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Why is Canada so much better than the US?
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Posted by xyinsaturnYeah I was in canada for about a week and after talking with someone
Canadian
We could do better.
As for healthcare, it depends who you ask I guess but perhaps in comparison we are the better option.
it's not as great as what it seems
but still better than the U.S.
we're not like France, Italy , Norway etc.......
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
Because gay marriage and weed use are stellar indicators of a nations progress. 😂😂😂
Posted by PeanutPunchBetter than the spineless barbie you got for sure. 😎Posted by Mr_PinchyMaybe we need more PM predators in office.
Because gay marriage and weed use are stellar indicators of a nations progress. 😂😂😂
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Posted by Adreamuponwaking
in terms of policy ( far more progressive)
and overall happiness of it's constituents
they legalized
Gay Marriage and Cannabis first...........
and they have better health care for example
why can't we get our sh*t together here in the U.S?
do you think population size has something to do with it?
Canada's population is just over 36 million.
the population of the state of CA alone is just under 40 million
it's very cold in canada though.
Posted by lisabethur8it is.Posted by Adreamuponwakingit's very cold in canada though.
in terms of policy ( far more progressive)
and overall happiness of it's constituents
they legalized
Gay Marriage and Cannabis first...........
and they have better health care for example
why can't we get our sh*t together here in the U.S?
do you think population size has something to do with it?
Canada's population is just over 36 million.
the population of the state of CA alone is just under 40 million
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hence the small population
But hey
they have Canada Goose
and
cold weather makes me want to get it on.
lol i was so horny in Toronto and there were a lot of hot Canadians
i could be confusing their politeness with hotness though lol
Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Posted by Mr_PinchyFiscal Policy wise yes
Because gay marriage and weed use are stellar indicators of a nations progress. 😂😂😂
do you know how much taxpayer money we have wasted and to continue to waste on prosecuting minor drug offenses?
and gay marriage in terms of equality yes is a huge indicator of social progress.
Posted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/click to expand
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/click to expand
Posted by AdreamuponwakingOnly reason why Singapore is No.6 in healthcare is cos they want us to work till we're 80 and one foot in the grave. Then when we're gone a few years after retirement they'll just keep what's left of our pension (provided we have no next of kin, which is highly probable considering how many people here shun marriage and children for career).Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/click to expand
Posted by Mr_PinchyPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
click to expand
#1. GDP doesn't really having any direct bearing on access to care.
that is strictly up to policy
Take Italy for example.
There are no jobs really in Italy. It's a huge problem.
Poverty is everywhere
but guess what ?
if you are poor and you are sick you won't likely die because you'll actually be able to see a doctor
unlike here in the U.S where people literally die everyday because of insurance denials by
physicians
we are also behind in a lot of groundbreaking fields in medicine because we have cut funding for research in these fields.
also going to medical school and college is extremely expensive especially compared to a lot of these countries so it is less accessible for large parts of the population which is also one of the reasons why we have a shortage.
Lastly you should know I have friends from the U.S who have gone to a couple of these countries that
I guess given your obvious bias you wouldn't believe are actually ranked higher than the U.S in terms of health care.
One couple I know in particular was visiting Oman ( ranked number 8) last year with with their child .....
long story short their child got sick and it was way easier for them to get the emergency care they needed than what it would have been like if it actually happened here in the U.S..
I also have Italian friends who come from working class families and are among the first to go to college in their family and they have confirmed that the healthcare system here is worse.
Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
click to expand
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
Posted by Adreamuponwakinglol you keep talking off your high horse but youre just clueless.Posted by Mr_PinchyPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
#1. GDP doesn't really having any direct bearing on access to care.
that is strictly up to policy
Take Italy for example.
There are no jobs really in Italy. It's a huge problem.
Poverty is everywhere
but guess what ?
if you are poor and you are sick you won't likely die because you'll actually be able to see a doctor
unlike here in the U.S where people literally die everyday because of insurance denials by
physicians
we are also behind in a lot of groundbreaking fields in medicine because we have cut funding for research in these fields.
also going to medical school and college is extremely expensive especially compared to a lot of these countries so it is less accessible for large parts of the population which is also one of the reasons why we have a shortage.
Lastly you should know I have friends from the U.S who have gone to a couple of these countries that
I guess given your obvious bias you wouldn't believe are actually ranked higher than the U.S in terms of health care.
One couple I know in particular was visiting Oman ( ranked number 8) last year with with their child .....
long story short their child got sick and it was way easier for them to get the emergency care they needed than what it would have been like if it actually happened here in the U.S..
