jeane
@jeane
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Theresa May is the worst Prime Minister for the last 50 years
Didn’t she suffer the worst defeat in British history?
yes, she presented a withdrawal agreement from the eu to the uk parliament. the house voted to reject the agreement in a landslide.
she remains in place.
she remains in place.
Posted by Victorious
He immediately resigned when it was announced. He didn't show any leadership or any balls.
He knew the country would be fucked. He is responsible.
Wasn't he against Brexit? But held the referendum anyway?
Posted by kreolPosted by Ram416Posted by Victorious
He immediately resigned when it was announced. He didn't show any leadership or any balls.
He knew the country would be fucked. He is responsible.
Wasn't he against Brexit? But held the referendum anyway?
Yes he was, he campaigned to remain. The referendum was triggered to appease far elements who were gaining momentum in mainstream politics at the time, within the Conservative party itself and the general population as a wholeclick to expand
Well then that explains why he resigned. It would have been pretty bad if he stayed on to carry something he was dead against.
I don't agree. I like her, I think she is a very strong woman. She was amazing as home secretary, and better as Prime Minister :-)
Her only problem here was not keeping all in loop during the negotiations.
Her only problem here was not keeping all in loop during the negotiations.
she was the one who triggered article 50 without a plan. she was the one who created her red lines. she is the one who ran out and continues to run out the clock.
as home secretary she is the one who didn't enforce the freedom of movement laws afforded to her which lead to the rising dissent against migrants.
as home secretary she is also striped the police of their budget and their number so she was rubbish there too.
at this point she is back tracking and trying to be a people pleaser by saying one thing to one group and another to others.
and she can't dance.
cameron got us in this mess but she has totally made a dog's dinner out of this.
as home secretary she is the one who didn't enforce the freedom of movement laws afforded to her which lead to the rising dissent against migrants.
as home secretary she is also striped the police of their budget and their number so she was rubbish there too.
at this point she is back tracking and trying to be a people pleaser by saying one thing to one group and another to others.
and she can't dance.
cameron got us in this mess but she has totally made a dog's dinner out of this.
Posted by Antiochus
To be fair she was thrown into an extremly shitty poistion that has been and still is practically unsolvable without taking some damage. No matter what she does she can't win this.
she wasn't thrown, she chose to chase after the position.
Jeane idk if it'll make you feel better, but we did some simulations at work and the doomsday predictions of a 20-30 year recession that are being circulated in the press are most likely (90% + probability) hogwash.
Posted by Mr_Pinchy
Jeane idk if it'll make you feel better, but we did some simulations at work and the doomsday predictions of a 20-30 year recession that are being circulated in the press are most likely (90% + probability) hogwash.
the whole thing has me on edge to be honest. i'm just astounded at the phenomenal act of stupidity the country is inflicting on itself.
your words help though. 🙂
our leaders are pretty much sucking these days ...
Posted by jeanePosted by Mr_Pinchy
Jeane idk if it'll make you feel better, but we did some simulations at work and the doomsday predictions of a 20-30 year recession that are being circulated in the press are most likely (90% + probability) hogwash.
the whole thing has me on edge to be honest. i'm just astounded at the phenomenal act of stupidity the country is inflicting on itself.
your words help though. 🙂
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You know, the sentiment that some people in the UK have.... that far away semi-elected bureaucrats deciding on laws and regulations for a country they've never even been in is wrong.....they are not alone in thinking this might not be the best way to carry on forward.
Especially seeing how the EU handles disagreement with member states (sanctions threatened on Poland, Hungary, soft sellout of Italy so that their future, yet to be acquired debt interests become unsustainable. Or how they handle members in distress. Which would be Greece.
