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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
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#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.



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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.



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he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
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Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.

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well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
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I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.

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#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.



LOL no. No. You are the dumbest motherfucker that ever walked this earth. Do some actual research, into companies he's NOT still on board with. Look at the ones that he was a part of, that he isn't now. The ones that he tries to act like he had nothing to do with in the first place. You are arguing with straight up FACTS about his history. You keep talking about "accusations". You keep talking about public eye shit. As if that's what matters? What matters is if the mainstream media accuses you of something? Because it isn't like they purposely slander people? Making up whatever they can to make people look bad? With Trump we have actual facts showing his past corruption. With Hillary we do too. But then you go on to try and accuse Clinton who has never had any real evidence of corruption. In fact the main highlight of what he allegedly did wrong is the fact that he cheated on his wife. If it were legit that he was corrupt when he was Mayor, THAT would've been the media's focus. The fact that they focused on his alleged cheating on his wife goes to show just how desperate they actually were to find something wrong with him.

None of Trump's properties have any sort of notable reputation. 99.9% of everybody ever didn't even know he existed beyond being a reality TV host before he ran for president.

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Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation?



What the fuck are you talking about? That's because he OWNS companies, as in he doesn't actually do much to run them himself. He just mooches off them just as he depended on that "small loan of a million dollars" from his father in the first place. His daddy had his back. Any man that calls a loan of a million dollars, SMALL, is no man that knows hard work and humility. You are shitting me so hard right now.

Beyond that, all he was known for was hosting a reality TV show. It's kinda hard to hate a guy UNTIL you know the way he thinks and that the way he thinks is going to affect the lives of... oh I don't know. THE ENTIRE WORLD? Which with Trump didn't really happen in the public sphere UNTIL he busted in to politics where it's all about what your opinions are for running an entire country and you espouse views that have political ramifications across the globe..

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Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.



I love how you're bluntly trying to say that Trump's ideas are at all good or right. His wall is retarded and wrong. We were all born on this planet, we were all born into the same species. You have no more right than those illegal immigrants to be here. It may be illegal, but what they are doing sure as hell isn't MORALLY WRONG. Nor is it right for him take away government support systems. Millions of people will DIE if that happens. All because of a few outliers who abuse the system and are way too insignificant to actually affect things in the first place.

And the ultimate irony of it is? That the real cause of the financial issues in the US is because of the 1% ONLY. The very people Trump is a part of. How can you vote for the guy that is the closest thing to a REAL example of "The Illuminati"? Do you not know who the real enemy is? Do you not know who the 1% is? All of our current problems are caused by the fact that 1% of the population is ROBBING the rest of the country. It's a proven fact because they sit on such an unfathomable amount of money that could not possibly have been gained fairly. And it's obvious where all that money came from. It came from everybody else in the country. There is a wage gap between the 1% and the rest of the population so large that the 1% has single handedly causes the Poor to become Poverty Stricken, the Middle Class to become the new Poor, and the Rich to become the new Middle Class. They literally downsized everybody else and even caused widespread poverty in a first world nation. That is the current state of affairs and D Trump is one of those 1% wall street motherfuckers. So miss me with the bullshit.

Also, the absolute worst part is that you seem to actually buy Trump's shtick about how "politicians are corrupt". You realize he himself is a politician? You realize how retardingly hypocritical that message is? He says "politicians are corrupt", proceeds to be a politician, and has a huge history of corruption before he even was one.

I mean fuck. Bernie Sanders was the actual representation of a politician who acknowledged the corruption in the system without being corrupt himself. And he only ran for president from the beginning to make sure Trump wouldn't get in. So the ACTUAL guy that had the ACTUAL voice that represented the people's concerns and feelings. Was the same guy who dedicated his whole campaign to stopping trump. Yet you think TRUMP is "The One" HERPDERPDERPDERP
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.

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did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

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the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
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Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂



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#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.



