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Posted by blackphaseI agree and love nature also. When I fish I don't like using live bait because I hate the idea it has to die for my enjoyment. I also always release what I catch. In a survival situation I'd have no issue eating wildlife however. At that moment I would feel my life is extremely important for others survival, because I know a bunch of survival tips. All the way to what plants and flowers in north America are perfect for antibiotic bandages and medicine, what plants are good to eat, or which plants are deadly. I also know how to craft primitive weapons and traps.
@Soul - Not a vegan, just love nature and wildlife. I have never eaten game meat before, I feel badly enough for all the animals slaughtered by factories and all the expired meat that gets thrown away. Such a sad waste. I know many people (animal lovers) would prefer to hunt their own meat as opposed to buying it, but there are already so many animals being slaughtered that we cannot keep from happening, I'd rather not see those lives end for nothing.. only to be thrown in the trash if expired before bought.

Posted by CancerOnTheCuspYou know as well as I do that without forming the Continental Army, Britain would have won. Communication technology wasn't advanced enough to wage a full on VC-style guerilla campaign, so without coordination we would have been dead in the water.Posted by QuantumBattle of Cowpens. King's Mountain.Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
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Posted by QuantumEven if there was an invasion, good luck holding territory.
Any power that manages to evade 1) Satellite surveillance, 2) Air Force assets, 3) Naval Assets, 4) National Guard assets, and 5) Local law enforcement assets is simply going to be too strong for a bunch of citizens with semi automatic rifles and handguns. The logistical problems the invading force would need to overcome are just too great that it would have to be far more powerful than any current military.
This isn't a Michael Bay movie, nor is it grade school revisionist feel good patriotic history lessons.

Posted by QuantumI don't disagree, but militia played a role in slowing the British advance through the south, buying time for Washington.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspYou know as well as I do that without forming the Continental Army, Britain would have won. Communication technology wasn't advanced enough to wage a full on VC-style guerilla campaign, so without coordination we would have been dead in the water.Posted by QuantumBattle of Cowpens. King's Mountain.Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
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Posted by CancerOnTheCuspThat's a good point. The Appalachians were a thorn in their side. You can't fight hill folk by standing in columns and volley firing.Posted by QuantumI don't disagree, but militia played a role in slowing the British advance through the south, buying time for Washington.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspYou know as well as I do that without forming the Continental Army, Britain would have won. Communication technology wasn't advanced enough to wage a full on VC-style guerilla campaign, so without coordination we would have been dead in the water.Posted by QuantumBattle of Cowpens. King's Mountain.Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
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Posted by QuantumThe original settlers would have learned that the hard way. The natives pretty much wrote our way of warfare, at least at that time.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspThat's a good point. The Appalachians were a thorn in their side. You can't fight hill folk by standing in columns and volley firing.Posted by QuantumI don't disagree, but militia played a role in slowing the British advance through the south, buying time for Washington.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspYou know as well as I do that without forming the Continental Army, Britain would have won. Communication technology wasn't advanced enough to wage a full on VC-style guerilla campaign, so without coordination we would have been dead in the water.Posted by QuantumBattle of Cowpens. King's Mountain.Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
click to expand

Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
click to expand

Posted by QuantumIt would be more difficult for them with armed citizens.
Any power that manages to evade 1) Satellite surveillance, 2) Air Force assets, 3) Naval Assets, 4) National Guard assets, and 5) Local law enforcement assets is simply going to be too strong for a bunch of citizens with semi automatic rifles and handguns. The logistical problems the invading force would need to overcome are just too great that it would have to be far more powerful than any current military.
This isn't a Michael Bay movie, nor is it grade school revisionist feel good patriotic history lessons.

