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DXP Survivor 2014 Part IV
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Posted by duchessedenemours
For.
Which one? 😛
Divorce rates in Western society have increased, more or less steadily, for the last 100 years. In spite of the many varied circumstances, virtually all would readily agree that when children are involved, it is they who suffer most. Some couples who would otherwise divorce choose to remain together for the sake of their children. Others find their circumstances too untenable or believe their children will suffer a greater wrong by their choice to remain together. Air Heads, you have chosen to argue it is better for children if their parents remain together even though they wish to divorce. Dryer Sheets, you have been assigned the position of arguing that it is better for children if parents who wish to divorce do so.
The winner of the debate will be the team that best stakes its position, defends it against attack, weakens the opposing team??s position, and supports its position with empirical and/or logical evidence. For the purpose of the debate, we are assuming that the parents will remain together at least until the youngest child is able to attend college and that there are no issues of abuse or other behavior(s) directly damaging to the children precipitating the desire for divorce. Any arguments predicated upon such will be ignored for the purpose of judging the debate.
If there are any questions, ask away. The debate will start in roughly one hour.
The winner of the debate will be the team that best stakes its position, defends it against attack, weakens the opposing team??s position, and supports its position with empirical and/or logical evidence. For the purpose of the debate, we are assuming that the parents will remain together at least until the youngest child is able to attend college and that there are no issues of abuse or other behavior(s) directly damaging to the children precipitating the desire for divorce. Any arguments predicated upon such will be ignored for the purpose of judging the debate.
If there are any questions, ask away. The debate will start in roughly one hour.
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
Judge...
Are we gonna have Q&A with you?
Yes. I'll start. Why have you worn the same outfit two days in a row?
I said I'd wait for/answer any questions for an hour, so I'll make a post at about 10:19 EST starting the debate. Until then, kick back and enjoy a martini, work on your argument, whatever.
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalotPosted by StoicGoat
I'll start. Why have you worn the same outfit two days in a row?
I spent the night with Sergei in his room and didn't have a change of clothes.
I have one for you..
I have the Vodka down, but how does Sergei like his eggs? Scrambled??_sunny side up??_poached??_how?!click to expand
Having the vodka down is good, but keeping it down is much more important. Sergei has no respect for people who can't hold their vodka.
Judge what is up with these topics?
Are you trying to tell us something here? Censorship leads to bullying leads to divorce?
Are you trying to tell us something here? Censorship leads to bullying leads to divorce?
And welcome APC..I am aware you left but we're still a great team. Just side with those fuckers for a little while longer.
Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by Damnata
And welcome APC..I am aware you left but we're still a great team. Just side with those fuckers for a little while longer.
I think you are confused about which team is winning.click to expand
We'll see about that.
Her air was welcomed in our team..now we're all grumpy earth signs and delusional water signs around here.
It just dawned on me that I'm on a team with a cat and a whale...and some mergoat hybrid
FML.
FML.
Posted by duchessedenemours
We are all humans over here. FTW
😄
Lies. Air signs have no soul, ergo no humanity.
At least some of us are cuddly here. Oh I forgot about me being a koala.
Again fml.
Posted by DamnataPosted by duchessedenemours
We are all humans over here. FTW
😄
Lies. Air signs have no soul, ergo no humanity.
At least some of us are cuddly here. Oh I forgot about me being a koala.
Again fml.click to expand
It's gingers that have no soul, not air signs. Come on, eucalyptus eater.
Stoic, did you inspect that team up close? How do you know they are not ginger on top of being air signs?
Posted by duchessedenemoursPosted by DamnataPosted by duchessedenemours
We are all humans over here. FTW
😄
Lies. Air signs have no soul, ergo no humanity.
At least some of us are cuddly here. Oh I forgot about me being a koala.
Again fml.
Someone wanted me to remind you that you are feral. Seems like the appropriate moment.
