Pisces and Bullying

I've seen A LOT of Pisces that are bullies. Probably more than any other sign (except Scorpio).
These same bullies seem to also have a strong penchant for social causes, and children...so I can tell they aren't bad people but can be ridiculously cruel towards other adults, and unyielding.

Where does that come from? I'm very mystified by this. They almost seem dedicated to hurting people that they feel do not comply with their beliefs. Were a lot of Pisces bullied as children?

Any insight is really appreciated. I'm coming from a place of trying to understand, and dial down any conflicts. The more I try to kindly reason,the more upset they seem to get. Withdrawing also creates a reaction. It's like you can't win!

Posted by PVAF
Hmm. I don't know. The Pisces I know wouldn't crush a grape in a fruit fight. As for me, I've been bullied, but I wouldn't bully others.

That said, yes. Pisces can be bullies, as evident of a few members on this very forum. The thing is, we are very in touch with our emotions. Thus it makes us effective at bullying others cause we know just how to cut them. And I've met my share of hypocrites, only tolerate of those who share their beliefs, no matter how skewed and narrow that they are.

They come very aggressively I've noticed. Matched only by Scorpios. It's like their mission is to bring you down. They just don't stop!

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
First of all, what is your definition of being a bully?

Secondly, regardless of astrology, why would you keep exposing yourself to negativity?
If nothing works, take control and remove these individuals from your life.

Simples.

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A bully is someone that attacks others in public, relentlessly, in an attempt to harm them and incite a public approval of this. They tend to strike where the opponent has no say in the matter.
I don't expose myself. I deleted and blocked this person online. Which prompted them to post a picture of our conversation and try to incite a large uprising. Which a friend showed me, and i responded I don't care. Please do not share things like this with me. It left me perplexed however, because I have ONLY had this problem with Pisces. It's like they have a hard time letting things go...and they drain me from a distance even! I have a harder time shrugging them off, because I feel their responses are so unjust, silly, and cruel.

I've met Cancer, Scorpio and Aries bullies but no Pisces. I am one myself.
The cancer used to exclude people, while the Scorpio made fun of the ones she didn't like.
The Aries was more aggressive but only when she felt provoked. Otherwise she just plain out ignored the people she disliked.

Different people, different methods...
And all girls. Wonder if that makes a difference?

A bully is a person who intentionally harms others without initial provocation. This harm can be physical, psychological or emotional.

I enjoy serving bullies their just desserts by using their own tactics against them, and then some.

Maybe.
I have had an Aries come at me hard, but it didn't offend me, was just annoying lol. And ignoring her was the best medicine.
Scorpio, major bullies, but again, so outright nasty that it was just silly and ignoring her was also the best medicine. I've found Pisces really go for the jugular. And I seem to have a penchant for unknowingly pissing them off. Then it seems like all the can do is just talk about how much they hate me to everyone they know. I suppose I should be flattered, but I'm confused! I have barely known all of these people. I'm pretty blunt, but always polite. Always honest. All I said to this person was, Hey sorry i don't really have time for this drama. I am at work, have a good one. Then they felt the need to take a screen shot of that private message and post it publicly so everyone can attempt to take shots at my character? My respnse to this was just to block the person. But it's still a bit hurtful.

I've since removed my fb profile, because I think I need to make my Circle a lot smaller, but it's hard to do that and market your business, cause I will lose my initial reach. So until I figure that out I just deactivated everything. Social networks are tough, because very weak people use them as a platform for bullying. I'm very strong,and confident, and I know these people would not dare state these things in person.

Posted by ScorpioFish
A bully is a person who intentionally harms others without initial provocation. This harm can be physical, psychological or emotional.

I enjoy serving bullies their just desserts by using their own tactics against them, and then some.

I'm not an eye for an eye type. I'm more, you slap my right cheek, I turn the other to you...type. I believe what goes around comes around. Especially with someone who is unemployed and living off their parent;s riches that has all day to fight on social networks. I don't have time for that garbage. I don't want to ever have time for that.

Someone at a higher position than I and others I work with is a jerk, and that's an understatement. I did what I had to and spoke to a supervisor about my issues with him which have been going on since I started working there if my shift is when he's there. There are people who also have known about him for a long time but haven't worked directly under him who also notice his shitty attitude. If nothing comes of my complaint to the supervisor and manager, I will be ripping him a new one. Another Pisces I know who gets along with this prick is a very pretentious Pisces too. At least until I start ignoring her and/or she gets yelled at by one of us because she makes believe that it's in her place to tell is what to do.

