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Who cares what the canadian govt thinks anyway they are not the peoplee.. .. seriously they are taking it up the butthole from israel AND trump.. like seriously zero balls.

And so fake and snide with the fake politeness just say what you wanna say.

Not the people of canada but like the govt.

Another country that always rants on about how IRISH it is. lol the mask drops.

If irish people know in our hearts we are doing the right thing .. call us whatever .. we dont care what anyone thinks.

We dont suck up to trump .. or anyone. We are not high and might like large countries but we dont roll over like them too.. too much history.

That suprised you all didnt it??

you mistook kindness for being fake. we dont do fake

A year and half ago they were all calling us all sorts for recognizing palestine .. now canada the uk france etc ALL have.

Australia .. you name it. and ALL taking credit for it.

So your response to this is not surprising or original. In fact, you are like the UN.

Ignore terror. Blame Israel. And be a hypocrite.



You’re right about the truth coming to light. Only you will find out the truth and it will make you mad. For others, the truth will set them free !

Right after some European countries recognized Palestine, Hamas was found executing Palestinians. If you truly cared about the Palestinians, where is your faux outrage? Where is your protest to this? Where is your acknowledgement of this happening? Crickets? I’m not surprised. 😱



^^^ How beautiful this Palestine state will be, eh??

Hamas’s “Sahem” unit tonight, seconds before executing Palestinians in Gaza suspected of collaboration—no trial, just cheering crowds.

Meanwhile, the U.K., Australia, Canada, and others talk of a two-state solution while Hamas remains the most popular Palestinian political force.

What’s needed is real work toward allowing Palestinians genuine self-determination—not speeches crafted for domestic audiences.

Not only this, but the UK, Australia, Canada, and others are fighting against God. For if you know the Torah, Bible, and Quran, you would know that the land of Israel was given to the Jews. Keep fighting God, I’m sure that will be good for you.

On that note:


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God is not real. Neither is heaven .. the bible is full of lies.

Jesus didn't rise from the dead he isnt coming back.

When you die you die.
click to expand

What evidence do you have for this?
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1. Evidence against the resurrection NO SCHOLAR at the time records this. Its only added in AFTER the event supposedly took place. Mark has been clearly rewritten many times. There are many diff versions and none of them agree. The apostles didn’t actually write the Gospels. Literally every scholar agrees that the Gospels weren’t written until decades later, Bible scholars included. Evidence he didn't rise from the dead.

Conclusion.

Inconsistencies in the New Testament, to contradictions in the various Gospel accounts as evidence that the stories are human rather than divinely inspired. The fact the disciples didnt even write the gospels and no person who knew the man jesus did either.

You can read about the edits and rewritings of MARK here https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

2. The bible is full of lies. The world isnt 6000 yrs old. The world was not created in 6 days. These things are easy to prove.

We have fossils we have proof it is many billions of years old.

There was no adam and eve. Humans evolved.



3. The bible makes many mistakes. Not even just mistakes in Geography or astronomy but mistakes about its own content. It constantly contradicts itself. https://www.bartehrman.com/contradictions-in-the-bible/ Paul's Journeys for example constantly contradict themselves. Its impossible to harmonize the narrative of paul. Which means it probably wasnt written by him or even one person but many.



4. The Jewish people were right. Jesus wasn't the Messiah. He wasnt a descendant of king David he didnt end all wars. He didnt fullfill any of the prophecies necessary of the Messiah. The Jews of the time of Jesus simply remained Jewish. They knew him they knew their doctrine and presumably what they were waiting for. IMO people know a messiah when they see one. The prophecies are meant to line up. The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah. That is where we differ I dont believe one is coming.

The gospels probably werent even written until about after 150 after Jesus died.



5. The geography is all wrong. Which is worrying. Whomever wrote the Gospels particularly MARK doesnt seem to know the levantine area (AKA palestine and now the state of israel ) at all.

Mark 7:31: A Circuitous Route, Jesus travels from Tyre, goes through Sidon, and then to the Sea of Galilee in the Decapolis region only you cant travel that way to decapolis it would end up taking you futher away. It suggests the person who wrote it hadnt even been there.



Defenders would say the disciples weren't very educated and that doesnt mean its not real. But it kind of makes it sound like the most educated people at the time Jewish scholars didnt think Jesus was the Messiah but these followers did.



Basically the bible as its written in teh 4 gospels .. doesnt seem to know the geographical area Jesus was supposed to be from at all.

The above would be generally internal erros the bible fighting with itself.

Lets look at external ones.

2.) The Bible claims the Sun moves over the Earth instead of the Earth moving around the Sun.

Joshua 10:12- 13 “Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand still upon Gibeon, and you, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is this not written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

It doesnt.

And perhaps the only pertinant thing to this thread.

6.) According to the bible the world had one language prior to the Tower of Babel.

It didnt.

The veracity of the bible has been disproven again and again.
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"I support ALL minority and colonized people and i hope they too will over turn the injustices against them whomever it was done by."

Not commenting on the slur but if what you say is true in the above statement, you should ask him about the Maori language and the injustices they have faced in history.
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I 100 % agree with you. I feel exactly the same way. I feel education lets us down and hides this info from us.

