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Guns are never good....soemeone has a bad day...."i feel like shooting a lot of people today because I'm pissed off with llfe"

Madness 😳

Key word there is “someone”

You're okay with it until that "someone" aims his gun at you?

Point of no return, buddy.

I’ve had more than one person point a gun at me and you don’t see me calling for a gun ban.

The guns aren’t the issue......it’s the "people" using them.
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Precisely, "people"!

I'm not calling for a gun ban.

You must have it if you need to be protected but you must not have it if you are a minor or demented.

Thus, "restrictions" not necessarily total outlaw/ban/or something
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Guns are never good....soemeone has a bad day...."i feel like shooting a lot of people today because I'm pissed off with llfe"

Madness 😳

Key word there is “someone”

Someone, anyone, anybody who is unhinged with a gun can cause carnage...

Or a knife, bat to machete for that fact.

This is the new status quo.
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Yes, anybody who's willing "enough" can use any other tool to kill

But that's "willing enough"

I bet 99% of all the shootings will be prevented if harder gun restrictions are in place

You literally reduce their will to kill

Especially since most of these shooters are lazy-assed rednecks

When you prevent an easy way for them to kill others, you diminish their proclivity.
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I blame all this on our fucked up in the head president Donald Trump.

See, I told y'all geminis makes bad presidents.

I blame his Leo ascendant. JFK was ok.

I'd be more worried about his Moon Uranus opposition = loose cannon 😳
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Fuck!!! I think I got that too if my memory serve me correct.
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.
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Yes, anybody who's willing "enough" can use any other tool to kill

But that's "willing enough”

There were more murders in London earlier in the year than in NYC, mainly from stabbings. Yes, it might stop some people but criminals / gangs would just use knives, acid, pipe bombs or whatever else.

And remember guns being illegal is not going to stop criminals having them.
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exactly!!
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Knife crime......a fast person can run away from a crazy bastard brandishing one in a shopping centre...that is why you never hear about "mass knife murders" whereas guns shoot at long range and take out groups of people

No comparison...

This guy took one month stats for both cities and tried to make seem like facts

He’s an idiot
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I don't buy it .... guns can cause far more damage on a larger scale, as we know from the US mass shoot outs...
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.


Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing
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I blame all this on our fucked up in the head president Donald Trump.

See, I told y'all geminis makes bad presidents.

I blame his Leo ascendant. JFK was ok.
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I don't know much about Leo ascendants. I know fire signs can be some bad asses behind all those fake niceness and whathaveyou. I mean it could be a combination of both Leo ascendant and Gemini sun combine. I don't know. All I know is something got him all fucked up. I know that.

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Yes, anybody who's willing "enough" can use any other tool to kill

But that's "willing enough”

There were more murders in London earlier in the year than in NYC, mainly from stabbings. Yes, it might stop some people but criminals / gangs would just use knives, acid, pipe bombs or whatever else.

And remember guns being illegal is not going to stop criminals having them.
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"stopping some people" could be "many people"

why are we always talking in absolutes when we should be talking about numbers, percentages and likelihoods?

"some people" could be "a lot of people"

numbers will go down

life would be safer
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing
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That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing

That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.
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"if you have money and access to the internet"
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing

That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.
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"if you have money and access to the internet"
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing

That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

"if you have money and access to the internet"
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let me guess...if we ban or restrict money and internet access...all the bad stuff in the world would stop *eye roll*
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.
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The issue is "access"

If you make access easy, it will be very difficult to be prevented

As what's happening now in the US

Crime Prevention is still a thing

But when access is so easy, how can you prevent it?

Preventive measures should include gun restrictions
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing.


That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

👆 look at what he said.

Also don’t you guys literally sell guns at Walmart?? Like what on earth? Obviously the more easily available the more it happens. This isn’t rocket science it’s marketing 101.
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And kids can buy them, not a lotto ticket or smokes, but a gun

Wow 😮
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing.


That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

👆 look at what he said.

Also don’t you guys literally sell guns at Walmart?? Like what on earth? Obviously the more easily available the more it happens. This isn’t rocket science it’s marketing 101.
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Ever heard of the deep web, black market...I'm sure there are other places as well....its illogical to think someone won't find a way.
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.
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And America is top of the list for using them
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing

That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

"if you have money and access to the internet"

let me guess...if we ban or restrict money and internet access...all the bad stuff in the world would stop *eye roll*
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you're speaking as if everyone has all the money in the world. not true.
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing.