I also have Italian friends who come from working class families and are among the first to go to college in their family and they have confirmed that the healthcare system here is worse.
click to expand
Its like you even believe yourself lol.
Woman i live in a country next to Italy, i know how it is there, i also know med school graduates who go to north African countries to give a helping hand so i also know second hand how it is there. They dont even have basic med supplies.
And here you are.....fresh with knowledge from Berkeley ivory tower where all common sense has long since evaporated.
btw in the real world, Italian labor statistics are back up at pre recession levels, while Italy is a fucked up country with rampant nepotism and clientelism to say there are no jobs is a stretch.
Like that time where you said to me Roman influence is gone from todays western world but really the whole legal system is based on Roman law. 😂😂😊
Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
click to expand
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
Posted by Ram416lolPosted by AdreamuponwakingOnly reason why Singapore is No.6 in healthcare is cos they want us to work till we're 80 and one foot in the grave. Then when we're gone a few years after retirement they'll just keep what's left of our pension (provided we have no next of kin, which is highly probable considering how many people here shun marriage and children for career).Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
click to expand
I want to go to Singapore for my Birthday this year.
I haven't been in a decade.
Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)click to expand
Posted by Adreamuponwakingit has changed a lot. The only thing that hasn't changed is it's still sterile like the inside of a hospital.Posted by Ram416lolPosted by AdreamuponwakingOnly reason why Singapore is No.6 in healthcare is cos they want us to work till we're 80 and one foot in the grave. Then when we're gone a few years after retirement they'll just keep what's left of our pension (provided we have no next of kin, which is highly probable considering how many people here shun marriage and children for career).Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
I want to go to Singapore for my Birthday this year.
I haven't been in a decade.
click to expand
Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lolclick to expand
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeSome Chicago city administration figure high up went to the UN this week and asked if they could send peacekeepers to Chicago. No joke.
Let's discuss how Canadians have less mental health problems and are much kinder than Americans
America ist fokked!!!
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitiveclick to expand
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
Posted by Mr_Pinchyyou don't live in Italy?Posted by Adreamuponwakinglol you keep talking off your high horse but youre just clueless.Posted by Mr_PinchyPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
#1. GDP doesn't really having any direct bearing on access to care.
that is strictly up to policy
Take Italy for example.
There are no jobs really in Italy. It's a huge problem.
Poverty is everywhere
but guess what ?
if you are poor and you are sick you won't likely die because you'll actually be able to see a doctor
unlike here in the U.S where people literally die everyday because of insurance denials by
physicians
we are also behind in a lot of groundbreaking fields in medicine because we have cut funding for research in these fields.
also going to medical school and college is extremely expensive especially compared to a lot of these countries so it is less accessible for large parts of the population which is also one of the reasons why we have a shortage.
Lastly you should know I have friends from the U.S who have gone to a couple of these countries that
I guess given your obvious bias you wouldn't believe are actually ranked higher than the U.S in terms of health care.
One couple I know in particular was visiting Oman ( ranked number 8) last year with with their child .....
long story short their child got sick and it was way easier for them to get the emergency care they needed than what it would have been like if it actually happened here in the U.S..
I also have Italian friends who come from working class families and are among the first to go to college in their family and they have confirmed that the healthcare system here is worse.
Its like you even believe yourself lol.
Woman i live in a country next to Italy, i know how it is there, i also know med school graduates who go to north African countries to give a helping hand so i also know second hand how it is there. They dont even have basic med supplies.
And here you are.....fresh with knowledge from Berkeley ivory tower where all common sense has long since evaporated.
btw in the real world, Italian labor statistics are back up at pre recession levels, while Italy is a fucked up country with rampant nepotism and clientelism to say there are no jobs is a stretch.
Like that time where you said to me Roman influence is gone from todays western world but really the whole legal system is based on Roman law. 😂😂😊
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living next to the country doesn't qualify you last time I checked.
In large parts of the US we DO NOT have basic supplies in rural areas.
Even in dense urban centers there is a lack of primary care doctors so people can't see anyone.
Now take the population of the U.S and compare it to one of those smaller North African countries like Morocco.
Morocco's population size is about the same as the state of CA.
Even if there was a higher percentage of people not receiving care which is not the case
there would be less people over all who receive do not receive care compared to the amount of people who do not receive care in the entire U.S.
A lot of people in CA btw have issues receiving care. I know because I'm one of them. As a matter of fact every member of my family is one of them Everybody who goes to my church is also one of them. Everybody from my grandmother's neighborhood is also one of them. All of the people I've worked with at community clinics are also one of them. People who are now only being served by "prime" programs are also one of them.
you get the picture......
you should also know that I'm pre-med because of the issue with access to care here in the states.