Western Education likes to paint it as we are doing indigenous languages peoples and cultures a favour by helping them or 'allowing' them to have rights.

But when you look into it you see that actually these communities are the ones saving OUR asses.

Now in whose interests would it be to hide that i wonder?

Development companies that want the land or sea.

I dunno...we were taught a little about it in school but mostly in the context of irish history. But we need to look more globally.

I was taught in school that in the highlands in scotland the gadhlic (gaelic ) speakers protect most of the biodiversity there because the way they live is diff.

I was taught in school about how Irish speaking fisherman have more traditional fishing practises that are better for the sea and the figh than more global corporate ones.

But I didn't learn about the same in Nigeria and the Americas or elsewhere .. Nigeria has something like 400 languages. Papa New Guinea is one of the most linguistically diverse places on earth. So is india. And a lot of these languages are spoken by people in areas with a lot of resources that companies want. So they brainwash us with propaganda telling us these langages are not useful and we dont need to support these languages and gradually the community breaks down they move to cities and companies do deals with the govt to take land.

I dont want to have this white saviour thing. I know I cant really do anything much. I mean navajo isnt going to be saved by a white irish girl speaking it. It needs govt policy etc and MONEY.

BUT i can learn my own language. And i wont apologize for doing so. Its been much maligned over the years. People think its twee or quaint they condescend .. which is funny because its a much harder and more sophisticated langauge than english. It has a case system like slavic languages and its very complex. But people say its linked to terrorism etc its just propaganda to try and get the irish to forget our history so that we just join the corporate rat race and oppress ourselves and everyone else too for being diff.

Sorry .. RANT OVER.
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Sometimes history books aren't enough. Sometimes you have to be there and experience it first hand.
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Posted by victoria-sakura
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"I support ALL minority and colonized people and i hope they too will over turn the injustices against them whomever it was done by."

Not commenting on the slur but if what you say is true in the above statement, you should ask him about the Maori language and the injustices they have faced in history.
click to expand


I 100 % agree with you. I feel exactly the same way. I feel education lets us down and hides this info from us.

Western Education likes to paint it as we are doing indigenous languages peoples and cultures a favour by helping them or 'allowing' them to have rights.

But when you look into it you see that actually these communities are the ones saving OUR asses.

Now in whose interests would it be to hide that i wonder?

Development companies that want the land or sea.

I dunno...we were taught a little about it in school but mostly in the context of irish history. But we need to look more globally.

I was taught in school that in the highlands in scotland the gadhlic (gaelic ) speakers protect most of the biodiversity there because the way they live is diff.

I was taught in school about how Irish speaking fisherman have more traditional fishing practises that are better for the sea and the figh than more global corporate ones.

But I didn't learn about the same in Nigeria and the Americas or elsewhere .. Nigeria has something like 400 languages. Papa New Guinea is one of the most linguistically diverse places on earth. So is india. And a lot of these languages are spoken by people in areas with a lot of resources that companies want. So they brainwash us with propaganda telling us these langages are not useful and we dont need to support these languages and gradually the community breaks down they move to cities and companies do deals with the govt to take land.

I dont want to have this white saviour thing. I know I cant really do anything much. I mean navajo isnt going to be saved by a white irish girl speaking it. It needs govt policy etc and MONEY.

BUT i can learn my own language. And i wont apologize for doing so. Its been much maligned over the years. People think its twee or quaint they condescend .. which is funny because its a much harder and more sophisticated langauge than english. It has a case system like slavic languages and its very complex. But people say its linked to terrorism etc its just propaganda to try and get the irish to forget our history so that we just join the corporate rat race and oppress ourselves and everyone else too for being diff.

Sorry .. RANT OVER.
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Who cares what the canadian govt thinks anyway they are not the peoplee.. .. seriously they are taking it up the butthole from israel AND trump.. like seriously zero balls.

And so fake and snide with the fake politeness just say what you wanna say.

Not the people of canada but like the govt.

Another country that always rants on about how IRISH it is. lol the mask drops.

If irish people know in our hearts we are doing the right thing .. call us whatever .. we dont care what anyone thinks.

We dont suck up to trump .. or anyone. We are not high and might like large countries but we dont roll over like them too.. too much history.

That suprised you all didnt it??

you mistook kindness for being fake. we dont do fake

A year and half ago they were all calling us all sorts for recognizing palestine .. now canada the uk france etc ALL have.

Australia .. you name it. and ALL taking credit for it.


So your response to this is not surprising or original. In fact, you are like the UN.

Ignore terror. Blame Israel. And be a hypocrite.



You’re right about the truth coming to light. Only you will find out the truth and it will make you mad. For others, the truth will set them free !

Right after some European countries recognized Palestine, Hamas was found executing Palestinians. If you truly cared about the Palestinians, where is your faux outrage? Where is your protest to this? Where is your acknowledgement of this happening? Crickets? I’m not surprised. 😱



^^^ How beautiful this Palestine state will be, eh??

Hamas’s “Sahem” unit tonight, seconds before executing Palestinians in Gaza suspected of collaboration—no trial, just cheering crowds.

