Shooting in Paris (Page 7)

Posted by tripleCap

Posted by Qbone
Give me a break..! Even a wooden horse knows that this incident is a work of MOOSAD & co. as to respond to frencheies support for the Palestinian independent state.

Fuck Israhell and their supporters??_

Just to clarify... journalist Abby Martin is the voice of reason.


Hmm...


Paris Attack Smacks of False Flag


http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=995<BR>



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And yes??_ yes.. YES??_


This shit oozes of the mossad (overseas) operations. Thank you by posting Brother Nathanael..! time to time people need to be smacked??_

Thank you.

1. Soumission (English: Submission) is a novel by the French writer Michel Houellebecq... published on 7 January 2015 by Flammarion.

2. Plot:
... in the France of 2022, the brilliant and cunning politician, Mohammed Ben Abbes, candidate of the fictional Muslim Fraternity, wins the presidential election and becomes president of the country. He pacifies France, enacts sweeping changes to French laws, privatizing the French University, putting the equality between men and women to an end, allowing polygamy, and enlarges the European Union to make it a new Roman Empire, with France as its lead.
!!!! In this new, different society, ... Fran?ois converts to Islam and finds a second, better life, with a prestigious job and wives chosen for him.


3. On 5 January 2015, French president Fran?ois Hollande announced in an interview for France Inter radio that "he would read the book, because it's sparking a debate".


4. The author appeared in a caricature on the front page of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on 7 January 2015, the day when the offices of the newspaper were attacked by masked gunmen who killed eight Charlie Hebdo employees.


5. Reception:
5.1. After the release, the book placed at the top of bestseller list of the French division of the online retailer Amazon.

5.2. Houellebecq: — ??_ I can't say that the book is a provocation...??

5.3. Charlie Hebdo: — There's a real disdain in this country for all the authorities... Something has to change...??

5.4. Marine Le Pen: — ??_ it's a fiction that could one day become reality.??

5.5. Steven Poole: — ??_ The real target ... — as in his previous novels — is the predictably manipulable venality and lustfulness of the modern metropolitan man, intellectual or otherwise.??

5.6 The Economist magazine: — ??_ Emmanuel Carr?re, compared Soumission to George Orwell's 1984.??

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Posted by Qbone
Give me a break..! Even a wooden horse knows that this incident is a work of MOOSAD & co. as to respond to frencheies support for the Palestinian independent state.

Fuck Israhell and their supporters??_

Inb4 this guy is accused of being antisemitic followed by blocks

Block all you can idiot, you can't hide the truth??_

I'm actually agreeing with you, dumbass!

Truth doesn't matter...

Jews are great schemers, nothing can stop at all, your cynicism only fuels them.

You are agreeing with me dumbass..??

Jews suffered by being Jews,

Is scamming somebody called " suffering?"

If yes then Jews are the most suffering, Q-Bone.

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You??ve got it all wrong mates.

Scamming/blackmailing or holding the entire world as hostage is the results of being zionazi not being Jewish, I beg to differ.

Again??_ fuck the Israhell and their supporters.

Seraph

I see that you are still busy kissing your zionazi master??s asses, let me know when you grow up. Probably never will happen anyway.

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Posted by e11e
I've stayed away from this topic and just watched it unfold....because I have mixed feelings.

However, this bothered me this morning because it stirred up those feelings......

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/14/dieudonne-arrest-facebook-post-charlie-coulibaly-paris-gunman<BR>
If the point is to practice 'free speech'....then why arrest this man for doing so?

You can't have it both ways. That's not right.

Was wondering the same thing this morning..

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Social media is monitored by terrorist factions as well with an eye towards possible recruitment.

This guy coulda been signaling his intent to join...you never know.

Freedom of speech.. Isn't it..??

http://time.com/3667262/charlie-hebdo-dieudonne-arrest/<BR>
Works only one way??_ fucking hypocrites??_

Posted by Wynter

12 prior convictions-- interesting.

1. ant not aunt

2. Environmental contamination

3. hidden

Posted by Montgomery

12 prior convictions-- interesting.

Really? My research shows 8..all minor fines. I guess I should keep researching.

Here's the "horrible" facebook post which includes a plea to the interior minister....


"In a Facebook post that was swiftly deleted, the comic said he felt like "Charlie Coulibaly" — merging the names of Charlie Hebdo and Amedy Coulibaly, the gunman who killed four hostages at a kosher market Friday, a day after he killed a Paris policewoman.