That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

👆 look at what he said.

Also don’t you guys literally sell guns at Walmart?? Like what on earth? Obviously the more easily available the more it happens. This isn’t rocket science it’s marketing 101.

Ever heard of the deep web, black market...I'm sure there are other places as well....its illogical to think someone won't find a way.

? I think you might not have understood what I said. I think it should be made as hard as possible not available everywhere you look. I like the restricting ammunition idea that makes a lot of sense at the very least. Just because you can’t solve 100% doesn’t give you an excuse not to solve 80% .
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No...I think you may have misunderstood me. Try as you might and there is nothing wrong with trying but it will not stop criminals, murders and the like from finding ways and other means of killing or harming others.
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Wow man see this shit right here is potentially one of the reasons why I opts out this site.

You just can't have a good intelligent conversation without someone name calling and wants to start acting like a child arguing with innocent users.

This place has gone toxic.

Smh

So you couldn’t focus on actual conversations happening in here but decided to focus on the drama, acting hella dramatic with your corn ass post

If this place is toxic

Fuking delete

Don’t try to police ppl especially not me

I’ll burn your ass

Mute is an option too

I have zero fuks for bytch asses on the internet
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You're a joke and a racist. Just like our fucked up in the head president Donald Trump.

Now carry on about your business while I do the same.
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.

The issue is "access"

If you make access easy, it will be very difficult to be prevented

As what's happening now in the US

Crime Prevention is still a thing

But when access is so easy, how can you prevent it?

Preventive measures should include gun restrictions

It’s as simple as that, but political shenanigans makes it difficult to implement

Fear governs most American action on this topic
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I hear you.

Also, I don't read the titles of news reports anyway. Sometimes news agencies tend to dissuade people. I read them but I have to take them with a grain of salt. Numbers are far more reliable than the titles.

I have yet to read that London murders higher than NY murders news report. In my point of view, what is the relevance of this news? That it's not the gun restrictions that would solve the mass shootings issue? If London has higher murder stats, maybe it could be another factor that's driving the numbers up. Also, what about the other countries? Why do we concentrate on one city alone? Shouldn't we consider other cities too?
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing.


That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

👆 look at what he said.

Also don’t you guys literally sell guns at Walmart?? Like what on earth? Obviously the more easily available the more it happens. This isn’t rocket science it’s marketing 101.

Ever heard of the deep web, black market...I'm sure there are other places as well....its illogical to think someone won't find a way.

? I think you might not have understood what I said. I think it should be made as hard as possible not available everywhere you look. I like the restricting ammunition idea that makes a lot of sense at the very least. Just because you can’t solve 100% doesn’t give you an excuse not to solve 80% .

No...I think you may have misunderstood me. Try as you might and there is nothing wrong with trying but it will not stop criminals, murders and the like from finding ways and other means of killing or harming others.

It will not stop 100% . It will stop a significant portion. No one is saying anything different.
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So you really believe....banning or restrictions is going to stop a portion of criminals and murders? Which portion exactly?
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Not all people are the same. Not everyone is brilliant and could find ways whatever may be the situation. Not everyone has money. Not everyone goes to the internet. Not everyone is minor. Not everyone is demented.

But everyone can easily access guns.

Everyone!!!

Even if you restrict gun sales in one state, people can go to the next state and buy guns

For example we have heavy taxes in WA for liquor

Every time I’m in duty free I buy liquor

Or when anybody goes to Portland Oregon they take liquor orders

I try very hard not to buy liquor in Washington state
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taxes are not the same as restrictions

taxes only increase the prices of commodities

but restrictions make it impossible for certain people to access guns no matter how much money they may have

taxes only dissuade people from buying products

but restrictions PREVENT certain people from buying them

For example, here in the PH, before you can buy guns, you must have licence to carry firearms.

guns should not be sold to minors and demented persons
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.

And America is top of the list for using them

I'm still not concerned.
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Wow....I am and I don't even live there....
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Not all people are the same. Not everyone is brilliant and could find ways whatever may be the situation. Not everyone has money. Not everyone goes to the internet. Not everyone is minor. Not everyone is demented.