Posted by Mr_PinchyPosted by jeanePosted by Mr_Pinchy
Jeane idk if it'll make you feel better, but we did some simulations at work and the doomsday predictions of a 20-30 year recession that are being circulated in the press are most likely (90% + probability) hogwash.
the whole thing has me on edge to be honest. i'm just astounded at the phenomenal act of stupidity the country is inflicting on itself.
your words help though. 🙂
You know, the sentiment that some people in the UK have.... that far away semi-elected bureaucrats deciding on laws and regulations for a country they've never even been in is wrong.....they are not alone in thinking this might not be the best way to carry on forward.
Especially seeing how the EU handles disagreement with member states (sanctions threatened on Poland, Hungary, soft sellout of Italy so that their future, yet to be acquired debt interests become unsustainable. Or how they handle members in distress. Which would be Greece.
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with no plan on how to go forward.
the only country without a trade deal. the only country solely operating on wto terms. terms which russia is ready to veto. rule makers, not rule takers but currently opting for either of two options where the uk would be rule takers. while risking manufacturing and agriculture for the pleasure.
lets not kid ourselves. it wasn't about i don't like how the the eu operate especially given the uk has (had) the 2nd largest number of votes at the table. don't like how they dealt with greece? the uk was party to those decisions.
of 35000 laws in this country, approx 4500 are shared with the eu. of those 4500, 72 laws are ones that imposed on the uk. eg, not having steroids in our foods, having livestock health checks, all workers regardless of origin having the same rights. etc etc.
most people voted to leave because in their view there were too many foreigners here. now we are looking between having medicines or food, the value of the pound has dropped, billions of pounds are leaving the country and people are losing their jobs but shit, we can't have people speaking foreign in the bus now can we?
this is a clusterfuck and theresa may who knew all of this from the start while she campaigned for remain still is leading us down a road that will make us worse off.
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Posted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.click to expand
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
Posted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sureclick to expand
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Posted by VictoriousPosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
I don't agree. I like her, I think she is a very strong woman. She was amazing as home secretary, and better as Prime Minister :-)
Her only problem here was not keeping all in loop during the negotiations.
She was awful as home sec.click to expand
Why do you say that? What did you not agree with?
Posted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.click to expand
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
Posted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.click to expand
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
Posted by VictoriousPosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
I guess the rising racist attacks make for jobs well done then.
The biggest problems are doom mongering? Jfc. Daily Mail reader?click to expand
Ok.....
And here i thought she was against "stop and search" because it discriminted more against people of colour.
I quote:
"I want to make myself absolutely clear: if the numbers do not come down, if stop and search does not become more targeted, if those stop-to-arrest ratios do not improve considerably, the government will return with primary legislation to make those things happen," May told the Commons.
"Nobody wins when stop and search is misapplied. It is a waste of police time. It is unfair, especially to young, black men. It is bad for public confidence in the police," she told MPs
Posted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.click to expand
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
Posted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?click to expand
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.
Posted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.click to expand
You are partly right. But you are living in a dream world if you think the EU would of given anyone else a better deal. Look how many of the "negotiators" resigned.... why do you think that is. They were getting no where with EU... Lets be honest and just admit to ourselves they are making an example of the UK leaving. I mean an institution like the EU giving us bells and whistles to leave smacks them right on the other cheeck. They making an example of us so other are not tempted to leave. Its not rocket science. The vote made our bed... we must lie in it. Like it or not
Posted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.
You are partly right. But you are living in a dream world if you think the EU would of given anyone else a better deal. Look how many of the "negotiators" resigned.... why do you think that is. They were getting no where with EU... Lets be honest and just admit to ourselves they are making an example of the UK leaving. I mean an institution like the EU giving us bells and whistles to leave smacks them right on the other cheeck. They making an example of us so other are not tempted to leave. Its not rocket science. The vote made our bed... we must lie in it. Like it or notclick to expand
we cannot get a better deal because there is no better deal than remaining as part of the strongest trade body in the world.
when people voted to leave they voted to make themselves poorer and weaker. they voted to relinquish power. they decided to step down from a strong leadership role in europe.
