Please read I would like an opinnion

Those of you that have read my post in the past you know that i have been chasing my Pisces for some time now. We were doing fantastic! Everything was great! We were up to spending 4 to 5 days a week together and it was all his doing. He would phone me and ask to see me I would rarely phone him. He had a conversation with my girlfriend and mentioned to her that he and I had been doing so well and that he appreciated how understanding I was and how I was always there for him. He mentioned to her that we hadnt faught in the last 2 months and everything was great. I felt like I mastered it! Yah! Then it happened! He had a birthday party which i was invited to. Several things happened at the party that I chose to ignore becasue it was his special day.

1st: We were debating on if I would arrive with him or arrive with my girlfriend. We spoke the day of the party and he said he would phone me later to see what we would do. He never phoned me so i just showed up with my girlfriend because i figured he was so busy getting everything ready that it just slipped his mind. No big deal its his special day! lol! Oh by the way my girlfriend is his best friends little sister)

2nd: We arrive at the party 3 hours late and does he bother to check on me to see why i was late or if something happened....NO! Oh well though no big deal!

3rd: When we get there we pay our respects to every one and prepare to sit for dinner. He sits on the complete opposite side of the table not with me! There was a chair right next to him and he didnt even say babe sit next to me. Whatever he probably just figured I wanted to sit with my girlfriend. Right? Lol! He wants to talk to me from across the table so he is yelling accross to get my attention. Weird just ask me to sit next to you....hello! The entire night i felt like i was there to keep my girlfriend company for a party that her older brother invited us to. I was my girlfriends older brothers little sisters friends joing them for a family function....wait does that make sense? You get me....

4th: I ask him to take a shot with me for his birthday and he says babe i already had three shots im drunk i dont think i can handle another shot. I said ok then....walked away like a sad little girl....lol! Then about a half an hour later he was at the bar taking a shot with a few of his boys. No big deal he probably got peer pressured. Do you see how i am trying my hardest to be understanding....lol!

5th: I ask him to dance he said babe you know i dont dance. 20 minutes later he is on the dance floor with his best friend. No big deal! His best friend is married and I am sure he is so drunk he doesnt even realize hes dancing.

6th: Night is coming to an end and I decide I have already made myself look like an idiot what the heck am i doing there so i say my good byes. He get upset because he doesnt want me to leave. I am sure he wanted me to go home with him....but i notice there is a girl lingering around him and he doesnt even bother to introduce her...oh well. I found out later she was his receptionist who showed up alone and he was just being a good host. At the end of the night for some reason he was mad at me maybe he felt my tension who knows but he walks us out to our cars...its me my girlfriends brother the unknown girl and my guy as we are walking to our cars he asked me where i parked asked her where she parked i was on the left she was on the right side....he walks her to her car and asked my girlfriends brother to make sure i get to mine safe..........HELLO!

once he gets back to from walking her he comes over to my car and we begin to fight...i was pissed he said it was no big deal she is his receptionist who showed up alone we were in a pretty ghetto area and he felt that he should make sure she made it safe to her car.....what about me. he didnt even explain that to me or say hold on babe let me walk her to her car or even introduce. how am i supposed to take that? thats weird!
we began to fight and he broke up with me he said i ruined his birthday and people were there to see him not me and i was inconsiderate. The next day we spoke and he said i was drama because i brought up all the other stuff at this point as well....he broke up with me its been two weeks and i havent heard from him

am i at fault or was he completly inconsiderate? I know he wanted to tend to all his guest but there is a ways to go about it without making your chick feel unwanted! I felt like an idiot! What was i even doing there? I have invited him to several of my function and i make time for him, introduce him and make him feel special.....

He sounds really immature, and you have a right to be annoyed. The evening sounds really unfulfilling.... But I must admit, if someone was 3 hours late for my birthday party, the first thing I would expect is for her to come up say sorry--we got in a bind ..etc... (and perhaps you did and I am stupidly missing it). Immediately be upfront with him. It sounds like you were probably annoyed (rightfully or wrongly) that he had not made his messy Pisces Jello plans firm but you tried to play it off. I think that was a mistake. I can't understand what the interaction was when you arrived. Maybe he was annoyed that you were late and did the same thing --said oh well and blew it off and acted nonchalant (add on the drinking). I just feel that this whole thing got off to a very odd bad start and snowballed into a worse situation with both people having their sensitive feelings hurt. I wouldn't care about the receptionist thing--he is tryoing to be a host and gentleman to soemone who was along and perhaps knew only a handful of folks--and maybe that is one of the reasons he is your guy and you care for him.

I should say I in no way condone his silliness. I would find his little shenanigans irritating; he sounds very young....

Blueskies,

He knew that if i went with my girlfriend that i would be arriving late. She didnt get out of work until 10pm. When i spoken to him in the morning i asked him exactly like this....

