Harry & Meghan Markle

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

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I won’t pretend like I actually follow news on British royalty. I do see how the media depicts Meghan as a villain, often comparing her to Kate, who they portray as perfect. It’s just interesting that your opinion reflects this precisely. Can never underestimate the power of the news media.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

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I agree with Tizani. I was trying to find the right word but she does come across as awkward. I’m sure they make her feel very uncomfortable.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

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i'm indifferent to her and perhaps you are right but...she has been interviewed countless times for her profession. she is an eloquent public speaker in her role as an ambassador. she has appeared on stage and screen for years.

why awkward now? even if she feels awkward, she has the tools and skills to project herself to be a confident and capable woman.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

I won’t pretend like I actually follow news on British royalty. I do see how the media depicts Meghan as a villain, often comparing her to Kate, who they portray as perfect. It’s just interesting that your opinion reflects this precisely. Can never underestimate the power of the news media.

It's the interviews she did after her engagement that started it all for me. Not just the news I've read. She enjoys the limelight too much that she's like acting in a stage even when she didn't have to. And even if we don't compare her to Kate, compare her to Diana who was a commoner as well, Diana was never as awkward and egoistic as she is. Diana broke the rules but she became an icon. Meghan broke the rules and she's hated. There's something about a person's action or personality that either attracts or repulse people around her. She's not hated because Kate is portrayed as perfect. She's hated because of how she is. Can't blame anybody else for that.

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It’s not about Kate or Placing the blame on her. Your missing the point. It’s about the media manipulating people’s opinion of her. The news outlet already knows that people are uncomfortable with her being black and an actress. So they are playing on that. They created a poor image of her from day one. ‘She’s a fame loving, Hollywood trash actress who is trying to Suck British royalty dry.’ If anything she is naive. She didn’t realize full on what she was getting into.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

i'm indifferent to her and perhaps you are right but...she has been interviewed countless times for her profession. she is an eloquent public speaker in her role as an ambassador. she has appeared on stage and screen for years.

why awkward now? even if she feels awkward, she has the tools and skills to project herself to be a confident and capable woman.

I'm not sure if you're saying she isn't awkward, or that it's about the timing?

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that she has never been awkward before.

if it is right that she is awkward with a camera in her face or in a role of public speaker, why allow that side of herself to be seen now when she never presented that way?

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

I won’t pretend like I actually follow news on British royalty. I do see how the media depicts Meghan as a villain, often comparing her to Kate, who they portray as perfect. It’s just interesting that your opinion reflects this precisely. Can never underestimate the power of the news media.

It's the interviews she did after her engagement that started it all for me. Not just the news I've read. She enjoys the limelight too much that she's like acting in a stage even when she didn't have to. And even if we don't compare her to Kate, compare her to Diana who was a commoner as well, Diana was never as awkward and egoistic as she is. Diana broke the rules but she became an icon. Meghan broke the rules and she's hated. There's something about a person's action or personality that either attracts or repulse people around her. She's not hated because Kate is portrayed as perfect. She's hated because of how she is. Can't blame anybody else for that.

It’s not about Kate or Placing the blame on her. Your missing the point. It’s about the media manipulating people’s opinion of her. The news outlet already knows that people are uncomfortable with her being black and an actress. So they are playing on that. They created a poor image of her from day one. ‘She’s a fame loving, Hollywood trash actress who is trying to Suck British royalty dry.’ If anything she is naive. She didn’t realize full on what she was getting into.

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the general public weren't uncomfortable with her being black and an actress. as a couple they had overwhelming support from the wider population.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

i'm indifferent to her and perhaps you are right but...she has been interviewed countless times for her profession. she is an eloquent public speaker in her role as an ambassador. she has appeared on stage and screen for years.

why awkward now? even if she feels awkward, she has the tools and skills to project herself to be a confident and capable woman.

I reckon she's awkward because she hasn't fully embraced her role as a royalty. She's got conflicting thoughts in her mind hence the execution was so bad.

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hmm, it was always going to be a tough gig. people in those circles don't like her as she was always seen as an agitator. harry isn't blameless in this either. it's thought that he courted this and wanted rebellion. i think he didn't really count on his taurus grandmother telling him to do one.