But everyone can easily access guns.

Everyone!!!


Which again will not stop someone from still getting access to them whether you restrict or ban them.

And not everyone who owns a gun/s are out committing mass killings and the like. So instead of looking at why someone does what they do (actions)....you think banning and restricting access to things is going to change that the actions of others?
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.

And America is top of the list for using them

I'm still not concerned.

Wow....I am and I don't even live there....
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I'm concerned because I have cousins and friends in the US

How's California? What are their gun laws?

One of my cousins just moved from NY to CA coz of the climate. She can't stand winter!
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Not all people are the same. Not everyone is brilliant and could find ways whatever may be the situation. Not everyone has money. Not everyone goes to the internet. Not everyone is minor. Not everyone is demented.

But everyone can easily access guns.

Everyone!!!

Even if you restrict gun sales in one state, people can go to the next state and buy guns

For example we have heavy taxes in WA for liquor

Every time I’m in duty free I buy liquor

Or when anybody goes to Portland Oregon they take liquor orders

I try very hard not to buy liquor in Washington state

taxes are not the same as restrictions

taxes only increase the prices of commodities

but restrictions make it impossible for certain people to access guns no matter how much money they may have

taxes only dissuade people from buying products

but restrictions PREVENT certain people from buying them

For example, here in the PH, before you can buy guns, you must have licence to carry firearms.

guns should not be sold to minors and demented persons
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What kind of mentality allows that? "Let's pop into the supermarket, buy some food, clothes and a gun" 😳

"Here have a gun even though you're mentally unstable and or a child?

Sounds like the making of a horror film doesn't it?
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Not all people are the same. Not everyone is brilliant and could find ways whatever may be the situation. Not everyone has money. Not everyone goes to the internet. Not everyone is minor. Not everyone is demented.

But everyone can easily access guns.

Everyone!!!

Even if you restrict gun sales in one state, people can go to the next state and buy guns

For example we have heavy taxes in WA for liquor

Every time I’m in duty free I buy liquor

Or when anybody goes to Portland Oregon they take liquor orders

I try very hard not to buy liquor in Washington state

taxes are not the same as restrictions

taxes only increase the prices of commodities

but restrictions make it impossible for certain people to access guns no matter how much money they may have

taxes only dissuade people from buying products

but restrictions PREVENT certain people from buying them

For example, here in the PH, before you can buy guns, you must have licence to carry firearms.

guns should not be sold to minors and demented persons

Can you reread my statement? One state can restrict while another does not

Why the restrictions have to come from the federal level

You’re from Manila so I’ll let your misunderstanding pass
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Okay, I get you.

The solution is a Constitutional Amendment.
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.

And America is top of the list for using them

I'm still not concerned.

Wow....I am and I don't even live there....

I'm concerned because I have cousins and friends in the US

How's California? What are their gun laws?

One of my cousins just moved from NY to CA coz of the climate. She can't stand winter!
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I'm concerned for all the innocent people trying to live a good life and the children who go to school everyday hoping they don't get a bullet in their head

Who wouldn't be concerned .... you'd have to be made of steel..
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Not all people are the same. Not everyone is brilliant and could find ways whatever may be the situation. Not everyone has money. Not everyone goes to the internet. Not everyone is minor. Not everyone is demented.

But everyone can easily access guns.

Everyone!!!

Even if you restrict gun sales in one state, people can go to the next state and buy guns

For example we have heavy taxes in WA for liquor

Every time I’m in duty free I buy liquor

Or when anybody goes to Portland Oregon they take liquor orders

I try very hard not to buy liquor in Washington state

taxes are not the same as restrictions

taxes only increase the prices of commodities

but restrictions make it impossible for certain people to access guns no matter how much money they may have

taxes only dissuade people from buying products

but restrictions PREVENT certain people from buying them

For example, here in the PH, before you can buy guns, you must have licence to carry firearms.

guns should not be sold to minors and demented persons

What kind of mentality allows that? "Let's pop into the supermarket, buy some food, clothes and a gun" 😳

"Here have a gun even though you're mentally unstable and or a child?

Sounds like the making of a horror film doesn't it?
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Yeah it surely is!

