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So this huge topic was fired up elsewhere about Instagram "models." (Note, I am fully aware that some get paid and have made a lucrative "career" out of doing so, and good for them. But this is generally speaking and encompassing everyone who does this, regardless of actual purpose, whether it be attention whoring or legitimately making money.)

Chick posts a screencap of a guy saying some inappropriate things about her, objectifying her like whoa. "Oh look at your boobs, they're so great, ready to pop out of that bikini, etc" You can practically see the drool in his texts. She responds with a pic of his own female family members. Apparently this is her tactic any time a guy does this shit. It's hilarious and hopefully makes him think about wtf he's doing. Would you talk to your mom/sister/niece this way? Would you want someone else to? No? So what makes THIS okay?

I take a look at the account of the woman in question, and she's a "model." Aka, posing in really skimpy clothes, ass and boob shots galore.

It made me stop and wonder where the fuck she really stands? This woman isn't "empowered" as she's posting images, very much like the ones we see in mainstream media, that objectify women. Boobs, ass, thongs, bras, etc.

So... she's upset he's objectifying her, yet she's objectifying herself JUST like society and media portrays women. ..does she realize what a contradiction this is?

This isn't about victim blaming or saying she deserves it. It's how she's buying into the same garbage she seems to be against, and this is a trend that works against women and the actual feminist movement (we're not talking asinine third wave here that's a total joke).

Things got heated in the comments of this post, but it's disturbing how many women just cannot seem to fathom this issue. They hide it under the guise of "empowerment" (it's not), and how she should be able to do whatever she want and not get negative attention (which, to an extent, is true), but what the hell? How can you sit there and say you don't approve of men objectifying women and then turn right around and objectify yourself?

This shit is why I get irritated when people bash the concept of feminism and what it's about. I had some silly twat go on about third wave feminism and how it's about creating a "safe space" blah blah.

...third wave feminism is also created by social justice morons who don't have very many working braincells and is also a movement headed by privileged white men who have no idea what it's like to be a woman. It's totally damaging to the women's movement as a whole.

But this bullshit of seeking validation and attention in the form of selfie whoring and "modelling" on Instagram is getting fucking ridiculous and should be seen with sadness because that's what it is- sad. Yet, we have clueless fucks embracing and defending such behavior under the guise of "empowerment."

It's not empowerment if you're doing it for validation and attention.

Wtf with dxp fucking with my title? It changed twice in the preview. Dafuq?? :/

Posted by ManilaVice
i like the ones who get offended then its not even their real picture they're using.

People do that??

Haha, gawd, people are so fucking depressing sometimes. They just look for anything to get offended about. Wtf are you doing with your life??

Posted by KinglyCrab
@rockyroadicecream No denying that women have it hard, but assholes need to put in there place regardless of sex. Men get objectified too, but alas it's a different story for men. At least MEN age better HA. I'll be a 50-something and still look fabulous while women will have to work harder to maintain their image. This is why Intelligence and Personality first because time does shitty things to humans.

This has nothing to do with my post, but okie doke.

Also, the chauvinism in your comment is flattering. What ever will I do to keep my panties from dropping at such a display?

WTF are you people even talking about, A man saw a picture of a chick with her breast out and said damn them tits look good, and the crazy chick got offended.

Its not like a hands free strip club, in-fact it is the same thing as if a man told a stripper he tits looked good, and then they kicked the man out.

Rule one you don't ever tell a woman she looks good. You tell her she could do better, and if she lost a little weight she might almost make it to model looking.

Don't ever give a woman the benefit of thinking she is attractive.

Just tell Boobs Magee she isn't that great, could try a little harder, and call it a day. Fuck that slut, she will find a gutter to roll around in eventually. Just look her in the eyes and tell her you bet she makes her daddy proud. Worthless pos.

I think this goes with the argument that, there are some people who believe that we should live in a progressive type of society, where everyone is equal and we respect each other our differences, and this is what's right and we need to hold everyone to those standards.

Women aren't objects, children aren't bullied, and everyone can use whatever gender bathroom they choose.

I just don't' think it will ever be realistic, and it will always be nothing but an illusion. Because these things go against our baser instincts. And each individual takes responsibility for their safety, health and happiness for themselves. I don't really care who and what you blame shit on, at the end of the day it happens to you, so you and only you are left to deal with the consequences of whatever happened to you.

