forgiveness (Page 2)

No,I dont wish! I would respect someone like Janet and that is what attracts me. She is a decent woman and a gentle person and intelligent; all the things that I admire in a person!

"decent" woman, keh. ima end it here.

You called me a Biyatch. Call someone else a biyatch as many times as youve said it to me, and see what happens. Have I ever called you that?

Go ahead and run away!

Does it all matter, all this? There are people here that have helped me and in turn I try to do the same, not as a payback but because it is good to kind of motivate each other and help out. I dont know what it is you want from me. If you ask me a question, I have always tried to answer it. I dont think I disrespected you but once and I apologized. But then you start going after God when you and your buddies know that this is going to anger me. Go ahead with your nonesense and BS I am finished too.

Have a great time.

Why is this going to some subject saying biznotches? lol seriously. I called you a biznotch ONCE and i guess that doesnt make a difference since maybe you get that a lot. Anyway, i only said it on the religious post "evil" because apparently i find out that you are wonderbox, and so your actions make me think you are. And countless times, you have come to me with your biznotch ways so obviously what am i gonna do? stand there? no, im going to speak out. And no you never called me a biznotch but your actions tell a lot what you think about me, so whats the difference? none. Like i said, lets end it here because i have nothing more to say to you other than that maybe we could've gotten along better if we were more "forgiving" and "understanding" like this post is all about 🙂 but i guess we dont, so wutever

that has helped you? Tch, i tried helpig you with advice on the "cant stand it anymore" or wutever, but i guess you dont appreciate much of it as you say you do. In return i get some silly remarks about me in the "express yourself" post and many others. I'm sorry if i quoted your post earlier?? See Suzy Q. Maybe you arent so nice either.

god? when the hell? the one thats bsing is you suzy Q, is it that one time where that senator person died? Did i comment anything about god? no.

maybe we could've gotten along better if we were more "forgiving" and "understanding" like this post is all about 🙂 but i guess we dont, so wutever

You know why I am saying this is, because I am going to bed and I dont like ending the day this way. And because I just now notice that little smily face right in the middle of the last sentence. That kind of made it seem ok! and because I am very forgiving and understanding woman. Just a few reasons. Oh! and you included yourself in there too. You said 'we' that is good enough for me! I accept and I too am sorry. And because I remember how I was at 16!!!! But I am going to be shy here because I am too over emotional to be communticating to anyone right now! So you wont hear from me, much. I think?

Dont assume that I am giving in because I am the bad one and your the good guy. I just need to make amends with anyone Ive had a problem with at the end of the day. And you are it. And I am not a biyatch and no I never hear that. Goodnight.

no i never said that i was the "Bad guy" but the point is that maybe built up emotions got the best of us? Who knows. I dont know your situation to why you act the way you do, but i do know mine, maybe we can relate but oh wells, it doesnt really seem to matter anymore if we did share but oh wells, im sorry.

aaawww come here, you get a big( (} from me! I do want to relate; how come you are feeling emotional? What is bothering my Luz? Talk to me!

Holy Shiet! Someone once speculated that it could be just one person posting...fighting with themselves...giving advice to themselves...just using many different e-mail add's...
I think it was the Heather from Texas...where is that girl? I miss her sense of humor!!

So, how many people are you SQ?

Now I know why you thought you and Cwab are similar. But, he is actually quite up front about it...using the same post number and post name...he just signs them different...that is why I love him!! He cracks me up with that whole thing of it being obvious that all those responses are really him!! LOL!

Hey,
I thought it was okay to talk to yourself but you were considered crazy if you answered yourself, even crazier if you give advice to yourself, and totally screwed if you fought with yourself...

A Luz, stop arguing you with people (a person) with multiple personalities and start praying.

Does this mean I'm in the hotseat now? Oh well, Luz I thought you could use a break, don't forget to come relieve me when Your Mother, I mean Suzy Q, Oops no, Wonderbox comes back.

Love ya, rare gem!

Holy cow, i thought SQ and WB were the same person!