theresa may has compounded that decision by lying to the uk for the last two years by saying that is is not the case. even though she was saying it before the referendum. she backtracks. she tells people what they want to hear so she can remain favourable within her party and within the electorate. she is doing it now. last night she voted against her own deal to appease a minority in her own party, despite knowing what the answer will be. she played into the delusions of extremists. today she has egg on her face because she is told what we all ready knew; the eu and the uk agreed the withdrawal agreement at the end of last year. so now we are still where we were in december but now with two weeks less to play with.
the eu will protect the eu and its members. why shouldn't they? that is the point of a union. to protect its own interests. its not in their interests to capitulate to a non-member, ie the stamping feet of toddler britain.
united we stand, divided we fall. the 27 is united. the uk is divided. who do you think is going to fall? (most likely into line...)
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by jeanePosted by QueenofthepheasantfairiesPosted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
This is great for people like me who want to travel to london and have it match the dollar
plus future options on the housing market
it'll collapse even furtherclick to expand
yep. fill your boots.
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There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.
You are partly right. But you are living in a dream world if you think the EU would of given anyone else a better deal. Look how many of the "negotiators" resigned.... why do you think that is. They were getting no where with EU... Lets be honest and just admit to ourselves they are making an example of the UK leaving. I mean an institution like the EU giving us bells and whistles to leave smacks them right on the other cheeck. They making an example of us so other are not tempted to leave. Its not rocket science. The vote made our bed... we must lie in it. Like it or not
We would have gotten a decent deal but the first thing our "negotiators" did was announce we would aggressively tax EU states.
Beyond fucking stupid. Inept fucking bastards, trying to hardball when you have nothing to hardball with.
If a different government came in I think they would be much more favourable towards them in negotiations.click to expand
Who do you think would of done a better job?
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There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.
You are partly right. But you are living in a dream world if you think the EU would of given anyone else a better deal. Look how many of the "negotiators" resigned.... why do you think that is. They were getting no where with EU... Lets be honest and just admit to ourselves they are making an example of the UK leaving. I mean an institution like the EU giving us bells and whistles to leave smacks them right on the other cheeck. They making an example of us so other are not tempted to leave. Its not rocket science. The vote made our bed... we must lie in it. Like it or not
we cannot get a better deal because there is no better deal than remaining as part of the strongest trade body in the world.
when people voted to leave they voted to make themselves poorer and weaker. they voted to relinquish power. they decided to step down from a strong leadership role in europe.
theresa may has compounded that decision by lying to the uk for the last two years by saying that is is not the case. even though she was saying it before the referendum. she backtracks. she tells people what they want to hear so she can remain favourable within her party and within the electorate. she is doing it now. last night she voted against her own deal to appease a minority in her own party, despite knowing what the answer will be. she played into the delusions of extremists. today she has egg on her face because she is told what we all ready knew; the eu and the uk agreed the withdrawal agreement at the end of last year. so now we are still where we were in december but now with two weeks less to play with.
the eu will protect the eu and its members. why shouldn't they? that is the point of a union. to protect its own interests. its not in their interests to capitulate to a non-member, ie the stamping feet of toddler britain.
united we stand, divided we fall. the 27 is united. the uk is divided. who do you think is going to fall? (most likely into line...)click to expand
Agree with parts. Disagree with others. But ill leave it here as i feel we chasing our tails going round in circles. 😀
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There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.
You are partly right. But you are living in a dream world if you think the EU would of given anyone else a better deal. Look how many of the "negotiators" resigned.... why do you think that is. They were getting no where with EU... Lets be honest and just admit to ourselves they are making an example of the UK leaving. I mean an institution like the EU giving us bells and whistles to leave smacks them right on the other cheeck. They making an example of us so other are not tempted to leave. Its not rocket science. The vote made our bed... we must lie in it. Like it or not
We would have gotten a decent deal but the first thing our "negotiators" did was announce we would aggressively tax EU states.
Beyond fucking stupid. Inept fucking bastards, trying to hardball when you have nothing to hardball with.