😄click to expand
Tell him/her (I am confused about the gender after talking on mic) that:
1. He has no wit and I CAN TELL.
2. His/her dog is still a rodent.
A ginger air sign could be particularly dangerous. Best watch your back, koala.
Posted by StoicGoat
A ginger air sign could be particularly dangerous. Best watch your back, koala.
*scared*
Posted by DamnataPosted by duchessedenemours
We are all humans over here. FTW
😄
Lies. Air signs have no soul, ergo no humanity.
At least some of us are cuddly here. Oh I forgot about me being a koala.
Again fml.click to expand
*glare* Take that back robot!!
😛
Posted by justagirlPosted by DamnataPosted by duchessedenemours
We are all humans over here. FTW
😄
Lies. Air signs have no soul, ergo no humanity.
At least some of us are cuddly here. Oh I forgot about me being a koala.
Again fml.
*glare* Take that back robot!!
😛click to expand
Umm, no. I don't have the software to take that back.
Twinks make sure you tell the part with "I CAN TELL" in caps lock also. He/she will really love it 😄
The last post that will be considered in judging this debate will be stamped 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds after the time stamp on this post.
Let the debate begin!
Let the debate begin!
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalotPosted by StoicGoat
The last post that will be considered in judging this debate will be stamped 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds after the time stamp on this post.
Let the debate begin!
WTF?!
You can't start the debate until you answer my Sergei egg question. If you don't, I WILL accuse you of being a sockpuppet, Sir. Yes I will.click to expand
I'm sorry, I couldn't quite hear you. I don't seem to have ears.
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalotPosted by StoicGoat
The last post that will be considered in judging this debate will be stamped 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds after the time stamp on this post.
Let the debate begin!
WTF?!
You can't start the debate until you answer my Sergei egg question. If you don't, I WILL accuse you of being a sockpuppet, Sir. Yes I will.click to expand
I would tell you how he likes them... but I swore to the goat I wouldn't.....BUT I can share with you under 1 condition, would you like to know what that is? 😉
Posted by StoicGoatSome couples who would otherwise divorce choose to remain together for the sake of their children. Others find their circumstances too untenable or believe their children will suffer a greater wrong by their choice to remain together.
For the purpose of the debate, we are assuming that the parents will remain together at least until the youngest child is able to attend college and that there are no issues of abuse or other behavior(s) directly damaging to the children precipitating the desire for divorce.
WTF? You can't throw that in there (what's bolded^^^^^^). First of all it's handing a win very easily to the Airheads, second of all...IT IS damaging to the children. You need to reword that there is NO BAD BEHAVIOR BETWEEN THE PARENTS, OR ANY ABUSE BETWEEN THE PARENTS. Then it leaves it open for a fair debate for the subject at hand the CHILDREN. Otherwise, your handing a win over to the Airheads and CHEATING again.
It's not SPECIFIC ...that's my point. So please fix it!
Hey StillWater....go fuck yourself.
It is better for parents to divorce rather than keep being together and affecting the child's environment with bickering. Children pick up on negative energies easily.
Posted by GetMisted
Errr
The parents should divorce because they will still get financial support and they won't have to witness two people dealing with each other's presence.
Pretty sure some things matter more than the financial side in child rearing dude.
Posted by GetMistedPosted by DamnataPosted by GetMisted
Errr
The parents should divorce because they will still get financial support and they won't have to witness two people dealing with each other's presence.
Pretty sure some things matter more than the financial side in child rearing dude.
I don't have kids so i wouldnt know.click to expand
You do realize the purpose of debating is dealing in hypothesis..do you?
Sorry, this topic of debate hits at something within me.
I'll bow out. Good luck team! 🙂
I'll bow out. Good luck team! 🙂
Posted by aquapiscescuspPosted by Damnata
Sorry, this topic of debate hits at something within me.
I'll bow out. Good luck team! 🙂
It is a difficult one but so was the previous... I guess it's not meant to be pretty.click to expand
Having my parents divorce and raising my Leo cousin with my dad..I just get emotionally involved and this would sidetrack the debate.