I have five years of recent experience working and conducting research at UCLA Medical school .
I've have three years of experience volunteering in community clinics.
Lastly health disparities is literally my field.
All of the stuff I'm sharing with you isn't my opinion .
These are widely accepted facts.
Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
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anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Posted by Ram416is the food still good?Posted by Adreamuponwakingit has changed a lot. The only thing that hasn't changed is it's still sterile like the inside of a hospital.Posted by Ram416lolPosted by AdreamuponwakingOnly reason why Singapore is No.6 in healthcare is cos they want us to work till we're 80 and one foot in the grave. Then when we're gone a few years after retirement they'll just keep what's left of our pension (provided we have no next of kin, which is highly probable considering how many people here shun marriage and children for career).Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
I want to go to Singapore for my Birthday this year.
I haven't been in a decade.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm just saying I agree with 1 point of the OP. The population in America is too high which is a problem. There are too many people with too many problems. I agree with that 100% .Posted by SoulWutPosted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
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I've actually had a realization recently. Sometimes it's better off to be dead then keep living. Not saying I want to kill myself, but so many people live life just using resources while never giving back. That's why I've been donating to every charity I possibly can. So when the point comes where I die I can feel happy about it. Like my life wasn't completely meaninless. Too many people work their every day lives apart of the system just taking and taking but never giving back. What a worthless and selfish life that is..
I just hope eventually humanity gets to the point where everyone helps eachother. Like the world powers can stop with the whole "Best in the world thing" and focus on the world as a whole. Like fixing world hunger, and all the suffering humans and nature alike face. I don't want to picture a world where this earth become extinct due to petty territories and differences. I much rather picture a future where we settle all our differences and make a world that is stable and comfortable for all faces of life.
Posted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
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Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school.
Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it.
I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.
Posted by Soulbut even going back and actually using your theoryPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
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Canadian doctors only make slightly less than US doctors especially when you calculate the cost of living in.
Medical school also cost a lot less.
So even with your theory it makes sense that Canada is ranked higher than the U.S
which was the original topic
Posted by AdreamuponwakingYeah I’m not sure why he’s putting doctors on a pedestal?? The ones who make a killing are the cosmetic surgeons and majority of that is voluntary procedures.Posted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school.
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Posted by AdreamuponwakingLook I don't even want to argue anymore. I much rather discuss ways we can make the world better as a whole. I rather put these petty differences aside and focus on the future for everyone. None of this even matters. What matters is figuring out ways to work together. I don't disagree with you whatsoever. Canada is a great place. I can't deny that.Posted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school.
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Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeePersonally I don't disagree with that. Majority of my friends will argue with me on that topic, but at heart i don't believe people should suffer while other flourish. I makes me feel kind of sick.
@soul
Agreed but I'm more hopeful about distribution of wealth
Posted by SoulIt’s not a brag. It’s reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
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Maybe in your town the highest paid profession is a doctor. But that’s not the case in my town. So speaking of the bigger picture...open your eyes and see it.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeObviously. Just like you don’t need a medical degree to make a living and get into the gated community. Or whatever his argument was for healthcare being expensive.
600k can but you 3 homes in the south
Not everyone is living the Coast nightmares.
Why my boy who is a doctor lives in Houston and refuses to move
He travels to Alaska for work and Louisiana
Making coins
Posted by LadyNeptuneHelp me see it then. What is the highest paid profession in your neck of the woods?Posted by SoulIt’s not a brag. It’s reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
Maybe in your town the highest paid profeission is a doctor. But that’s not the case in my town. So speaking of the bigger picture...open your eyes and see it.click to expand
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeWhen you are a full fledged doctor you can make at least 150 kPosted by AdreamuponwakingBeing a doctor is a losing endeavor these days but 80kPosted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school
Lol who are you kidding
Doctors make 150k at minimum
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but that doesn't happen directly after passing multiple boards and graduating from medical school.
To actually practice medicine you have to be matched to and complete what is called a residency program at a hospital which can be anywhere from 3-5 years long.
Sometimes you have to do a fellowship after that and then even additional training ( e.g- some specialties that involve surgery which are the most lucrative ).
On the other hand you can get your Bachelors in Nursing and then do two additional years of grad school and become a Nurse practitioner and with only a little over time make around 140k at 24 or 25.
The primary care doctor will be closer to 30 before they see that kind of money and most likely will also be in more debt.
Nurse Anesthetist make more than most primary care doctors also
though malpractice insurance rates are higher for them.