LOL no. No. You are the dumbest motherfucker that ever walked this earth. Do some actual research, into companies he's NOT still on board with. Look at the ones that he was a part of, that he isn't now. The ones that he tries to act like he had nothing to do with in the first place. You are arguing with straight up FACTS about his history. You keep talking about "accusations". You keep talking about public eye shit. As if that's what matters? What matters is if the mainstream media accuses you of something? Because it isn't like they purposely slander people? Making up whatever they can to make people look bad? With Trump we have actual facts showing his past corruption. With Hillary we do too. But then you go on to try and accuse Clinton who has never had any real evidence of corruption. In fact the main highlight of what he allegedly did wrong is the fact that he cheated on his wife. If it were legit that he was corrupt when he was Mayor, THAT would've been the media's focus. The fact that they focused on his alleged cheating on his wife goes to show just how desperate they actually were to find something wrong with him.

None of Trump's properties have any sort of notable reputation. 99.9% of everybody ever didn't even know he existed beyond being a reality TV host before he ran for president.

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Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation?



What the fuck are you talking about? That's because he OWNS companies, as in he doesn't actually do much to run them himself. He just mooches off them just as he depended on that "small loan of a million dollars" from his father in the first place. His daddy had his back. Any man that calls a loan of a million dollars, SMALL, is no man that knows hard work and humility. You are shitting me so hard right now.

Beyond that, all he was known for was hosting a reality TV show. It's kinda hard to hate a guy UNTIL you know the way he thinks and that the way he thinks is going to affect the lives of... oh I don't know. THE ENTIRE WORLD? Which with Trump didn't really happen in the public sphere UNTIL he busted in to politics where it's all about what your opinions are for running an entire country and you espouse views that have political ramifications across the globe..

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Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.



I love how you're bluntly trying to say that Trump's ideas are at all good or right. His wall is retarded and wrong. We were all born on this planet, we were all born into the same species. You have no more right than those illegal immigrants to be here. It may be illegal, but what they are doing sure as hell isn't MORALLY WRONG. Nor is it right for him take away government support systems. Millions of people will DIE if that happens. All because of a few outliers who abuse the system and are way too insignificant to actually affect things in the first place.

And the ultimate irony of it is? That the real cause of the financial issues in the US is because of the 1% ONLY. The very people Trump is a part of. How can you vote for the guy that is the closest thing to a REAL example of "The Illuminati"? Do you not know who the real enemy is? Do you not know who the 1% is? All of our current problems are caused by the fact that 1% of the population is ROBBING the rest of the country. It's a proven fact because they sit on such an unfathomable amount of money that could not possibly have been gained fairly. And it's obvious where all that money came from. It came from everybody else in the country. There is a wage gap between the 1% and the rest of the population so large that the 1% has single handedly causes the Poor to become Poverty Stricken, the Middle Class to become the new Poor, and the Rich to become the new Middle Class. They literally downsized everybody else and even caused widespread poverty in a first world nation. That is the current state of affairs and D Trump is one of those 1% wall street motherfuckers. So miss me with the bullshit.

Also, the absolute worst part is that you seem to actually buy Trump's shtick about how "politicians are corrupt". You realize he himself is a politician? You realize how retardingly hypocritical that message is? He says "politicians are corrupt", proceeds to be a politician, and has a huge history of corruption before he even was one.

I mean fuck. Bernie Sanders was the actual representation of a politician who acknowledged the corruption in the system without being corrupt himself. And he only ran for president from the beginning to make sure Trump wouldn't get in. So the ACTUAL guy that had the ACTUAL voice that represented the people's concerns and feelings. Was the same guy who dedicated his whole campaign to stopping trump. Yet you think TRUMP is "The One" HERPDERPDERPDERP
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Occupy someone else's head. I don't have room in mine for anarchist/socialist pablum.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

"Just prior to President Obama's 2014 State of the Union Address, media[4] reported that the top wealthiest 1% possess 40% of the nation’s wealth; the bottom 80% own 7% ; similarly, but later, the media reported, the "richest 1 percent in the United States now own more additional income than the bottom 90 percent".[5] The gap between the top 10% and the middle class is over 1,000% ; that increases another 1,000% for the top 1% . The average employee "needs to work more than a month to earn what the CEO earns in one hour."[6] Although different from income inequality, the two are related. In Inequality for All—a 2013 documentary with Robert Reich in which he argued that income inequality is the defining issue for the United States—Reich states that 95% of economic gains went to the top 1% net worth (HNWI) since 2009 when the recovery allegedly started.[7]

A 2011 study found that US citizens across the political spectrum dramatically underestimate the current US wealth inequality and would prefer a far more egalitarian distribution of wealth.[8]"

I'm sorry. You were saying? The gap between you and the 1% is factually 2000% . 1% of the country, should not be able to own 40% of the country's wealth. Not to mention that 80% of the country ONLY OWNS % 7 OF THE WEALTH. That is downright TYRANNY!
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I'm not jealous of people who make a lot of money.