Excellent insight, LG...I didn't catch on myself...

Isn't "Nice_Slut" also WB/SQ/Your Mother, too? Not ragging on you SQ, just impressed with your list of aliases. 😛 (I will confess that I knew it was you all along, by looking at the IP address)

my god and i thought i had multiple personalities -_-

Hello everyone...I forgive you...

FOGIVENESS people...

That's what this thread was posted for but where has it gone without forgiveness...—

Childish and unnecessary backlashings to misunderstood replies from other posters fueled by our own insecurities is all I see posted here.
Why do we take such offence to replies and postings from people whether we believe them or not...? If it's as so many have said on this board why can't we just froget about it and move on...—

Ummm...oh yes...that's why...because that's not forgiveness and we can't move on because we aren't forgiveing...!!!

What does it matter if we have an obsessive compulsive personality posting to their hearts content on this site. That is their right and that is their will and that is the way it is...none of you can stop them so why do waste your energy on trying to retaliate with cleverly witted comments
aimed at makeing them in some way feel bad or ostresized...does that make you feel like you have helped in any way...?

Why do you all bother playing the game that only they are supposed to like...why do you spur them on...why do you join in their negativity...—

Ummm...oh yes...that's why...because that's not forgiveness and we can't move on because we can't forgive...!!!

Learn to forgive and you will all of a sudden find that even the most irratating person to you will have no more affect on you...it's got nothing to do with forgetting...forgetting is like sweeping those negative emotions under the carpet only to come back again...

It's about FORGIVING so that we can move on and progress in life...

Love and light to all and always...
Durrie.

So, hang on, which one is the fanatical christian?

I always get confused over whether it's Suzy-Q or Star because your names both start with S.

Durrie, Durrie, Durrie (Cortica shakes her head) - come down from the mountain top and leave those stone tablets up there!

I'm quite happy to acknowledge imperfections, in myself, in the world and in the simplistic ideologies spouted from a naive and superficial interpretation of existence. Life is not a black and white application of philosophy - there are some things you can't forgive - sometimes the only way to move on is to shelve an issue in the 'too hard to deal with' basket - no, I don't mean avoidance, but why should I have to continually rehash the mechanisms of someone's transgressions against me simply to satisfy a neo-cristian notion of questionable relevence?

Dear Jesus, I mean Durrie,

I was going to repent for my sins oh lord ,after she responded. I know I have sinned father and come short of the glory of God but I got caught up in the malice of a simple man or should I say three simple women.

Please forgive me sister Wonderbox, Suzy Q, and Your Mother

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

durrie, are you asking us to listen and to realize that every word you say is "CORRECT"? well then, father, i repent, I REPENT............

Cortica! I am not the fanatical one!

Durrie, thanks for the forgiveness!
I would like to point out that I am not playing a game, nor am I joining that person's negativity. It is only your opinion that this is what I am doing.
In this human life, we must stick up for what we believe in and that is what I did. An injustice had occurred and I expressed my support where it lay. It is very outdated to believe that only some may voice your opinion. I see that you voice yours freely. By saying we are childish and backlashing are you not just as guilty as I? Of course, you believe you are always right and that is your right to believe so. I will find my judgement upon my death, not from you.
Thanks for your concern. Good day to you.

btw, Cortica, I really liked your post!

Hello everyone...I forgive you...

Cortica...you are an intelligent person this I can tell by the way you express yourself...I am often in awe after reading your posts and I read them four to five times at least to take stock and get my head around them but it amazes me that you can't see the very simple answer to your question...

You asked...

..."why should I have to continually rehash the mechanisms of someone's transgressions against me simply to satisfy a neo-cristian notion of questionable relevence?"...

The answer is so simple Cort...because you control your life and it's direction...and as such, your will is directly manifested within your life according to the direction you steer...ie. questionable relevance means you're on a questionable path...—

Star...your grace is appreciated and your light lights shines brightly because of it. I named no names in my previous post and for good reason, so for anyone to think I was speaking to them means they hold themselves someway in that regard not because I do.
I know you don't play games star, indeed you have helped me more than anyone on these threads and I thank you with all my heart and soul...you also might be pleased to know the angels have blessed me since I have begun my meditation and I have you to thank for that as well as them...!!!