Ahhh the beauty of being an adult.

I get to make my own choices, and then get to live with those choices no matter how shitty they are.

And the whole time life was actually out to kill everyone.

Might as well raise our glasses and say fuck off world, you savage beast you.

If one presents themself as a sex object, they will get treated like one.

Who's the blame for that? The one choosing to represent sex, not the one responding to sex

I love rocky so much

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Posted by truecap
If one presents themself as a sex object, they will get treated like one.

Who's the blame for that? The one choosing to represent sex, not the one responding to sex

If one presents themselves as a waitress/waiter, they will get treated like one.

So when I tell you to go get my food I ordered 15 minutes ago, you best damn get in there and get me my food. You're here to serve me.. Why haven't you brought me lemon for my water yet? You think you can move a little faster? I may be an asshole, but your job is to wait on me. That means I can treat you how ever I damn well please. Bring some ranch too.

Who's to blame for the above?

The one choosing to serve? Or the one wanting to be served?

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Lol! Good analogy.

It is their job, though. And I'm sure they deal with a lot of that kind of treatment. If they don't like it, then they can change jobs. Just like the girl portraying herself as a sex object can choose to portray herself as someone respectable.

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If one presents themself as a sex object, they will get treated like one.

Who's the blame for that? The one choosing to represent sex, not the one responding to sex

If one presents themselves as a waitress/waiter, they will get treated like one.

So when I tell you to go get my food I ordered 15 minutes ago, you best damn get in there and get me my food. You're here to serve me.. Why haven't you brought me lemon for my water yet? You think you can move a little faster? I may be an asshole, but your job is to wait on me. That means I can treat you how ever I damn well please. Bring some ranch too.

Who's to blame for the above?

The one choosing to serve? Or the one wanting to be served?

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Much respect 🙂

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Posted by truecap
If one presents themself as a sex object, they will get treated like one.

Who's the blame for that? The one choosing to represent sex, not the one responding to sex

If one presents themselves as a waitress/waiter, they will get treated like one.

So when I tell you to go get my food I ordered 15 minutes ago, you best damn get in there and get me my food. You're here to serve me.. Why haven't you brought me lemon for my water yet? You think you can move a little faster? I may be an asshole, but your job is to wait on me. That means I can treat you how ever I damn well please. Bring some ranch too.

Who's to blame for the above?

The one choosing to serve? Or the one wanting to be served?

Lol! Good analogy.

It is their job, though. And I'm sure they deal with a lot of that kind of treatment. If they don't like it, then they can change jobs. Just like the girl portraying herself as a sex object can choose to portray herself as someone respectable.

I guess it's just a difference of opinions I suppose.

I'm apart of an online community that meets every so often for meet and greets (occasional parties). A community full of folks not ashamed of their sexuality. So.. although I have photos of myself doing unspeakable things, I still find it disrespectful for someone to message me telling me they want their ass full of my BWC.

Understanding your sexuality and what you enjoy doing with it doesn't make you dis respectable.

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I hear what you're saying. I do understand your point.

My point was about how you present yourself is how you get treated. Most people are respectful, yet there's always going to be a lot who aren't. If you don't like the way the ones who aren't treat you, redesign your image. (not talking about you, just a general thought)

But, take it all with a grain of salt. I'm a cap and image is important to me.

"Understanding your sexuality and what you enjoy doing with it doesn't make you dis respectable."

I do agree with this. Perhaps my choice of word could have been better.

i don't get it. this woman on instagram is a part of a third wave feminism movement? do they get cash back rewards?

Posted by Astrobyn
I think this goes with the argument that, there are some people who believe that we should live in a progressive type of society, where everyone is equal and we respect each other our differences, and this is what's right and we need to hold everyone to those standards.

Women aren't objects, children aren't bullied, and everyone can use whatever gender bathroom they choose.

I just don't' think it will ever be realistic, and it will always be nothing but an illusion. Because these things go against our baser instincts. And each individual takes responsibility for their safety, health and happiness for themselves. I don't really care who and what you blame shit on, at the end of the day it happens to you, so you and only you are left to deal with the consequences of whatever happened to you.

when was the last time you saw a lynch mob?

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Posted by HouseCleaning
i don't get it. this woman on instagram is a part of a third wave feminism movement? do they get cash back rewards?