Babe are you going to want me to arrive to the party with you? He said dont know babe because its supposed to be a surprise and i am not supposed to know about it. If we show up together it might look like i knew but i will call you later and we will figure it out. right now i am a bit busy with work so we will discuss it later. I told him to keep in mind that my girlfriend doesnt get out of work till late so that if i went with her i would be showing up a bit late. He said ok we will talk about it later...he never called so i figured to just show up with her. When I arrive at the party i apologized for being late even though he already knew i was going to be he said no big deal i just arrived myself...he was late to his own party as well....

so really i dont think his actions were based upon me being late at all

he was not mad about me being late he laughed and said its ok i was late to my own party too. he knew i was going to show up later if i went with my girlfriend. there had been no drama at all in the last 2 months if you read in the first post i said that the day before he had spoken to my best friend and told her how well we had been doing and how happy he was that we were working out....

from post 1:
He had a conversation with my girlfriend and mentioned to her that he and I had been doing so well and that he appreciated how understanding I was and how I was always there for him. He mentioned to her that we hadnt faught in the last 2 months and everything was great.

if i was at fault i was at fault....i can handle it i guess

just sad i havent heard from him in the last two weeks and i will not call him because he broke up with me and asked me to never call him again....

so i wont...

Lol! I was mingling I knew almost everyone there...I danced my butt off all night with his friends, with his brother and his sister. I had a blast and never brought up my feelings about anything till the end of the night when were fighting by my car. When i asked him to take a shot with me and he said no i didnt make a big deal about it to him i simply told him if he changed his mind to let me know...yes i walked away sad but i didnt show him my sadness at all....i played it off like it was no big deal. I am a girl he spends 4 to 5 days a week with. I sleep over his house 4 to 5 days a week and youre telling me that he had no obligation to introduce me to this unknown girl that is following him around everywhere at the end of the night.....i maybe wrong but i dont think i am being selfish at all.........its called common curdosy!!!!!!!!! We even made plans to spend his actual birthday together.....I am the girl in his life that he spends special occasions with and you think that he has no obligation to introduce me.....lol!

i might be wrong in this but your way of thinking has got me stumped....thanks for the input....been great! glad to not be involved with you if thats how you treat your significant others.

Oh okay. I hear you though I did read the first post; everything can be fine and then we have fights that s how it works. So no fight for 2 months has no bearing on this party problem.

Sorry for your distress. I would probably lay low. I can understand you're wanting him to make the first move though Pisces can really float on for a long time with this sort of thing... You might also be hitting on a difference in style here. I dated an Aqua Pisces for 8 years. And he always like to socialize with other people when we were at parties together. And I mean socialize with other people especially if he was hosting. That can be very hurtful if you all are not on the same page. Do you feel like he was trying to get rid of you? I still think he was irriated about the 3 hours of lateness and pretending he was not. Maybe I am wrong. 3 hours is just a huge amoutn of time..maybe he thought you were gfoing to be an horu or so late (I know I am beating a dea dhorse so I'll get off it now...LOL)

And as I said before, none of it condones alot of the trifling behavior. But also try to keep it in context. Feelings were hurt but no one went in the bedroom or cloak room and had sex with their ex or their old girlfriend. It could and should be discussed and learned from....

Okay well everyone is basiclaly making my very first point. I suggested gingerly think he was annoyed well at the beginning and (pretnending otherwise) and things began to unravel. I think most people feel special about their birthdays and the laterness ratcheted him up but the party was not a place for him to make a scene. And Pisces I know and Love do not go awol direct on people usually at least not in ap ublic venuet...That stuff has to be hashed and soemtimes rehashed in pivate intimate down time...

Also I think it is really criitcal to read pisces a bit more figuratively not so literally. I have yet to find one that is that literal...to be honest most people are not especially when there are feelings ionvolved..

Sweet-P
The party was over and everyone was gone, he and i were the only two left standing by my car...oh and my girlfriends brother but he was off somewhere else. I didnt bring up how i felt until saturday morning when we broke up....the only thing we faught about that night was the fact that he walked her to her car and didnt even tell me a word just left me standing in the street with my girlfriends brother and asked him to make sure i got to my car safe...he didnt explain that he would be right back that he just wanted to make sure she got to her car safe or anything he just simply walked away.....i would have understood if he would have said babe this is my receptionist and its crazy our here so let me walk her i will be right back...that would have been cool!

thanks again for your input........

I told him i was going to be late if i went with my girlfriend....if he didnt want me to arrive late dont you think he would have phoned me like he said he was....i wanted to go with him, i would have rather shown up by his side but i left that up to him to decide...it was his birthday and it should be up to him on who he wants to arrive with. He didnt phone me so i assumed he didnt really care much about arriving with me. He was the one that said he would call me later and we would figure it out. I didnt call him because i didnt want to apply pressure to him if he wanted me to go with him he would have called. WE ALL KNOW PISCES DONT LIKE TO BE PRESSURED!!!! So i left it up to him....

Solitas,

I did say please...I said but babe its your birthday and i want to take a shot with you.....and i reached over and hugged him. He said no babe i am already drunk and i dont want to be falling all over the place....i said ok well let me know if you change your mind. I went to kiss him and he gave me the smallest peck....i asked him for a better one and he laughed and looked around as if he was shy to do it around people so i just laughed and ran back to the dance floor with the my girlfriend and her bro.

