might possibly go down in martial arts/combat sports for example.

seeing as we’ve already seen a few cases of women getting beat up pretty badly in MMA by trans women (biological men). i’m sure that doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone but still i worry for the women going into men’s spaces and sports.

some women athletes (martial arts) are apparently even dropping out of competitions after finding out they will be going up against a man.

and i guess i understand cuz throwing a woman into a ring to fend for herself against a full blown man (who lived as a man for over 30 years) just doesn’t seem right.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/mma/article-12688629/amp/Transgender-marital-arts-competitions-fair-safe-medals-jiu-jitsu.html

https://gript.ie/backlash-on-social-media-as-trans-fighter-beats-woman-to-submission-in-mma-fight/

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Posted by serenidad
@Solo
the article you showed me says “gay pride video” at least three times near the top 😅
“…a third-grade teacher was removed from her teaching position after facing threats for showing a gay pride video. “

“Gay pride videos shown in a Glendale third-grade classroom have added an intense local chapter to a national debate over how and when lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation should be broached in public schools.”
“The episode unfolded with the disclosure that a teacher at Jefferson Elementary had shown her students gay pride videos…”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-11/california-takes-opposite-path-of-florida-texas-on-inclusive-education
neither of us know what the actual “approved” curriculum looked like 😅
anyway 😅
we’re kinda focusing on kids and transitioning right now but i’m sure you know this issue goes way beyond that.
the other issue i have with this movement is :
the blatant lack of concern towards women’s safety.
the blatant lack of respect towards how a lot of women feel. i have many female friends who are not at all happy with what is happening right now.
this movement is conveniently ignoring a huge population of women who are saying they are indeed uncomfortable with sharing a bathroom with men, competing in sports with men who have gone through puberty who are twice their size and have an obvious unfair advantage over them yet the wokies are basically saying to them, “so? too bad.”
they’re basically like, “we don’t care if you feel uncomfortable as long as WE feel comfortable.”
um…i’m sorry but how is that okay?😅

Oh shit missed that, thanks. Okay but that goes to show that they faced proper push back on that and it being age inappropriate. Brother I can go look at what the outline of the curriculum is. No, it's not the same as being in class, but you can read what it's generally supposed to be.
All that other shit you said is basically niche issues which I talked about before.
click to expand

lol oh sorry i didn’t get the notification for this until now for some reason. well it might be a “niche” issue for us men, but to women it’s not. people might say things like, “well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/
to us dudes, it may just be a “niche” issue but to the women in sports and the families who are rooting for them, it’s not really a “niche” issue. it’s their entire lives probably. so i just hope they take that into consideration when making rules for sports. you know? 🤷‍♂️
genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender.
click to expand

Hold on. "well what’s wrong with letting men compete in women’s sports? what’s the big deal?” ----- this is not the thought by like literally anyone with half a brain. Which is part of the reason it's a niche issue, there's such a small amount and people generally do not think trans people should be in their identified-sport.
" but they don’t realize that it’s scholarships, educational opportunities, job opportunities, careers, money that you are taking away from biological women who deserve them and who have trained all their lives to get where they’re at. :/" ----- This might be a point. However and I know it's different because we're men, do you ever think about transmen taking opportunity from you? Being in your bathroom, etc? I know that I don't. Maybe it doesn't apply, idk.
"genders were separated in sports because of real differences between man and woman, not the social construct of gender." ----- that's cool and I think most people agree.
Again you're getting more wrapped up in those kinda things when that's not what my issue has ever been.
It's been with people saying they're making the kids gay and trans by teaching them about other people existing.
click to expand

Well they are because when you are a teen your biggest issue is with identity and giving an option to stand out from the crowd is appealing to many so they adopt it

If someone is genuinely trans then that is their choice but kids are too impressionable to make such a serious life-changing choice and when it becomes part of their identity, which is still forming, then it is dangerous if they initially do it for the wrong reasons

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i was reading the youtube comments under detransitioner interviews and a lot of people were saying stuff like “i seriously thought i was trans when i really was just a tomboy. thank god i didn’t go through with any irreversible, life-altering surgeries.

now i’m married with a beautiful daughter and a loving husband.”

so yeah definitely like you said, some kids/teens are really THAT impressionable. and irresponsible adults confirming these kids’ temporary whims without fully knowing the long term effects is very dangerous.