Your Bernie got bought off for a nice house and car on the coast. He's not immune to the trappings of money, so you can stop right there.

The thing that DOES piss me off is those corporations who use their money to influence government policies, and get nice little bennies for their contributions. You think the Clintons aren't covered in shit up to their eyeballs in this? Both sides of the establishment elite are. So you think it will get any better with her? You think somehow your pockets will be fatter under a Clinton administration? Pfft.

Your best bet is to remove the government from laundering your education dollars through the big banks and universities, making college truly affordable. Completely revamping health INSURANCE to what it was originally intended for (catastrophic circumstances)

, allowing doctors to actually TREAT you (did you know that it's actually CHEAPER to see a doctor who doesn't accept insurance and allows his patients to pay on a gee for servicr basis?). To make it feesible for businesses to expand and hire, and give RAISES by reducing business taxes and over-burdensome regulations, effectively creating more taxable income (and more people who pay)?

So, you get to have a JOB that naturally pays more than minimum wage, presumably due to your being able to afford college, and then maybe you'll make enough money so that you don't feel entitled to someone else's.





And you'll be too busy MAKING MONEY to ramble like you know something about something.



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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂



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hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂




hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
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Ummmmm......

Ask yourself a question WHO, SPECIFICALLY..... "Openly" "HATES" you?

Would you rather they "Privately" hate you?

Have you ever met Donald Trump? No—? If not, How then, can he "HATE" you, if he doesn't KNOW you—

He doesn't even know you exist. Likewise is true for Hillary.

So what makes you think that Hillary and the liberals actually "Love" you?

Are you the recipient of freebies—?

On the subject of "Division" Do you live in a house/apt, without walls, windows and doors and locks?

Understand what politicians do - They will say and do ANYTHING to get a vote.

When you vote, remember, there's a 99% chance the politician you're voting for, LIED to you.

Do you approve of lying? Do you love it when someone lies to you? Are you a sick puppy?

Did you know that you can vote for yourself? Just write your own name in the box.

Think about it -
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂




hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...


Ummmmm......

Ask yourself a question WHO, SPECIFICALLY..... "Openly" "HATES" you?

Would you rather they "Privately" hate you?

Have you ever met Donald Trump? No—? If not, How then, can he "HATE" you, if he doesn't KNOW you—

He doesn't even know you exist. Likewise is true for Hillary.

So what makes you think that Hillary and the liberals actually "Love" you?

Are you the recipient of freebies—?

On the subject of "Division" Do you live in a house/apt, without walls, windows and doors and locks?

Understand what politicians do - They will say and do ANYTHING to get a vote.

When you vote, remember, there's a 99% chance the politician you're voting for, LIED to you.

Do you approve of lying? Do you love it when someone lies to you? Are you a sick puppy?

Did you know that you can vote for yourself? Just write your own name in the box.

Think about it -
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is it me or is hillary getting smaller and smaller and smaller in all this banter—

hmmm... let's see if MrFirebird can make her the incredible shrinking woman.
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂




hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...


Ummmmm......

Ask yourself a question WHO, SPECIFICALLY..... "Openly" "HATES" you?

Would you rather they "Privately" hate you?

Have you ever met Donald Trump? No—? If not, How then, can he "HATE" you, if he doesn't KNOW you—

He doesn't even know you exist. Likewise is true for Hillary.

So what makes you think that Hillary and the liberals actually "Love" you?

Are you the recipient of freebies—?

On the subject of "Division" Do you live in a house/apt, without walls, windows and doors and locks?

Understand what politicians do - They will say and do ANYTHING to get a vote.

When you vote, remember, there's a 99% chance the politician you're voting for, LIED to you.

Do you approve of lying? Do you love it when someone lies to you? Are you a sick puppy?

Did you know that you can vote for yourself? Just write your own name in the box.