"However, I have to say you sound really self-absorbed."

sorry i just think man or women if you care about someone you show it.....i always make him feel special........always!!!!

He was yelling at me accross the table at dinner to have a conversation with me, he obviously wanted my attention at that time....why not just ask me to sit next to him. I didnt walk over to sit with him because i didnt want to assume he wanted to be next to me....i wanted to show him that i can be fine alone and that i could mingle and have a good time without being up his butt all the time.......

I told him i was going to be late if i went with my girlfriend....if he didnt want me to arrive late dont you think he would have phoned me like he said he was....i wanted to go with him, i would have rather shown up by his side but i left that up to him to decide...it was his birthday and it should be up to him on who he wants to arrive with. He didnt phone me so i assumed he didnt really care much about arriving with me. He was the one that said he would call me later and we would figure it out. I didnt call him because i didnt want to apply pressure to him if he wanted me to go with him he would have called. WE ALL KNOW PISCES DONT LIKE TO BE PRESSURED!!!! So i left it up to him....



This is true. But I think this is a poor match. I mean when I read your comments you sound like someone always walking on eggshells with this guy. Why are you doing that?Like the whole isn't it great we have not had a fight in 2 months. People fight. Get it a rest.

But you're scared out of your wits with this. I think you want him, and I think he's possibly overwhelmed by uyour intensity. And either conflicted or not as into it. I know you continue to repeat I said I would be late but let's be honest you were alot later than he expected WHICH IS WHY you said you were shocked he didn't ask if you were okay....that he did not ask what happened. Clearly you were VERY LATE. And yes, I think it's immature to ignore someone rather than be straightforward, but the truth is This was his birthday, and ultimately it was about him, not you. And lwet's not forget that whoever threw that party for him wants some love and gratification too...

I think you are in fact too painfully aware of making what you view as personal concessions to him and his Piscean personality ( What I hear is "I am being so good--so careful--I am not pressuring him...I am not reacting to him not calling back even though I was pissed and hurt", right?) but indeed you are hurt or irritated by his behaviors. And that is your perogative. What is not your right is to pretend that you don't care and then get really annoyed or play the little sad person. You care about all of this stuff. and frankly I doubt that he does or as much. And that is why I believe the match may be mediocre if not poor. Be true to who you are. He's not going to change.

Solitas,

You are probably right. But if he was no longer interested then why try to spend every waking moment with me and ask me in his cute little voice to come over and have sleep overs....why have a conversation with my girlfriend the day before and tell her how pleased he is in the relationship and that things have been so good.

this is what i think.....i think he lacks communication skills and cant handle it when things get rocky...he wants things to be picture perfect at all times. We have had our ups and downs in the past (beginining) and every time we fight i have to be the one to apologize even when i am not at fault...and i do just to get over the fighting, he is known to never take responsiblity for anything. Every time things have been bad i am the one mending them. If it werent for me he would have let things go a long time ago due to pride. i always say sorry and this time i didnt...this is why its now been two weeks since we have spoken and we will probably never speak again because i refuse to call him...he asked me not to so i wont

he lacks communication and although i miss the heck out of him i feel we are BOTH better off

Blueskies,

YOU ARE SO RIGHT! BAD MATCH! HONESTLY THIS ENTIRE RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN ME WALKING ON EGG SHELLS, TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE HIM HAPPY AND IN ALL OF THIS I AM MAKING MYSELF SAD. I HAVE TRIED TO LEAVE BEFORE BUT HE NEVER SEEMS TO LET ME STRAY TOO FAR, IN THE PAST HE ALWAYS GETS ME BACK BY SENDING ME CUTE TEXT MESSAGES LIKE ---DO YOU MISS ME YET 😢 ----- THE BREAK UP WAS FOR THE BEST I GUESS...I REALLY TRIED TO MAKE HIM HAPPY ALWAYS GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTED AND PUTTING MY WANTS ASIDE BUT WHEN ITS NOT MENT TO BE IT JUST NOT MENT.

THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR INPUT I APPRECIATE IT....

You're doing the right thing. You deserve to feel comfortable and loved in your skin and in the company of a loved one. Walking on eggshells is not a satisfying experience, nor is playing the martyr. It will eventually get on your nerves and leave you qite bitter. He is who is. Don't be persuaded by his cuteness; you've gotta reach for a different experience.

lol i guess thats just a pisces for ya. we are very cold when annoyed.

