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Q for those Wishy-Washy Fish
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Is there something wrong with you, that you would ask a question of a person to whom you know is wishy-washy .. and actually expect a valuable answer?
Then again, rather than being forward and asking him out I could ask him if we are going to get together anytime soon OR simply if he is going to ask me out. Does that make me more or less pushy? I know Pisces don't like to have their hand forced!
Oh, I know, he asked about whether I can cook and he's made reference to me cooking for him. I could just ask when he wants me to make that dinner for him.... (although we've only been out once together, so that might be rushing things a bit).
Hmmm... what should I do oh great (wishy-washy) fishes?
Oh, I know, he asked about whether I can cook and he's made reference to me cooking for him. I could just ask when he wants me to make that dinner for him.... (although we've only been out once together, so that might be rushing things a bit).
Hmmm... what should I do oh great (wishy-washy) fishes?
Lay down is what you should do .... you are almost there, currently you are bent over, but, ass fucking is getting old ... now you need to lay all the way down at his feet.
I suppose I can't get a straight answer out of you all, huh? I don't want to make him run...
ianthefish, Really?? I like to be the pursuer... especially in the bedroom! How well do fishes take to those waters?
btw, thanks for your answer and not giving me a line of crap!
If we Pisces are so wishy-washy, why would you want to date one anyway?
Scorps and Aries aren't wishy-washy. Try them.
Seriously - he's NOT going to like finding out you think this way about Pisces.
Especially ones you simply do not even know.
Pisces don't like prejudice or judgmental attitudes, especially when you can't possibly KNOW.
Why are you making this so complicated, lildol?
But hey, Ian is absolutely Pisces, and speaks truth.
Pisces like to be pursued, though not run down in the street with a steam-roller!
And the bedroom advice - pure gold!
Rock on, don't wear socks, he'll knock them off anyway!
You asked him out, he accepted, you had a good time.
He's not gotten around to asking you out again, so ask him yourself.
Really.
Who's being wishy-washy now? 😛
Scorps and Aries aren't wishy-washy. Try them.
Seriously - he's NOT going to like finding out you think this way about Pisces.
Especially ones you simply do not even know.
Pisces don't like prejudice or judgmental attitudes, especially when you can't possibly KNOW.
Why are you making this so complicated, lildol?
But hey, Ian is absolutely Pisces, and speaks truth.
Pisces like to be pursued, though not run down in the street with a steam-roller!
And the bedroom advice - pure gold!
Rock on, don't wear socks, he'll knock them off anyway!
You asked him out, he accepted, you had a good time.
He's not gotten around to asking you out again, so ask him yourself.
Really.
Who's being wishy-washy now? 😛
Posted by ianthefishPosted by lildol
ianthefish, Really?? I like to be the pursuer... especially in the bedroom! How well do fishes take to those waters?
in the bedroom? anything goes.. so whatever floats your boat on our seas..
you havent even went out on a date with him yet and your worried about pursuing in the bedroom..
i like your style ..click to expand
Oh, but I have... he joined me and my girlfriends for drinks last weekend.
oh hell, just go for it.
viewing from my capricorn sister's relationship with her pisces husband, she has been the one who pursues him more than he does. but i think thats the way he likes it. their relationship just flowed from the beginning and i'm very glad that they have met. now we are more in-tuned with each other bc she understands and accepts our fickle ways.
she's usually very assertive, pushy and always worried about something. she used to be so impatient. she's still a bit high strung but my advice to her is almost always "take a breather, chill out." and she takes the advice rather well.
so chill out! it'll be fine!
she's usually very assertive, pushy and always worried about something. she used to be so impatient. she's still a bit high strung but my advice to her is almost always "take a breather, chill out." and she takes the advice rather well.
so chill out! it'll be fine!
I think it depends on the male fish in question. The one I know is all about a man being a man and a woman being a woman. He likes to pursue staying in accordance with the laws of nature.
Posted by Loyalist Rebel
lol@P-Angel
That was harsh.
You're just jealous because you want all the ass fucking for yourself.
SUCCESS! I'm not sure he knows how to take my assertiveness... but, I did warn him that when I want something in life I go all out. And, he didn't say 'no' when I asked to come over to his place last night! I need to slow myself down though, I'm cautious in the beginning, but I do tend to play for keeps. Once I'm comfortable I go in fast and hard - no messing around for this Cap!
Posted by ianthefish
heres a paragraph from my profile describing sun in pisces..
But make no mistake about it, Pisces can be extraordinarily successful when given the chance to express themselves.
And he is successful... upstream swimming I suppose one would call it. He has multiple rental properties and owns his own business which happens to be his second (he relocated and expanded his initial one).