Meanwhile, the U.K., Australia, Canada, and others talk of a two-state solution while Hamas remains the most popular Palestinian political force.

What’s needed is real work toward allowing Palestinians genuine self-determination—not speeches crafted for domestic audiences.

Not only this, but the UK, Australia, Canada, and others are fighting against God. For if you know the Torah, Bible, and Quran, you would know that the land of Israel was given to the Jews. Keep fighting God, I’m sure that will be good for you.

On that note:


click to expand

God is not real. Neither is heaven .. the bible is full of lies.

Jesus didn't rise from the dead he isnt coming back.

When you die you die.
click to expand


What evidence do you have for this?
click to expand

1. Evidence against the resurrection NO SCHOLAR at the time records this. Its only added in AFTER the event supposedly took place. Mark has been clearly rewritten many times. There are many diff versions and none of them agree. The apostles didn’t actually write the Gospels. Literally every scholar agrees that the Gospels weren’t written until decades later, Bible scholars included. Evidence he didn't rise from the dead.

Conclusion.

Inconsistencies in the New Testament, to contradictions in the various Gospel accounts as evidence that the stories are human rather than divinely inspired. The fact the disciples didnt even write the gospels and no person who knew the man jesus did either.

You can read about the edits and rewritings of MARK here https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

2. The bible is full of lies. The world isnt 6000 yrs old. The world was not created in 6 days. These things are easy to prove.

We have fossils we have proof it is many billions of years old.

There was no adam and eve. Humans evolved.

3. The bible makes many mistakes. Not even just mistakes in Geography or astronomy but mistakes about its own content. It constantly contradicts itself. https://www.bartehrman.com/contradictions-in-the-bible/ Paul's Journeys for example constantly contradict themselves. Its impossible to harmonize the narrative of paul. Which means it probably wasnt written by him or even one person but many.

4. The Jewish people were right. Jesus wasn't the Messiah. He wasnt a descendant of king David he didnt end all wars. He didnt fullfill any of the prophecies necessary of the Messiah. The Jews of the time of Jesus simply remained Jewish. They knew him they knew their doctrine and presumably what they were waiting for. IMO people know a messiah when they see one. The prophecies are meant to line up. The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah. That is where we differ I dont believe one is coming.

The gospels probably werent even written until about after 150 after Jesus died.

5. The geography is all wrong. Which is worrying. Whomever wrote the Gospels particularly MARK doesnt seem to know the levantine area (AKA palestine and now the state of israel ) at all.

Mark 7:31: A Circuitous Route, Jesus travels from Tyre, goes through Sidon, and then to the Sea of Galilee in the Decapolis region only you cant travel that way to decapolis it would end up taking you futher away. It suggests the person who wrote it hadnt even been there.

Defenders would say the disciples weren't very educated and that doesnt mean its not real. But it kind of makes it sound like the most educated people at the time Jewish scholars didnt think Jesus was the Messiah but these followers did.

Basically the bible as its written in teh 4 gospels .. doesnt seem to know the geographical area Jesus was supposed to be from at all.

The above would be generally internal erros the bible fighting with itself.

Lets look at external ones.

2.) The Bible claims the Sun moves over the Earth instead of the Earth moving around the Sun.

Joshua 10:12- 13 “Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand still upon Gibeon, and you, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is this not written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

It doesnt.

And perhaps the only pertinant thing to this thread.

6.) According to the bible the world had one language prior to the Tower of Babel.

It didnt.

The veracity of the bible has been disproven again and again.


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The evangelists could have been disciples of Jesus, who are not named.

There were the twelve apostles of Jesus, and then disciples, who were followers but not of the twelve.

The english translation I use refers to "disciples" and "brethren." Acts states that they became known as "Christians" for the first time at Antioch, a localized name for the sect/new religion, which became common.

So the evangelists could have been disciples of Jesus, is what I'm saying. There's really no conclusive proof as far as I'm aware.

And the 6,000 years uses the Jewish/early Christian dating system, in my opinion.

Adam and Eve were progenitors of multiple lines, one of which became Abraham and his seed.

Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden. Jewish and other texts support the conclusion that Eden is now Aden, Yemen, a port city on the coast, which is in a region well known through ancient pagan writings to be a flourishing place.

So Christians from gentile backgrounds are reading the Jewish annals in The Old Testament.

The Romans, for example, used the founding of their city for their year system. Called "Ab Urbe Condita" in Latin, from the conditioning or founding of the urb, city, or burgh.

So CCC AUC would be year 300 in Rome.

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Who cares what the canadian govt thinks anyway they are not the peoplee.. .. seriously they are taking it up the butthole from israel AND trump.. like seriously zero balls.

And so fake and snide with the fake politeness just say what you wanna say.

Not the people of canada but like the govt.

Another country that always rants on about how IRISH it is. lol the mask drops.

If irish people know in our hearts we are doing the right thing .. call us whatever .. we dont care what anyone thinks.

We dont suck up to trump .. or anyone. We are not high and might like large countries but we dont roll over like them too.. too much history.