1-1 Aries/Aries
The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces in you a truly explosive personality; dynamic, hard hitting, powerful, and magnetic. Every idea put forth in the reading of your Sun sign is intensified by the Aries Moon. Independence and self-confidence may be so intensified that they become a stumbling block in personal relationships, if they are not somewhat tamed. You are an individualist first, last, and always. You are extremely impatient with people, sometimes to the extent of being intolerant. People may view you as hardboiled because of a tendency for you to be too matter-of-fact. You do express yourself readily and forcefully, with considerable dramatic effect. It's painfully difficult for you to listen to and understand the woes of others. Yet you can be demanding of the attention of those around you on those rare occasions when you disclose your personal problems. You are not an intellectual person, and you may not have even taken the time to get a good education. In fact, well-educated and intellectually pretentious folks are among those you find the most boring and uninteresting. You are not impressed with abstract thoughts and ideas, only actions and accomplishments. This is not to say you don't use your mind. Your mind is always active: reading, talking, discussing. When it comes to getting things done and done rapidly, your talents can fill the bill. This position provides exceptional leadership traits, but a need to develop qualities of tact and consideration for the feeling of others can impede progress.

lv24, my DIL has this same placement. Normally, I can only handle her in very small doses .. maybe 3 to 4 hours at a time, because she demands full attention at all times to be placed on her by my son. If he talks to me, she gets pissed-off. It's all about her and how she feels, with no regard to others ..

"It's painfully difficult for you to listen to and understand the woes of others. Yet you can be demanding of the attention of those around you on those rare occasions when you disclose your personal problems."

This part of her stands out louder than any other part .. people see this for miles around because she makes dramatic splashes to let it be known that she has been ignored. Yet, she has no clue of it .. when my son tries to talk to her about it, she swears that she didn't make a scene, or try to draw attention away from another, for him to place it "exclusively" on her. She, too .. will show up late for events, the majority of the time. At first, when they first hooked up, I wondered why this is. Aries are normally punctual .. then it dawned on me when I stopped to pay attention. She ALWAYS enter with a dramatic splash .. so, her tardiness is intentional .. it draws all attention towards her.

What you've described is how this progressed from your perspective, but, it's possible that you are like my DIL .. she has no self-awareness that she is an attention monger, so, it's possible that when you showed up 3 hours late, your Piscean man decided enough, was enough, already.

You know .. people will view things according to what sounds logical and what does not. If it doesn't make sense, it's probably not true.

If indeed, you carried yourself as you described (perfectly innocent, understanding and adaptable) .. a man to whom loves you WOULDN'T have this kind of reaction.

I find it quite curious that months have gone by with no arguements and everything progressing blissfully .. until HIS day of honour arrives. That would put HIM in the spotlight, wouldn't it?

It just doesn't make sense ..

"why not just ask me to sit next to him. I didnt walk over to sit with him because i didnt want to assume he wanted to be next to me....i wanted to show him that i can be fine alone and that i could mingle and have a good time without being up his butt all the time......."


If this is true, then why become upset when he made sure that the friend made sure you got home ok? You said you were doing shots with other people .. maybe you were fucked up, and just don't recall how you were behaving.

Seriously .. you make yourself out to be completely innocent in this scenerio and this man just out-of-nowhere .. freaked on you. Can you not see how unreasonable this sounds?

You didnt' want to take a seat next to him - eventhough, he apparantly left one open for you .. did it cross your mind that the reason why the seat was open was for you? Perhaps, but, you didn't take it and now make the claim that it was because you were being thoughtful .. yet, this whole post revolves around him not paying enough attention to you .. if you are purposely sitting AWAY from him, then how is that his fault if a chair was avaible. Perhaps, this is because IF you sat on the other side of the room, so he would HAVE to yell to get your attention .. you would get all the attention. I'm thinking you purposely sat away from him for this purpose .. there was no other reason to do so.

If you sleep together 4 nights a week and have such a close relationship .. why on earth would he HAVE to invite you to sit next to him? Isn't that a given? Isn't that why he left a seat open?

Your just ticked off because you weren't getting the attention you wanted.

High maintenance.

There's a whole forest here .. not just a tree.

"He would phone me and ask to see me I would rarely phone him"

Why is this?
Why is it you rarely phoned him?
Is it about you getting attention, but, not giving it back?
Can you not see who self-absorbed that makes you sound?
Does he not deserve the same consideration back?

"It's painfully difficult for you to listen to and understand the woes of others. Yet you can be demanding of the attention of those around you .."

It sounds to me as though he finally realized this wasn't a partnership.

P-Angel

This by far has to be the best response.....love it and find it hilarious!!!!
Don't know, but that is exactly how it happened and yes we went 2 months with no arguments and everything was great!!! It wasn't always like that in the very beginning (8 months ago) it was tough I never dated anyone quite like him so it was tough to adjust to but I did. As far a being punctual, I am always on time, hate being late! Actually I wasn't late I arrived exactly on time. I arrived when he expected me to arrive, if not arriving with him. He knew that I would be there about 10:30pm if I was going to arrive with my girlfriend so technically I was right on time....I am not sure if I mentioned it before but he didn't arrive to his own party till about 10:15pm when he was supposed to arrive at 7:30pm so if I would have been there at 7:30pm I would have been there all alone.

"You are not an intellectual person, and you may not have even taken the time to get a good education. In fact, well-educated and intellectually pretentious folks are among those you find the most boring and uninteresting. You are not impressed with abstract thoughts and ideas, only actions and accomplishments.?