I thought they said they wouldn't move to America until Trump was no longer President. Do they know he's still the President?

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

Pretty fucking hard to be tossed into the deep end of a world completely abstract from ours or her's don't you think?

Kate was learning this shit since way back she went to posh private schools since she was 4. She's known Will since college and has been exposed to his world. She was built for the job and Will picked her for that reason.

And how about Diana? Diana was a commoner. She did shit too. Why is she an icon and Meghan is a hated royal?

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because she died.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

Pretty fucking hard to be tossed into the deep end of a world completely abstract from ours or her's don't you think?

Kate was learning this shit since way back she went to posh private schools since she was 4. She's known Will since college and has been exposed to his world. She was built for the job and Will picked her for that reason.

And how about Diana? Diana was a commoner. She did shit too. Why is she an icon and Meghan is a hated royal?

because she died.

Oh don't say that 😂😂😂😂😂 it makes me think now that most of us are not going to be appreciated until we are dead 😂😂😂😂😂

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lol, it's true. if i remember correctly she was generally reviled before she hit that post.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

I won’t pretend like I actually follow news on British royalty. I do see how the media depicts Meghan as a villain, often comparing her to Kate, who they portray as perfect. It’s just interesting that your opinion reflects this precisely. Can never underestimate the power of the news media.

It's the interviews she did after her engagement that started it all for me. Not just the news I've read. She enjoys the limelight too much that she's like acting in a stage even when she didn't have to. And even if we don't compare her to Kate, compare her to Diana who was a commoner as well, Diana was never as awkward and egoistic as she is. Diana broke the rules but she became an icon. Meghan broke the rules and she's hated. There's something about a person's action or personality that either attracts or repulse people around her. She's not hated because Kate is portrayed as perfect. She's hated because of how she is. Can't blame anybody else for that.

It’s not about Kate or Placing the blame on her. Your missing the point. It’s about the media manipulating people’s opinion of her. The news outlet already knows that people are uncomfortable with her being black and an actress. So they are playing on that. They created a poor image of her from day one. ‘She’s a fame loving, Hollywood trash actress who is trying to Suck British royalty dry.’ If anything she is naive. She didn’t realize full on what she was getting into.

Regarding her being black, she hasn't fully embraced that either. If I didn't see articles, I would've thought she was Thai like John Legend's wife. She needs her own identity to fit in. Not a role to play. She's not naive. In one interview she denied knowing Harry is a Prince. Like what in the world is she talking about? She gets bad press because she creates the opportunity for bad press. Also, everyone knows what happened to Diana. I don't think she went in not knowing what shes getting into.

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Doesn’t matter if she has embraced it or not. Whether you thought she was Korean or Indonesian. She’s not white and it makes people uncomfortable. Only if they knew the truth about history. She’s naive because she didn’t consider the totality, perhaps she thought 3 decades of Diana’s passing would make a difference and people would miraculously see past the color/ poverty line. Or even worst that they would not somehow notice it if she does not embrace it. Lol

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I would be awkward and disingenuous on camera if this is all I am surrounded by and the whole family I married into didn’t speak up for me at all.

it's in the job description though. part of being a royal is putting up with it.

jesus if i got paid as much as they do, the papers could put me on the front page, all day every day.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

I won’t pretend like I actually follow news on British royalty. I do see how the media depicts Meghan as a villain, often comparing her to Kate, who they portray as perfect. It’s just interesting that your opinion reflects this precisely. Can never underestimate the power of the news media.

It's the interviews she did after her engagement that started it all for me. Not just the news I've read. She enjoys the limelight too much that she's like acting in a stage even when she didn't have to. And even if we don't compare her to Kate, compare her to Diana who was a commoner as well, Diana was never as awkward and egoistic as she is. Diana broke the rules but she became an icon. Meghan broke the rules and she's hated. There's something about a person's action or personality that either attracts or repulse people around her. She's not hated because Kate is portrayed as perfect. She's hated because of how she is. Can't blame anybody else for that.