There are two other Pisces guys who in the beginning were extremely rude, but I was rude back so he stopped, and the other seems to just have a hard time communicating, though he seems like he's trying really hard, so I tried to help him by talking with him though we hardly know each other and his manners or lack thereof disappoint me. But these are things that can be worked on, and since he's making an effort to involve himself with others, it's possible that he will learn this. There are many great Pisces, though. Remember though that there are nice people and shitheads everywhere regardless of things like sign.

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Posted by djbuck1
Meh. Just another "Pisces Hate" thread.

Pretty much

@ OP

Esp this era people like to expose others through social media, I've seen every gender of every zodiac sign do it.. So really that is defo not a Pisces thing.

However, when a Pisces tries to harm you 1) Best believe it's a reaction to something you did.
2) It probably bothers you more because Pisceans know instinctively how to get to you.
When provoked we are not passive at all. People underestimate us and think they can mess about with us and then cry when they realize we're far from victims.

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Completely agree with this😉

I think it's funny how a lot of the pisces are getting defensive and taking this personally! LOL
I think I figured it out now....😉

That being said, the re post honestly just makes her look cray cray.
I don't have anything to hide, I just think that kind of behavior is silly. And a private message is a private message for a reason. That being said, I stand behind my words.
You see a long crazy paragraph from her seemingly out of nowhere.
Me saying Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.
Another huge crazy paragraph.
Me saying sorry, at work, don't have time for the drama. Have a good day.

I just found out this girl lit someone's shoes on fire the last time she got pissed off.

Loose cannon.
Overemotional. Yuck.

CORNFUZZLE😱 Thanks, that gives me more incite to her perspective 🙂

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Posted by 2N3R
Remember though that there are nice people and shitheads everywhere regardless of things like sign.

Spot on.

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That's obvious.
What's also obvious is that we are on an astrology site...............

I know one very sweet Pisces lady.
She is like a little fairy.

Posted by anonymousheart

Posted by djbuck1

Posted by 2N3R
Remember though that there are nice people and shitheads everywhere regardless of things like sign.

Spot on.

That's obvious.
What's also obvious is that we are on an astrology site...............

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OK, but you seem to think that Taurus in general are all a certain way and Pisces in general are all this way. By your logic, I should think that all Cancers are like CluelessCancer, all Sagittarians are sluts who just want to have fun based o one particular member, Leos are way egotistical, Aries are full of hot air, Geminis and Aquarians are high and every thing astrology sites say about every sign is totally true.

At least when I ask a question, I'm specific about who it is I speak of and not thinking every single person that was born when the sun was in a certain constellation are like that. When I respond to threads, I tend to say, "For me/In my case" because I will not answer for every Taurus because I cannot since I am only one. I give answers in the form of possibilities and ideas rather than facts because astrology is not based on facts which is why many do not accept it as a science.

Posted by cornfuzzled4ever
I agree, posting a private convo like that is supremely immature and (in most situations) unwarranted. If she's crazy enough to burn people's shoes then I really don't know what to tell you. Try and "fix" whatever upset her, but if she's completely irrational, then that's not possible.

So either try and ignore her.
Or try and beat her at her own games. Whichever leaves you with more peace of mind.

I don't wanna beat her. I just tried to remove her and I can. It's a big city. And the people that matter truly to me aren't connected to her. Good advice here, thanks. I appreciate your unbiased logical response. I think that's why I don't get along so well with certain signs that take things personally...cough cough, see above.

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Anonymous, you come here saying you know a lot of Pisceans are cruel bullies when later on in the thread it shows that the whole thread was inspired by one specific falling out. And then you have the guts to say we're being over emotional when we just saw from the beginning you were bullshitting and called you out on it.

Next time when you "try to understand", just cut the crap and come straight to the point. Works a lot better😉

This. Plus notice the passive aggressive remarks.

OP, if you want logical, unbiased responses then you have to be completely objective and unbiased, too. You came in here already biased, which made that part of it null and then reacting to certain posters by saying we're being over emotional and stuff will also not give you objective responses. How other people react is based on how you react as well. So maybe the pisces you have problems with are also doing that. Bullying is an action that is brought about usually by those people being abused or bullied themselves. Pisces are not any more inclined to be abused by others, therefore, it's not a sign based thing. Look at a person's past history and their environment and I'm sure you will find more answers that way than you will asking about astrological reasons here.

Posted by cornfuzzled4ever
Piscean*

I saw that! I'm so curious about your chart dude. You seem to have an earthy energy.

Posted by Prince_Pisces
Im not a bully 🙂 However, I don't mind treating you like shit, if I don't like you LOL!