If a different government came in I think they would be much more favourable towards them in negotiations.
Who do you think would of done a better job?
Everyone else aside from UKIP.click to expand
Completely agree. They would never even be one of my considerations so take them off the table completely.... and dont give me an open ended answer 😉... who do you think would of done a better job?
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There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
This is great for people like me who want to travel to london and have it match the dollar
plus future options on the housing market
it'll collapse even further
yep. fill your boots.
im thinking why buy in Seattle, if housing markets fall in london, i rather have a london flatclick to expand
In parts its turning into a bit of a buyers market at the moment and i think this is of course a good thing. So you are thinking the right thing here. Who knows eventually you could have both 😀
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There is no way to predict what is going to happen. The UK is the first country to ever try untangle itself from the EU. I think people focusing so much on negatives "what could happen" is what will bring us all down.
The UK has always been a powerful country for MANY years before the EU was ever thought of, have you no faith in what we are capable of?
The biggest problem we face is all the doom-mongering in my honest opinion.
Lets be honest, how many people thought ww3 would break out soon after Trump became president? I for one thought he would fail flat on his face. I DO NOT like Trump or anything he stands for, but I can tell you one thing for certain. He has done a better job at being leader than I thought he would even to begin with.
We need to change our mindsets.
different world today toots. harking back to ye olden days when we all rode about in ships and suffered from rickets is not going to deal with the reality that all, yes, both sides, the government too, has said that we will be worse off.
you don't need to predict what is going to happen. you just have to read the news and see what is happening before your eyes.
however if you choose to keep them shut in the hope that if you believe hard enuff a unicorn will turn up, then stay asleep.
Indeed cause the "news" is always truth. But yes...we cant all be an optimist thats for sure
are you saying that news that sony leaving, jaguar is closing, barclays today have confirmed they will be moving £190bn worth of assets to ireland, that the pound has tanked (especially immediately after the defeat of the cooper amendment yesterday) is all lies?
all these things are verifiable.
although it might be comforting to dismiss these as fanciful because they don't align with what you wish to be the case, reality can't be ignored.
Oh give over. You know exactly what i meant about "news". I clearly put it in inverted commas for you in my previous post.
this is the news i was speaking of in my first post. you then referred to that as "news" implying that the term news should be used loosely. i'm saying that is it news with no reason to doubt its legitimacy.
My reference was scare mongering news. As my previous post clearly stated. Are you one of those who think Labour are going to save us all with Jeremy at the helm?
i didn't mention scare mongering news. you just assumed that all news that doesn't have ' rule britannia! britannia rule the waves' at its core must be project fear.
jeremy won't save us either. but theresa may is just as dogmatic, just as self invested, just as useless as corbyn. the difference is she is pm. far from being strong, she is a weak leader because she is willing to sell this country down the river to secure her own position in the party.
she's a flakey, unreliable, amoral libra.
You are partly right. But you are living in a dream world if you think the EU would of given anyone else a better deal. Look how many of the "negotiators" resigned.... why do you think that is. They were getting no where with EU... Lets be honest and just admit to ourselves they are making an example of the UK leaving. I mean an institution like the EU giving us bells and whistles to leave smacks them right on the other cheeck. They making an example of us so other are not tempted to leave. Its not rocket science. The vote made our bed... we must lie in it. Like it or not
We would have gotten a decent deal but the first thing our "negotiators" did was announce we would aggressively tax EU states.
Beyond fucking stupid. Inept fucking bastards, trying to hardball when you have nothing to hardball with.
If a different government came in I think they would be much more favourable towards them in negotiations.
Who do you think would of done a better job?
Everyone else aside from UKIP.
Completely agree. They would never even be one of my considerations so take them off the table completely.... and dont give me an open ended answer 😉... who do you think would of done a better job?
It wasn't an open ended answer, I don't think you realize just how incompetent this current government is. Every other party aside from UKIP would have done a better job.click to expand
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit_negotiations
Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.click to expand
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lolclick to expand
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.click to expand
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...click to expand
why do you want to know?