It’s not about Kate or Placing the blame on her. Your missing the point. It’s about the media manipulating people’s opinion of her. The news outlet already knows that people are uncomfortable with her being black and an actress. So they are playing on that. They created a poor image of her from day one. ‘She’s a fame loving, Hollywood trash actress who is trying to Suck British royalty dry.’ If anything she is naive. She didn’t realize full on what she was getting into.

Regarding her being black, she hasn't fully embraced that either. If I didn't see articles, I would've thought she was Thai like John Legend's wife. She needs her own identity to fit in. Not a role to play. She's not naive. In one interview she denied knowing Harry is a Prince. Like what in the world is she talking about? She gets bad press because she creates the opportunity for bad press. Also, everyone knows what happened to Diana. I don't think she went in not knowing what shes getting into.

Doesn’t matter if she has embraced it or not. Whether you thought she was Korean or Indonesian. She’s not white and it makes people uncomfortable. Only if they knew the truth about history. She’s naive because she didn’t consider the totality, perhaps she thought 3 decades of Diana’s passing would make a difference and people would miraculously see past the color/ poverty line. Or even worst that they would not somehow notice it if she does not embrace it. Lol

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except it didn't make people uncomfortable.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

Pretty fucking hard to be tossed into the deep end of a world completely abstract from ours or her's don't you think?

Kate was learning this shit since way back she went to posh private schools since she was 4. She's known Will since college and has been exposed to his world. She was built for the job and Will picked her for that reason.

And how about Diana? Diana was a commoner. She did shit too. Why is she an icon and Meghan is a hated royal?

because she died.

Oh don't say that 😂😂😂😂😂 it makes me think now that most of us are not going to be appreciated until we are dead 😂😂😂😂😂

lol, it's true. if i remember correctly she was generally reviled before she hit that post.

That's true. Media did damage her. My mum was so Inlove with her though. I personally hated her husband more. He cheated on her and I think he and the royal family broke her.

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the whole family/system is fucked up.

off with their heads all of them i say.

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I would be awkward and disingenuous on camera if this is all I am surrounded by and the whole family I married into didn’t speak up for me at all.

Even her own family didn't speak up for her. Even her mum. Which is sad.

Literally no one but Harry. Which is disgusting.

And there are thousands of these garbage headlines.

Like no matter how unlikeable someone is this isn’t necessary and should be condemned especially after Diana but they don’t want to make a statement to remain above it all. 🙄

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because you don't say anything. at least while liz is at the helm. who knows under chuck....but while liz is in charge, you keep your mouth shut...unless she says it is alright.

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I would be awkward and disingenuous on camera if this is all I am surrounded by and the whole family I married into didn’t speak up for me at all.

Side by side comparison of exactly what I’ve been saying all along. People always SEEM to miss the obvious or just selectively see what they have been conditioned to believe.

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I would be awkward and disingenuous on camera if this is all I am surrounded by and the whole family I married into didn’t speak up for me at all.

it's in the job description though. part of being a royal is putting up with it.

jesus if i got paid as much as they do, the papers could put me on the front page, all day every day.

Yes and no. There is a clear distinction between them and they both come from outside the immediate aristocracy Kate has gotten off a lot easier.

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yes but kate got it too before meg came along - there was stuff about her "debaucherous" university days, that dress, why whatshisface didnt propose straight away etc etc. kate just did as she was told, wore the right clothes, was mute, pushed out an heir and several spares.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

i'm indifferent to her and perhaps you are right but...she has been interviewed countless times for her profession. she is an eloquent public speaker in her role as an ambassador. she has appeared on stage and screen for years.

why awkward now? even if she feels awkward, she has the tools and skills to project herself to be a confident and capable woman.

I'm not sure if you're saying she isn't awkward, or that it's about the timing?

that she has never been awkward before.

if it is right that she is awkward with a camera in her face or in a role of public speaker, why allow that side of herself to be seen now when she never presented that way?

Ah yeah, well maybe it's all another act. But I still feel it's plausible they're just under pressure.

We have royal correspondents in every paper who's job it is to make a story out of even the most uneventul Sunday in their life. I imagine it's a lot to take.

I have no horse in this race anyway. The one time I was interested in their story, was that video about how Harry was using her to break away from his family. Since I did that in my own dating life, it was a "mindblown" moment. But that's just me projecting onto them, not really knowing anything about this.