In a separate post, the comic wrote an open letter to France's interior minister.

"Whenever I speak, you do not try to understand what I'm trying to say, you do not want to listen to me. You are looking for a pretext to forbid me. You consider me like Amedy Coulibaly when I am not any different from Charlie," he wrote."

This is a man who FOUGHT the french against Racism...

"Dieudonn? initially achieved success with a Jewish comedian, ??lie Semoun, humorously exploiting racial stereotypes. He campaigned against racism and was a candidate in the 1997 and 2001 legislative elections in Dreux against the National Front, the French far-right political party that he perceived as racist.

On 1 December 2003, Dieudonn? performed a sketch on a TV show about an Israeli settlerwhom he depicted as a Nazi. Some critics argued that he had "crossed the limits of antisemitism" and several organizations sued him for incitement to racial hatred."

It's very clear how far the French's HATE will go. Political power backed with HATE will surely win every time. We all know that, look at what he's going to prison for.

Thanks for the chuckles of late though, it speaks mega volumes of those here who support hypocrisy.

Hate is HATE no matter how you look at it. My point here...is simply, it's either Freedom of Speech or it isn't. This arrest says some citizens of France are not allowed to have Freedom of Speech.

I simply cannot find that "exception" in French Law.

Yea...there's 9 here one of which is for tax evasion...and ironically Charlie Hebdo practiced the exact same things. Now that's interesting...

Court actions
On 14 June 2006, Dieudonn? was sentenced to a penalty of ?

Posted by e11e
As I don't personally agree with what either party stands for, Dieudonn? or Charlie Hebdo....I do see very clearly that both are practicing their right of free speech.

I see the same. Which is why I am expecting for the charges to be dropped in that trial and him found not guilty. I'll have to wait for that.

Unless they can prove intent to harm which they couldn't prove with Charlie, he will walk away. I see the arrest as a result of emotions running amock in France.

But I don't have all the details on this, other than what what we get in the press. With Charlie, I read the case transcript. I'll do the same here, as soon as a verdict is reached.

I'll state my personal opinion on the difference I perceive between him and charlie this weekend when I can go over some things. But even that difference I see should not and I expect it not to be more self-righteous than what the law will decide.

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Posted by e11e
As I don't personally agree with what either party stands for, Dieudonn? or Charlie Hebdo....I do see very clearly that both are practicing their right of free speech.

I see the same. Which is why I am expecting for the charges to be dropped in that trial and him found not guilty. I'll have to wait for that.

Unless they can prove intent to harm which they couldn't prove with Charlie, he will walk away. I see the arrest as a result of emotions running amock in France.

But I don't have all the details on this, other than what what we get in the press. With Charlie, I read the case transcript. I'll do the same here, as soon as a verdict is reached.

I'll state my personal opinion on the difference I perceive between him and charlie this weekend when I can go over some things. But even that difference I see should not and I expect it not to be more self-righteous than what the law will decide.

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Hebdo was an equal opportunity satirist--

Catholics and Jews etc. were not exempt, lest we forget.


Also

I'm not sure why saying


I disagree with your politics...


is being equated with


You should be killed [in the gas chambers] for your politics...

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Posted by Damnata

Posted by e11e
As I don't personally agree with what either party stands for, Dieudonn? or Charlie Hebdo....I do see very clearly that both are practicing their right of free speech.

I see the same. Which is why I am expecting for the charges to be dropped in that trial and him found not guilty. I'll have to wait for that.

Unless they can prove intent to harm which they couldn't prove with Charlie, he will walk away. I see the arrest as a result of emotions running amock in France.

But I don't have all the details on this, other than what what we get in the press. With Charlie, I read the case transcript. I'll do the same here, as soon as a verdict is reached.

I'll state my personal opinion on the difference I perceive between him and charlie this weekend when I can go over some things. But even that difference I see should not and I expect it not to be more self-righteous than what the law will decide.

Hebdo was an equal opportunity satirist--

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This is what I intend to expand on. As well as the French satirist who was fired from Charlie because he was anti-semitic.

I'll bring up again the difference between satire mocking society at large and openly targetting one group.

I just need time to understand what the comedian was about and what exactly happened. I am really curious how this will go over in court.

Posted by e11e
@Monty

So, if I offend everyone......my free speech is protected?

and

if I only offend one group of people.....my free speech is against the law?