Think about it -
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ummmm...if you hate black people ...then you hate me .— its pretty simple ? unless I have misunderstood ..why you are trying to say?
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂




hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...


Ummmmm......

Ask yourself a question WHO, SPECIFICALLY..... "Openly" "HATES" you?

Would you rather they "Privately" hate you?

Have you ever met Donald Trump? No—? If not, How then, can he "HATE" you, if he doesn't KNOW you—

He doesn't even know you exist. Likewise is true for Hillary.

So what makes you think that Hillary and the liberals actually "Love" you?

Are you the recipient of freebies—?

On the subject of "Division" Do you live in a house/apt, without walls, windows and doors and locks?

Understand what politicians do - They will say and do ANYTHING to get a vote.

When you vote, remember, there's a 99% chance the politician you're voting for, LIED to you.

Do you approve of lying? Do you love it when someone lies to you? Are you a sick puppy?

Did you know that you can vote for yourself? Just write your own name in the box.

Think about it -
ummmm...if you hate black people ...then you hate me .— its pretty simple ? unless I have misunderstood ..why you are trying to say?
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Do me a favor, will you. PLEASE.... find a video where Donald Trump had actually said "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE"

I bet you cannot find it I want to actually hear him say "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE". IF you can find a video of him

saying that about Blacks and Mexicans. Otherwise, that claim is suspect to be a lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement

I think this man has gone over the deep end and is about to burst a jugular.



There is a HUGE difference between "Hating someone" and "hating what they do".

Read that again and think about it.

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hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
While it would take a while to explain for which I do not have time at the moment it is not hate, but anger. And not mindless anger, but anger with a purpose.

That type of anger manifested in 2010 with the Tea Party movement, and with the collusion of members of both parties and various agencies like the IRS was tamped down.

Anger at promises by one party to repeal the ACA (which has not made health care more affordable or more available) while the same party continues to fund the ACA via continuing resolutions.

Anger at crimes committed by high officials that would get the average Joe a prison sentence while said officials walk free and continue to engage in criminal acts.

Anger at being mocked by self- style d elites who live in a bubble, who continue policies that enrich their "club" at the expense of the greater public.

I could continue to list what is driving it, but at least that anger is being channeled constructively by supporting someone who may actually act to change the status quo. The alternative caused Marie Antoinette to lose her head.

'Nuff said.
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂




hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...


Ummmmm......

Ask yourself a question WHO, SPECIFICALLY..... "Openly" "HATES" you?

Would you rather they "Privately" hate you?

Have you ever met Donald Trump? No—? If not, How then, can he "HATE" you, if he doesn't KNOW you—

He doesn't even know you exist. Likewise is true for Hillary.

So what makes you think that Hillary and the liberals actually "Love" you?

Are you the recipient of freebies—?

On the subject of "Division" Do you live in a house/apt, without walls, windows and doors and locks?

Understand what politicians do - They will say and do ANYTHING to get a vote.

When you vote, remember, there's a 99% chance the politician you're voting for, LIED to you.

Do you approve of lying? Do you love it when someone lies to you? Are you a sick puppy?

Did you know that you can vote for yourself? Just write your own name in the box.

Think about it -
ummmm...if you hate black people ...then you hate me .— its pretty simple ? unless I have misunderstood ..why you are trying to say?


Do me a favor, will you. PLEASE.... find a video where Donald Trump had actually said "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE"

I bet you cannot find it I want to actually hear him say "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE". IF you can find a video of him

saying that about Blacks and Mexicans. Otherwise, that claim is suspect to be a lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement

I think this man has gone over the deep end and is about to burst a jugular.



There is a HUGE difference between "Hating someone" and "hating what they do".

Read that again and think about it.



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but why should I be blamed for what someone else has done....are you held responsible for every lunatic in the white race? ? and you shouldn't be
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hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
While it would take a while to explain for which I do not have time at the moment it is not hate, but anger. And not mindless anger, but anger with a purpose.

That type of anger manifested in 2010 with the Tea Party movement, and with the collusion of members of both parties and various agencies like the IRS was tamped down.

Anger at promises by one party to repeal the ACA (which has not made health care more affordable or more available) while the same party continues to fund the ACA via continuing resolutions.