And now to those who seem think pureley on their own accord I might add, that this is a classroom with me acting as the teacher. All I can say is that if it were there would be a heck of a lot of class clowns to put up with...you know the kind...full of comments with no relevance to the lesson at hand...and also I would have to put my foot down and teach them that blasfemy is a sin against God.

Live life the way you see fit...your situation is it's voice, so open your ears and listen with your eye's.

Love and light to all...
Durrie.

Durrie,
I just cannot stay mad at you! You are definitely unique and not afraid to be who you are!
I am a tolerant soul with many friends of all walks of life...how can I know what occurs amongst the masses lest I spend time with them?
But, I am in human form and thus it must remain...I shall make mistakes...even as I learn and grow...

I am delighted that you found blessings in communicating with your angels! It was something that SuzyQ did not comprehend...perhaps she was not ready...

I believe you mean well...I fear that you judge too much, however...there are many passages that delve into this topic...

Love and Light,
Star

Hey Star...

Thanks again for the kind words...I to am in human form and make mistakes...but my will is not to and becomming a medium through which goodwill and common sense is passed might not give me those qualities overnight but those qualities seem so much more tangible and achievable as a result...

I can see why I sound judgemental but I don't do it to be differant or to stir the pot...indeed Luz seems to think I'm dogmatic and she wonders if I follow through with everything i say...

Why else would I waste my breath my dear Luz...what else would I be other than a bumbling idiot were I not to strive for what I speak of and actually believe to be true...maybe to get on your nerves or grate your carrot...? I have so little time here and much better things to use it for.

I would like to leave you with some words from an amazing song writer whom I draw much inspiration and light from...Edward Kowalczyk....

I was wrong
we are not these bodies alone
in a dream with a mind of it's own
I, I know you long
to be tethered
and tied to the heart of the one
the one that be lyin' you down
on that ancient ground
nothing more to be found
ah yeah

we spend all of our lives goin' out of our minds
looking back to our births forward to our demise
even scientists say everything is just light
not created, destroyed but eternally bright
masters in every time, lord in every place
knows they stood up for love down inspite of the hate...!!!

Love and light...to all and always
Durrie.

ive realized that i cant satisfy everyone on this board, just even the lil things as "the way i put words together" and "my behavior", i know my faults. No i'm not kind(sometimes) i am deceitful and yet honest, no i'm not smart, no i dont know everything, i'm compassionate/caring and yet insensitive and inconsiderate, i am not an angel, i am open minded and yet closed, etc. I'm not going to put on the impression that i know everything because if i did that then it would be because of my own insecurities, i dont lie about myself and i dont lie to you but i lie when it comes down to getting something that i want at times, i care about ppl but sometimes i just want them to f*k off. I am not a beautiful person, I am not "unique", and no im not different.

had to let that out even tho its off topic ^^ but hey, who said anything about ppl not being capable of being random? And the poem is nice durrie.

Hey Luz...

I bet that feels much better. It's good to release and let it all go and IMO you know who you are from you discription above...geez, most people freeze when you ask them to explain who they think they are but you seem to have it pretty waxed...good on you...have a great weekend Luz.

Love and light always...
Durrie.

P.S I'm glad you liked the poem. It's actually a corus and opening verse to two differant songs but they just fit so well together IMO.

I can't satisfy everyone on this board either, Luz! But, I liked your post! "Express yourself!"

"none of you can stop them so why do waste your energy on trying to retaliate with cleverly witted comments
aimed at makeing them in some way feel bad or ostresized...does that make you feel like you have helped in any way...?"

I can only speak for myself, but that's not what I was trying to do, for the record. I that for the benefit of Suzy-Q and no one else.

"I named no names in my previous post and for good reason, so for anyone to think I was speaking to them means they hold themselves someway in that regard not because I do."