That’s certainly an unconscious reason a lot people choose certain partners.

Either that or he was disgusted and tired of the world he was forced to exist in and wanted to have a person by his side that doesn’t come from that.

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not from what i have been told.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

i'm indifferent to her and perhaps you are right but...she has been interviewed countless times for her profession. she is an eloquent public speaker in her role as an ambassador. she has appeared on stage and screen for years.

why awkward now? even if she feels awkward, she has the tools and skills to project herself to be a confident and capable woman.

I'm not sure if you're saying she isn't awkward, or that it's about the timing?

that she has never been awkward before.

if it is right that she is awkward with a camera in her face or in a role of public speaker, why allow that side of herself to be seen now when she never presented that way?

Ah yeah, well maybe it's all another act. But I still feel it's plausible they're just under pressure.

We have royal correspondents in every paper who's job it is to make a story out of even the most uneventul Sunday in their life. I imagine it's a lot to take.

I have no horse in this race anyway. The one time I was interested in their story, was that video about how Harry was using her to break away from his family. Since I did that in my own dating life, it was a "mindblown" moment. But that's just me projecting onto them, not really knowing anything about this.

That’s certainly an unconscious reason a lot people choose certain partners.Either that or he was disgusted and tired of the world he was forced to exist in and wanted to have a person by his side that doesn’t come from that.

not from what i have been told.

You have a bug on the wall at Windsor and Buckingham?

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as good as.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

from what little ive seen of her talking, she’s awkward.

maybe US/Canada will relax them.

i'm indifferent to her and perhaps you are right but...she has been interviewed countless times for her profession. she is an eloquent public speaker in her role as an ambassador. she has appeared on stage and screen for years.

why awkward now? even if she feels awkward, she has the tools and skills to project herself to be a confident and capable woman.

I'm not sure if you're saying she isn't awkward, or that it's about the timing?

that she has never been awkward before.

if it is right that she is awkward with a camera in her face or in a role of public speaker, why allow that side of herself to be seen now when she never presented that way?

Ah yeah, well maybe it's all another act. But I still feel it's plausible they're just under pressure.

We have royal correspondents in every paper who's job it is to make a story out of even the most uneventul Sunday in their life. I imagine it's a lot to take.

I have no horse in this race anyway. The one time I was interested in their story, was that video about how Harry was using her to break away from his family. Since I did that in my own dating life, it was a "mindblown" moment. But that's just me projecting onto them, not really knowing anything about this.

That’s certainly an unconscious reason a lot people choose certain partners.Either that or he was disgusted and tired of the world he was forced to exist in and wanted to have a person by his side that doesn’t come from that.

not from what i have been told.

You have a bug on the wall at Windsor and Buckingham?

as good as.

Can I be your bug in Windsor? Because that place is killer.

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there's lots of shit going down that never reaches the printing press.

anyway, i no longer have my sources but did at the time.

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She was 9 years old in 1990 for reference. He paid tuition at her high school.

He and her mother divorced in 1987 so probably was a part of divorce agreement.

LOL @ the Target card debt

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Honestly though the tabloids were racist as fuck and I appreciate that Harry is essentially protecting her like his father never did to his mother. He’s manly as fuck.

He's always been a Captain-Save-A-Hoe.

all i know is that he'd be really compatible with a scorpio woman

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She’s a total narcissist

I heard if married n divorced as a royal she’d get nothing

Why now she hustling to milk as much money outside on monarch so if anything it’s hers

Yep.

If this was a male actor marrying a british princess, it would be more obvious.

Libra moon females are charming.

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amber heard is charming?

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

Pretty fucking hard to be tossed into the deep end of a world completely abstract from ours or her's don't you think?

Kate was learning this shit since way back she went to posh private schools since she was 4. She's known Will since college and has been exposed to his world. She was built for the job and Will picked her for that reason.

And how about Diana? Diana was a commoner. She did shit too. Why is she an icon and Meghan is a hated royal?

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Because she’s dead.

You forget the press harassed Diana as well when she was alive. It’s gotta be incredibly triggering for Harry to see it repeating with his wife. He said it was his decision to leave the monarchy and that he did it for his son.

