Mosque Near World Trade Centre (Page 3)

Tate always jumps in when people with little or no usful knowledge of facts reguarding a subject show disdain for the advice of others.
The ones who claim to know everything avoid the full range of information or understanding.
They tend to pick around the circumstances or conditions to apprehend the truth or facts.
They avoid the sum of what is known the body of truth, information and principles acquired by mankind.

maybe its just the way I see this

maybe its just the way I see this

Very probable most of the time khakham.

Tubby


And ahmadinejad said that iran doesn't have gays. He's an idiot so he deserved to be laughed at.


Translated wrongly as usual by fucking western media for the duped minds, he said "We don't have homosexuals in Iran the way you have them in the U.S."

Now??_ that makes differences isn't it..??

Stop getting your so called information by browsing MSM, they will tell you nothing but lies.

Tate, lemme know when u and cal get into your swimwear. The title of biggest "queen" awaits u.


Q, how dare you? First, if I don't speak a language, I rely on the translation and where I recognize that meanings can get lost, this isn't one of those cases. He said, and please refute as the videos are on youtube...


"In Iran, we don't have homosexuals, like in your country. We don't have that in our country. In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have it."


Now that's taking what he said into proper context so to answer your question, no, it doesn't make a difference cause in the end, I'm still right, you're wrong, and he's an idiot.

How did I overlook this treat of a thread....lol.


I can see where both sides are coming from, it's really hard for me to explain. I really don't even want to go there.

I understand why people are upset over this...makes perfect sense. BUT that doesn't mean I don't think they're very misinformed and misguided in their reasoning behind their emotions.

@tubbyscubby:

You've spewed so much incoherent confusions and inaccuracies, where shall we begin? Let's take some of your quotes in this tirade.

Clearly you have an axe to grind with Islam and/or Muslims, with provocative statements like:

"Freedom of religion or treetrunk 'em?"
"I thought muslim men died happy because of the virgins that await them?"
"Their god is awesome! Takes no prisoners. Carved out a place on earth specifically for them and what do ya know!"


Yet the irony of your statement here, is somehow lost on you in this entire discussion:
"It's funny how people claim intolerance while being intolerant themselves."

Last time I checked, America not only enshrines freedom of worship in our constitution, America's very reason of being owes itself to providing shelter for Europeans who fled religious and political persecution centuries ago. How fast we forget our history.

And you are typing stupidity from your Blackberry, calling OTHERS ignorant? That's rich. Pot calling the kettle, black?

Then you go on to make the curious statement:
"It will be argued that building a mosque in close proximity to the WTC site post 9-11 is inciting."

Exactly what is it inciting?

Let's get real - if this was a Buddhist temple, a Mormon church, or a synagogue, nobody would complain or raise a political hue and cry.

If people feel "incited" to violence or protest because Muslims wish to pray in a mosque in downtown NYC, then they're victims of Islamophobic fearmongering and utter prejudice. And you waxed poetic about intolerance, earlier?

If the WTC site is regarded as an area sensitivity why shouldn't that be respected?

"And no, my topic isn't about numbers. 3000 died but a nation mourned. This isn't about the dead, its about the living and how we choose to honor them."

Clearly you're not a New Yorker, nor have any clue about the legal cases and the political bluster, that's been going on under the radar of the national media (for YEARS, in some cases) against Rudy Giuliani, what the gripes of the NY Fire Department are with 'America's mayor', about the grievances of 9/11 widows of the fallen. Or you're just dismissing it because it doesn't sit well with your political slant.

Moreover, are you aware that hundreds of Muslims perished in 9/11? Will you honor them?

Spare us the drivel. Spare yourself further disgrace.

Scorpios...I honestly think your sign lacks intelligence. Like, you're all born with some form of mental retardation.

I choose not to read anything posted by your sign. I try but am always shocked by the lack of perception, understanding and depth. So if you're looking for a counter, this is as good as it gets.

I'm waiting on responses from the virgo at this point. At least he's interesting.

who ever Cal is he or she plays it close, only two thoughts
One Cal has some good points
Two there are only two sides to this argument your BIAS side and my side.

Your view is expressed behind a shroud of stupidity and provocation. Remove the mask and lend some accuracy to point 2.

you might count who agrees with me and who with you.