Anger at crimes committed by high officials that would get the average Joe a prison sentence while said officials walk free and continue to engage in criminal acts.

Anger at being mocked by self- style d elites who live in a bubble, who continue policies that enrich their "club" at the expense of the greater public.

I could continue to list what is driving it, but at least that anger is being channeled constructively by supporting someone who may actually act to change the status quo. The alternative caused Marie Antoinette to lose her head.

'Nuff said.

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I get this and I wish more republicans that I know were like you...this makes sense to me ....I can understand what your saying and even agree with some of your points ....the people that I am exposed to that are trump supporters dont' think like this...but at least I can understand why he has supporters based on your info ...thanks for that...
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hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
While it would take a while to explain for which I do not have time at the moment it is not hate, but anger. And not mindless anger, but anger with a purpose.

That type of anger manifested in 2010 with the Tea Party movement, and with the collusion of members of both parties and various agencies like the IRS was tamped down.

Anger at promises by one party to repeal the ACA (which has not made health care more affordable or more available) while the same party continues to fund the ACA via continuing resolutions.

Anger at crimes committed by high officials that would get the average Joe a prison sentence while said officials walk free and continue to engage in criminal acts.

Anger at being mocked by self- style d elites who live in a bubble, who continue policies that enrich their "club" at the expense of the greater public.

I could continue to list what is driving it, but at least that anger is being channeled constructively by supporting someone who may actually act to change the status quo. The alternative caused Marie Antoinette to lose her head.

'Nuff said.


I get this and I wish more republicans that I know were like you...this makes sense to me ....I can understand what your saying and even agree with some of your points ....the people that I am exposed to that are trump supporters dont' think like this...but at least I can understand why he has supporters based on your info ...thanks for that...
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I think if you REALLY spent time listening and talking to them, you'd discover that these supporters aren't in the minority. And that Hillary/Obama has offered nothing other than what we're angry about, along with division (us/them based in social class, race, income, gender/s). They don't see people, they see soldiers for a cause, their cause, and votes. I seriously request that you look behind the curtain at your leaders and what they want to accomplish.
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hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
While it would take a while to explain for which I do not have time at the moment it is not hate, but anger. And not mindless anger, but anger with a purpose.

That type of anger manifested in 2010 with the Tea Party movement, and with the collusion of members of both parties and various agencies like the IRS was tamped down.

Anger at promises by one party to repeal the ACA (which has not made health care more affordable or more available) while the same party continues to fund the ACA via continuing resolutions.

Anger at crimes committed by high officials that would get the average Joe a prison sentence while said officials walk free and continue to engage in criminal acts.

Anger at being mocked by self- style d elites who live in a bubble, who continue policies that enrich their "club" at the expense of the greater public.

I could continue to list what is driving it, but at least that anger is being channeled constructively by supporting someone who may actually act to change the status quo. The alternative caused Marie Antoinette to lose her head.

'Nuff said.


I get this and I wish more republicans that I know were like you...this makes sense to me ....I can understand what your saying and even agree with some of your points ....the people that I am exposed to that are trump supporters dont' think like this...but at least I can understand why he has supporters based on your info ...thanks for that...


I think if you REALLY spent time listening and talking to them, you'd discover that these supporters aren't in the minority. And that Hillary/Obama has offered nothing other than what we're angry about, along with division (us/them based in social class, race, income, gender/s). They don't see people, they see soldiers for a cause, their cause, and votes. I seriously request that you look behind the curtain at your leaders and what they want to accomplish.

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I HAVE ....listened them....I really have listen(which is more of a courtesy than they have given me) ...they have never said anything even CLOSE to cancer on the cusp post

I"m talking friends, coworkers ...hell even trump himself during the debate ...didn't make as much sense as cancer on the cusp post ...
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hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...
While it would take a while to explain for which I do not have time at the moment it is not hate, but anger. And not mindless anger, but anger with a purpose.

That type of anger manifested in 2010 with the Tea Party movement, and with the collusion of members of both parties and various agencies like the IRS was tamped down.

Anger at promises by one party to repeal the ACA (which has not made health care more affordable or more available) while the same party continues to fund the ACA via continuing resolutions.

Anger at crimes committed by high officials that would get the average Joe a prison sentence while said officials walk free and continue to engage in criminal acts.