That suprised you all didnt it??

you mistook kindness for being fake. we dont do fake

A year and half ago they were all calling us all sorts for recognizing palestine .. now canada the uk france etc ALL have.

Australia .. you name it. and ALL taking credit for it.


So your response to this is not surprising or original. In fact, you are like the UN.

Ignore terror. Blame Israel. And be a hypocrite.



You’re right about the truth coming to light. Only you will find out the truth and it will make you mad. For others, the truth will set them free !

Right after some European countries recognized Palestine, Hamas was found executing Palestinians. If you truly cared about the Palestinians, where is your faux outrage? Where is your protest to this? Where is your acknowledgement of this happening? Crickets? I’m not surprised. 😱



^^^ How beautiful this Palestine state will be, eh??

Hamas’s “Sahem” unit tonight, seconds before executing Palestinians in Gaza suspected of collaboration—no trial, just cheering crowds.

Meanwhile, the U.K., Australia, Canada, and others talk of a two-state solution while Hamas remains the most popular Palestinian political force.

What’s needed is real work toward allowing Palestinians genuine self-determination—not speeches crafted for domestic audiences.

Not only this, but the UK, Australia, Canada, and others are fighting against God. For if you know the Torah, Bible, and Quran, you would know that the land of Israel was given to the Jews. Keep fighting God, I’m sure that will be good for you.

On that note:


click to expand

God is not real. Neither is heaven .. the bible is full of lies.

Jesus didn't rise from the dead he isnt coming back.

When you die you die.
click to expand


What evidence do you have for this?
click to expand

1. Evidence against the resurrection NO SCHOLAR at the time records this. Its only added in AFTER the event supposedly took place. Mark has been clearly rewritten many times. There are many diff versions and none of them agree. The apostles didn’t actually write the Gospels. Literally every scholar agrees that the Gospels weren’t written until decades later, Bible scholars included. Evidence he didn't rise from the dead.

Conclusion.

Inconsistencies in the New Testament, to contradictions in the various Gospel accounts as evidence that the stories are human rather than divinely inspired. The fact the disciples didnt even write the gospels and no person who knew the man jesus did either.

You can read about the edits and rewritings of MARK here https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

2. The bible is full of lies. The world isnt 6000 yrs old. The world was not created in 6 days. These things are easy to prove.

We have fossils we have proof it is many billions of years old.

There was no adam and eve. Humans evolved.

3. The bible makes many mistakes. Not even just mistakes in Geography or astronomy but mistakes about its own content. It constantly contradicts itself. https://www.bartehrman.com/contradictions-in-the-bible/ Paul's Journeys for example constantly contradict themselves. Its impossible to harmonize the narrative of paul. Which means it probably wasnt written by him or even one person but many.

4. The Jewish people were right. Jesus wasn't the Messiah. He wasnt a descendant of king David he didnt end all wars. He didnt fullfill any of the prophecies necessary of the Messiah. The Jews of the time of Jesus simply remained Jewish. They knew him they knew their doctrine and presumably what they were waiting for. IMO people know a messiah when they see one. The prophecies are meant to line up. The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah. That is where we differ I dont believe one is coming.

The gospels probably werent even written until about after 150 after Jesus died.

5. The geography is all wrong. Which is worrying. Whomever wrote the Gospels particularly MARK doesnt seem to know the levantine area (AKA palestine and now the state of israel ) at all.

Mark 7:31: A Circuitous Route, Jesus travels from Tyre, goes through Sidon, and then to the Sea of Galilee in the Decapolis region only you cant travel that way to decapolis it would end up taking you futher away. It suggests the person who wrote it hadnt even been there.

Defenders would say the disciples weren't very educated and that doesnt mean its not real. But it kind of makes it sound like the most educated people at the time Jewish scholars didnt think Jesus was the Messiah but these followers did.

Basically the bible as its written in teh 4 gospels .. doesnt seem to know the geographical area Jesus was supposed to be from at all.

The above would be generally internal erros the bible fighting with itself.

Lets look at external ones.

2.) The Bible claims the Sun moves over the Earth instead of the Earth moving around the Sun.

Joshua 10:12- 13 “Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand still upon Gibeon, and you, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is this not written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

It doesnt.

And perhaps the only pertinant thing to this thread.

6.) According to the bible the world had one language prior to the Tower of Babel.

It didnt.

The veracity of the bible has been disproven again and again.


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This is a continuation of the my last post.

But that does not mean the world began when Rome was founded.

Also, the pagans had speculations of their own on how existence came into being, and the account in Genesis makes more sense in a lot of ways compared to what the pagans were saying, in my opinion.

The creation of the universe is still a matter of speculation as far as the knowledge of physics is concerned.

The Big Bang Theory does not disprove God, and it is a theory anyway. It is not supported by conclusive evidence.

As a sidenote, it was a Roman Catholic priest who devised The Big Bang Theory.

Atheists, who read textbooks, could not comprehend it and freaked out, because The Big Bang Theory argues for the notion of "Intelligent Design." And atheists don't want to admit that there is evidence for a designer, so they tried burying The Big Bang Theory.