THIS IS SO HILLARIOUS TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Individuals that have nothing to bring to the table bore me. I am easily bored with someone that can't hold a conversation. I love it when someone can teach me something new?it's a turn on for me. As far as be being educated I don't even care to take the time to justify myself for I think education is irrelevant to this situation...lol!

ENOUGH ABOUT THAT....

STARFISH,

"He's immature and possibly had someone else there at the party that he was interested in as well"

I AGREE I BELIEVE YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON...HE PROBABLY DID HAVE SOMEONE ELSE HE WAS INTERESTED OR MAYBE HE IS JUST IMMATURE AND DOESNT KNOW HOW TO TREAT A WOMAN. ACTUALLY WHEN WE GOT INTO OUR ARGUMENT THE FOLLOWING DAY I TOLD HIM THAT BY NOW HE SHOULD KNOW HOW TO TREAT A WOMAN(32YRS OLD)YOU WOULD THINKG THAT HE WOULD HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF IT AND HE RESPONDED WITH MAYBE I AM JUST NOT READY TO TEND TO SOMEONE ELSE. BOTTOM LINE HE'S NOT READY TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP. HE LIKES THE COMPANIONSHIP OF A WOMAN BUT HE DOESNT OR I SHOULD SAY IS NOT READY TO DEAL WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COMES ALONG WITH A RELATIONSHIP. ACTUALLY BECAUSE I FELT OUT OF PLACE AT THE PARTY I WAS GOING TO DISMISS MYSELF AT ABOUT 1AM,HE DIDNT LIKE THE THOUGHT OF THAT AND ASKED ME TO STAY.

OH WELL IT IS WHAT IT IS....TWO WEEKS HAVE GONE BY AND I SEEM TO BE DOING OK WITHOUT HIM. EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTS.

THANKS STARFISH I REALLY THINK YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON.........

"If this is true, then why become upset when he made sure that the friend made sure you got home ok? You said you were doing shots with other people .. maybe you were ed up, and just don't recall how you were behaving."

FIRST OF ALL IF YOU READ MY POST CORRECTLY I SAID HE WAS TAKING SHOTS WITH OTHER PEOPLE NOT ME...I DONT DRINK THAT MUCH....I ONLY CONSIDERED TAKING A SHOT BECAUSE IT WAS HIS BIRTHDAY AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE CUTE.


"Why is this?
Why is it you rarely phoned him?
Is it about you getting attention, but, not giving it back?
Can you not see who self-absorbed that makes you sound?
Does he not deserve the same consideration back?"

NO I DONT PHONE HIM BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO PUSH THIS PISCES IN THE CORNER WHENEVER I SHOW ATTACHMENT SO I LET HIM COME TO ME AND THATS WHY WE HAVE BEEN GETTING ALONG SO WELL FOR THE PAST TWO MONTHS. I USED TO CALL HIM AND ASK HIM OUT AND ASK HIM TO ATTEND EVENTS WITH ME HE WOULD FEEL PRESSURED AND DISTANCE HIMSELF. I NOTICED THAT IF I GIVE HIM HIS SPACE AND LET HIM MOVE AT HIS OWN PACE HE IS MORE LIKELY TO COME TO ME ON HIS OWN....THIS IS HOW HE WORKS. HE LIKES TO BE THE INITIATOR...WHEN I TAKE THE BALL IT SCARES HIM AWAY. I DONT LIKE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN US SO I LEARNED HOW TO KEEP HIM CLOSE BY GIVING HIM THE CONTROL WHEN IT COMES TO PHONE CALLS ETC.

Why are you yelling at Starfish?

Curious that the past couple months everything was going so wonderfully, that he would even tell your girlfriend and you would even brag about it .. now, SUDDENLY .. he's immature and not ready for a relationship.

My DIL also thinks it's funny .. that is a reaction to hurt feelings, for what she doesn't comprehend because she only comprehends herself is that every other person knows that normally (a Ram with any other moon placement) is actually quite concerned with how they are percieved and would rather die than take a position of arrogance.

Well, good luck finding someone who doesn't mind being second fiddle to the crown.

P-ANGEL,

I WAS NOT YELLING AT STARFISH I WAS THANKING HER.......

OMG!!!!! YOU GET ON MY CASE AND YOUR NOT EVEN READING THE POSTS RIGHT....LOL!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU P-ANGEL BUT WHENEVER MY SIGNIFICANT OTHER IS AROUND ITS KNOWN TO THE WORLD. I PUT MY LOVED ONES ON A PEDESTAL AND ALTHOUGH I DIDNT EXPECT HIM TO DO THE SAME FOR ME THAT NIGHT BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT I EXPECTED HIM TO BE CONSIDERATE TO THE ONE HE CLAIMS. IN THE PAST HE HAS ACKNOWLEGED HOW I TREAT HIM AROUND OTHERS AND FINDS IT TO BE GREAT...HE SAYS THAT I DONT EVER MAKE HIM FEEL OUT OF PLACE SO WHY THE HECK SHOULD I NOT EXPECT THE SAME?