So, good luck both of you! APC, take care of yourself on the other side.
Posted by GetMisted
I motion to change the debate.
Have a life long unhappy marriage vs don't get married and reproduce
All in favor?
I just had to come back to say *denied*
You can do it beluga. You CAN actually stop bitching.
Dork?
It is better for parents to stay together until the youngest child attends college because once the mom and dad divorce, it raises issues of custody and visitation rights. At some point the priorities and responsibility of one of the parents are shifted from the needs of the child and family activities which are needed to the needs of self and less responsibility. It ends up being very hard for both parents to come to an agreement on things that pertain to the child especially activities that children want to do like just simply being around their parents and hanging out without interfering with the other parents newly adapted schedules from the separation. The child ends up waiting for the "NEXT" time they will see mom or dad. God forbid if the parent doesn't fall threw on promises because this affects the child in a negative way. The child no longer has the luxury of having to come home to both mom and dad. Majority of the time, after divorce parents end up recreating something new that doesn't involve the other parent.
Below are some reasons why it is better for the parents to stay together and not divorce for the sake of the child:
1. The child is less likely to divorce as an adult because they value marriage and it is placed on a pedestal...less likely to pass on the divorce cycle on.
2. The child is less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol from peer pressure and depression
3. The child is less likely to be sexually active as a teen which leads to pregnancy
4. The child can have a better financial support and life style verses one parent bearing the load
5. The child will be able to love and build relationships with both parents equally and not feel like they are in a tug of war match.
6. The child is more likely to attend college because of financial stability
7. The child is less likely to have behavior issues like acting out in school
Below are some reasons why it is better for the parents to stay together and not divorce for the sake of the child:
1. The child is less likely to divorce as an adult because they value marriage and it is placed on a pedestal...less likely to pass on the divorce cycle on.
2. The child is less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol from peer pressure and depression
3. The child is less likely to be sexually active as a teen which leads to pregnancy
4. The child can have a better financial support and life style verses one parent bearing the load
5. The child will be able to love and build relationships with both parents equally and not feel like they are in a tug of war match.
6. The child is more likely to attend college because of financial stability
7. The child is less likely to have behavior issues like acting out in school
Posted by aquapiscescusp
I like my new team 🙂
lol, Are you sure? those DD's seem pretty interesting over there 🙂
.....your new team likes you too 🙂
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalotPosted by aquariuslove14Posted by aquapiscescusp
I like my new team 🙂
lol, Are you sure? those DD's seem pretty interesting over there 🙂
.....your new team likes you too 🙂
There are no interesting people on the dark side which is the Sheets. 😐click to expand
Well you seem very interesting Scuffy...
As most of your post having nothing to do with the debate (Hilarius)
When will you change your outfit? and Oh yea!! I'm hungry...can you bring me some food please? I like chicken.. 🙂
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
I really hate to do this but the awful Judge has repeatedly denied my requests to chill with Sergei. Sooooo...
Posted by aquariuslove14
Below are some reasons why it is better for the parents to stay together and not divorce for the sake of the child:
1. The child is less likely to divorce as an adult because they value marriage and it is placed on a pedestal...less likely to pass on the divorce cycle on.
2. The child is less likely to abuse drugs and alcohol from peer pressure and depression
3. The child is less likely to be sexually active as a teen which leads to pregnancy
4. The child can have a better financial support and life style verses one parent bearing the load
5. The child will be able to love and build relationships with both parents equally and not feel like they are in a tug of war match.
6. The child is more likely to attend college because of financial stability
7. The child is less likely to have behavior issues like acting out in school
Evidence?
With all due respect, you seem to list the above statements of how parents' marital status impacts their kids as "facts" rather than "opinions" so do you have any proof the above statements are true due to parents staying married when they wanted to divorce?click to expand
With all due respect, I think the debate is over? (am i right) and with all due respect I did not read your entire comment, I stopped at "with all due respect" but I do respect your thoughts...lol
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
I think it's over at 10:20pm EST according to the punctual Goat. But I could be wrong...