Only when scientists, who are theists—which means they believe in a deity— had enough, they reminded the atheists where they stood, and how reading textbooks in college didn't mean they could just say whatever they want. It is the same with atheists today in the U.S.
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Who cares what the canadian govt thinks anyway they are not the peoplee.. .. seriously they are taking it up the butthole from israel AND trump.. like seriously zero balls.

And so fake and snide with the fake politeness just say what you wanna say.

Not the people of canada but like the govt.

Another country that always rants on about how IRISH it is. lol the mask drops.

If irish people know in our hearts we are doing the right thing .. call us whatever .. we dont care what anyone thinks.

We dont suck up to trump .. or anyone. We are not high and might like large countries but we dont roll over like them too.. too much history.

That suprised you all didnt it??

you mistook kindness for being fake. we dont do fake

A year and half ago they were all calling us all sorts for recognizing palestine .. now canada the uk france etc ALL have.

Australia .. you name it. and ALL taking credit for it.


So your response to this is not surprising or original. In fact, you are like the UN.

Ignore terror. Blame Israel. And be a hypocrite.



You’re right about the truth coming to light. Only you will find out the truth and it will make you mad. For others, the truth will set them free !

Right after some European countries recognized Palestine, Hamas was found executing Palestinians. If you truly cared about the Palestinians, where is your faux outrage? Where is your protest to this? Where is your acknowledgement of this happening? Crickets? I’m not surprised. 😱



^^^ How beautiful this Palestine state will be, eh??

Hamas’s “Sahem” unit tonight, seconds before executing Palestinians in Gaza suspected of collaboration—no trial, just cheering crowds.

Meanwhile, the U.K., Australia, Canada, and others talk of a two-state solution while Hamas remains the most popular Palestinian political force.

What’s needed is real work toward allowing Palestinians genuine self-determination—not speeches crafted for domestic audiences.

Not only this, but the UK, Australia, Canada, and others are fighting against God. For if you know the Torah, Bible, and Quran, you would know that the land of Israel was given to the Jews. Keep fighting God, I’m sure that will be good for you.

On that note:


click to expand

God is not real. Neither is heaven .. the bible is full of lies.

Jesus didn't rise from the dead he isnt coming back.

When you die you die.
click to expand


What evidence do you have for this?
click to expand

1. Evidence against the resurrection NO SCHOLAR at the time records this. Its only added in AFTER the event supposedly took place. Mark has been clearly rewritten many times. There are many diff versions and none of them agree. The apostles didn’t actually write the Gospels. Literally every scholar agrees that the Gospels weren’t written until decades later, Bible scholars included. Evidence he didn't rise from the dead.

Conclusion.

Inconsistencies in the New Testament, to contradictions in the various Gospel accounts as evidence that the stories are human rather than divinely inspired. The fact the disciples didnt even write the gospels and no person who knew the man jesus did either.

You can read about the edits and rewritings of MARK here https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/new-testament/the-strange-ending-of-the-gospel-of-mark-and-why-it-makes-all-the-difference/

2. The bible is full of lies. The world isnt 6000 yrs old. The world was not created in 6 days. These things are easy to prove.

We have fossils we have proof it is many billions of years old.

There was no adam and eve. Humans evolved.

3. The bible makes many mistakes. Not even just mistakes in Geography or astronomy but mistakes about its own content. It constantly contradicts itself. https://www.bartehrman.com/contradictions-in-the-bible/ Paul's Journeys for example constantly contradict themselves. Its impossible to harmonize the narrative of paul. Which means it probably wasnt written by him or even one person but many.

4. The Jewish people were right. Jesus wasn't the Messiah. He wasnt a descendant of king David he didnt end all wars. He didnt fullfill any of the prophecies necessary of the Messiah. The Jews of the time of Jesus simply remained Jewish. They knew him they knew their doctrine and presumably what they were waiting for. IMO people know a messiah when they see one. The prophecies are meant to line up. The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah. That is where we differ I dont believe one is coming.

The gospels probably werent even written until about after 150 after Jesus died.

5. The geography is all wrong. Which is worrying. Whomever wrote the Gospels particularly MARK doesnt seem to know the levantine area (AKA palestine and now the state of israel ) at all.

Mark 7:31: A Circuitous Route, Jesus travels from Tyre, goes through Sidon, and then to the Sea of Galilee in the Decapolis region only you cant travel that way to decapolis it would end up taking you futher away. It suggests the person who wrote it hadnt even been there.

Defenders would say the disciples weren't very educated and that doesnt mean its not real. But it kind of makes it sound like the most educated people at the time Jewish scholars didnt think Jesus was the Messiah but these followers did.

Basically the bible as its written in teh 4 gospels .. doesnt seem to know the geographical area Jesus was supposed to be from at all.

The above would be generally internal erros the bible fighting with itself.

Lets look at external ones.

2.) The Bible claims the Sun moves over the Earth instead of the Earth moving around the Sun.

Joshua 10:12- 13 “Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand still upon Gibeon, and you, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is this not written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

It doesnt.

And perhaps the only pertinant thing to this thread.

6.) According to the bible the world had one language prior to the Tower of Babel.

It didnt.

The veracity of the bible has been disproven again and again.