But of course she is blamed for this as well.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

I won’t pretend like I actually follow news on British royalty. I do see how the media depicts Meghan as a villain, often comparing her to Kate, who they portray as perfect. It’s just interesting that your opinion reflects this precisely. Can never underestimate the power of the news media.

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Kate has had her share of problems with the media in the UK. She's been vilified as a gypsy (because of her mixed heritage) and her sister was portrayed as an attention-seeking hoe.

The only commoner I know of who hasn't yet been vilified (as far as I know) is Prince Edward's wife, Sophie, the Countess of Wessex.

So it's not uncommon for the press to pick on commoners who marry into the Royal Family.

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Honestly though the tabloids were racist as fuck and I appreciate that Harry is essentially protecting her like his father never did to his mother. He’s manly as fuck.

He's always been a Captain-Save-A-Hoe.

I thought that was a standard Virgo trait.

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It is lmao

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She’s a total narcissist

I heard if married n divorced as a royal she’d get nothing

Why now she hustling to milk as much money outside on monarch so if anything it’s hers

Yep.

If this was a male actor marrying a british princess, it would be more obvious.

Libra moon females are charming.

#amberheard

What are your thoughts on Grace Kelly?

I think it was the 50s and she was already an accomplished actress and Prince Rainier sought her out.

They married fast as well, but it was a different time.

The thing with Meghan is she seems to want something, but on her terms which makes her seem manipulative. They’ve said when she wants something, she gets it.

The British turned on her when she expected all these customs to change for her. She can want that and change that, but you have to expect backlash.

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She was. Alfred Hitchcock (one of many directors who worked with her), like a typical Scorpio moon, mourned the loss of her talent when she gave up her career to become a princess.

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I like how she only wants to work with the best directors.

Hollywood isn’t taking her serious as she thought.

She couldn't fit in with British royalty so now she wants to fit in with Hollywood royalty.

It's all blue blood mentality, especially on the part of the UK media.

You see the failings of commoners being exposed and derided all the time, while the Royal Family gets away scot-free with their own failings and dark dealings.

Prince Philip, a well-known chauvinist and philanderer, nearly kills someone while driving, yet the press doesn't harp on it as much as they harp on Megan and Harry.

Is there any truth to the British tabloids?

Did they really fire several nannies?

Is she really high maintenance and difficult to work with, making staff cry ?

Why did they ask to move out of Kensington?

Why did they waste so much $ $ $ $ to live in their new cottage?

Why are the brothers feuding since Harry's been married?

They're both very boring. I'm just glad they left 🇨🇦 good riddance.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

Pretty fucking hard to be tossed into the deep end of a world completely abstract from ours or her's don't you think?

Kate was learning this shit since way back she went to posh private schools since she was 4. She's known Will since college and has been exposed to his world. She was built for the job and Will picked her for that reason.

And how about Diana? Diana was a commoner. She did shit too. Why is she an icon and Meghan is a hated royal?

Because she’s dead.

You forget the press harassed Diana as well when she was alive. It’s gotta be incredibly triggering for Harry to see it repeating with his wife. He said it was his decision to leave the monarchy and that he did it for his son.

But of course she is blamed for this as well.

Nope. I didn't forget that. My mother was a huge fan of Diana when Diana was alive and even after she died. But I remember her rebellious antics but I don't remember her being disliked as much as Megan. Kate also had her fair share of disastrous tabloid news herself when she was new. But once again, Meghan beats the record. True enough that Harry must've wanted out for his son. But also, their actions are a bit hypocritical because they were still going to live in an expensive mansion, they'd still be in the limelight they just want it in their own terms. And Meghan gets blamed for it because she did stir up controversy right from the beginning. She enjoyed it, whether it's good or bad press. She definitely wants to be seen.

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Diana's major problems with the press began after her divorce from Big Ears. When she started getting about by herself, on her own terms.

The press was very quick to forget how she'd spent most of her life as a Princess pandering to their every whim and fancy. Even keeping silent when the affair between Big Ears and Horse face was exposed.

Her interview with Martin Bashir was her way of hitting back at both the press and the Royal Family.

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Not a fan of Meghan. She doesn't seem very genuine.

How does she come across as disingenuous?