Anger at being mocked by self- style d elites who live in a bubble, who continue policies that enrich their "club" at the expense of the greater public.

I could continue to list what is driving it, but at least that anger is being channeled constructively by supporting someone who may actually act to change the status quo. The alternative caused Marie Antoinette to lose her head.

'Nuff said.


I get this and I wish more republicans that I know were like you...this makes sense to me ....I can understand what your saying and even agree with some of your points ....the people that I am exposed to that are trump supporters dont' think like this...but at least I can understand why he has supporters based on your info ...thanks for that...


I think if you REALLY spent time listening and talking to them, you'd discover that these supporters aren't in the minority. And that Hillary/Obama has offered nothing other than what we're angry about, along with division (us/them based in social class, race, income, gender/s). They don't see people, they see soldiers for a cause, their cause, and votes. I seriously request that you look behind the curtain at your leaders and what they want to accomplish.


I HAVE ....listened them....I really have listen(which is more of a courtesy than they have given me) ...they have never said anything even CLOSE to cancer on the cusp post

I"m talking friends, coworkers ...hell even trump himself during the debate ...didn't make as much sense as cancer on the cusp post ...
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Well I'm glad that he was able to explain it in a way that makes sense to you.

Most regular Americans aren't politically astute; they just know when things aren't right. Trying to figure out what the core issues are isn't easy unless you've been paying attention. Most people are just trying to keep their heads above water and provide for their families. They wake up every 4 years and then have to come up with some kind of cogent argument for one side or the other.

I'm sure that CotC or myself would be happy to engage in real political discussion with someone open-minded, even if we still disagree at the end of it all.

But honestly, everything comes down to differences in political philosophy and not about identity politics. Most people aren't interested in that and so we make it about hate, racism, elitism, emotion, and any number of useless distractions. It's why I don't generally like getting involved in political discussions.
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Anyways what are they telling us to do? You're not a trump supporter are you? Because you really shouldn't go full retard like that. Trump is still the worse evil, FYI.

You're only 23, you're excused from knowing just how evil that woman is.



I just love how you're skipping over how evil Trump is. Worst shit hillary has done is delete some emails she wasn't supposed to and embezzled like one time.

Trump? Has caused the downfall of every company he's been involved with, and that's a lot of companies btw. A lot of people with families who lost jobs. Not to mention that Trump is pretty serious about his little wall, which is retarded and wrong unto itself. Not to mention that he'll basically get rid of most government support systems like Food Stamps and SSI.

I'm sorry but just any way you cut it. It doesn't matter how evil you think she is, there is no way she beats out Donald Motherfucking Trump. And it disturbs me that it seems almost as if you don't agree with this at all, or even think he is evil at all.
#1 Wrong. Her corruption and shady deals go back to her time as the Governor's wife. They were infamous in Arkansas for their questionable dealings.



#2 His businesses are doing just fine. If he destroyed every business he started, his properties wouldn't have the reputation they have.

Don't you find it interesting that with all his time in the public sphere, he hasn't had a bad reputation? Only when he runs for president against the powers-that-be he all of a sudden has all this mud thrown at him. They just don't like the idea that their gravy train may be coming to an end.

Whereas Hillary and Bill have dodged accusations of actual criminal misdoings since he was Governor.




he had a bad rep...before he was running for president too...for the better part of 20 plus years...its only a big deal now ...cause he isn't gonna be some random joe ...but possibly our country's leader
Did he really? I don't recall at the time (prior to his running or considering running, which was in 2012) hearing much other than comments about his personality. Please reference anything prior to 2012 that was said about him in terms of racism, homophobia, or shady business dealings.

We have a 30 year public record of Hillary.


well....the stuff about donald trump is out there ...and so is the stuff on hillary ..just b/c I like hillary (I mean I always have liked her) I won't pretend that she hasn't done some shady shit ....for sure ...but I don't understand why SOME (not necessarily you ) trump supporters refuse to acknowledge things that the said ...last month or last week?
I do cringe when I hear some of the things he says, but I don't ascribe the same nefarious intent that those on the left seem to. Whenever someone opposes the thoughts on the left, all kinds of crazy reaching and mental gymnastics is required to make it fit into their narrative. Listen, I've been around the block once or twice. There were others I might have liked to see as the Republican nominee, or even a sane Libertarian, but that's not who was chosen. And quite frankly, I think his temperment is the right one for the times. Maybe, just maybe, he'll make a dent in the size of, and corruption in, government. Any of the other Republicans seem not to have the cojones to stand up to it (or they're on the take too).