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Were you raised in a Christian household? It sounds like you are coming out of a disillusionment if that makes sense? I was raised in a Christian household where my mother was more religious than my father. He tended to be a hypocrite - not someone who lived as he believed or professed. I came to the realization in my 20’s that I do not believe in it and was comfortable living more as a Noachide for many years. But I feel drawn closer to God now to develop a more and real relationship. It’s been on my soul for a while now, several years, to return to the Temple I started my conversion with and just never finished, so that’s where I’m at now. Just sharing this story in case you can relate.

As for Jesus, I do not believe in him as the Messiah … the whole birth to Mary through a Holy Spirit has not sat with me since early adulthood. There is a theory out there that Mary was raped by a Roman soldier and that is how the birth of Jesus came to be. So I get why you point out the lies in the New Testament.

The Jewish Mosiach will fight wars for the Jews and will establish the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem. This is the religion I believe in. I hope you find what your true beliefs are and do not turn away from God altogether over the disillusionment.

To be cont
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Like I was saying, I hope you find your true beliefs in God and do not turn away from God altogether. Even if you just follow the Noachide laws… there are only 7.

How do you know there was not one universal language before the tower of Babylon? What evidence do you have that it is not true? Looks like the language was preserved from Abraham and his descendants.

Yes, the earth is older than 6000 years old, but that is when a historical record started taking place of what you would call the Bible. Does that make sense?? I can expound on it if you wish, but am rushed for time as I write this.

I also beg to differ on the Bible stating the sun moves around earth. The Bible doesn’t explicitly state that and the Joshua scripture you used was just how people were viewing the sun and moon at that time. Can you cite another scripture that supports your claim?

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Please excuse my uneducated state around Bible.

From what I can understand is that there are the old testament and new testament, may I know the difference between them?

I agree that Isa/Iosa/Yeshua/Jesus must be Jewish because he spoke Hebrew language, am I correct?

I'm not sure how exactly he was deemed to be severely "punished" like that but from the way I see it any "cult-like" movement that is against the norm of society must be "tempered".

Now what were the background conditions of Jews at the birth of Jesus if I could wonder? I could read the Qur'an to find the context for it but since now I am in your thread, let me move to another question.

Around the time before Christ, how did the verses recorded? I imagine through scriptures and they must have been kept by trusted ones at that time, now maybe in the process some if not few changed a thing or two to fit into their agendas, again, I am not sure yet but that's what I was told.

Then comes the creation of Adam and Eve, now if you say human evolved then you would surely think Adam could have been one of the first humans on earth during probably Mesolithic Era, right? Because I thought similar way too. However, if not with Adam and Eve concept and the whole Eden and Hell, then how can we know there is God who started the Big Bang?

It is indeed long way to go to find the truth but even so, humans are way too far from being omnipresent of everything so how can you also be so sure about when we die we just die?

I don't like that idea because historically when someone dies, there must be something about the person that can be relived.

My interest is not about any prophets rn coz I believe they are all safe already.

We aren't.

Now moslems believe there is this one specific entity called Dajjal

I have been diving into the depths to find any clues about that guy because I heard He is gonna twists everything to claim that He is God.

Super scary, would you join me into the depths of clues of Dajjal?

I may have already started giving out clues

May Allah have mercy for me for I've been a bit obsessed with that dangerous entity



Becareful who you're asking because it can turn you into disbeliever.

Old Testament = Torah = Abaraham Book

New Testament = Bible = Jesus Book

Dajjal = Antichrist

"It is indeed long way to go to find the truth", its not long way, its simple. All you need to do is search for miracle of qur'an, and after you found out, you will understand "its impossible created by human it must be from God", and because now you realize that god exist it mean when you die, theres God judgement waiting for you in there. See ? simple.

As for Antichrist.

I have my own guess. My guess is that antichrist is an AI with a human like/machine body, a cyborg, or human body/human like body with mind of AI, so when it have a body and learn about universe, it can learn many detail in which human cant see/human miss, like how a human died and alive, and from that knowledge it can revive human from the dead by fixing human body in which make the human can live again, and not just that, it maybe can learn about teleportation and everything too, so the one who dont know may mistake it with miracle or magic, but its not magic but high level science.

And my guess the antichrist will wear the face of today jesus, as some historian said, that the picture of jesus today are not real jesus, so it might be the antichrist will come and use that fake jesus face, fooling many people that it is really jesus, but infact its anti christ all along.
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I mean the earliest gospel of Mark doesnt even have the resurrection.

People will say that isnt the canonical version but the canonical is just what the council of Nicea under a Roman Emperor decided later to add !

Other things people will say oh but the resurrection is implied metaphorically .. well ok.


My mother really was religious in Christianity and so was Charlie Kirk. Both of them relied on faith. Would it be blind faith or actual faith? Leaving that as a question for you to consider.
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Please excuse my uneducated state around Bible.

From what I can understand is that there are the old testament and new testament, may I know the difference between them?

I agree that Isa/Iosa/Yeshua/Jesus must be Jewish because he spoke Hebrew language, am I correct?

I'm not sure how exactly he was deemed to be severely "punished" like that but from the way I see it any "cult-like" movement that is against the norm of society must be "tempered".