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...
why do you want to know?click to expand
Just a minor "unrelated" topic on my thoughts as a mum. All this EU talk got me thinking if im looking at things different because of my company head office being in Norway who arnt part of EU and i think in the UK we are very fortunate with our maternity and paternity laws here. Do you know how generous Norway are with their leave? Bloody hell if we had that here 😁
They very family orientated
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/anewlifeinnorway.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/norwegian-parental-benefits-vs-british-parental-benefits/amp
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...
why do you want to know?
Just a minor "unrelated" topic on my thoughts as a mum. All this EU talk got me thinking if im looking at things different because of my company head office being in Norway who arnt part of EU and i think in the UK we are very fortunate with our maternity and paternity laws here. Do you know how generous Norway are with their leave? Bloody hell if we had that here 😁
They very family orientated
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/anewlifeinnorway.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/norwegian-parental-benefits-vs-british-parental-benefits/amp
click to expand
i'm envious of all the scandi countries. i think in sweden you get a year and a half.
with that said, the scandi countries have a much higher tax rate but i would pay it in a heart beat so much so that i am considering moving there if things go tits up here.
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...
why do you want to know?
Just a minor "unrelated" topic on my thoughts as a mum. All this EU talk got me thinking if im looking at things different because of my company head office being in Norway who arnt part of EU and i think in the UK we are very fortunate with our maternity and paternity laws here. Do you know how generous Norway are with their leave? Bloody hell if we had that here 😁
They very family orientated
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/anewlifeinnorway.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/norwegian-parental-benefits-vs-british-parental-benefits/amp
i'm envious of all the scandi countries. i think in sweden you get a year and a half.
with that said, the scandi countries have a much higher tax rate but i would pay it in a heart beat so much so that i am considering moving there if things go tits up here.click to expand
Agree completely! Where would you look at going? Ive often thought of going to Norway but i let the cold hold me back. Even here in UK i feel like im freezing and its nothing compare to temps in Norway. Brrr those temps are way low in winter and the darkness would depress me 😢. I wish i could put them "next" to Spain or somwhere warmer lol
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...
why do you want to know?
Just a minor "unrelated" topic on my thoughts as a mum. All this EU talk got me thinking if im looking at things different because of my company head office being in Norway who arnt part of EU and i think in the UK we are very fortunate with our maternity and paternity laws here. Do you know how generous Norway are with their leave? Bloody hell if we had that here 😁
They very family orientated
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/anewlifeinnorway.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/norwegian-parental-benefits-vs-british-parental-benefits/amp
i'm envious of all the scandi countries. i think in sweden you get a year and a half.
with that said, the scandi countries have a much higher tax rate but i would pay it in a heart beat so much so that i am considering moving there if things go tits up here.
Agree completely! Where would you look at going? Ive often thought of going to Norway but i let the cold hold me back. Even here in UK i feel like im freezing and its nothing compare to temps in Norway. Brrr those temps are way low in winter and the darkness would depress me 😢. I wish i could put them "next" to Spain or somwhere warmer lolclick to expand
in true libra style i keep changing my mind!
i go from ireland, to italy, to sweden to denmark to the netherlands or in my most extreme, iceland. ooh i would bloody love to live in iceland!!
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Who is in favor of bringing the monarchy back in 2019? Long live the queen.
sure, why not? when she starts paying her fair share of tax.
Talk of money. They all the same. What was first and formost on EUs agenda? How much money they getting. Divorce is so expensive lol
it is money that is owed. what does the uk do? try to leave without paying the bill. classy. they are still talking nonsense by saying we will withhold the money from the eu in some twisted kind of international blackmail.
Are you a mum? If you dont mind my asking...
why do you want to know?