Most of the folk here have no idea what you're saying 99% of the time and those that do "tal k lik dis." The sad part is, their ignorance is legit and yours is one big act. I applaud you though. The piper of hamelin has residency on dxp. Unfortunately he has yet to realize I'm not one of the flea infested rodents who plague this thread.

no Rat holds that spot but you are catching up.

Im using my toes cant hold my darts and a pint with my toes so have to keep the hands free.

Silly man. She's from NIMH. The ones that follow you are straight gutter.

Ahh...

OUT

tubby ya I'm so ignorant u've bit my shit since ur old tired ugly bitter pathetic ass got here 😄

as I state ALL the time I'm hardly concerned with how dish rags lk urself perceive me

I'm well lk'd here & in rl 🙂

this is what eats u up isn't it? no matter how hard u try...u won't be heard cuz all ur words r tempered with hatred of urself & others therefor ur soul withers & slowly dies

don't lay all that on others

improve urself or suffer plain & simple

ur rotting & u reek we all smell it...why can't u?

Posted by tubbyscubby
Silly man. She's from NIMH. The ones that follow you are straight gutter.

people in glass houses surely shouldn't throw stones

projection is so ugly just lk tubbs

Too easy

Posted by tubbyscubby
Too easy

that's what he said

Adding "flautist" to my list of skills.

Lion and a rat

I don't storm and I left to read words.

If it helps, I read in the nude.

No, that's the opposite of me.

They're so mysterious and complex.

Ok, back to reading..."in the nuuuuuude" (sandy cheeks).

Posted by tubbyscubby
If it helps, I read in the nude.

I just threw up in my mouth a lil

yay Friday night have a great weekend

ROCKY I TO ROCKY XVII is a good start John Wayne is also good

Posted by LovelyScorp
It's funny how "we americans" have been mentioned in this thread at least a half dozen times without any consideration for the fact there are many "americans" who are Muslim.

What exactly is the definition of an American? Really?

Can you spare me this retarded idealism?

Minorities across this country are unfairly targeted/profiled/judged on a daily basis. Fuck them and you for presuming they're exempt. If you're foolish enough to believe that they're saying "God Bless America" in private, then you're also dumb enough to believe that Jeremiah Wright saying "God Damn America" is racist.

Idiot.

It's sad that the majority of Americans truly and wholeheartedly believe this is a Muslim vs. Christian war (as LS previously noted.)Because that could really not be further from the truth.
But that just goes to show easily American's are manipulated by the media and politicians. :/
Not to mention the fact that 85% of the country still hasn't woken up and realized Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan never had a single thing to do with the attacks on the WTC.

I don't mean to sound condescending when I say I feel bad for them...because I really mean it. I don't think I'm above anyone, or of higher intelligence or anything. It just really seems the majority has accepted being misinformed and misguided, and has taken little initiative to search for truth on their own. Too many people watch TV to become "informed" on current events. Wrong, so wrong. 😢

I'm not too sure I would so freely believe Muslims "hate" America because we are a "Christian nation" either...especially enough to wage war over it. I can't even say that without lol'ing really. That's so illogical! Get real with yourselves please.



Still, I understand why people are upset considering they do believe this is Muslims vs. Us.
Placing a Mosque at a location where thousands of Americans died due to what they have been misled into believing was a Muslim attack is absolutely enraging. It does seem like the enemy claiming victory and planting their flag, as Asleep said.
But, their whole foundation is wrong.

AT THE SAME TIME whoever's idea this was to build the Mosque at the WTC location is a total fucking asshat, and they know very well what they're doing and they're sick individuals.

The war has no place in this discussion. Apples and oranges. Soldiers weren't attacked. Civilians were. Vas-y!

Well they see the attacks on the WTC as the reason we're at war, and that's not true either.

That's the only reason I brought it up really, to example how misled and misinformed this country is.

Who are "they?"

And for someone who doesn't want to condescend, you sure climbed up on high pretty quickly.

Americans are arrogant and hypocritical. Us v. Them on every issue. You disagree? You must be one of "them" who doesn't know any better.

How about regardless of what you do or don't know that you're all idiots?

Muslims in America deserve scrutiny whenever they are in positions that even remotely tie into 9-11.