Posted by SoulYou're my kind of man. 🙂Posted by blackphaseI agree and love nature also. When I fish I don't like using live bait because I hate the idea it has to die for my enjoyment. I also always release what I catch. In a survival situation I'd have no issue eating wildlife however. At that moment I would feel my life is extremely important for others survival, because I know a bunch of survival tips. All the way to what plants and flowers in north America are perfect for antibiotic bandages and medicine, what plants are good to eat, or which plants are deadly. I also know how to craft primitive weapons and traps.
@Soul - Not a vegan, just love nature and wildlife. I have never eaten game meat before, I feel badly enough for all the animals slaughtered by factories and all the expired meat that gets thrown away. Such a sad waste. I know many people (animal lovers) would prefer to hunt their own meat as opposed to buying it, but there are already so many animals being slaughtered that we cannot keep from happening, I'd rather not see those lives end for nothing.. only to be thrown in the trash if expired before bought.click to expand

Posted by truecapAs unlikely or even impossible as an invasion on American soil would be, I feel the idea with civilians with guns is a slight fear tactic over any enemy.Posted by QuantumIt would be more difficult for them with armed citizens.
Any power that manages to evade 1) Satellite surveillance, 2) Air Force assets, 3) Naval Assets, 4) National Guard assets, and 5) Local law enforcement assets is simply going to be too strong for a bunch of citizens with semi automatic rifles and handguns. The logistical problems the invading force would need to overcome are just too great that it would have to be far more powerful than any current military.
This isn't a Michael Bay movie, nor is it grade school revisionist feel good patriotic history lessons.click to expand

Posted by SoulI agree with you. It is a deterrent.Posted by truecapAs unlikely or even impossible as an invasion on American soil would be, I feel the idea with civilians with guns is a slight fear tactic over any enemy.Posted by QuantumIt would be more difficult for them with armed citizens.
Any power that manages to evade 1) Satellite surveillance, 2) Air Force assets, 3) Naval Assets, 4) National Guard assets, and 5) Local law enforcement assets is simply going to be too strong for a bunch of citizens with semi automatic rifles and handguns. The logistical problems the invading force would need to overcome are just too great that it would have to be far more powerful than any current military.
This isn't a Michael Bay movie, nor is it grade school revisionist feel good patriotic history lessons.
The way I see it is you couldn't really use nukes. The reason for this is unless you could do it quickly and take out all our nuke locations we would just send some back. You also couldn't wipe the whole country off the map with a nuke, because the radiation would kill so much more then the target, and it would linger for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. That means the only option would be a large scale invasion. Which the cops and civilians would make somewhat difficult, or at least scary for the invading troops let alone the military.
Obvously all of this invasion talk is hypothetical here in 2016 though.click to expand

Posted by truecapSome from library books, some from my dad and grandfather who are self sufficient country folk living off the land, and some from YouTube.Posted by SoulYou're my kind of man. 🙂Posted by blackphaseI agree and love nature also. When I fish I don't like using live bait because I hate the idea it has to die for my enjoyment. I also always release what I catch. In a survival situation I'd have no issue eating wildlife however. At that moment I would feel my life is extremely important for others survival, because I know a bunch of survival tips. All the way to what plants and flowers in north America are perfect for antibiotic bandages and medicine, what plants are good to eat, or which plants are deadly. I also know how to craft primitive weapons and traps.
@Soul - Not a vegan, just love nature and wildlife. I have never eaten game meat before, I feel badly enough for all the animals slaughtered by factories and all the expired meat that gets thrown away. Such a sad waste. I know many people (animal lovers) would prefer to hunt their own meat as opposed to buying it, but there are already so many animals being slaughtered that we cannot keep from happening, I'd rather not see those lives end for nothing.. only to be thrown in the trash if expired before bought.
How does one going about learning more about the plants and their uses? Did you just research this yourself?click to expand

Posted by cowpuncherYeah Prohibition proves an outright ban will just give the black market more profit/power.Posted by cheekyfaerie... and Chicago style gun control works? Obviously not.
Despite all the research saying more guns = more gun violence. Yup. Just what we needed. Another "cold, dead hands" thread. 🙄
But hey.... bans for the avg Joe worked out great with drugs and prohibition... right?click to expand


Posted by SirHornsExactly.Posted by cowpuncherYeah Prohibition proves an outright ban will just give the black market more profit/power.Posted by cheekyfaerie... and Chicago style gun control works? Obviously not.
Despite all the research saying more guns = more gun violence. Yup. Just what we needed. Another "cold, dead hands" thread. 🙄
But hey.... bans for the avg Joe worked out great with drugs and prohibition... right?click to expand

Posted by truecapArmy =/= militia in today's world.Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
click to expand