That's sort of a mind-game durrie. It's like you're throwing some sort of bait out there for someone to bite so that you can then turn it on them and say, "look, you took the bait, you're being negative and you have low self-esteem" or something. Which in and of itself, is your way of making them look stupid. Maybe I am being paranoid but it seems to me that you are laying in wait for someone to say something that makes them seem (to you) to be unforgiving or negative so that you can embarrass them by trying to make them look like they are a low life for not meeting this high standard of near perfection all the time. Or maybe I am just upset right now. I don't know.

"I SAY that for the benefit of Suzy Q" is what that should say.

You know I was thinking the same thing Phoenix. He is using this baiting technique. Durrie, shame on you! I still love ya though. I heard someone refered to as 'The Masterbaiter' on another board; is that how you want to be refered to— Stop it right now and behave yourself. Nobody is perfect and not even you! I think we have had this conversation many times now, will it ever sink in. Hey, I will take you how ever you want to be. I hope you dont expect for me to agree with you though.

To answer the original question, if somebody does you wrong, DON'T FORGIVE THEM! Im speaking from experience, incase you can't notice. One important lesson ive learned is that you have to follow your GUT instincts about people, regardless of what your mind is telling you. Always liten to them, never doubt yourself. If you have warning bells going off saying, 'beware, beware', then listen to these. Every time ive ignored mine, it has led to disaster. As the philosopher, Thomas Hobbes, said, "life is short, nasty and brutish" and i agree, if you're not careful.

So, to put it in a nutshell, be careful of who you let into your life. If someone does you wrong, they don't deserve forgiveness. Just walk away and mend your life. Put your energy into positive things, and in bettering yourself.

Ok! but why are you so mad?

Durrie,
The universe is my classroom and life is my teacher not you, I don't remember in enrolling into your class. I guess it was me you were indirectly speaking of in your previous post about being a class clown and blasphemy.
Well Durrie, don't you think it's a sin to act as the only sinless man? I actually wasn't making fun of God nor his son, for a minute there I really thought I was corresponding to him seeing as how you never do any wrong but yet find faults in others. I once a heard that only ONE sinless man walked the earth, I never heard about two. If it's true that only one sinless man walked the earth and you'rs not him that would mean you're my equal

ohohohohoho, right on rare gem ^^

Sorry, I pushed submit by accident, now to finish what I was saying...
If it's only one sinless man that walked the earth and you're not him I guess that would make you my equal- nothing
more nothing less.

I know what I wrote was unkind but so has a lot of the things she has written so I thought I'd let her see how it feels to but the target of someones insults. Was I right for doing it, maybe. Was I wrong for doing it,possibly. But you know it really doesn't matter because you have neither a
heaven or a hell to put me in. So be I a clown or not I will be dealt will accordingly by the person I pray to at night, not you Durrie. Futhermore, why did you have to put me down indirectly, instead of taking the high road and forgiving me, I thought that was the lesson you were trying to teach us, teacher—

Durrie, it's okay I forgive you!

Good point Rare Gem. That was well written.

I can see why you wanted her to see what it feels like to be the target of someone's insults! I thought Suzy was very unstable. Seemed to me she had a personality disorder just as Suzy! She could be sooo mean, then all nice and giving hugs...and yet, fanatically, religious! Reminded me of the 'scary' religious people...the ones whose children are scarred for life, because of the hell they went through living with someone like that. Oh well, I am sure she is reading this...
But, it always bugged me. I just didn't say much about it...
Sometimes, I don't voice what I am thinking. I admire those who do! Good for you!

Star,

You remind me of that Dylan song where he talks about people like you.



when i was down you just stood there grinning

I wish that for just one time you could stand inside
my shoes

You would know what a drag it is to see you!

You say I let you down, and you know its not like that;

you just want to be on the side that winning.

"I'd let her see how it feels to but the target of someones insults. Was I right for doing it, maybe. Was I wrong for doing it,possibly. But you know it really doesn't matter because you have neither a
heaven or a hell to put me in."