Oh you

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what? do they get free towing as well?

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Posted by Astrobyn
I think this goes with the argument that, there are some people who believe that we should live in a progressive type of society, where everyone is equal and we respect each other our differences, and this is what's right and we need to hold everyone to those standards.

Women aren't objects, children aren't bullied, and everyone can use whatever gender bathroom they choose.

I just don't' think it will ever be realistic, and it will always be nothing but an illusion. Because these things go against our baser instincts. And each individual takes responsibility for their safety, health and happiness for themselves. I don't really care who and what you blame shit on, at the end of the day it happens to you, so you and only you are left to deal with the consequences of whatever happened to you.

when was the last time you saw a lynch mob?

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Posted by GetMisted
@truecap

I guess my issue with what you're saying.. is that you're giving power to the patron to control the profession of others.

If you don't like being treated like a waitress/waiter, change your job.
If you don't like being treated like a nurse, change your job.
If you don't like being treated like a stripper/model, change your job.

If we let patrons determine how someone should do their job, or be treated at their job.. we wouldn't have any waitresses or nurses.

My original comment was about image. You're the one who changed /compared it to occupation

what is disturbing to me about this whole conversation is that half of you see no wrong trying to impose standards for everyone to live up to. WE have the freedom to say think and feel whatever the fuck we want.

STOP TRYIGN To CONTROL EVERYONE!

And if you can tell him that he can't say nice tits, than you can also tell her that she can't show her tits to strangers.

If she has the right to show him her tits he has the right to comment on them

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@truecap

I guess my issue with what you're saying.. is that you're giving power to the patron to control the profession of others.

If you don't like being treated like a waitress/waiter, change your job.
If you don't like being treated like a nurse, change your job.
If you don't like being treated like a stripper/model, change your job.

If we let patrons determine how someone should do their job, or be treated at their job.. we wouldn't have any waitresses or nurses.

My original comment was about image. You're the one who changed /compared it to occupation

So..

If you don't want to be treated like a server or nurse, you should change your image? What about workplace uniforms?

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The point is you can't control what other people do or say, but you can control what you do and how you project yourself to the world. You can accept it or you can change it -- your image/environment/occupation/etc.

And what you wrote doesn't even make sense. You've got two subjects blurred into one

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Posted by Astrobyn
I think this goes with the argument that, there are some people who believe that we should live in a progressive type of society, where everyone is equal and we respect each other our differences, and this is what's right and we need to hold everyone to those standards.

Women aren't objects, children aren't bullied, and everyone can use whatever gender bathroom they choose.

I just don't' think it will ever be realistic, and it will always be nothing but an illusion. Because these things go against our baser instincts. And each individual takes responsibility for their safety, health and happiness for themselves. I don't really care who and what you blame shit on, at the end of the day it happens to you, so you and only you are left to deal with the consequences of whatever happened to you.

when was the last time you saw a lynch mob?

on this site? wasn't it last Wednesday.

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the sad part is this whole thread comes from a dumbshit argument between idiots on instagram in the comment section because rockyroadicecream needed validation and recognition for her own argument.

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Posted by truecap
And what you wrote doesn't even make sense. You've got two subjects blurred into one

It happens 😛

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🙂

Basically, only they can "objectify" themselves. They just don't want men to do it.

Posted by truecap
If one presents themself as a sex object, they will get treated like one.

Who's the blame for that? The one choosing to represent sex, not the one responding to sex

Yes, but guys need to be held accountable for the fucked up shit they say and do to women. Lay off the sexist victim blaming, pls. That's not what this is about.

Posted by Imarollin
Who cares!?!??

Live and let live

Women need to learn the ramifications of their actions. Sometimes it's unwarranted, others.. Well they ask for it.

It's like posting s pic of a delicious meal and someone says they'd love to eat it, how can they be mad?

Posted by DonnaElvira77
Everytime someone sees a girl have fun or be happy men or boring women or bitter people just act like asses

Question : Is she genuinely having fun?? If the answer is yes ...leave her be.
Question : Is she interested in what she is doing? If the answer is yes ...leave her be.

Not all women are interested in the same things as you. Not all people see things the way you do. It's instagram it's not Cambridge. She is not going to post her PHD there. And I guarantee people would say it was for attention if she did.

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Oh honey, do yourself a BIG favor and just stop talking.