Just the way that she acts after she got engaged to Harry. I liked her when she was an actress. But after the engagement, she overtalks on Harry during interviews, she basically acts differently as well like having more ego. Comparing her actions to Kate Middleton who was not really into the limelight but had to do it anyway, Meghan seem to be forcing something, an image about herself, that doesn't suit her. And sure, she had to adjust because she's become royalty but it's all too much it makes me anxious when I watch her.

Pretty fucking hard to be tossed into the deep end of a world completely abstract from ours or her's don't you think?

Kate was learning this shit since way back she went to posh private schools since she was 4. She's known Will since college and has been exposed to his world. She was built for the job and Will picked her for that reason.

And how about Diana? Diana was a commoner. She did shit too. Why is she an icon and Meghan is a hated royal?

Because she’s dead.

You forget the press harassed Diana as well when she was alive. It’s gotta be incredibly triggering for Harry to see it repeating with his wife. He said it was his decision to leave the monarchy and that he did it for his son.

But of course she is blamed for this as well.

Nope. I didn't forget that. My mother was a huge fan of Diana when Diana was alive and even after she died. But I remember her rebellious antics but I don't remember her being disliked as much as Megan. Kate also had her fair share of disastrous tabloid news herself when she was new. But once again, Meghan beats the record. True enough that Harry must've wanted out for his son. But also, their actions are a bit hypocritical because they were still going to live in an expensive mansion, they'd still be in the limelight they just want it in their own terms. And Meghan gets blamed for it because she did stir up controversy right from the beginning. She enjoyed it, whether it's good or bad press. She definitely wants to be seen.

Diana's major problems with the press began after her divorce from Big Ears. When she started getting about by herself, on her own terms.

The press was very quick to forget how she'd spent most of her life as a Princess pandering to their every whim and fancy. Even keeping silent when the affair between Big Ears and Horse face was exposed.

Her interview with Martin Bashir was her way of hitting back at both the press and the Royal Family.

That's why I don't remember her being as bad as Meghan at the moment. I did think Diana had some redeeming qualities about her behind the scandals. And yes, I do agree. She did try to fit in. For quite a while. Before she finally decided to break out of it. But at least she tried. And I don't think she expected special treatment back in the day.

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She was a 19 year old virgin who had led a pretty sheltered life, despite coming from a very scandalous family. Her family married her off to Prince Charles (who was 12 years her senior) because they were broke and needed the royal family to fund their extravagant life style .

As far as I remember, Diana always toed the line as royalty, partly due to pressure from her family, partly because she wanted the best for her sons. I think she was the first one give birth in a hospital rather than have a home birth for both her sons - Kate Middleton followed suit.

There is a reason why Diana was known as the people's Princess.

It was only when the media started pressuring her into responding to her husband's affair that she finally decided to hit back.

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As far as the race thing, I feel the same way as @7thHouse who nailed it for me, being mixed race myself.

Yup. Don't care for black and white. I'm neither. So can't be hypocritical and say one is better than the other.

Racial chauvinism, a new term I found the other day.

What do you mean? I wonder if it’s what I’m thinking

racial chauvinism is championing someone based on their background regardless of their actions.

like racism on the other extreme, it takes away personal agency from the individual and reduces them to a cause.

it also ends up propping the narrative of white people as the chief actors of society regardless, since minorities are only ever painted as victims who need support, despite their own individual achievements, screw-ups and whatever else they should be recognised for along the way.

like this argument that comes up with Merkhel and the Royals

“I don’t like what Merkhel did”

“is it because she’s black?”

“no, i’m not saying i don’t like her. i don’t like what she did.”

“well she deserves to be treated with respect regardless. and before you question her actions, what about what all these white people do around her?”

this isn’t the first thread i’ve seen this.

i also question anti-racism campaigns in general. they often end up with the part of society least affected by racism (here in this country, white) arguing amongst themselves.

i’d prefer to leave it to the market to promote diversity. anti-racism doesn’t care about diversity as much as it wants to naval gaze.