Oh, so who is playing teacher now. Rare gem you are not; you are a common as lumps of coal.
No heaven or hell to put you in because from the sound of it you are living in your hell right now. Good luck you sound confused. You liberal new agers are always spouting 'freedom of speech' as long as it is something you want to hear. As soon as you dont like what you hear you start trying to have the person silenced and banned from speaking. I have seen it many times before. There is nothing inlighting about any of you!
Something is happening here but you dont know what it is do you mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

ROFL Libragirl - so true (in some cases). Love that quote!

Durrie,

the reference to 'questionable relevence' in relation to forgiveness, made in my way back whenever post, was directed at the idea of forgiveness, rather than any intimated application to a path I may or may not be travelling on. That is, forgiveness is a biblical notion, therefore its relevence is linked to that of christianity upon my live - none whatsoever. Once again, why should I pick through the memories of somebody's untoward acts upon me until I am numbed to the point of non-feeling, simply because you and your god tell me that I have a problem if I don't?

Raregem - maybe you should start praying to durrie 🤢gt;

Star and Rare Gem and anyone,


For those of you who seem to have a problem with me, why dont you just come out and say what it is specifically that I did to bother you, and stop with all the slander and ganging up on me.

If someone asks me a question, then I give them an answer. I am sorry if I am honest and dont rap everything I say in love and light as you all do. I think if we are going to do this we should be sincere about it and have integrity! You all speak as if you believe it, but dont know what it is. I challenge any of you to show me where I insulted you with mailce just for the hell of it. I may be blunt but I am not a mean person and I think you have that confused. I have repaid insult for injury but that was just a defensive reaction.

I do have strong opinions and I dont sway it when it comes to my faith in Jesus Christ who is my savior and the only one and who I love very much; I will take on the devil himself if he tries to put him down, but never have I ever tried to disrepect anothers religion like I have been shown here.

I have to go to work and I would apprecaite some answers, today!

Sunflower

Cortica,

Should I remind you of a couple of posts where you asked us to forgive you for your remarks and insults, especially toward Heather!

Everytime you say I'm sorry, you ask for forgivenss and it is given. So apparently you either do believe in the forgiveness and the bible or you are a liar!

In my opinion you all fall in to two categories!

I did voice my opinion. I think you are mean, then nice...then weird...it rotates like that..you are also a fanatic about God. I believe in God, but, I don't believe in ramming my beliefs down anyone's throat.
I think you are an 'excitement seeker'. You love all of this disruptiveness. You just pretend you don't. (That is part of the game). You love to stir things up.

I don't hate you though. You express a lot of hate in your posts...then you say you have no negativity! I think you are sad and need help.

I know you don't like me. You know you don't like me.
Big deal. It just bugs me when you are mean to others.
And trying to play with people by posting as who know how many personalities is really weird. You even answered yourself many times...
I think that it doesn't matter what you do or say...I will always think you need help. I hope you take the steps to get it.

Your opinion of me as voiced in the words of Dylan only prove that you do not know me at all.

Again, get help. You need it.

Sunflower, Suzy Q, whoever you want to be called, why is it that I must be confused, when you're the one hiding behind pseudonyms? If you were all that confident in yourself you would have pick one name and stuck to it. Not four names to display four different behaviors/personalities. Like Star said, one of you was nice the other religious the other neutral,and the other mean. My thing is why did you find it necessary to deceive us?

What are you talking about I disrespected "your" religion? Did ever think that in fact your religion could be mines and many others. Again I said what I said and how I said it to make a point. I'm tired of people, a person trying to tell me how to live, think, and feel based on his personal beliefs- whatever they may be.

As far as me trying to teach you a lesson, it's more of me reciprocating, not teaching. You only get back what you put out.

Cortica please, I'd really be on a slow fall to hell praying to him!!

Hey Star, Hey Luz! You ladies have a good day. You too Cortica 🙂

Hey Thanks Rare Gem!
I hope you have a good day also!

thanx rare gem ^_______^ you too and oh yeah, *spanks suzy Q* naughty girl