Posted by Gooober
Basically, only they can "objectify" themselves. They just don't want men to do it.

I was told by some silly bitch that "you can't objectify yourself."

I seriously love these social justice fucktards. They're hilariously stupid as shit.

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@rockyroadicecream No denying that women have it hard, but assholes need to put in there place regardless of sex. Men get objectified too, but alas it's a different story for men. At least MEN age better HA. I'll be a 50-something and still look fabulous while women Will have to work harder to maintain their image. This is why Intelligence and Personality first because time does shitty things to humans.

This has nothing to do with my post, but okie doke.

Also, the chauvinism in your comment is flattering. What ever will I do to keep my panties from dropping at such a display?

Ha . I'm not that easy femme. Do you take me for a mindless fool? Mental foreplay is needed before such acts can be committed to and what if I don't like you. I cannot commit to coitus with one I do not know and connect with at some level.

Dude...her comment just flew over your head 😐

I don't respond to sarcasam from people who look for drama like her. Not my interest.

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lolwut.

Apparently you can't tell the difference between discussion and drama. I know it's hard for you to differentiate since those in your generation have the intellect of a shoe box, but come on.

I'm going have to start an instagram and post pictures of my abs and crotch.

I'm not objectifying myself! I just can't help it if I take photos at suggestive angles.

People want the freedom, but be exempt from the consequences. You can never separate the two.

this shit is still going on? people are trying to put some rational thought to someone irrational on instagram. then people here miss the point of how the feminist movement is being corrupted by incompetence.

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Posted by truecap
If one presents themself as a sex object, they will get treated like one.

Who's the blame for that? The one choosing to represent sex, not the one responding to sex

Yes, but guys need to be held accountable for the fucked up shit they say and do to women. Lay off the sexist victim blaming, pls. That's not what this is about.
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I didn't victimize anyone.

Asking men not to comment on sexual pictures is like asking a bear not to shit in the woods. So it surprises me that she put it out there, then gets upset when someone comments. But really, come on, she put it out there because she WANTED to have men look at her that way and she WANTED men to complement her. So some got crude, in their twisted way, it is a complement. They went about it the wrong way, but she can't say she didn't expect it.

Would you put candy in front of a child and not expect them to reach for it?
Would you put a car in front of a dog and not expect them to pee on the tires?
Would you put food in front of a starving man and not expect him to wolf it down?

Use logic. Every action gets a reaction. Just just got upset because it's not the reaction she wanted.

I'm all for someone doing what they want and feel comfortable with and if they are expressing their sexuality then so be it. However, there are consequences sometimes and in this case that consequence was ugly comments from men. Why get upset? Why not just ignore and keep on posting?

And should men be held accountable for what they say?

Well, it's social media. No one on DXP is held accountable for what they say....why is Instagram any different?

Posted by Astrobyn
If she has the right to show him her tits he has the right to comment on them

Or throw beads.....

What it all boils down to is ego and reputation, people think being called a slut diminishes their worth when embracing it empowers the individual, if a girl gets the shits over a guy posting his opinion on her on Instagram she has every right to be upset if she lets it get to her just like he has his right to an opinion.
Women give shit to men all the time for being bald, short, bad provider or a bad father but it doesn't work because they don't care as much as women what people think of them (I guess patriarchal society has its factors into this because men believe they are gods gift), Instagrm sluts want to have their cake and eat it to, they buy into media and magazines and what their ideal life should be like and get their panties in a twist when they don't get their way.....I like it when a women when they just don't give a fuck and will shank a nigger whenever he looks at them weird that's true empowerment.

Posted by rockyroadicecream
So this huge topic was fired up elsewhere about Instagram "models." (Note, I am fully aware that some get paid and have made a lucrative "career" out of doing so, and good for them. But this is generally speaking and encompassing everyone who does this, regardless of actual purpose, whether it be attention whoring or legitimately making money.)

Chick posts a screencap of a guy saying some inappropriate things about her, objectifying her like whoa. "Oh look at your boobs, they're so great, ready to pop out of that bikini, etc" You can practically see the drool in his texts. She responds with a pic of his own female family members. Apparently this is her tactic any time a guy does this shit. It's hilarious and hopefully makes him think about wtf he's doing. Would you talk to your mom/sister/niece this way? Would you want someone else to? No? So what makes THIS okay?