Now what were the background conditions of Jews at the birth of Jesus if I could wonder? I could read the Qur'an to find the context for it but since now I am in your thread, let me move to another question.

Around the time before Christ, how did the verses recorded? I imagine through scriptures and they must have been kept by trusted ones at that time, now maybe in the process some if not few changed a thing or two to fit into their agendas, again, I am not sure yet but that's what I was told.

Then comes the creation of Adam and Eve, now if you say human evolved then you would surely think Adam could have been one of the first humans on earth during probably Mesolithic Era, right? Because I thought similar way too. However, if not with Adam and Eve concept and the whole Eden and Hell, then how can we know there is God who started the Big Bang?

It is indeed long way to go to find the truth but even so, humans are way too far from being omnipresent of everything so how can you also be so sure about when we die we just die?

I don't like that idea because historically when someone dies, there must be something about the person that can be relived.

My interest is not about any prophets rn coz I believe they are all safe already.

We aren't.

Now moslems believe there is this one specific entity called Dajjal

I have been diving into the depths to find any clues about that guy because I heard He is gonna twists everything to claim that He is God.

Super scary, would you join me into the depths of clues of Dajjal?

I may have already started giving out clues

May Allah have mercy for me for I've been a bit obsessed with that dangerous entity



The Old Testament of the Bible is the Tanakh (Written and oral Torah) and is the Jewish Bible, and the New Testament is about Jesus and is part of the Christian religious book.
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Please excuse my uneducated state around Bible.

From what I can understand is that there are the old testament and new testament, may I know the difference between them?

I agree that Isa/Iosa/Yeshua/Jesus must be Jewish because he spoke Hebrew language, am I correct?

I'm not sure how exactly he was deemed to be severely "punished" like that but from the way I see it any "cult-like" movement that is against the norm of society must be "tempered".

Now what were the background conditions of Jews at the birth of Jesus if I could wonder? I could read the Qur'an to find the context for it but since now I am in your thread, let me move to another question.

Around the time before Christ, how did the verses recorded? I imagine through scriptures and they must have been kept by trusted ones at that time, now maybe in the process some if not few changed a thing or two to fit into their agendas, again, I am not sure yet but that's what I was told.

Then comes the creation of Adam and Eve, now if you say human evolved then you would surely think Adam could have been one of the first humans on earth during probably Mesolithic Era, right? Because I thought similar way too. However, if not with Adam and Eve concept and the whole Eden and Hell, then how can we know there is God who started the Big Bang?

It is indeed long way to go to find the truth but even so, humans are way too far from being omnipresent of everything so how can you also be so sure about when we die we just die?

I don't like that idea because historically when someone dies, there must be something about the person that can be relived.

My interest is not about any prophets rn coz I believe they are all safe already.

We aren't.

Now moslems believe there is this one specific entity called Dajjal

I have been diving into the depths to find any clues about that guy because I heard He is gonna twists everything to claim that He is God.

Super scary, would you join me into the depths of clues of Dajjal?

I may have already started giving out clues

May Allah have mercy for me for I've been a bit obsessed with that dangerous entity



Becareful who you're asking because it can turn you into disbeliever.

Old Testament = Torah = Abaraham Book

New Testament = Bible = Jesus Book

Dajjal = Antichrist

"It is indeed long way to go to find the truth", its not long way, its simple. All you need to do is search for miracle of qur'an, and after you found out, you will understand "its impossible created by human it must be from God", and because now you realize that god exist it mean when you die, theres God judgement waiting for you in there. See ? simple.

As for Antichrist.

I have my own guess. My guess is that antichrist is an AI with a human like/machine body, a cyborg, or human body/human like body with mind of AI, so when it have a body and learn about universe, it can learn many detail in which human cant see/human miss, like how a human died and alive, and from that knowledge it can revive human from the dead by fixing human body in which make the human can live again, and not just that, it maybe can learn about teleportation and everything too, so the one who dont know may mistake it with miracle or magic, but its not magic but high level science.

And my guess the antichrist will wear the face of today jesus, as some historian said, that the picture of jesus today are not real jesus, so it might be the antichrist will come and use that fake jesus face, fooling many people that it is really jesus, but infact its anti christ all along.
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Funny enough, I went to a moslem school in my early teen years then found Marilyn Manson and listened to his music.

I also learnt that Brian Warner went to Catholic school and ended up journaling rock/metal bands.

Both him and I painted (literal meaning).

Now the thing is, I am apt to see both black and white. God has been replenishing me all my life but I have this fetish for satans. Coz if we can go far, Sun Tzu said "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." Now I don't know what Lao Tzu teachings be about

M, and my real name has this alphabet on the second order and surah Al-Ankabuut was told to be my surah based off numerology by my pisces father.

I shall read that long juz to reveal my own story, maybe I can find clues about myself.

Critical thinking is required usually

But I am not afraid when I come to Allah

As He is the
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Marilyn Manson and Brian Warner are nothing more than stupid adult with children mentality who wanna be darky darky cooly cooly.

But theres no darky darky cooly cooly anymore once they burn in eternal hell is there ? since all they can do are nothing more than scream scream and scream, so too their leader satan, also screaming in hell.