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I am not defending Markle just because she is a woman of color. It’s more about FairPlay for me. I defended her because she is being picked on and bullied by British press for basically no reason. Come on what did she really do to deserve the enormous amount of bad press they are giving her? I’m sure you can’t come up with anything to substantiate the villain that they are making her out to be. Ok so she’s seek attention In an acting class. What actress doesn’t want to be in the limelight? you can nit pick and bring up more petty ass stories like this just to uphold your beliefs on this so called racial chauvinism or whatever. It just further demonstrates that you are just as naive and dense as she is if you think the Brits are not giving her a hard time because of her background.

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As far as the race thing, I feel the same way as @7thHouse who nailed it for me, being mixed race myself.

Yup. Don't care for black and white. I'm neither. So can't be hypocritical and say one is better than the other.

Racial chauvinism, a new term I found the other day.

What do you mean? I wonder if it’s what I’m thinking

racial chauvinism is championing someone based on their background regardless of their actions.

like racism on the other extreme, it takes away personal agency from the individual and reduces them to a cause.

it also ends up propping the narrative of white people as the chief actors of society regardless, since minorities are only ever painted as victims who need support, despite their own individual achievements, screw-ups and whatever else they should be recognised for along the way.

like this argument that comes up with Merkhel and the Royals

“I don’t like what Merkhel did”

“is it because she’s black?”

“no, i’m not saying i don’t like her. i don’t like what she did.”

“well she deserves to be treated with respect regardless. and before you question her actions, what about what all these white people do around her?”

this isn’t the first thread i’ve seen this.

i also question anti-racism campaigns in general. they often end up with the part of society least affected by racism (here in this country, white) arguing amongst themselves.

i’d prefer to leave it to the market to promote diversity. anti-racism doesn’t care about diversity as much as it wants to naval gaze.

I am not defending Markle just because she is a woman of color. It’s more about FairPlay for me. I defended her because she is being picked on and bullied by British press for basically no reason. Come on what did she really do to deserve the enormous amount of bad press they are giving her? I’m sure you can’t come up with anything to substantiate the villain that they are making her out to be. Ok so she’s seek attention In an acting class. What actress doesn’t want to be in the limelight? you can nit pick and bring up more petty ass stories like this just to uphold your beliefs on this so called racial chauvinism or whatever. It just further demonstrates that you are just as naive and dense as she is if you think the Brits are not giving her a hard time because of her background.

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Her and basically every commoner who marries into the Royal Family. She's not unique in this situation. The British press will always find something to nitpick and bully about any commoner who marries into the family.

What makes her so special or what did she do to deserve this? Probably something petty that the British media decided to blow up and exaggerate. But she's not the first to get this kind of treatment and certainly won't be the last. They did the same thing to Diana, to Fergie (who is, I believe, currently banned from Royal events for certain improprieties), to Kate (with racist references to her background and mixed heritage).

So this is not about colour. It's about class differences - commoner vs royal.

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As far as the race thing, I feel the same way as @7thHouse who nailed it for me, being mixed race myself.

Yup. Don't care for black and white. I'm neither. So can't be hypocritical and say one is better than the other.

Racial chauvinism, a new term I found the other day.

What do you mean? I wonder if it’s what I’m thinking

racial chauvinism is championing someone based on their background regardless of their actions.

like racism on the other extreme, it takes away personal agency from the individual and reduces them to a cause.

it also ends up propping the narrative of white people as the chief actors of society regardless, since minorities are only ever painted as victims who need support, despite their own individual achievements, screw-ups and whatever else they should be recognised for along the way.

like this argument that comes up with Merkhel and the Royals

“I don’t like what Merkhel did”

“is it because she’s black?”

“no, i’m not saying i don’t like her. i don’t like what she did.”

“well she deserves to be treated with respect regardless. and before you question her actions, what about what all these white people do around her?”

this isn’t the first thread i’ve seen this.

i also question anti-racism campaigns in general. they often end up with the part of society least affected by racism (here in this country, white) arguing amongst themselves.

i’d prefer to leave it to the market to promote diversity. anti-racism doesn’t care about diversity as much as it wants to naval gaze.