If you offend everyone you offend society at large and it's literally everyone. You don't have an agenda to oppress one group of people

vs

In the second case it is hate speech because you're fixated on one group.

Both cases, you need to prove intent. That's why I want to see the proof they have and what exactly are taking to court. I need to research a bit further.

Posted by e11e
These free speech *rules* are way too messy and grey for me to comprehend anymore.

This is where I see the difference in culture. I can't think like an American on satire laws because there is no equivalent on satire newspapers there. I saw someone bring up MAD magazine..it's still not close to the mark.

I can only filter the difference on my perception but I still have to see if the laws agree with my mindset.

Posted by e11e
These free speech *rules* are way too messy and grey for me to comprehend anymore.

This is where I see the difference in culture. I can't think like an American on satire laws because there is no equivalent on satire newspapers there. I saw someone bring up MAD magazine..it's still not close to the mark.

I can only filter the difference on my perception but I still have to see if the laws agree with my mindset.

I'll be back.

I'll be back.

Posted by Montgomery


Hebdo was an equal opportunity satirist--

Catholics and Jews etc. were not exempt, lest we forget.


Also

I'm not sure why saying


I disagree with your politics...


is being equated with


You should be killed [in the gas chambers] for your politics...

It's FREE SPEECH...your point?

Posted by Damnata

I see the arrest as a result of emotions running amock in France.

....in short French muslims and jews aren't allowed to have emotions or free speech.


Got it.

Posted by e11e
@Monty

So, if I offend everyone......my free speech is protected?

and

if I only offend one group of people.....my free speech is against the law?

Nope.

I'm pointing out that Hebdo was not singling out anyone, or

any group, as some would have us believe-- but ideologies

they didn't support.


Nor were they suggesting that any of those they lampooned ought

to be murdered for the politics or religious ideologies they did

not support, themselves.


You and I can disagree politically (or otherwise)-- at no time, however,

do I think either one of us would attempt to rally others around the

idea that the other ought to be murdered for holding that opposing view.

next budgeting plans?
data collection plans...
supervision...

After US/UK police state this (false flag operation) is an opportunity to run the police state at heart of Europe.

Mr. Paul Craig Roberts wrote:

The Charlie Hebdo affair has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation. The attack on the cartoonists?? office was a disciplined professional attack of the kind associated with highly trained special forces; yet the suspects who were later corralled and killed seemed bumbling and unprofessional. It is like two different sets of people.

Usually Muslim terrorists are prepared to die in the attack; yet the two professionals who hit Charlie Hebdo were determined to escape and succeeded, an amazing feat. Their identity was allegedly established by the claim that they conveniently left for the authorities their ID in the getaway car. Such a mistake is inconsistent with the professionalism of the attack and reminds me of the undamaged passport found miraculously among the ruins of the two WTC towers that served to establish the identity of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.

It is a plausible inference that the ID left behind in the getaway car was the ID of the two Kouachi brothers, convenient patsies, later killed by police, and from whom we will never hear anything, and not the ID of the professionals who attacked Charlie Hebdo. An important fact that supports this inference is the report that the third suspect in the attack, Hamyd Mourad, the alleged driver of the getaway car, when seeing his name circulating on social media as a suspect realized the danger he was in and quickly turned himself into the police for protection against being murdered by security forces as a terrorist

Rest at his website??_

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/13/charlie-hebdo-paul-craig-roberts/<BR>

As I said earlier..

The whole god damn thing oozes of conspiracies against the particular members of the society, mocking of the Muslims has become sort of tradition in France while saying one world against these zionazi maggots and you??ll end up in jail no matter where you come from.

From wiki:

Laws against Holocaust denial have been enforced in most jurisdictions that have them. The accused are only allowed to plead insanity, or guilt. They are not allowed to simply say "I'm right,". Notable convictions and sentencings to November 2009 include😄ate Name Country Sentence

(various) Jean-Marie Le Pen France, Germany fines[56]

Feb. 27, 1998 Roger Garaudy France imprisonment (suspended), —240,000 fine[57]

Jul. 21, 1998 J?_rgen Graf Switzerland 15 months' imprisonment (fled Switzerland to avoid sentence)[58]

Jul. 21, 1998 Gerhard F?rster Switzerland 12 months' imprisonment, disgorgement[59]

April 8, 1999 Fredrick T?ben Australia 7 months' imprisonment Mannheim, Germany - retrial - 2011

indefinitely stayed by judge Dr Meinerzhagen. October 1 - November 19, 2008, London, extradition to Mannheim,
Germany, on European Arrest Warrant issued by Germany, failed. August 15 - November 12, 2009, Adelaide, Australia - for contempt of court because he refused to stop questioning the Holocaust's 3 basics: 6 million, systematic state extermination, gas chambers as murder weapon.