I'm very intrigued and really want to figure him out.
That's my nature... I'm always up for a challenge!
Nothing wrong with a challenge... hell Im a Leo.. ALWAYS up for the challenge. Thing is Pisces way is different than any other. Trust me I KNOW!!! LOL! My last bf was a Pisces and I have NEVER experienced anything like him. We just werent a good match though. Cap may work with a Pisces though. My best friend is a Cappy woman dating a Pisces man and they are getting along quite well for now!
I must say, I do like his attentiveness... I don't think I've ever had a man just kiss on me out of the blue for no reason (and not for sexual purposes). I'm usually feeling like I don't get enough attention which results in me trying to seek it out and seeming needy, which I am not! I just like to have someone to show me they care... ok, so I do need constant reassurance - just a hug or a peck for no reason is all it takes though.
Cap women with Pisces men seem to work out MUCH better than the other way around. I'm figuring it must be the success of those that overshadow the high failure rate of Pisces women with Cap men, and that's where they get the idea that Pisces and Capricorn are a good match LOL
P.S. On the figuring out a Pisces... LeoLady is right - that's a Herculean task. We're not normal, so throw away everything you *think* you know about them and start TABULA RASA... otherwise you might lose what's left of your sanity trying to understand what makes them tick. We're naturally secretive and mysterious, our depths know no bounds. You will indeed spend the rest of your life trying to figure him out, and he WILL repeatedly throw you for a loop. But here's the best part: If you like a challenge, you'll never get bored.
P.S. On the figuring out a Pisces... LeoLady is right - that's a Herculean task. We're not normal, so throw away everything you *think* you know about them and start TABULA RASA... otherwise you might lose what's left of your sanity trying to understand what makes them tick. We're naturally secretive and mysterious, our depths know no bounds. You will indeed spend the rest of your life trying to figure him out, and he WILL repeatedly throw you for a loop. But here's the best part: If you like a challenge, you'll never get bored.
I find that shocking LOL
But yeah, I guess the head-strong, practical, grounded Cap should be the man... because with gender roles in society, he'd be more willing to tolerate the whims and moods (the wishy-washy LOL) of the sensitive, emotional, dreamy Pisces girl. Pisces men are often thought to be wimpy and "girly" and unmanly. Usually by people who don't know or get Pisces nature and do not realize the strength below the surface 😉
But yeah, I guess the head-strong, practical, grounded Cap should be the man... because with gender roles in society, he'd be more willing to tolerate the whims and moods (the wishy-washy LOL) of the sensitive, emotional, dreamy Pisces girl. Pisces men are often thought to be wimpy and "girly" and unmanly. Usually by people who don't know or get Pisces nature and do not realize the strength below the surface 😉
I want a sensitive guy! And one likes me taking care of them!
I know, that is why I'm so interested in figuring out what makes this guy ticks - or, rather his likes/dislikes, what turns him on, what I can cook for him, how I can seduce him... you get the picture. I'm guarded... I'm absolutely sure my heart is going to be broke, but at the same time really excited about the prospects. But, in the end, it never works out. 😢
That's exactly what I was thinking, Ian.
Girlfriend, I'm telling you, DROP your expectations and preconceived notions.
DON'T self-sabotage - this relationship hasn't had time to start, much less tank already!
You're in for a helluva ride with Mr. Pisces, so get out of your own way, and grab a frickin' helmet!
'Sides, we love self-confidence... some of us even like borderline (and mild) cockiness.
(But not to the point that you come across as thinking you're better than everyone else!)
You've got it, you know you do... He's a great catch, but so are you!
Rock that shit, lildol!
And keep us posted 😄
Girlfriend, I'm telling you, DROP your expectations and preconceived notions.
DON'T self-sabotage - this relationship hasn't had time to start, much less tank already!
You're in for a helluva ride with Mr. Pisces, so get out of your own way, and grab a frickin' helmet!
'Sides, we love self-confidence... some of us even like borderline (and mild) cockiness.
(But not to the point that you come across as thinking you're better than everyone else!)
You've got it, you know you do... He's a great catch, but so are you!
Rock that shit, lildol!
And keep us posted 😄
I think it's nice that a Cap woman is being so candid about her feelings for a Pisces man. Usually these goats are soooo reserved about their feelings. You go girl!
I'd listen to the advice of the other fishes about NOT trying to figure him out. Just go with it BUT use your typical Capricorn instinct for having backup plans of your own. I believe Pisces men really like women who always have some other solid purpose in life. They seem to appreciate a woman who is stronger & more grounded than them.