Oh, I've seen your posts. Your the adorable type of Pisces with great beauty tips. #winning

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Anonymous, you come here saying you know a lot of Pisceans are cruel bullies when later on in the thread it shows that the whole thread was inspired by one specific falling out. And then you have the guts to say we're being over emotional when we just saw from the beginning you were bullshitting and called you out on it.

Next time when you "try to understand", just cut the crap and come straight to the point. Works a lot better😉

Wrong again.
Whole thread was inspired by four instances with four people in my life.
Then an additional 3 I observed with family members- as a spectator.
The one stated was recent, but thank you for your bold assumptions. I'm very impressed with your intuitiveness.

" Look at a person's past history and their environment and I'm sure you will find more answers that way than you will asking about astrological reasons here."
That's true. But I don't know that this is available to me, or that I care to dig too deep into someone's personal business.

Posted by anonymousheart
" Look at a person's past history and their environment and I'm sure you will find more answers that way than you will asking about astrological reasons here."
That's true. But I don't know that this is available to me, or that I care to dig too deep into someone's personal business.

That's perfectly acceptable. But you won't find your answers through astrology.

I don't completely agree, but it compels me to ask you why you are here?

Posted by anonymousheart
I don't completely agree, but it compels me to ask you why you are here?

You mean on an astrology board? Because astrology is fun. But I don't think it should be taken seriously and it can also not give you answers to things, traits, qualities that are formed from experiences with other people, positive and negative experiences, and brain development. Things like abuse are not related to a person's personality, which is what astrology is about. Sure, some say astrology can predict things like how many kids you will have, etc, but that is often inaccurate and the people who say it is accurate only derive that basis from the people they know who follow their beliefs...and they ignore those that don't fit into that mold which is the majority. Astrology cannot give you answers to everything....it can give you very minimal answers, actually. What you were asking in your OP cannot be found in astrology, which is what my main point was here.

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Posted by djbuck1
Meh. Just another "Pisces Hate" thread.

However, when a Pisces tries to harm you 1) Best believe it's a reaction to something you did.
2) It probably bothers you more because Pisceans know instinctively how to get to you.

When provoked we are not passive at all. People underestimate us and think they can mess about with us and then cry when they realize we're far from victims.

I agree.

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+1

i don't think a mature pisces hurt others unless provoked.

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Posted by anonymousheart
I don't completely agree, but it compels me to ask you why you are here?

You mean on an astrology board? Because astrology is fun. But I don't think it should be taken seriously and it can also not give you answers to things, traits, qualities that are formed from experiences with other people, positive and negative experiences, and brain development. Things like abuse are not related to a person's personality, which is what astrology is about. Sure, some say astrology can predict things like how many kids you will have, etc, but that is often inaccurate and the people who say it is accurate only derive that basis from the people they know who follow their beliefs...and they ignore those that don't fit into that mold which is the majority. Astrology cannot give you answers to everything....it can give you very minimal answers, actually. What you were asking in your OP cannot be found in astrology, which is what my main point was here.

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Gotcha.
Thank you for taking time to clarify.

And I think its a lot more complex than that too sometimes. Cancers and pisces can be sadists... Looking back to when I was younger me and this cancer friend of mine named zach used to spray other kids with super soakers and ram into their bikes with ours and CRACK up over it... I'm really not sure why. It was just funny. I like to think most grow out of it if they do ever encounter it at all.

Keep in mind pisces read into things personally... Sometimes small things like someone saying 'okay?' to something I said have sent me into a silent self doubting rage. I mean think about it, tiny little things like that actually mean a lot when you read into them... As a pisces the most annoying thing to me is when someone that annoys me and is sort of a dickhead openly judges me when I've been completely tolerant... Thats when I want to go for the jugular.

I think I was a bit of a bully when I was younger.

Also pisces can be anything, but most adults aren't bully, they can be ruthless capitalists tho

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Posted by LadyOfRebirth

Posted by djbuck1
Meh. Just another "Pisces Hate" thread.

However, when a Pisces tries to harm you 1) Best believe it's a reaction to something you did.
2) It probably bothers you more because Pisceans know instinctively how to get to you.

When provoked we are not passive at all. People underestimate us and think they can mess about with us and then cry when they realize we're far from victims.

I agree.

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Double DITTO

Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Anonymous, you come here saying you know a lot of Pisceans are cruel bullies when later on in the thread it shows that the whole thread was inspired by one specific falling out. And then you have the guts to say we're being over emotional when we just saw from the beginning you were bullshitting and called you out on it.

Next time when you "try to understand", just cut the crap and come straight to the point. Works a lot better😉

Yep..Same old b.s. in dxp land.😢

^lets harp on it, after the thread has gotten more positive. That should help.