Thanks MLdy....

P-Angel I asked for some input but you are acting like I am the worst person in the world....lol! Geeze! I feel like you just broke up with me! Dang!

On the Contrary .. I'm reading .. I was referring to the Caps .. that indicates yelling in cyber. By responding to her in Caps .. that says you're yelling.

I hear you, Starfish and I'm aware of Piscean males. In different circumstances, I would tend to agree that this would indicate an immature man .. however, these aren't ordinary circumstances.

The relationship was so perfect for both of them, that he would boast about it to her friends.

If this man was indeed this immature and cruel towards his woman's feelings, would she honestly be spending 4 or 5 nights a week in his bed?

This situation is suspect and that's my point .. to paint a picture of one person being completely at fault, while the other is a victim doesn't sound reasonable. It is to be believed that the woman did absolutely NOTHING wrong, while the man was a complete fuck up .. if this is the case, why would she be sleeping with him?

In the intent of trying to make him look bad, and her doing nothing wrong .. what has been assessed is her own description of NO self-worth .. because a man can only be an asshole to you if you are there letting him be an asshole to you.

I don't believe this is the case .. he doesn't sound like an asshole at all. She on the other hand, sounds high maintenance. If the excuse as to why the woman didn't sit next to the man during their meal is because she didn't want to be up his butt .. why then suddenly would she want to be up the butt with walking to the car?

Same principal, isn't it?
He made sure someone was taking care of her .. an asshole, who was immature, not caring, and not ready for a relationship wouldn't have taken that extra step to ensure her safety to her car.

Nothing is one-sided .. had this post been equal, instead of one-sided, to make her look like an innocent and him being exclusively in the wrong .. I would have likely crossed right over it and not responded.

There is right and there is wrong .. there is no way on this God's green earth that I will be so gulliable as to believe that a woman would brag about and honour a man who was so wonderful .. that she would stay with him for all that time, if in reality, he was a immature loser who didn't know how to love her.

This is just anger and jealousy coming out because there was an unknown woman standing near him .. so, in this anger, his reputation and dignity will be smeared, he will be called names that are untrue .. it's slanderous of his character that by his actions previous to this "mystery woman" he was loving and supportive.

Don't be fooled .. this is about jealousy of another woman and not the man at all because if he was indeed like described in this post .. she wouldn't be with him.

Tolerance and a loving attitude all night, for his benefit .. that is .. until, this mystery woman was walked to her car ..

Very suspect .. now suddenly, he's an asshole.

Others may be blind .. I, however am not.

This about jealous anger and nothing more.

Yet, his character would be slandered for it. In my opinion .. you don't deserve him.

Its funny because my girlfriend was by my side all night and she kept insisting that we leave, she said she felt out of place for me...she is also a pisces by the way. She is actually the one the kept the relationship going for so long with her guidance of how the pisces view and react to things...she kept me sane by explaining his actions all the time.

I wasnt jealous over the other girl infact she didnt intimidate me at all!!!! What got under my skin was that he didnt introduce me to her, then walked her to her car while leaving me in the street with another....without hugging me or saying good bye....the only words were make sure she gets to her car ok. If you are involved with someone you can at least give them that respect, give me a break!!!!!!!! That was the final straw for me a person can only take so much from a person and I dealt with his inconsiderate actions all night. He was the selfish one that night...I would have never done that to him and if I had his sensitive pisces nature would have given me a good one...all he had to do was say babe I am going to walk her to her car I will be right back. Is that so hard? Even if he didnt want to meet me by my car which he obviously did because earlier that evening he didnt want me to go home because he wanted to go home together, if he would have just said its rough out here tonight I am going to walk my receptionist to her car she is here by herself are you ok with michelles brother walking you to your car....i would have said sure babe given him a hug and a kiss goodbye....that easy!

1st .. "No big deal its his special day!"
2nd .. "Oh well though no big deal!"
3rd .. "Whatever he probably just figured I wanted to sit with my girlfriend. Right?"
4th .. " .. i am trying my hardest to be understanding"
5th .. "I am sure he is so drunk he doesnt even realize"

No big deal .. you're an understanding person .. he was probably just drunk .. no problems .. you will be supportive and tolerant .. that is, until you get jealous, then suddenly you were pissed .. you stated so yourself, everything was fine until YOU got pissed because you suspected another woman was taking his attention away, "over to my car and we begin to fight...i was pissed he said it was no big deal she is his receptionist who showed up alone we were in a pretty ghetto area and he felt that he should make sure she made it safe to her car.....what about me"

"What about me?"
What about you? You made it perfectly clear that none of this was any big deal. Why is it now?