Posted by Ms.P
"that overshadow the high failure rate of Pisces women with Cap men"
Someone once posted this data that stated Pisces women and Cap men were more likely to get married and stay married, than any other sign couplings.
Yup, I saw that data too ( and have quoted it a few times myself). More than any other unions, Capricorn men and Pisces women tend to stay together the longest. If Pisces are truly wishy-washy and tend to jump from one relationship to another, then there must be something about this coupling that keeps them together for so long...
I do see that in real life too BUT....as much as I think I know Cap men, it often leaves me scratching my head why someone as emotionally deep & spiritual as a Pisces woman would want to be with a Cap man who is renowned for being cold & unromantic. I blame cold, harsh Saturn...the Capricorn's slave driver ruling planet. I really think Caps would rather be more carefree (like a Saggi). You can see it in their eyes; they always look as if they're some sort of free spirit that's trapped in a human body and would love to break free....
Posted by BeoWulf
I think it's nice that a Cap woman is being so candid about her feelings for a Pisces man.
Well, not exactly... I'm being told that I should be straight up (see scents(ual)) rather than cautiously approaching to feel things out and potentially being mistaken for someone who is playing games.
Posted by lildol
I know, that is why I'm so interested in figuring out what makes this guy ticks - or, rather his likes/dislikes, what turns him on, what I can cook for him, how I can seduce him... you get the picture. I'm guarded... I'm absolutely sure my heart is going to be broke, but at the same time really excited about the prospects. But, in the end, it never works out. 😢
LOL! Now that sounds wishy-washy.
In various cases i.e. cases from my own personal experience and different people I've talked to, the male Pisces like to do the pursuing and the female Pisces likes to be pursued. Some of them can be traditional that way. I bet knowing that you're interested in dating him would tickle his fancy a bit -- that is if he doesn't detest forward women or is just not in to you. I know people are afraid of rejection, but honestly lildol, just go for it.
Posted by lildol
I want a sensitive guy! And one likes me taking care of them!
If he's not pursuing you yet interested in you and showing interest as in responding to you when you come to him then you will have to be more assertive e.g. be the boy and take initiative, ask him out, go out, don't ask for a kiss, take a kiss, be sensitive to his feelings. The rolls have to sort of reverse, he seems receptive but careful, once you get in the doing roll you can't flip and go soft on him, then you will just have 2 softies sitting in the room ignoring one another and waiting for someone to take the lead..
Mr. Pisces is still calling me, but not asking me out! I inquired as to why... he's been busy he said. I feel like I'm being strung along.
Posted by ianthefish
the question is....
why is shaks looking at pisces men in the sex and relationship forum of sasstrology??
He's confused by the feminine nature of his sign and he's heard that Pisces are attentive lovers!!
Posted by Shaks
lilidol, get yourself a real man...
Ian is THE man... hence your attraction Shaks! 😉
Posted by Shaks
I cant say what ian is, cause I dont know him. however judging from his pictures and their "eyebrow-raising" effects.
Wow, you're saying he sparked your interest the first time you laid eyes on him (thus, the eyebrow raising)... very interesting. Very interesting indeed!
The problem here is that Ian is so very good-looking, and Shaka is just average to just below in terms of how they look in their pics. Which it's possible that Shaka doesn't take good pictures, so we have to give him a few extra points for this.
Still, with a few extra ... there's no competing .. Ian is hot. More than hot, he's incrediably good looking.
Shaka knows this, and it's evident in his targeting Ian's manhood.
Still, with a few extra ... there's no competing .. Ian is hot. More than hot, he's incrediably good looking.
Shaka knows this, and it's evident in his targeting Ian's manhood.
Jealousy is the word that comes to mind.
Personally, I love Pisces men ... they are the only ones who are real to me.
*Takes sewing needle and pokes Ian's head to deflate his bloated ego* Does your head feel better Ian— hehehehe j/k
It is a piscean thing ....when your hawt ....your hawt. 😛
PD
It is a piscean thing ....when your hawt ....your hawt. 😛
PD
*Takes sewing needle and pokes Ian's head to deflate his bloated ego* Does your head feel better Ian— hehehehe j/k
It is a piscean thing ....when your hawt ....your hawt. 😛
PD
It is a piscean thing ....when your hawt ....your hawt. 😛
PD
*Takes sewing needle and pokes Ian's head to deflate his bloated ego* Does your head feel better Ian— hehehehe j/k
It is a piscean thing ....when your hawt ....your hawt. 😛
PD
Ooooo the pleasure of floating around in all this hawtness!!! 😛 hehehehehe
It is a piscean thing ....when your hawt ....your hawt. 😛
PD
Ooooo the pleasure of floating around in all this hawtness!!! 😛 hehehehehe
I am being honary and corrupt .....😛 I will poke you if you poke me.......hahaha ......of course talking about our inflated egos. 😛 hahahaha
PD
PD
Round and round... he finally asked if I "want to do something tonight"... I have a date with whom I want at least 🙂
He took me out to a little sports bar... no problem for me. I think he wanted to show me off. (said I looked sexy).