Not a big fan of all the boohooing.

Posted by lysergicaciddiethylamide
Keep in mind pisces read into things personally... Sometimes small things like someone saying 'okay?' to something I said have sent me into a silent self doubting rage. I mean think about it, tiny little things like that actually mean a lot when you read into them... As a pisces the most annoying thing to me is when someone that annoys me and is sort of a dickhead openly judges me when I've been completely tolerant... Thats when I want to go for the jugular.

That makes a lot of sense, and I think is close to how I was interpreted. Though I am just very literal so I think it was taken personal, when it wasn't personal.

Anyways, you're onto something with the sadist. Another Pisces I knew used to intentionally hurt himself in extreme sports...I saw him fall ON PURPOSE. Then he came home and complained about it, but also really wanted to show everyone his open wounds. It was like he was an odd mix of proud/pitying himself...when all along I knew it was self induced. I never said anything, but I found that very strange.

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Posted by cornfuzzled4ever
Not saying that they were in the right. But it seems that you did something to piss them off. I reason this because you said they have a hard time letting things go, and why else would they post a conversation the two of you had, if not to expose something messed up you had said to them?

I could be wrong. But it doesn't sound like they just randomly started bullying you. It sounds like you had a disagreement with an individual, and reached an impasse. It also seems that the Piscean believes that YOU wronged THEM in some way (hence the attempts for public support).

So what exactly is your quarrel over?

Yup. We can be as vicious as enemies, as we are loyal as friends.

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Yup. That seems to be how all loyal ppl are. And if you attack their loyalties? Vicious to the max

Rebirth is spot on.

If a Pisces whacks you over the head, its 99.9% of the time because you deserve it.

I have yet to whack anyone hard unless they have it coming for being an asshole or some other form of lowlife who harms others.

Rebirth is spot on.

If a Pisces whacks you over the head, its 99.9% of the time because you deserve it.

I have yet to whack anyone hard unless they have it coming for being an asshole or some other form of lowlife who harms others.

Posted by anonymousheart

Posted by PVAF

Posted by cornfuzzled4ever
Not saying that they were in the right. But it seems that you did something to piss them off. I reason this because you said they have a hard time letting things go, and why else would they post a conversation the two of you had, if not to expose something messed up you had said to them?

I could be wrong. But it doesn't sound like they just randomly started bullying you. It sounds like you had a disagreement with an individual, and reached an impasse. It also seems that the Piscean believes that YOU wronged THEM in some way (hence the attempts for public support).

So what exactly is your quarrel over?

Yup. We can be as vicious as enemies, as we are loyal as friends.

Yup. That seems to be how all loyal ppl are. And if you attack their loyalties? Vicious to the max

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honestly, i disagree. maybe i was vicious to enemies that were once friends to me when i was younger and immature. today, i will never trash talk or do anything to hurt someone who was once a friend - no matter how badly they've hurt me. i will cut them out of my life, yes, but that's the end of it. today i choose the high road bc at one point that person meant a lot to me, and i won't hurt them bc in some way i will always love them regardless if they are in my life or not. even if the 'friend/enemy' has thrown me under the bus and lies about what actually happened, i still choose to take the high road. i find being vicious does nothing for me except prolong my own misery.

Really? Wow. I've never even heard of a coercive pisces. I'm a pisces, and I refuse to even step on bugs. and my fellow pisces friends are all utterly harmless lol

Posted by anonymousheart
^lets harp on it, after the thread has gotten more positive. That should help.

Not a big fan of all the boohooing.

That's another thing Pisces peeps hone in on. Denial by the one who was called out. No boohooing about it, well from the Pisces that is😉

In all fairness, many come in here and stereotype Pisces positively and most will accept that. On the flip side, some will stereotype negatively and it doesn't make much sense to get defensive or upset about it. Positive or negative, it either applies to you or it don't.

No anonymousheart you can not and will not win ever!

Posted by anonymousheart
I've seen A LOT of Pisces that are bullies. Probably more than any other sign (except Scorpio).
These same bullies seem to also have a strong penchant for social causes, and children...so I can tell they aren't bad people but can be ridiculously cruel towards other adults, and unyielding.

Where does that come from? I'm very mystified by this. They almost seem dedicated to hurting people that they feel do not comply with their beliefs. Were a lot of Pisces bullied as children?

Any insight is really appreciated. I'm coming from a place of trying to understand, and dial down any conflicts. The more I try to kindly reason,the more upset they seem to get. Withdrawing also creates a reaction. It's like you can't win!