So he's not eloquent. Pretty words don't get things done, and the devil can speak beautiful words.

What I don't get is why you want that woman, with all her negative history, in the oval office. She doesn't deserve anything but a striped pantsuit and a 10x10 bedroom with bars on it.


did you watch that video? ...just watch it ....everything he has said is FALSE ..things that he has built his whole campaign around...lies ...FEAR...and you know RACIST, SEXIST, bullshit ...

why should I give someone vote that openly hates me ....

why should I give my vote to someone who thinks that I don't deserve the same rights as the next person

......

the fact is trump has marginalized himself ...and his supporters don't see why? HOW? did you hear his answer on how to bridge the racial divide on the debates ...on MONDAY ...
Not lies, and I don't think fear. That fear is coming from inside of you. I support strong borders for nothing more than to preserve a way of life that has been an inspiration to the world. Mexico is building a WALL on their southern border, France is considering a WALL on their borders, Germany just pounded Merkel because of her position on immigration, we are moving the OPPOSITE direction. I see no reason why the US shouldn't be able to do the same as Mexico or France. The 2 main purposes of our government are to secure it's people (borders) and to provide for the common welfare (not the welfare state). This is our Constitution. Not fear, but love of country is what is motivating MOST of Trump's supporters.

And quite honestly, I haven't seen a division in this country like we have now in my LIFE. And I do directly attribute it to the leader we have right now in the WH, and the "engagement" of the left to push social order to the brink, in an effort to destroy the foundation of our country and rebuild it into something else. And it's not going to be the utopian dreamland you wish it would be. My dad came from one of those utopias and I can tell you, it's an illusion. It has been marching in that direction since the 40's, and has ramped up exponentially in the last 15 years. That may be something you would like to see, but I think you should be very careful what you wish for.

One of us is going to be disappointed in November. And I don't think this is an ordinary election. Not because of who is running, but because the stakes ARE high.

OK, off my soapbox now. 🙂




hate is driving what most trump supporters ...they HATE hillary or they HATE obama or they HATE muslims or they HATE black people..or they HATE mexicans or they HATE immigrants....because the rhetoric that trump has used ...has told them that its okay to HATE ...its better to be divided ..TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN...is to make america white again...to make america great again ..means make america DIVIDED again... I WONT GIVE MY VOTE SOMEONE WHO OPENLY HATES ME...


Ummmmm......

Ask yourself a question WHO, SPECIFICALLY..... "Openly" "HATES" you?

Would you rather they "Privately" hate you?

Have you ever met Donald Trump? No—? If not, How then, can he "HATE" you, if he doesn't KNOW you—

He doesn't even know you exist. Likewise is true for Hillary.

So what makes you think that Hillary and the liberals actually "Love" you?

Are you the recipient of freebies—?

On the subject of "Division" Do you live in a house/apt, without walls, windows and doors and locks?

Understand what politicians do - They will say and do ANYTHING to get a vote.

When you vote, remember, there's a 99% chance the politician you're voting for, LIED to you.

Do you approve of lying? Do you love it when someone lies to you? Are you a sick puppy?

Did you know that you can vote for yourself? Just write your own name in the box.

Think about it -
ummmm...if you hate black people ...then you hate me .— its pretty simple ? unless I have misunderstood ..why you are trying to say?


Do me a favor, will you. PLEASE.... find a video where Donald Trump had actually said "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE"

I bet you cannot find it I want to actually hear him say "I HATE BLACK PEOPLE". IF you can find a video of him

saying that about Blacks and Mexicans. Otherwise, that claim is suspect to be a lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement

I think this man has gone over the deep end and is about to burst a jugular.



There is a HUGE difference between "Hating someone" and "hating what they do".

Read that again and think about it.




but why should I be blamed for what someone else has done....are you held responsible for every lunatic in the white race? ? and you shouldn't be
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No, because I am NOT white.