I am not defending Markle just because she is a woman of color. It’s more about FairPlay for me. I defended her because she is being picked on and bullied by British press for basically no reason. Come on what did she really do to deserve the enormous amount of bad press they are giving her? I’m sure you can’t come up with anything to substantiate the villain that they are making her out to be. Ok so she’s seek attention In an acting class. What actress doesn’t want to be in the limelight? you can nit pick and bring up more petty ass stories like this just to uphold your beliefs on this so called racial chauvinism or whatever. It just further demonstrates that you are just as naive and dense as she is if you think the Brits are not giving her a hard time because of her background.

" I’m sure you can’t come up with anything to substantiate the villain that they are making her out to be."

Why would I want to do that?

I started out in this thread saying I bet she is going through a hard time. I'm not invested in Merkhel being a villain or a victim. I've made mistakes myself.

If anything I'd like to see her and Harry go on to learn whatever they need to, to become solid elsewhere and hopefully that sets an example for anyone in the future who faces similar odds.

But I don't need to choose sides. The English press (royal correspondents i mean) are petty and those articles from Sarah Vine are low. No one here in the UK likes Sarah Vine's "work" if you can call it that, or the Daily Mail. Just like I don't like Merkhel and Harry's actions either.

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I am not making a mistake. I’m intelligent enough to know the difference. So don’t try to coax me with your bullshit and stop trying to pretend to be neutral. You keep saying It’s not about picking sides. You already did that by classifying me as a racial chauvinist.

It’s not picking. It’s little pieces here and there that come together

That’s nitpicking

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As far as the race thing, I feel the same way as @7thHouse who nailed it for me, being mixed race myself.

Yup. Don't care for black and white. I'm neither. So can't be hypocritical and say one is better than the other.

Racial chauvinism, a new term I found the other day.

What do you mean? I wonder if it’s what I’m thinking

racial chauvinism is championing someone based on their background regardless of their actions.

like racism on the other extreme, it takes away personal agency from the individual and reduces them to a cause.

it also ends up propping the narrative of white people as the chief actors of society regardless, since minorities are only ever painted as victims who need support, despite their own individual achievements, screw-ups and whatever else they should be recognised for along the way.

like this argument that comes up with Merkhel and the Royals

“I don’t like what Merkhel did”

“is it because she’s black?”

“no, i’m not saying i don’t like her. i don’t like what she did.”

“well she deserves to be treated with respect regardless. and before you question her actions, what about what all these white people do around her?”

this isn’t the first thread i’ve seen this.

i also question anti-racism campaigns in general. they often end up with the part of society least affected by racism (here in this country, white) arguing amongst themselves.

i’d prefer to leave it to the market to promote diversity. anti-racism doesn’t care about diversity as much as it wants to naval gaze.

I am not defending Markle just because she is a woman of color. It’s more about FairPlay for me. I defended her because she is being picked on and bullied by British press for basically no reason. Come on what did she really do to deserve the enormous amount of bad press they are giving her?I’m sure you can’t come up with anything to substantiate the villain that they are making her out to be. Ok so she’s seek attention In an acting class. What actress doesn’t want to be in the limelight? you can nit pick and bring up more petty ass stories like this just to uphold your beliefs on this so called racial chauvinism or whatever. It just further demonstrates that you are just as naive and dense as she is if you think the Brits are not giving her a hard time because of her background.

Her and basically every commoner who marries into the Royal Family. She's not unique in this situation. The British press will always find something to nitpick and bully about any commoner who marries into the family.

What makes her so special or what did she do to deserve this? Probably something petty that the British media decided to blow up and exaggerate. But she's not the first to get this kind of treatment and certainly won't be the last. They did the same thing to Diana, to Fergie (who is, I believe, currently banned from Royal events for certain improprieties), to Kate (with racist references to her background and mixed heritage).

So this is not about colour. It's about class differences - commoner vs royal.

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I already stated it was about her background as an actress/ commoner as well. I know they nitpick with all the women, but they go extra hard on her for the pettiest reasons.

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PS...

His transition from the British Army to civilian life was already going to be hard (as is the case with just about anyone who has been in the military for a while).

....But it must be even more difficult with a new marriage, a fake baby, and the random move several thousand miles away from everyone he enjoys spending time with.

It's extraordinarily stressful for him, that is for certain.

virgos are easy to guilt

she probably made him feel bad, told him how she's gonna get 'ruined'

i don't know much about leos but i know enough about libra moons