If a group of teens walk into a store, it behooves the manager to keep an eye on them.

If a group of people who have attacked the same site TWICE over the span of a decade+ want to set up a loosely related shop next door, fucks no.

Muslims didn't attack the WTC.

& yes I am American and therefore quite naive and often misinformed myself. The only reason I consider myself more informed on this subject is my close relation to someone in the military who knows better than anyone here, sitting at home, watching the news.

I meant "they" by the misguided Americans who still believe this was a Muslim attack.

The hijackers, who happened to be Muslim, were merely pawns in other peoples' agendas.

Muslims did not attack America because they hate us. That's ridiculous if anyone believes that.

It's all about sick people in power, and political agendas.

Ft Hood is an excellent example in stupidity.

Americans in the majority are under the false assumption that those in minority should conform. Screw you and your melting pot.

The way to get at how disenfranchised groups really view this country is to find out what they really think os "US."

Unfortunately when "they" dare speak out, dare tell the truth, the "White Whine" begins. The majority has a way of transforming any negative truth into a personal attack. Their defensiveness prohibits discussion, understanding and progression.

Americans have a virgos soul and a cancer's posture...like how I tied astro into that dontcha?

Posted by tubbyscubby

Americans have a virgos soul and a cancer's posture...like how I tied astro into that dontcha?

Lol very impressive actually

Posted by brianafay
Muslims didn't attack the WTC.

WUT?!

Then y say they did two posts later?

Posted by LovelyScorp

Posted by tubbyscubby

Posted by LovelyScorp
It's funny how "we americans" have been mentioned in this thread at least a half dozen times without any consideration for the fact there are many "americans" who are Muslim.

What exactly is the definition of an American? Really?

Can you spare me this retarded idealism?

Minorities across this country are unfairly targeted/profiled/judged on a daily basis. Fuck them and you for presuming they're exempt. If you're foolish enough to believe that they're saying "God Bless America" in private, then you're also dumb enough to believe that Jeremiah Wright saying "God Damn America" is racist.

Idiot.

I wasn't addressing you but thanks for the shout out nonetheless. I had accepted the fact you weren't responding to any Scorpio's and were going on about my day as usual.

Have a great Friday sweets! 🙂

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But I was addressing you as I am now. Had to put one idiot on ignore, you're about to be next. At least you can spell though.

I meant the Muslim nation. I should have clarified.
This wasn't: we're Muslim, we hate you because you're not...we're going to blow ourselves up in our God's name and take as many of you fuckers out as possible. That's sad people buy that. That's the kind of mindset that breeds hatred and prejudice. Which is of course what they want, so they can get away with their political agendas. Like war in a country who has nothing to do with anything.

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Posted by brianafay
AT THE SAME TIME whoever's idea this was to build the Mosque at the WTC location is a total fucking asshat, and they know very well what they're doing and they're sick individuals.

^yep.
Why not build structures for all the major religions, and maybe some lesser ones on the site, that way surely they can be no arguing ?

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Lol right? Instigators.




Worse than you 😛

Oh Muslim attack people who can't spell OMG Wales is next.

Posted by brianafay
I meant the Muslim nation. I should have clarified.
This wasn't: we're Muslim, we hate you because you're not...we're going to blow ourselves up in our God's name and take as many of you fuckers out as possible. That's sad people buy that. That's the kind of mindset that breeds hatred and prejudice. Which is of course what they want, so they can get away with their political agendas. Like war in a country who has nothing to do with anything.

I didn't finish this...

SO although the hijackers happened to be Muslim, this wasn't about Muslim vs. Christian. They were pawns, and it's unfortunate.

And knowing someone in the armed forces doesn't garner insight. The majority of our troops are ill-educated children who are thrust into adult roles. Where they have unique insight, their understanding of psyches, cultures, history, etc is limited. Their perspective is invaluable but carrying a gun doesn't make you a rhodes scholar

Posted by tubbyscubby
And knowing someone in the armed forces doesn't garner insight. The majority of our troops are ill-educated children who are thrust into adult roles. Where they have unique insight, their understanding of psyches, cultures, history, etc is limited. Their perspective is invaluable but carrying a gun doesn't make you a rhodes scholar

Agreed.