He made me breakfast this morning too 🙂
He made me breakfast this morning too 🙂
Breakfast .....after a night at the sports bar!!! Wooooo hooooo
So you like him lildol? Did he seduce you with his eyes and charm? That is one thing about Pisces men ......they are very charming, sweet, kind of boyish innocents about them.
PD
So you like him lildol? Did he seduce you with his eyes and charm? That is one thing about Pisces men ......they are very charming, sweet, kind of boyish innocents about them.
PD
YEAH I like him - the more I get to know about him and talk to him, the more I like him (oh yeah, that's the way it should work)!
It was a GREAT night all together... (I'll spare you all the details)
Not sure where I stand though (again)... he asked me a question yesterday just prior to taking me home and I responded honestly, he pushed my arms off of him (I was standing behind him with my arms around him) and said that what I admitted to was a turn off (something that occurred 8 yrs ago and only once). My first thought was, and I told him so, that I should have lied. He told me he appreciated my honesty - that didn't make me feel any better as I could feel this sudden rift btwn us. I am too damn honest sometimes, honest to a fault (couldn't lie to my parents as a little kid either).
He took me home and before I got out of the truck I asked if he would be able to 'get over it' he just said that he didn't know.
It was a GREAT night all together... (I'll spare you all the details)
Not sure where I stand though (again)... he asked me a question yesterday just prior to taking me home and I responded honestly, he pushed my arms off of him (I was standing behind him with my arms around him) and said that what I admitted to was a turn off (something that occurred 8 yrs ago and only once). My first thought was, and I told him so, that I should have lied. He told me he appreciated my honesty - that didn't make me feel any better as I could feel this sudden rift btwn us. I am too damn honest sometimes, honest to a fault (couldn't lie to my parents as a little kid either).
He took me home and before I got out of the truck I asked if he would be able to 'get over it' he just said that he didn't know.
I stayed the night at his house and he got up and made me breakfast! (he was also up in the middle of the night getting me cough medicine and a glass of water because I'm getting over a cold - he kept asking "what can I do for you?" - I'm so used to doing for myself I felt a little odd about it).
FLeo, though I tend to agree that Pisces really want perfection, we also know deep down that it doesn't truly exist... we're mostly self-perfectionists, and overly-accommodating of others' flaws. We wear those rosy glasses most of the time, and SEE perfection where there clearly isn't any LOL Yes, honesty IS the best policy, especially with a Pisces. If she'd LIED to him about this thing that happened 8 yrs ago, and he someday found out, even years into the future... he would be LIVID that she lied. Then it wouldn't be about him internally processing this little bit of info she admitted to - no way, then it would be all about the LIE and blow up in her face, bigtime! Give him a chance to sort through how he truly feels about whatever the juicy gossip was. Don't bring it up - it's on HIM to either wrap his mind around it and accept it as part of your past (which is actually quite easy for us to do) or to NOT accept it and disengage. Now, I must caution you, if this piece of info has *other* ramifications, esp that go against deeply held beliefs and opinions.. say, for example.. it's that you cheated on someone.. that's MUCH more difficult to process and accept, because it could mean that you would do so again. It messes with trust issues - Pisces need to be able to trust you. However, your next step is still the same: Don't bring it up. Let him process it. He'll bring it up again if he wants to. Oh... and if he ever throws it in your face to hurt or shame you.. RUN.. that means he has NOT let it go, accepted it, forgiven it, whatever. And he likely won't.
Nefer, just to be clear, no cheating involved - I don't want anyone jumping to that conclusion as I have not specified what 'it' is.
Mr. Pisces did bring 'it' up a couple of nights ago when he called. He said that it does go against his belief system and I've bought into the East Coast mentality - of course that's ridiculous, it was something that happened once, I didn't date this person, and not a path I intend to go down again due to the lack of general sex appeal (and its not an E. Coast mentality thing anyway). I explained to him the situation at the time. I felt he was judging me for a little thing (in my mind anyway) that happened eons ago. I was feeling so rejected!!
He admitted that he isn't perfect and that we all have done things that we regret. He was pushing the "you feel guilty, don't you?" card. I had my regrets as it involved a friend, but we moved on like mature adults and continued being friends. Guilt, because of what I did was wrong? (in Mr. Pisces mind, it's not what I did, but who I did it with). I answered not in reference to the guilt he thinks I should feel, but the regret I had for going down the path I did.