I think America's going down the drain with the Republicans making all decisions for their country
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I'm not a fan of guns but if you really think restrictions or banning them is going to make a difference...you're a dumbass. Idk how many times it needs to be said....CRIMINALS, MURDERS ETC WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AHOLD OF ANYTHING....all the bans and restrictions in the world is not going to stop it...in fact, I bet there would be a rise in other means of mass killings....like poison, bombs, etc....which will kill a lot more people ....which scares me more than someone owning a gun.

Simple: make poison, bombs absolutely impossible for access. That can be done. And even if it cannot be done, at least, the access will be heavily restrained. Not all murderers are that sharp anyway. There will be someone who could access, that's possible, but the stat will surely go down.

That's better than doing nothing.


That's not going to stop anyone....if you have money and access to the interent....you can get your hands on anything and people will.

👆 look at what he said.

Also don’t you guys literally sell guns at Walmart?? Like what on earth? Obviously the more easily available the more it happens. This isn’t rocket science it’s marketing 101.

Ever heard of the deep web, black market...I'm sure there are other places as well....its illogical to think someone won't find a way.

? I think you might not have understood what I said. I think it should be made as hard as possible not available everywhere you look. I like the restricting ammunition idea that makes a lot of sense at the very least. Just because you can’t solve 100% doesn’t give you an excuse not to solve 80% .

No...I think you may have misunderstood me. Try as you might and there is nothing wrong with trying but it will not stop criminals, murders and the like from finding ways and other means of killing or harming others.

It will not stop 100% . It will stop a significant portion. No one is saying anything different.

So you really believe....banning or restrictions is going to stop a portion of criminals and murders? Which portion exactly?

The hot headed impulsive type. You know the type to grab an available gun in the heat of the moment, that wouldn’t have been there with gun restriction?

Data has given us a lot of information on how easily susceptible we are to marketing and persuasion. You might not think so but having any product available everywhere will increase its likelihood of being purchased. The more people with guns the more wives shot the more accidental deaths the more the idea of using the gun is less vague idea and more easily executable plan.

You can look to other countries statistics to see how less available guns have resulted in not always 100% reduction but a significant reduction. It’s just data. 🤷‍♀️ I’d pull it for you but I’m just getting ready to go out and I’m sure you can find it for yourself!
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Oh is this data that you personally conducted or that you saw on Facebook? You know most countries distort their data on things to save face....right?
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It's a damn shame what's going on. I keep telling people: start severely restricting that ammunition, this shit will slowly go away.

I'm always one bad incident away from carrying 24/7. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Same argument as mine.

People should stop talking "it won't prevent the greatest assholes from access; they will always find a way"

Well not all of them are that sharp so a lot of these people would be prevented from doing harm

talk about numbers or percentages; not absolutes.

People will always find a way to inflict harm on others. It would just make it harder for them to stay motivated if they can't find something to shoot with.

but don't kid yourself, there's enough firearms and ammunition already out in the world as it is anyway.

And America is top of the list for using them

I'm still not concerned.

Wow....I am and I don't even live there....

Not just yet.
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Not just yet what? 🤔
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Not all people are the same. Not everyone is brilliant and could find ways whatever may be the situation. Not everyone has money. Not everyone goes to the internet. Not everyone is minor. Not everyone is demented.

But everyone can easily access guns.

Everyone!!!

Even if you restrict gun sales in one state, people can go to the next state and buy guns

For example we have heavy taxes in WA for liquor

Every time I’m in duty free I buy liquor

Or when anybody goes to Portland Oregon they take liquor orders

I try very hard not to buy liquor in Washington state
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It's not the same thing (it's not a legit comparison). If they ban guns in your state - and you "smuggle one from another state (cause you won't be allowed to just carry it around in your bag - like alcohol)" - you're committing a crime. If gun laws become serious in your state (like they are in countries like mine / which btw it's as big as an American state) - you'll go to jail if they catch you with a gun.
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If only you can change your gun laws, this madness would finally cease...

As they say, when you give power to a person, they will have the easy proclivity to abuse it.

I think the main cause for all the shootings lies in your absurdly easy gun restrictions.


There are consequences good & bad for every decision made whether u realize it or not. Taking guns today might be harmful for people in the future.

What direction do you see the world moving in now?

Being ignorant in perspective is no excuse in a war of good vs evil.
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