Is cheating in a relationship... (Page 4)

Posted by P-Angel

Posted by venusianbull
This is not about both sides of the Scales, this is about basic understanding on a very REAL level. I did not stand here before everyone and damn them to the Seventh Bolgia of Dante's Inferno, I stated MY truth. This is what I believe. What I know. And if that renders me the more closed minded of the argument. So be it.
This is about honesty, and honoring someone else. Respecting them, their feelings. THAT ( Open..wtfevah ) is not a relationship, it's a complete farce of everything it stands for.
Oh boo-hoo. Should I feel BADLY that my man knows exactly where he stands with me? Oh DEAR. I'm faithful. I'm such an asshole. The SHAME of wanting to have integrity, security and solidarity. I mean honestly, I should be taken out back by the hollyhocks and flogged.

VB, you pretend really good around here .... in reality, you're an asshole.

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Awwww, thanks P-Angel, it really is the little touches that mean so much.

Posted by ellessque

he clearly stated that we weren't grasping his point but made no attempt to tell us what the point was.

It's a Pisces thing. I'm convinced. Lol.


I kind of dig it though. Hanging out with Pisces is like hanging out with people that are ALWAYS high.
They say some of the strangest shit & then when you're like *nervous laugh* ...wait....what the?
They respond like "oh you don't get it?" "yeah, you wouldn't...you could never..."



*crickets*

😛

Pisces are so L337 😛 😛 😛 😛

♥

"then when you're like *nervous laugh* ...wait....what the?
They respond like "oh you don't get it?" "yeah, you wouldn't...you could never..."


hahaha I know!


But that's soooo not me...just all those other Pisces! 😛

I think it is blasting through all the illusions to come to the reality of it. I really and truly do. And to me, it's about looking someone square in the eyes and saying "I promise." And those shouldn't be taken lightly or broken. Yes, I get quite heated about it, because it's a very core belief for me.

Posted by Days22
I think you just love the peyote...

if you think so, but maybe you could try and understand another point of view rather then instantly criticizing

meh figure it our yourselves 🙂

*sigh* Hidden posts.

LOL Okay, that was just you being a turd. Freaking Scorp. 😛 *shaking fist at sky*

This wasn't about cheating, nor open relationships .. never was about that.

However, since your mind is inside of a box ... you could only comprehend cheating.



This subject isn't about cheating ... open your mind, read it again .... maybe you will then be able to see.

And secondly, you all would talk down to hybred, as if something is wrong with him for not clarifying more precisely for your brains to get it, and make it appear as though he must be at fault for not making YOU listen more closely, your brain is closed and you see it as his responsibility to open it for you ...

Which is the exact point made in this thread ... this thread isn't about cheating, it's about perspective.



And because you cannot see it .. he is at fault for you being closed .. same principal he makes in the OP about relationships.


Your small mind could only comprhend cheating .. and nothing beyond that.

People couldn't comprehend Einstien and thought he was retarded .... because they couldn't get it. just because they couldn't get, didn't make him wrong.


If you are so insecure about losing your man, then are you really romancing the man? Or are you romancing the fear of losing the man?

It's not rocket science ^^^^^^^ yet your brains are incapable of grasping a simple concept. And then you would make it sound like hybred is fucked up because you are that stupid.

Perhaps that is so P. But one cannot learn if the basic mechanisms driving the thought process are not presented. Not that I will be swayed in my thinking, but more of a real desire to see someones viewpoint. I find it hard to *open my mind* to something that smacks against everything I was ever shown. I have internalized the teachings and guiding hand of my parents. The bulk of which is Pisces taught. Father had the raising of me. I was instructed ever since I could understand that it is a gift to another person to be faithful, true. In fact that it is morally reprehensible to go against that.
I do not think this makes me an ignorant or backwards creature, just one of a different mindset.

Posted by ellessque
P,

he clearly stated that we weren't grasping his point but made no attempt to tell us what the point was.

he also clearly isn't down with this, and he doesn't have to tell me that, it is in his venus.

the intent was to stir the pot or a female acquaintance pissed in his cereal right before he posted.