May 27, 1999 Jean Plantin France 6 months' imprisonment (suspended), fine, damages[60]

Apr. 11, 2000 Gaston-Armand Amaudruz Switzerland 1 year imprisonment, damages[61]

Feb. 20, 2006 David Irving Austria 1 year imprisonment[62]

Mar. 15, 2006 Germar Rudolf Germany 2?_ years' imprisonment[63]

Oct. 3, 2006 Robert Faurisson France ?

Posted by Qbone
After US/UK police state this (false flag operation) is an opportunity to run the police state at heart of Europe.

Mr. Paul Craig Roberts wrote:

The Charlie Hebdo affair has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation. The attack on the cartoonists?? office was a disciplined professional attack of the kind associated with highly trained special forces; yet the suspects who were later corralled and killed seemed bumbling and unprofessional. It is like two different sets of people.

Usually Muslim terrorists are prepared to die in the attack; yet the two professionals who hit Charlie Hebdo were determined to escape and succeeded, an amazing feat. Their identity was allegedly established by the claim that they conveniently left for the authorities their ID in the getaway car. Such a mistake is inconsistent with the professionalism of the attack and reminds me of the undamaged passport found miraculously among the ruins of the two WTC towers that served to establish the identity of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.

It is a plausible inference that the ID left behind in the getaway car was the ID of the two Kouachi brothers, convenient patsies, later killed by police, and from whom we will never hear anything, and not the ID of the professionals who attacked Charlie Hebdo. An important fact that supports this inference is the report that the third suspect in the attack, Hamyd Mourad, the alleged driver of the getaway car, when seeing his name circulating on social media as a suspect realized the danger he was in and quickly turned himself into the police for protection against being murdered by security forces as a terrorist

Rest at his website??_

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/13/charlie-hebdo-paul-craig-roberts/<BR>

I'm not big on conspiracy theories but I will say that it does seem odd ID was left behind. As a matter of fact I made that comment early on, it was puzzling to me.

Aquapiscescusp

Let's say??_ even common bank rubbers don't carry around ID let alone their real ID??_ it is not a usual thing to do, as mentioned, in 9/11 incident the engine of the plane never be found (made of titanium alloy and steel) but??_. But.. A passport made of paper and plastic make it through in that chaos of dust, fire and rubbles and amazingly was the passport of one of the terrorists too!

Perhaps it was believable by the public 13 years ago??_ but today..?

Same shits happen again but in a different time..!

Butt then??_

Consider this fact that the France was to recognizing the statehood of the Palestinian government in U.N summit just a couple of weeks ago but met with the harsh disapprovement of the zionazi state of the Israhell, In fact they got sort of warning like (watch where you are going).

As long as israhell exist this crap will happen again and again??_ yesterday was communists... today are Muslims??_ I am sure next will be Christians ??_

Remove this fucking illegal state of the zionazi and we??ll have much better world to live.

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Aquapiscescusp

Let's say??_ even common bank rubbers don't carry around ID let alone their real ID??_ it is not a usual thing to do, as mentioned, in 9/11 incident the engine of the plane never be found (made of titanium alloy and steel) but??_. But.. A passport made of paper and plastic make it through in that chaos of dust, fire and rubbles and amazingly was the passport of one of the terrorists too!

Perhaps it was believable by the public 13 years ago??_ but today..?

Same shits happen again but in a different time..!

Exactly....right now what's going on in Europe is like Jackass George Bush on crack & angel dust. French/European Political authorities are going nuts based on paranoia. Whoever set this up (*if* this was set up)...knew exactly what they were doing, and accomplished mayhem.

Mayhem= bomb & kill the "suspects" who happen to be Muslim.

Suspects= No effort to IDENTIFY...just kill.

Whoever set this up ??_??

Don't even look further than the zionazi state of the Israhell my dear, these mother fuckers are responsible of the most."if not all"

The real TERRORIST STATE

Fuck the state of Israhell??_ !!