I did call him the next morning to say good morning and he did pick up despite the fact he was running 45 min late... so, maybe all is not lost.
Mr. Pisces did bring 'it' up a couple of nights ago when he called. He said that it does go against his belief system and I've bought into the East Coast mentality - of course that's ridiculous, it was something that happened once, I didn't date this person, and not a path I intend to go down again due to the lack of general sex appeal (and its not an E. Coast mentality thing anyway). I explained to him the situation at the time. I felt he was judging me for a little thing (in my mind anyway) that happened eons ago. I was feeling so rejected!!
He admitted that he isn't perfect and that we all have done things that we regret. He was pushing the "you feel guilty, don't you?" card. I had my regrets as it involved a friend, but we moved on like mature adults and continued being friends. Guilt, because of what I did was wrong? (in Mr. Pisces mind, it's not what I did, but who I did it with). I answered not in reference to the guilt he thinks I should feel, but the regret I had for going down the path I did.
I did call him the next morning to say good morning and he did pick up despite the fact he was running 45 min late... so, maybe all is not lost.
He called, so I guess I'm not completely out of the picture. Actually, he told me about a wedding he was invited to at the end of the month and made a joke about my best friend probably not being available. No, he didn't ask me to join him... but, why would he bring up my best friend? *rolling eyes* Of course, he then proceeded to tell me he needs to put some controls in place and I shouldn't hang out with her as he thinks she is a bad influence on me because when I shared the 'issue' at hand as of late she said I should have lied (yes, I was honest with him when he asked what she said when I told her... like I said before: honest to a fault). That was in response to his reaction though... I don't think she would have ever suggested that before hand, how would we have known that he would have responded the way that he did. (she's an Aries, btw). The control thing about who my friends are, even jokingly, not good, he's starting to sound a little possessive!
Oh, back to what Nefer said... he did tell me that if I had lied he would never have spoken to me again. So, you're right on there!
Oh, back to what Nefer said... he did tell me that if I had lied he would never have spoken to me again. So, you're right on there!
Posted by poopsie1
"Oh... and if he ever throws it in your face to hurt or shame you.. RUN.. that means he has NOT let it go, accepted it, forgiven it, whatever. And he likely won't."
--->
"Mr. Pisces did bring 'it' up a couple of nights ago when he called. He said that it does go against his belief system"
"He was pushing the "you feel guilty, don't you?" card."
"I felt he was judging me for a little thing (in my mind anyway) that happened eons ago. I was feeling so rejected!!"
So, RUN as Neter and ianthefish said.
Further,
"he then proceeded to tell me he needs to put some controls in place and I shouldn't hang out with her as he thinks she is a bad influence on me"
" The control thing about who my friends are, even jokingly, not good, he's starting to sound a little possessive!"
again, trust your intuition --> RUN.
i'd freaking go nuts if i see another capricorn woman finding exuses after excuses for the non-worthies. you are too nice and simple to deal with some water signs.
Poopsie, I don't make excuses, I rationalize others behaviors and try to understand my own motivations. Likewise, I don't tend to act on intuition - wouldn't that be like letting emotions get in the way? - I have to analyze everything.
And, I don't think that he wasn't throwing 'it' in my face... we had not discussed it at that point. I had actually told him the day prior that I did not want to talk about it. I think we needed to have the conversation, I was able to explain the situation and he was able to get it off his chest how he felt and why he reacted the way he did. I would hope that would help him move beyond it. I'm not the best communicator, I will shut down and not talk about things when it comes to anything that will draw negative emotions out of me - so, it was a big step for me to listen to what he had to say and for me to be able to explain the motivational factors behind what happened (and face the possibility of rejection).
The other comment... not sure what to make of it... I think sometimes he says things just to say things. But, then again, they say that there is some truth to every joke. Thus I think his comment is suggestive of some deep down feeling of jealousy, possessiveness or insecurity. I'm the type of person that will try to reassure the other that they matter and they matter the most... so I know I need to tread carefully because, if I
correction: I don't think he WAS throwing it in my face...
Posted by poopsie1
lildol, i personally think the 1st mistake you made was to let him take you home after he brushed your hands off him (after you answered his question).
Uh, you mis-read what I wrote, it was the next morning AFTER breakfast he asked me 'the' question... I don't think he would have wanted me to go home with him had he broached the subject the night before. And going home with him was planned (although without discussion) on both of our parts - it's not like we got drunk and I let my inhibitions go. I would have been very shocked had he insisted on taking me home that night and would have taken it personally...
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