When you say down with this, I suppose you mean cheating.

The point here wasn't about cheating.

If people then twisting the point, and then came at him with it .. what did you expect him to say? He's thinking about the point, you are thinking about something entirely different ... so how could your (third person) questions (which were actually accusations) and his answers coincide?


Welcome back btw .. I just realized it was you

Posted by venusianbull

But one cannot learn if the basic mechanisms driving the thought process are not presented.

They were presented, because if they weren't then nobody would have gotten it. Several people did get it .. so that means he presented his point.


You're are just that stupid .. any attempt you might have of denying that by trying to sound sophisticated only proves you are that stupid.


You're nothing except a big fat ego stroke .. good bye

If that is your belief of me P, then so be it. You know, the entire time here I have been interested in the dichotomy of yourself. How you shift from caring, thoughtful posts to saying things geared to undermine a person. I will tell you now that is not an evolved humans impetus. I stated an actual thought, you call me stupid, like a playground taunt. I could personally care less if anyone on this forum strokes my ego or not. And I'm still of the opinion that you know me not at all. I was trying to engage you in conversation for insight, you decided to take that and purposefully twist it to an excuse to make me feel poorly because your *opinion* of me is less than stellar. You do not see me madam. You see what you want and let everything else fall by the wayside. In effect engaging in the same behavior you accuse myself and others here of. Good day to you.

Posted by ellessque
what is with all the hidden posts btw?

who's chart is that KP?

(I'm inquisitive today, can you tell 😉)

anyways....i'm not slamming the OP. I was just throwing out my opinion. we all got sidetracked, which is bound to happen when the OP goes MIA (or hides their posts)

great discussion regardless, thanks OP!! 🙂

Thank you 🙂

I just lost patience lol (something I gotta work on)...and didn't bother cause

1. I felt like I didn't have the proper communication tools to help you understand any better (I get lost within my own thinking sometimes :S)

2. I knew eventually P.angel would get fed up and come save the day lol 😄 Thx P 🙂

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Here is the concept in action ..... this man is beside himself over a fear of losing, when this somethign that he could lose means absolutely nothing of value because she plays him.

You're welcome ... and your are correct you know, people get married to their pockets and won't muck even when they are beat, and then will take a bad beat to only make comment that they were sucked out on ... in reality, they were beat before the flop, not fifth street.

Sorry .. if you aren't a poker player that ^^^^^ won't make sense.

Posted by P-Angel
You're welcome ... and your are correct you know, people get married to their pockets and won't muck even when they are beat, and then will take a bad beat to only make comment that they were sucked out on ... in reality, they were beat before the flop, not fifth street.

Nah I dont play poker, but I get what you're saying lol! Ppl set themselves up, get hurt and then complain. 😄 always good to know we still have thinkers in the world...despite the overpopulation of zombies! lol

lol


People just tend to get stuck .... they have a feeling and it is all that matters, even to their own detriment .... and because we are ego based beings ... it must be the fault of some one/thing else.


I believe in what you guys say also ... normally my silence on a subject means agreement, so there is nothing to add. In this case, people were got stuck in the brain and couldn't comprehend anything beyond their immediately conclusion.


I'm so glad your are back, I was upset when you left, even if I didn't say anything about it ... because I knew you were struggling with your Piscean son, you are wanting him to be all he can be and just before you left, you were talking about how you are worried about him.

I hope all is well.

Posted by Days22
blah blah blah

this would all be fine and dandy if hybred actually practiced what he preached and didnt get all EMOTIONAL and get his EGO crushed when he FEARED his point wasnt being heard. So he his his posts.

the view is too general but I DO agree people should take care of themselves first and not put their well being in the hands of other people. And not really on other to be happy.

but at the same time people arent robots so they respond realistically. Sometimes over the top with emotions. But realistically.

I love how you're so confident with your assumptions 😄 lol! You would make a good puppet 😛

Posted by P-Angel

People just tend to get stuck .... they have a feeling and it is all that matters, even to their own detriment .... and because we are ego based beings ... it must be the fault of some one/thing else.