Let us all pray for the removal of this cancer..!

Posted by tripleCap


Jon Stewart Mocks Leaders of Countries at Paris March Who Jail (and Flog) Journalists

...

lol, everybody who jails writers were there.


now, we have a killed alleged terrorist with Sag Sun,
Mossad is Sag Sun
and Jon Stewart is Sag Sun.

Posted by tripleCap


Jon Stewart Mocks Leaders of Countries at Paris March Who Jail (and Flog) Journalists

Love him 🙂

Posted by Damnata
This is a sad day for parisians, freedom of press and for people who peacefully practice their religion and don't go to extremes with it.

Why do we see humor/satire as a direct threat? How can we lose it like this?

We see it also on these forums a lot. Someone being sarcastic and other posters taking it as a direct insult to their personality and everything they stand for. Have we developped a total reluctance to laugh at each other once in a while? Are we so easily offended and going overboard with it?

This makes me sad. 😢

I know what you mean damnata...to be honest I don't know why you bothered posting your thoughts on this site. The resident vultures are going to try and justify ignorant statements.

Posted by aquapiscescusp

Posted by Qbone
After US/UK police state this (false flag operation) is an opportunity to run the police state at heart of Europe.

Mr. Paul Craig Roberts wrote:

The Charlie Hebdo affair has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation. The attack on the cartoonists?? office was a disciplined professional attack of the kind associated with highly trained special forces; yet the suspects who were later corralled and killed seemed bumbling and unprofessional. It is like two different sets of people.

Usually Muslim terrorists are prepared to die in the attack; yet the two professionals who hit Charlie Hebdo were determined to escape and succeeded, an amazing feat. Their identity was allegedly established by the claim that they conveniently left for the authorities their ID in the getaway car. Such a mistake is inconsistent with the professionalism of the attack...

I'm not big on conspiracy theories but I will say that it does seem odd ID was left behind. As a matter of fact I made that comment early on, it was puzzling to me.

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It is strange, I agree-- I have a hard time believing it.

But whenever this is brought up, they leave out

-- Coulibaly,

-- the fact that he was shot on site at the Kosher market,

-- the witnesses who lived through it.


I'm more inclined to believe the id story is manufactured to

cover how authorities (illegally?) got the info-- or that they

maybe already knew about it (based on Kouachi's two prior

'terror-related' arrests), and did nothing.



Attack could have been prevented...

I'm more inclined to believe the id story is manufactured to cover how authorities (illegally?) got the info

Lmao

How about the whole story is manufactured to defame particular member of the society..?

Any hi babe??_ I am back..!

Posted by tripleCap

lmao 😄

Posted by Qbone

How about the whole story is manufactured to defame particular member of the society..?

Any hi babe??_ I am back..!

Oh, I noticed!

Posted by Qbone

That was Jews.. not the ...

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You haven't changed a bit. 😄

Posted by KVZZMIR11
Let us be honest...

Israhell exist ONLY to keep the Arabs population in check.

Once the Muslims have been wiped out, Jews will follow suite.

Only then we will restore peace in this world.

Posted by seraph
The conspiracist beefing with the bigoted antisemite.

😆

This is why we can't have nice things.

More late-game hits from Team Fringe. Both from left field.

Nutty conspiracy theories on one end, and bigotry and antisemitism on the other.

Though it seems the two are inseparable.

Say it again??_Anti ??what?? asshole..?

Arabs are Semite too; talk against Arabs makes you anti-Semite as well, unless you have particular (premade) definitions of it.

God I hate assholes like you??_

Posted by Montgomery

Posted by Qbone

How about the whole story is manufactured to defame particular member of the society..?

Any hi babe??_ I am back..!

Oh, I noticed!

Posted by Qbone

That was Jews.. not the ...

You haven't changed a bit. 😄

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OFC i will never change.. but.. Give me a kiss and we call it even for this round...

Now.. Here we go again for the (ignorant only)..!

World leaders walk in France for The Charlie Hebdo Solidarity Photo-Op??_.



Ahahaha??_ more news is on their way just to uncover this stupid stuff we've been spoon-fed by the fucking MSM??_

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-17/truth-behind-cherlie-hebdo-solidarity-photo-op<BR>

LMAO??_.

Mean while??_

The Europe going to freeze to death because of the stupid U.S. sanctions of the Russia..!