Posted by QuantumI didn't say it was equal.Posted by truecapArmy =/= militia in today's world.Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
We live in an age of professional soldiers.
Going to the shooting range and/or hunting deer does not prepare a citizen to engage in combat with trained soldiers.
These aren't meth heads looking for easy money or something to steal. These are trained killers. No modern day American "militia" has been anything but target practice when it came to conflicts with even nonmilitary units from the FBI or ATF. The idea that they can stand up to coordinated modern military combat is silly.
Patriotic chest thumping and zeitgeist won't stop a drone from planting a guided missile right in the middle of your militia camp at 2 am.click to expand

Posted by QuantumA militia camp, yeah.Posted by truecapArmy =/= militia in today's world.Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
We live in an age of professional soldiers.
Going to the shooting range and/or hunting deer does not prepare a citizen to engage in combat with trained soldiers.
These aren't meth heads looking for easy money or something to steal. These are trained killers. No modern day American "militia" has been anything but target practice when it came to conflicts with even nonmilitary units from the FBI or ATF. The idea that they can stand up to coordinated modern military combat is silly.
Patriotic chest thumping and zeitgeist won't stop a drone from planting a guided missile right in the middle of your militia camp at 2 am.click to expand

Posted by CapTennMaybe. But this country doesn't have an ideology to stand behind like the VC or the Japanese or even Muslim terrorists. We're all fighting for our own little piece of the shit pie we've been thrown.Posted by QuantumA militia camp, yeah.Posted by truecapArmy =/= militia in today's world.Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
We live in an age of professional soldiers.
Going to the shooting range and/or hunting deer does not prepare a citizen to engage in combat with trained soldiers.
These aren't meth heads looking for easy money or something to steal. These are trained killers. No modern day American "militia" has been anything but target practice when it came to conflicts with even nonmilitary units from the FBI or ATF. The idea that they can stand up to coordinated modern military combat is silly.
Patriotic chest thumping and zeitgeist won't stop a drone from planting a guided missile right in the middle of your militia camp at 2 am.
In the "invasion" scenario, there would hopefully be a unification of 300 million strong.
That's a lot of militias.
Guerilla warfare worked for the Vietnamese.
Who knows?click to expand


Posted by QuantumIf America were attacked, we'd find our ideology - Don't Mess with Us.Posted by CapTennMaybe. But this country doesn't have an ideology to stand behind like the VC or the Japanese or even Muslim terrorists. We're all fighting for our own little piece of the shit pie we've been thrown.Posted by QuantumA militia camp, yeah.Posted by truecapArmy =/= militia in today's world.Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
We live in an age of professional soldiers.
Going to the shooting range and/or hunting deer does not prepare a citizen to engage in combat with trained soldiers.
These aren't meth heads looking for easy money or something to steal. These are trained killers. No modern day American "militia" has been anything but target practice when it came to conflicts with even nonmilitary units from the FBI or ATF. The idea that they can stand up to coordinated modern military combat is silly.
Patriotic chest thumping and zeitgeist won't stop a drone from planting a guided missile right in the middle of your militia camp at 2 am.
In the "invasion" scenario, there would hopefully be a unification of 300 million strong.
That's a lot of militias.
Guerilla warfare worked for the Vietnamese.
Who knows?
I think most of the US would crumple like one of Don Johnson's cheap suits.
Especially if the invaders offered free college.click to expand



Posted by QuantumProbably. lol!
Hell if we were invaded right now, I'm sure Obama would just apologize to the invaders.

Posted by QuantumAnd hopefully, something like that doesn't happen in our lifetime.
@truecap
TIt's going to take something we've never experienced before to bring people together like that.



Posted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.

Posted by QuantumOr, they may have already received broadcasts, discussed coming here, and said "no way are we going there", even if they did have the capability to wipe us out.Posted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.click to expand

Posted by CancerOnTheCuspI think that was in the article as well. There's no guarantee they give a shit about us enough to respond back.Posted by QuantumOr, they may have already received broadcasts, discussed coming here, and said "no way are we going there", even if they did have the capability to wipe us out.Posted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.click to expand

Posted by QuantumOr if it's even possible for any lifeform to develop to a point they can keep progressing even after their sun burns out. Then again, we don't know if something non carbon based can be considered living, so maybe things can live even with no sun.Posted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.click to expand

Posted by QuantumHe said government experimentsPosted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.click to expand