Oh... and that's the rub right there. It's just like religion (which I'm not getting in to) just suffice to say, a lot of religious people feel STRONGLY about their viewpoints, sometimes, sadly, to the detriment of others and their beliefs.

simple minded ppl are entertaining lol

Posted by Days22
well as long as my assuming is making an ass out of YOU and me then im all for it!!

The martyr comes out 😛

meh w/e days, I wish you the best 🙂

Posted by Days22
lol i wish you the best as well.

I have no problem with your views btw. I just dont think their very realistic in todays day and age.

Cool thx for the opinion 🙂

Posted by KingPisces

Posted by USCTaurusGal

Posted by P-Angel

People just tend to get stuck .... they have a feeling and it is all that matters, even to their own detriment .... and because we are ego based beings ... it must be the fault of some one/thing else.

Oh... and that's the rub right there. It's just like religion (which I'm not getting in to) just suffice to say, a lot of religious people feel STRONGLY about their viewpoints, sometimes, sadly, to the detriment of others and their beliefs.

If you only knew USC...

If you only knew...

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You aren't an idiot. You just are intelligent and highly passionate and feel very deeply. All of those things are wonderful, but have to be reigned in from time to time, because "people can't handle the truth." My favorite line from Jack Nicholas in "A Few Good Men." I quote that all the time, because I just read some of this stuff here or talk to my friends/family and colleagues and it never ceases to amaze me that people much prefer to live in some LA LA land than face the truth. I guess when you do that, you have to face the part YOU play in your own success and failure...it is too much for most people to face.

Posted by KingPisces

Posted by USCTaurusGal
You aren't an idiot. You just are intelligent and highly passionate and feel very deeply. All of those things are wonderful, but have to be reigned in from time to time, because "people can't handle the truth." My favorite line from Jack Nicholas in "A Few Good Men." I quote that all the time, because I just read some of this stuff here or talk to my friends/family and colleagues and it never ceases to amaze me that people much prefer to live in some LA LA land than face the truth. I guess when you do that, you have to face the part YOU play in your own success and failure...it is too much for most people to face.

And what if someone you love is in LA LA land?

Do you leave them stuck in their dream or do you wake them?

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That's a difficult question. If I were younger, I'd say "Don't wake them" now that I'm older, I know they will eventually find out that LA LA Land does not really exist; they will find out sooner or later my friend - this I can almost most assuredly guarantee. That doesn't mean that everything is doom, gloom, destruction and mayhem, but it's not a white-picket fence encased "perfect" home either.

Well from a spiritual point of view I would say you leave them be. Life is a journey and that is their journey to go through. Trying to control their outcome is coming from your lack of faith in them. Not saying you do this btw.

Posted by KingPisces
True but it could cause conflict down the line. My parents divorced due to religious differences.

Am I to inherit that same path?

Short answer...probably. Religion is so ingrained (typically from birth) in those that stay true to it, that if there is anything that comes along that is contrary to that religious upbringing, etc, it WILL cause conflict. Each person will be hardset in their beliefs, and will be unbending. That doesn't make one of them right or the other wrong, it is the reality of their circumstances. I'm not religious, I'm spiritual - there is a difference. I was brought up in a particular religion from birth until I was 18 and was able to break from that, because I saw the hypocrisy, and just plain evilness that was encapsulated in this so called "religion." That was my path...but everyone is different. Hopefully it won't become an issue; however, if you are already questioning it, I can't see it NOT becoming an issue at some point. When that transpires...who knows?

"What if she's willing to meet me halfway? Wouldn't that be saying something?"

There is always that possibility. People have changed religions for people they love, so it can and has been done! I honestly don't know what success rate % 's there are (because I've never honestly thought that much about it, since it doesn't really affect me), but I'm sure that while some may have their problems, many probably go on to have fulfilling lives together. Relationships are ALL about compromise, but you already know that 😉

^^^ you are too much! Holla'!

I love that song by Whitesnake, and yes, love is something else...I really don't want to have too much more to do with it, but I can say it's something else for damn sure!