I take a look at the account of the woman in question, and she's a "model." Aka, posing in really skimpy clothes, ass and boob shots galore.

It made me stop and wonder where the fuck she really stands? This woman isn't "empowered" as she's posting images, very much like the ones we see in mainstream media, that objectify women. Boobs, ass, thongs, bras, etc.

So... she's upset he's objectifying her, yet she's objectifying herself JUST like society and media portrays women. ..does she realize what a contradiction this is?

This isn't about victim blaming or saying she deserves it. It's how she's buying into the same garbage she seems to be against, and this is a trend that works against women and the actual feminist movement (we're not talking asinine third wave here that's a total joke).

Things got heated in the comments of this post, but it's disturbing how many women just cannot seem to fathom this issue. They hide it under the guise of "empowerment" (it's not), and how she should be able to do whatever she want and not get negative attention (which, to an extent, is true), but what the hell? How can you sit there and say you don't approve of men objectifying women and then turn right around and objectify yourself?

This shit is why I get irritated when people bash the concept of feminism and what it's about. I had some silly twat go on about third wave feminism and how it's about creating a "safe space" blah blah.

...third wave feminism is also created by social justice morons who don't have very many working braincells and is also a movement headed by privileged white men who have no idea what it's like to be a woman. It's totally damaging to the women's movement as a whole.

But this bullshit of seeking validation and attention in the form of selfie whoring and "modelling" on Instagram is getting fucking ridiculous and should be seen with sadness because that

@OP
They all say they are " Building their Brand"....Yeah ok

I'm excited to read what @rockyroadicecream has to say

Posted by truecap I didn't victimize anyone.

Asking men not to comment on sexual pictures is like asking a bear not to shit in the woods. So it surprises me that she put it out there, then gets upset when someone comments. But really, come on, she put it out there because she WANTED to have men look at her that way and she WANTED men to complement her. So some got crude, in their twisted way, it is a complement. They went about it the wrong way, but she can't say she didn't expect it.

Would you put candy in front of a child and not expect them to reach for it?
Would you put a car in front of a dog and not expect them to pee on the tires?
Would you put food in front of a starving man and not expect him to wolf it down?

Use logic. Every action gets a reaction. Just just got upset because it's not the reaction she wanted.

I'm all for someone doing what they want and feel comfortable with and if they are expressing their sexuality then so be it. However, there are consequences sometimes and in this case that consequence was ugly comments from men. Why get upset? Why not just ignore and keep on posting?

Because their comments come from conditioning that IT'S OKAY TO VIEW WOMEN AS SEX OBJECTS.

If woman is wearing a low cut top and walking around in public, it is NOT OKAY for men to just openly make sexual comments toward her and objectify her. Your mentality is "well she's asking for it by doing that."

No. Just no.

YOU need to use logic and realize that there are a LOT of men out there who think it's their right to talk to women however they want. These women objectifying themselves makes them prone to that, yes. HOWEVER, the only reason they're prone to it is because men think IT'S OKAY TO OBJECTIFY WOMEN. If they weren't the privileged gender in a patriarchal society, I highly doubt they'd be as obnoxious and rude with their stares and comments toward women.

In regard to this chick, yeah I think she's full of shit and being a hypocrite. However, the dude's reaction was not justified, nor was it okay, much like you're saying (and yes, you ARE saying this), and a great example of what a LOT of women face day to day, regardless of what they're wearing. It is not okay for them to treat women as such, regardless of what they're wearing.

Whose side are you really on if you aren't even on your own gender's side?

Gtfo of here with that "well she was asking for it" mentality. I'd hate to see your views on rape victims.

This woman objectified herself. She CHOSE to set that motion into action.

Jesus you retard. Do you ever stop talking or take a moment to listen to yourself? People like you are the cancer to this society.

Didn't read all of the thread but these "models" are flown out to Dubai (by men who pay there) to get ran through for $ 30k+. There are all types of articles on it.

That guy obviously went overboard with his Madonna whore complex and deserves to go to jail for his relentless assault on that tinder chick and she's obviously going to think twice about being a dumb bitch on the Internet, our generation is coming to terms with Internet etiquette and constantly testing what's not acceptable and seeing what they can and can not get away with, this guy and girls dispute is a perfect example how to people came together and learnt consequences of their actions, we don't need to dig any deeper but see it for what is is and learn