Posted by geegeeYou bigot.Posted by Quantum
@truecap
That's more of an attitude than an ideology.
All the enemies I've listed believed in something greater than themselves. Something they were willing to die for.
For the Japanese it was their emperor. For the VC it was straight up Communism. For ISIS it's Allah.
That doesn't exist in the US anymore. The only contemporary example might have been the Communist USSR, but Communism has failed over and over again so it's more of a joke than a threat.
It's going to take something we've never experienced before to bring people together like that.
Aliens from outer space.click to expand

Posted by MontgomeryYes. Hybrids made from combining human and animal DNA. I imagine it would look like a person, but have a savage mentality. Likely taking on the aspects of it's animal parts, but also extremely smart and fully aware of self like a human.Posted by QuantumHe said government experimentsPosted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.
released on humanity
that are merely *called* aliens--
theres no such thing as aliens.
Chimeras... maybe.
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Posted by truecapI agree.Posted by QuantumIf America were attacked, we'd find our ideology - Don't Mess with Us.Posted by CapTennMaybe. But this country doesn't have an ideology to stand behind like the VC or the Japanese or even Muslim terrorists. We're all fighting for our own little piece of the shit pie we've been thrown.Posted by QuantumA militia camp, yeah.Posted by truecapArmy =/= militia in today's world.Posted by QuantumThe continental army was created out of militias wasn't it?Posted by truecapThe Continetal Army fought that war, not militias.
Someone mentioned history. Let's look at the Revolutionary War. Local militia fought that war.
If it weren't for citizens with guns, we'd be hailing the Queen instead of bashing Obama.
No, I'm not forgetting France's help...but as a community we stood up against the strongest nation in the world at the time.
We live in an age of professional soldiers.
Going to the shooting range and/or hunting deer does not prepare a citizen to engage in combat with trained soldiers.
These aren't meth heads looking for easy money or something to steal. These are trained killers. No modern day American "militia" has been anything but target practice when it came to conflicts with even nonmilitary units from the FBI or ATF. The idea that they can stand up to coordinated modern military combat is silly.
Patriotic chest thumping and zeitgeist won't stop a drone from planting a guided missile right in the middle of your militia camp at 2 am.
In the "invasion" scenario, there would hopefully be a unification of 300 million strong.
That's a lot of militias.
Guerilla warfare worked for the Vietnamese.
Who knows?
I think most of the US would crumple like one of Don Johnson's cheap suits.
Especially if the invaders offered free college.click to expand

Posted by SoulJust no conscience-- no soul.Posted by MontgomeryYes. Hybrids made from combining human and animal DNA. I imagine it would look like a person, but have a savage mentality. Likely taking on the aspects of it's animal parts, but also extremely smart and fully aware of self like a human.Posted by QuantumHe said government experimentsPosted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.
released on humanity
that are merely *called* aliens--
theres no such thing as aliens.
Chimeras... maybe.
click to expand

Posted by MontgomeryThat depends on how a soul is made. Does a soul chose It's location, or is a soul forced into Its location? Does a soul have a choice, has a soul long existed, or is the soul created with the fetus? Or is a soul the reaccuring energy that once created upon death can't escape the universe? Souls are complex it seems. More complex then a living lifeform. Which is even more off topic then I've already taken it lol.Posted by SoulJust no conscience-- no soul.Posted by MontgomeryYes. Hybrids made from combining human and animal DNA. I imagine it would look like a person, but have a savage mentality. Likely taking on the aspects of it's animal parts, but also extremely smart and fully aware of self like a human.Posted by QuantumHe said government experimentsPosted by SoulAliens will likely never happen. For a species to advance to the point they can travel instellar distances (space and time) they would have advanced far beyond the need to wage war. Even for resources.
We've yet to see an alien invasion, or top secret government experiments that escaped.
Or to be more spacific, government experiments the Satanists will create and release on humanity and call them aliens to abolish God and begin the new world order.
I just read an article about two astrophysicists developing an equation to solve the Fermi Paradox, and in average it should take 1500 years to make contact with another form of intelligent life. We've been broadcasting for 80 years. We still have time.
released on humanity
that are merely *called* aliens--
theres no such thing as aliens.
Chimeras... maybe.
Standard.
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