6th .. "some reason he was mad at me maybe he felt my tension who knows but he walks us out to our cars...its me my girlfriends brother the unknown girl and my guy as we are walking to our cars he asked me where i parked asked her where she parked i was on the left she was on the right side....he walks her to her car and asked my girlfriends brother to make sure i get to mine safe..........HELLO!

once he gets back to from walking her he comes over to my car and we begin to fight...i was pissed he said it was no big deal she is his receptionist who showed up alone we were in a pretty ghetto area and he felt that he should make sure she made it safe to her car.....what about me"

What about you? He did the gentlemen thing and walked an unescorted woman to her car, once she was inside her car, he came straight over to you .. would an immature person even care that this unescorted woman in a ghetto neighborhood be concerned for her safety? You were pissed and you said so .. you were pissed because he was a gentlemen and walked a woman to her car.

Did he leave with her?
No
He came to you .. what more do you fucking want?

He is just inconsiderate! Example on Valentines day he called me to say happy valentines at about 7am and told me to have a great day. He made no plans with me at that point. Then at about 6pm he called me and asked me to be his Valentines. If he was as into me as he claimed to be then why not ask me in the morning, why have me walking on egg shells all day wondering if he is going to spend valentines with me. That sucks! I didnt want to ask him to be my valentine because I wanted it to come from him. I wanted to see how much I meant to him. He already knows how much he means to me it obvious....

He is great dont get me wrong, I wouldnt want to be with him if he wasnt. I know it sounds like i am bashing him but he has such other great qualities. Everyone has flaws. I just think he lacks communication skills and he doesnt put much thought into anyone else but himself (inconsiderate).

We are both are better off...I hope finds what he is looking for.

I'm not gonna be fooled by a one-sided account that makes no sense .. this is about your immaturity of not being able to handle him walking a woman to her car .. and I'm sure he wasn't either .. that's why he's gone.

He rings me .. I rarely phone him

"all day wondering if he is going to spend valentines with me. I didnt want to ask him to be my valentine because I wanted it to come from him."

"I wanted to see how much I meant to him. He already knows how much he means to me it obvious...."


It's all about you, isn't it?
See how much he cares, let him ring me, let him show me how much i mean to him.

Let him ask you for a valentine because you wanted it to come from him, because you wanted to know how much you meant to him ..


Others may not see that you are self-absorbed, only concerned about your own feelings, but, I am not .. it's written all over the place in here.

He walked her to her car .. what about ME?
He came to you .. what about you?

Even when you try to come back and say how wonderful he really is .. you put in here how you wanted him to come to you, so he can show you how he feels ..

.. you rarely phoned him, didn't ya? He called you on the phone all the time, didn't he?

Oh, well .. my DIL doesn't see it either .. she refuses to believe that she isn't a princess.

I wanted him to show some consideration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only reason why we argued by my car was because i waited for him. He didnt ask me to wait. He didnt come to me after on his own. He didnt even say goodbye to me. The only reason he came to me was because I waited to confront him about everything. It was the final straw for me. I appreciate that he was concerned about her safety it shows good character but he could have done it a better way. Maybe you tolerate rude behavior but I dont. I would never leave room for error when it comes to someone I care about. Thats me.

P-Angel

Tell me if you were dating a guy for 8 months with ups and downs then finally you guys are on the same page for two months. He invites you to his bday party and you guys are off mingling and barely spending much time together. You try several times to hang out with him by asking him to dance, asking him to take a shot with you and nothing seems to get his attention. Then the night comes to an end and he walks off with another woman without any explanation and has someone else escort you to your car....you wouldnt be the least bit hurt? Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I just don't do selfish people .. if someone is being selfishly one-sided, I will tell you so ..

Don't want me to tell you?
Don't post it publicly.

I dont phone him much because in the past it pushed him away. He doesnt like the pressure of me calling him a lot but its ok when he calls me twice or three times a day. Why am I going to do something that i know is going to push the one i care about away...

"he says babe"


For an uncaring man, he sure does say "babe" a lot.

"Why am I going to do something that i know is going to push the one i care about away..."


That's my question?
Why make a big deal out of nothing with walking an unescorted woman to the car, if everything else he did all night, was no big deal?

That certainly pushed him away, didn't it?
Why would you do that?

I remember talking to you before about this very thing .. and I told you then, that it was your jealous anger that was the problem .. so, answer your own question:

"Why am I going to do something that i know is going to push the one i care about away..."

"Ivy: Question did he ever hug you or kiss you through out the evening, did he ever show you some attention to let you know that you are my date sweetheart tonight the one that I am sharing my day with and my evening with. Did he do anything to set you aside from the rest of the women at the party? If he did then maybe your tripping..If he did not then that is a sign in itself. I know that if I am sleeping with a man 4,5 nights a week and he has a bday party and I am suppose to be his girl and his date for the party and he acts, treats me like a guest or like he would any other woman, then I would be a little upset and I am not Aries person clingy or any of that.."