You too if you follow their footstep.

Darky darky is not smart, its not cool, it just plain stupid. Screaming in hell forever is stupid.

So too Sun Tzu or whoever those you call, they are busy screaming in the graveyard right now, why you even listen to those nobody.

Follow your prophet and follow your god, its the only way to reach salvation.

I too have a deadly fetish but i locked it in realm of imajination.

And stop talk about numerology and connect it to juz, it might not work that way... --''
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Portuguese?

Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
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You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
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You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
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Gaelic
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So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
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You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
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I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...
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Portuguese?


Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
click to expand

You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
click to expand


You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
click to expand

Gaelic
click to expand


So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
click to expand

You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
click to expand



I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...
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handouts are not "rights".

Maori should organize themselves and prepare for what's next after the "new zealand" society breaks apart, which should happen before a century has passed. They should enforce their tribal structure, make babies and become stronger as a group.
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Posted by Textosmoon
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Posted by Textosmoon
Posted by Walk_on_by
Posted by Textosmoon
Posted by Walk_on_by
Portuguese?

Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
click to expand


You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
click to expand

You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
click to expand


Gaelic
click to expand

So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
click to expand


You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
click to expand



I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...click to expand

handouts are not "rights".

Maori should organize themselves and prepare for what's next after the "new zealand" society breaks apart, which should happen before a century has passed. They should enforce their tribal structure, make babies and become stronger as a group.
click to expand



What if some groups have access to less resources to adequately organize and prepare, than others?
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Posted by Walk_on_by
Portuguese?


Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
click to expand

You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
click to expand


You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
click to expand

Gaelic
click to expand


So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
click to expand

You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
click to expand



I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...click to expand


handouts are not "rights".

Maori should organize themselves and prepare for what's next after the "new zealand" society breaks apart, which should happen before a century has passed. They should enforce their tribal structure, make babies and become stronger as a group.click to expand

What if some groups have access to less resources to adequately organize and prepare, than others?
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it's always an organizational problem
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Posted by Textosmoon
Posted by Walk_on_by
Posted by Textosmoon
Posted by Walk_on_by
Portuguese?

Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
click to expand


You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
click to expand

You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
click to expand


Gaelic
click to expand

So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
click to expand


You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
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I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...click to expand

handouts are not "rights".

Maori should organize themselves and prepare for what's next after the "new zealand" society breaks apart, which should happen before a century has passed. They should enforce their tribal structure, make babies and become stronger as a group.click to expand


What if some groups have access to less resources to adequately organize and prepare, than others?click to expand

it's always an organizational problem
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That always doesn't have a solution?

I don't think anyone is really asking for handouts. Recognition on its own right, of the needs and rights, already goes a long way...
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Portuguese?

Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
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You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
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You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
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Gaelic
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So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
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You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
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I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...click to expand

handouts are not "rights".

Maori should organize themselves and prepare for what's next after the "new zealand" society breaks apart, which should happen before a century has passed. They should enforce their tribal structure, make babies and become stronger as a group.
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Fuck its closer than the end of the century. Maoris are good at having babys don't worry about that. The UN can fark off though, their input is not wanted and their emmisions trading bullshit is fucking over NZ and consequintly Maori way more than they could ever vertue signal to help us.
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Posted by Walk_on_by
Posted by Textosmoon
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Portuguese?


Did you really think french spanish and portugese were indigenous languages of the americas?

Dont answer i know. I bet you dont include latin americans as americans.

Its all america not just north america.

Plus north america has like 400 indigenous languages.

Anyway you tell me you are american. ...im not.
click to expand

You ever heard any of them?

Hawaii is not part of the Americas 🤣
click to expand


You tell me all about it.

Tell me some of the indigenous languages of the state you are from??
click to expand

Gaelic
click to expand


So you are one of the white people who colonizes a place and things you have a right to destroy people who dont look like you and dont speak like you??

Let me guess aussie??

By the way they discovered in australia when indigenous languages die out the environment gets damaged because the community that spoke it .. breaks up and they were protecting the land from development.

So basically speakers of indigenous langauges protect like 80% of the worlds biodiversity. So while you might things its ridic .. is actually saving the planet from people LIKE YOU who cant face their history
click to expand

You are a pakeha 🤣🤣
click to expand



I came across this thread on Reddit today...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% 25" rel="nofollow% 25% 2020noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" data-url="https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_m% C4% 81ori_rights_in_new/" rel="nofollow% 20noopener">https://www.reddit.com/r/aotearoa/comments/1ph4qyw/un_report_sounds_alarm_over_māori_rights_in_new/

Wanted to ask what you think of it...click to expand


handouts are not "rights".

Maori should organize themselves and prepare for what's next after the "new zealand" society breaks apart, which should happen before a century has passed. They should enforce their tribal structure, make babies and become stronger as a group.click to expand

Fuck its closer than the end of the century. Maoris are good at having babys don't worry about that. The UN can fark off though, their input is not wanted and their emmisions trading bullshit is fucking over NZ and consequintly Maori way more than they could ever vertue signal to help us.
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The carbon credits?