It's over.
Math fail cat 😛
Just woke up *yawn*
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
I think it's over at 10:20pm EST according to the punctual Goat. But I could be wrong...
No your right.... 🙂 for me though it is ovvvvverrrrrr....
9:20...I fail lol.
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
First I would like to say that..
spouse =/= parent
marital commitment =/= parental commitment
marriage =/= good parenting
divorce =/= bad parenting
I would like to argue that children who have a rough time growing up (in relation to their parents?? actions) is not due to their parents?? marital status, but rater their parents?? parental skills or lack thereof.
I believe that one must be a happy, well rounded individual (aside from being married or not) to raise children with the same inherent traits. I agree with le Duchess that happiness is a fluctuating emotion, however in my argument I mean for —happiness?? to be interpreted as possessing a positive attitude, not laughing all through life and marriage which is impossible. However, I think that staying in a bad marriage can destroy one's happiness (positive attitude) and leave them in a constant state of misery which reflects on their children.
I also believe that children learn from their parents first and foremost what grown-up love and marriage means. In a love-less marriage the couple is cold and distant towards each other. It is far wiser to divorce in a love-less marriage for the children will not witness or learn what grown-up love and marriage is supposed to be like.
Although infidelity issues between the parents don't directly damage the children, I believe they again learn by example. Infidelity is very common among spouses who remain married for —the children??s sake??. Again, it's wiser to divorce and co-parent than have them witness their parents?? cheating ways.
When parents stay in love-less marriages often riddled with arguments, coldness, indifference, and/or infidelity, how can these parents teach their children what love and marriage is meant to be like and advise them against staying in unhappy relationships when their kids start dating? The only thing unhappily married couples teach their children is hypocrisy. Again, divorce ftw.
—Be the change you wish to see in the world.?? — Mahatma Gandhi
In this case, be the adults you wish your children to become.
*throws Sergei??s eggs in his face* 😛
Judge Herman Munster??_
The next debate better include some ostrich fun facts or I'm gonna be pissed. That is all.
you typed all of that...that quick? lol..I type 56wpm....but man
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalotPosted by aquariuslove14
you typed all of that...that quick? lol..I type 56wpm....but man
Oh hell no. I typed it like an hour ago when I thought the debate ended at 9:20pm EST not dxp. So I saved it and went to eat some cake to kill time. 😄
I'm gonna go get you your chicken now...click to expand
bol...OMG!!!..LMBO....Yes it took me like all day to develop my 1 post also..lol
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
Enough for everybody. Dig in. 😄
Everyone?.....Everyone did not say they wanted chicken....and what is that little piece of leave on the side? lol
Whats a girl got to do form some mashed potatoes and string beans around here? Not even a drink...
No *Tip* for you Kitty 😄
Posted by aquariuslove14Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
Enough for everybody. Dig in. 😄
Everyone?.....Everyone did not say they wanted chicken....and what is that little piece of leave on the side? lol
Whats a girl got to do form some mashed potatoes and string beans around here? Not even a drink...
No *Tip* for you Kitty 😄click to expand
Seriously, what's up with this? The silverware is touching, the twine is still on the legs, that bird looks horribly dry, and ditto everything Aqualove said...not even a glass of water?! For shame, Madame. For shame.
Any type of gravy with this? ^
Goats are usually punctuallll, what's up with that?
Posted by StoicGoat
She's Romanian you know?
Posted by MadameDeScruffsalot
Where's the Goat? He's late.
He is sitting at the table complaining about the dry meat(no seasoning, no color)you tried to serve us...lol..
3 unhappy guest
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As with the last debate, the teams will be debating opposite sides of the same topic. You will be permitted to choose your side, but you must choose before the topic is revealed. The first team member posting his/her preference will claim it for his/her team. The opposing team's position will be assigned by default. Your choices are: together or separate.