-----We hugged when I first arrived but he hugged all of us. I tried to kiss him a few times but he would just give me small pecks and when I would ask for more he would give me this face as if he was embarrassed, so i just stopped asking. Another thing I noticed that threw me off was that he always calls me babe and that night he called me by my name the entire night. It felt weird because I am not used to hearing my name come out of his mouth. I am used to baby this baby that...I felt like he was embarrassed for anyone to know he was envolved with me. All his close friends knew me so I dont know. Now that I think about it he is so loving when its the two of us and when we are in public he is so distant. He seems to be afraid of commitment. Thats why a couple of his past relationships ended. Commitment issues and they have become to clingy. Thats why i dont push him for anything i dont want to be clingy. I have also noticed that every time he drinks we fight.....pattern. Now that i think about it in the last two months we havent been to any social events so there hasnt been any drinking envolved in awhile.

I say babe a lot. Not him. He called me by name the entire night. You are not reading right....again! He might have said it a few times when we were alone but I dont thinks so I remember him calling me by my name most of the time especially when we were in crowds.

You are not getting it. I dont care that he escorted a woman to his car, its the way he went about it.

I wanted him to show some consideration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only reason why we argued by my car was because i waited for him. He didnt ask me to wait. He didnt come to me after on his own. He didnt even say goodbye to me. The only reason he came to me was because I waited to confront him about everything. It was the final straw for me. I appreciate that he was concerned about her safety it shows good character but he could have done it a better way. Maybe you tolerate rude behavior but I dont. I would never leave room for error when it comes to someone I care about. Thats me.

P-Angel

Tell me if you were dating a guy for 8 months with ups and downs then finally you guys are on the same page for two months. He invites you to his bday party and you guys are off mingling and barely spending much time together. You try several times to hang out with him by asking him to dance, asking him to take a shot with you and nothing seems to get his attention. Then the night comes to an end and he walks off with another woman without any explanation and has someone else escort you to your car....you wouldnt be the least bit hurt? Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I just dont see how trying to be there for him on his birthday is selfish. If my date was trying to show me love on my birthday I would embrace it as much as I could. He probably just doenst feel for me the way I feel for him. That doesnt make him a bad person, I am just not the one for him.

Thanks again for all your input. Good or bad it help me see the big picture. 🙂

Hv a fantastic day!

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"He is just inconsiderate! Example on Valentines day he called me to say happy valentines at about 7am and told me to have a great day. He made no plans with me at that point. Then at about 6pm he called me and asked me to be his Valentines. If he was as into me as he claimed to be then why not ask me in the morning, why have me walking on egg shells all day wondering if he is going to spend valentines with me"


He calls at six o'clock in the evening to ask you to be his Valintine and that wasn't good enough because it wasn't earlier in the day?

Do you have any idea how self-absorbed you sound?
He could have ignore you completely on Valintines Day.

You have accounted in here how much he ignored and disregarded you at the party, treated you like shit .. yet, if anybody can read between the lines, they will comprehend that you are high maintenance when it comes to attention and it's likely that no amount would be good enough for you.

"He is just inconsiderate! Example on Valentines day he called me to say happy valentines at about 7am and told me to have a great day .. at about 6pm he called me and asked me to be his Valentines. If he was as into me as he claimed to be then why not ask me in the morning"

He is inconsiderate because he asked you at 6pm, instead of 7am?
Oh, wait .. he did call at 7am to wish you happy day, though, didn't he?

He plays games thats it. He later told me that the reason he waited till 6pm was to see if i would make plans with someone else. Thats immature... Thats someone who plays games.

Its obvious that you just want to be against everything I say and thats fine...its kinda funny! It also helps me understand the Pisces more by you doing this. This is exactly how he acts. Never sees things from all sides, always feels he is right about everything. Especially when the finger is being pointed at him. I always have to be the one giving in even when I feel I have done nothing wrong and thats ok giving in is not a problem for me because you have to give and take in a relationship. Its also funny that in my previous post when i was talking about how great he was and how I think I finally got it down YOU were the one posting happy messages to me and congrats to me for meeting my Pisces. Now I have something negative to say and all you do is bash me. Its great! The Pisces way of thinking is GREAT!

"Tell me if you were dating a guy for 8 months with ups and downs then finally you guys are on the same page for two months. He invites you to his bday party and you guys are off mingling and barely spending much time together. You try several times to hang out with him by asking him to dance, asking him to take a shot with you and nothing seems to get his attention. Then the night comes to an end and he walks off with another woman without any explanation and has someone else escort you to your car....you wouldnt be the least bit hurt? Yeah right!!!!!!!!!!"


First of all, if he was enjoying himself with his mates and having a wonderful birthday gathering .. I wouldn't even go to him once and try to hang out, much less several times and then walk away sad .. that would make me needy.

This difference between me and you is that I am confident in who I am and don't need continued re-inforcement that I'm loved .. where as you do because of lack of confidence. You thought he was going to go off with another woman because you don't have enough confidence in yourself to keep your man. That is WHY people are jealous.

"you wouldnt be the least bit hurt?"

Not in the least .. however, I don't need constant attention.


You have no clue about the Pisces .. you can say that this helps you, but, it just bounces off of you .. for, if you had any desire to understand the Fish you would have already .. and if you had any knowledge about how we work internally, you'd already know that we absolutely don't do selfish people .. which you should know because he left you for it.