Someone at work?

One thing you are right, Scorpios are far worse. But Pisces? they must have a good darn reason or reasons to do it.

Yes, many pisces were bullied as children, I was, and now I pitty those lost souls.

Once more, some situation at work?

Beluga, that's more how I am.
But this person is not very mature. I resolved the situation by removing them. I had a lot of friends coming to me saying this person was still going on about it and making themselves look crazy. So, it's no longer my problem.

No one at work. Are you kidding me? I would not tolerate this at work. There is a mega bxchy Pisces I work with, but I just charmed her a long time ago because I saw she was a drama queen. If you are on her badside though, who is everyone who doesn't agree with her, she will really mess up your job situation. On the upside, she has a great sense of humor.

I think it's interesting there are a lot of ppl here saying, "Don't judge all Pisces." Then turning around and saying, "If a Pisces is mad at you, you deserve it." Which is a judgement. This is hypocrisy at it's finest. I guess what they meant to say is, "Don't judge Pisces in a way that makes us look bad."

Posted by cornfuzzled4ever
@ Scorpiofish, I think maybe 99.9% the Pisces thinks its deserved. Doesn't mean it is. Pisceans aren't known for being the most rational characters, so how could they be decidedly fair?

That being said, I'll own up to being a sadist. I only ever bullied people who I thought was assholes to others, but that was just my opinion anyway. And the reality is, that was just justification. Piscean need to feel morally justified.

I was at a friends apartment one time. We heard the neighbor's fighting. First verbally, then physically. It got to the point where we could hear silverware and furniture being thrown around. And then we heard the woman being hit by the man, then she started screaming, then we could hear her being suffocated. At the point where we could hear her being beaten, I immediately started heading over there. By the time I got to their front door is when we could hear her being strangled. I slammed on their door till they answered it, basically busted inside. The guy answered the door, and I could see the woman bleeding on the ground behind him, rubbing her throat. She had choke marks, and was shaking. I stepped inside, and The guy made a move at me, so I grabbed the door and slammed him into the wall with it. He stood back up and stepped at me, and I did the same thing again. At which point he went into a bedroom. I then helped the woman pack her things, load them in a car and leave.

When the girls asked me why I did it, I told them it was because we all thought the woman was going to get killed, and I couldn't live with my conscience if I just listened to it happen and did nothing. That was completely true. They all thought I was a hero from that, and of course two of them rewarded me in special ways for being brave.

But that wasn't the biggest reason I went over there. The biggest reason was because it gave me a chance to hurt someone and exert power over them. The fact that it was a scumbag abuser who "deserved it" just made it so no one cared.

WOW! You're very introspective and bold to admit that. Regardless of reasoning, you did the right thing.

Posted by Quest4Water
In all fairness, many come in here and stereotype Pisces positively and most will accept that. On the flip side, some will stereotype negatively and it doesn't make much sense to get defensive or upset about it. Positive or negative, it either applies to you or it don't.

+1

Posted by anonymousheart
I think it's interesting there are a lot of ppl here saying, "Don't judge all Pisces." Then turning around and saying, "If a Pisces is mad at you, you deserve it." Which is a judgement. This is hypocrisy at it's finest. I guess what they meant to say is, "Don't judge Pisces in a way that makes us look bad."

Hmmm......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In case I missed a reference to your age... How old are you?

Posted by SilentTempest
In case I missed a reference to your age... How old are you?

Q directed to the OP!

The word, "it's" is a contraction of two words - it and is.

In the second partial sentence of the quote below, you used the contraction to say ....

"..... at it is finest."

Posted by anonymousheart

I think it's interesting ....

... at it's finest.

And the word, 'judgment' is not spelled, "judgement"




To topic .... obviously a Pisces got your panties wadded up your ass, and I'm thinking it's because she pointed out that you're kind of dumb when it comes to having a handle on your language of choice, and you can't handle the truth.

lol!

Posted by SilentTempest
In case I missed a reference to your age... How old are you?

I'm 28. And yourself?

Posted by P-Angel
The word, "it's" is a contraction of two words - it and is.

In the second partial sentence of the quote below, you used the contraction to say ....

"..... at it is finest."

Posted by anonymousheart

I think it's interesting ....

... at it's finest.

And the word, 'judgment' is not spelled, "judgement"




To topic .... obviously a Pisces got your panties wadded up your ass, and I'm thinking it's because she pointed out that you're kind of dumb when it comes to having a handle on your language of choice, and you can't handle the truth.

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You're so edgy and straight to the point. So smart. You don't even care what people think you just say it! So beyond your peers..


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