Just a minor "unrelated" topic on my thoughts as a mum. All this EU talk got me thinking if im looking at things different because of my company head office being in Norway who arnt part of EU and i think in the UK we are very fortunate with our maternity and paternity laws here. Do you know how generous Norway are with their leave? Bloody hell if we had that here 😁
They very family orientated
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/anewlifeinnorway.wordpress.com/2013/12/04/norwegian-parental-benefits-vs-british-parental-benefits/amp
i'm envious of all the scandi countries. i think in sweden you get a year and a half.
with that said, the scandi countries have a much higher tax rate but i would pay it in a heart beat so much so that i am considering moving there if things go tits up here.
Agree completely! Where would you look at going? Ive often thought of going to Norway but i let the cold hold me back. Even here in UK i feel like im freezing and its nothing compare to temps in Norway. Brrr those temps are way low in winter and the darkness would depress me 😢. I wish i could put them "next" to Spain or somwhere warmer lol
in true libra style i keep changing my mind!
i go from ireland, to italy, to sweden to denmark to the netherlands or in my most extreme, iceland. ooh i would bloody love to live in iceland!!click to expand
Damn i loved NL when i was there. That would also be on my list for sure. We have an office in Rotterdam so could defo be top of the list now that you make me think about it. Have you been to Iceland before?
Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Damn i loved NL when i was there. That would also be on my list for sure. We have an office in Rotterdam so could defo be top of the list now that you make me think about it. Have you been to Iceland before?
oh, if you have a possible job opportunity you should definitely consider it!
never been to iceland but it looks amazing. have you been?
Posted by jeanePosted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Damn i loved NL when i was there. That would also be on my list for sure. We have an office in Rotterdam so could defo be top of the list now that you make me think about it. Have you been to Iceland before?
oh, if you have a possible job opportunity you should definitely consider it!
never been to iceland but it looks amazing. have you been?click to expand
No i have not. But you got so excited i thought you had lol. You right it looks amazing but too cold for me. Where have you travelled? Sorry if derailing your thread #gemini moon problems lol
Posted by jeanePosted by Mr_PinchyPosted by jeanePosted by Mr_Pinchy
Jeane idk if it'll make you feel better, but we did some simulations at work and the doomsday predictions of a 20-30 year recession that are being circulated in the press are most likely (90% + probability) hogwash.
the whole thing has me on edge to be honest. i'm just astounded at the phenomenal act of stupidity the country is inflicting on itself.
your words help though. 🙂
You know, the sentiment that some people in the UK have.... that far away semi-elected bureaucrats deciding on laws and regulations for a country they've never even been in is wrong.....they are not alone in thinking this might not be the best way to carry on forward.
Especially seeing how the EU handles disagreement with member states (sanctions threatened on Poland, Hungary, soft sellout of Italy so that their future, yet to be acquired debt interests become unsustainable. Or how they handle members in distress. Which would be Greece.
with no plan on how to go forward.
the only country without a trade deal. the only country solely operating on wto terms. terms which russia is ready to veto. rule makers, not rule takers but currently opting for either of two options where the uk would be rule takers. while risking manufacturing and agriculture for the pleasure.
lets not kid ourselves. it wasn't about i don't like how the the eu operate especially given the uk has (had) the 2nd largest number of votes at the table. don't like how they dealt with greece? the uk was party to those decisions.
of 35000 laws in this country, approx 4500 are shared with the eu. of those 4500, 72 laws are ones that imposed on the uk. eg, not having steroids in our foods, having livestock health checks, all workers regardless of origin having the same rights. etc etc.
most people voted to leave because in their view there were too many foreigners here. now we are looking between having medicines or food, the value of the pound has dropped, billions of pounds are leaving the country and people are losing their jobs but shit, we can't have people speaking foreign in the bus now can we?
this is a clusterfuck and theresa may who knew all of this from the start while she campaigned for remain still is leading us down a road that will make us worse off.click to expand
Well, jeane, that's quite the rant.
I'm gonna have to take a raincheck tho, longer than usual day at work and i'm not gonna exert myself too much with replying. It would take time to form it, write it, proof for typos etc etc.....next time!
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