Bigger picture. If they are happier than us, have less debt than us, better healthcare, better schools, more affordable living...hmmm sounds like a lot of better to me.
This isn’t really news though. America has been declining ever since the Second World War.
This isn’t really news though. America has been declining ever since the Second World War.
Posted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
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Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
When i write "LMAO @ I think" im actually mocking your inability to do so but eh....lets just put this together with the rest of the stuff for which your head is too high in the clouds to get an accurate understanding of.
I support the mentally disenfranchised tho, so np. 😂😂😂
Posted by LadyNeptuneExactly.Posted by AdreamuponwakingYeah I’m not sure why he’s putting doctors on a pedestal?? The ones who make a killing are the cosmetic surgeons and majority of that is voluntary procedures.Posted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school.
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Maybe he's watched too many episodes of Nip/Tuck.
Dermatology is also another lucrative specialty ( doctors make around 400k a year after extensive training) and again because most of their procedures are cosmetic and thus deemed elective procedures and are not covered by insurance.
Dermatologist also pretty much work 9-5 unlike most heavy surgery based specialities e.g- cardiothoracic surgeons or orthopedic surgeons who make only up to 100-200k more.
Posted by SoulPosted by LadyNeptuneHelp me see it then. What is the highest paid profession in your neck of the woods?Posted by SoulIt’s not a brag. It’s reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
Maybe in your town the highest paid profeission is a doctor. But that’s not the case in my town. So speaking of the bigger picture...open your eyes and see it.
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It’s hollyweird so you have actors, directors, studio heads, etc etc.
But outside of the entertainment world...
Attorneys
Lawyers
Engineers (nuclear, aerospace, etc. etc.)
Restraunteers
Architect
Marketing managers, Financial managers
Developers (I work with these guys who develop 6-10 properties a year and net 600k and upwards profit per development)
Advertising
General Contractors
I could go on and on....probably a lot I’m leaving out. And many of these industries don’t require a decade of school and 250k in student fees.
Posted by Mr_PinchyI slept with a risky chick once and had some weird symptoms some time after. To make a long story short I though I had an std, called the doctor, and they got me in for blood tests that day. Luckily they came back negative.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
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That's how American doctors work. They will literally see you the day you think you have a problem.
Posted by LadyNeptuneI don't disagree with that at all. Collage is the biggest scam known to man imo.Posted by SoulPosted by LadyNeptuneHelp me see it then. What is the highest paid profession in your neck of the woods?Posted by SoulIt’s not a brag. It’s reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
Maybe in your town the highest paid profeission is a doctor. But that’s not the case in my town. So speaking of the bigger picture...open your eyes and see it.
It’s hollyweird so you have actors, directors, studio heads, etc etc.
But outside of the entertainment world...
Attorneys
Lawyers
Engineers (nuclear, aerospace, etc. etc.)
Restraunteers
Architect
Marketing managers, Financial managers
Developers (I work with these guys who develop 6-10 properties a year and net 600k and upwards profit per development)
Advertising
General Contractors
I could go on and on....probably a lot I’m leaving out. And many of these industries don’t require a decade of school and 250k in student fees.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI know two as a matter of fact.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAgreed but no nurse practitioner is making that kind of money at 25Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeWhen you are a full fledged doctor you can make at least 150 kPosted by AdreamuponwakingBeing a doctor is a losing endeavor these days but 80kPosted by SoulLOL you didn't debunk anything.Posted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Let alone the World Health Organization's ranking system.
and that who paragraph you wrote is a mix of conjecture and inferences based on opinion.
How many doctors do you know personally?
I have a close family friend who I consider to be an uncle who is a Doctor.
I've also worked with doctors.
I have friend who are now doctors.
You don't actually make that much money ( there are nurses for example that can make just as much with half of the schooling) unless you specialize.
and even those who specialize don't make any real money until at least 6-8+ years after completing medical school.
All residents regardless of specialty make about 60k+ a year for at least 2-3 years after completing medical school.
It could go up to almost 80k after 5 or 6 years for a chief resident in some super competitive specialty.
But that isn't really that much at all. I have friends that only have Bachelors degrees who make 80k or more.
Also most people go into at least 100-200k in debt to complete medical school
Lol who are you kidding
Doctors make 150k at minimum
but that doesn't happen directly after passing multiple boards and graduating from medical school.
To actually practice medicine you have to be matched to and complete what is called a residency program at a hospital which can be anywhere from 3-5 years long.
Sometimes you have to do a fellowship after that and then even additional training ( e.g- some specialties that involve surgery which are the most lucrative ).
On the other hand you can get your Bachelors in Nursing and then do two additional years of grad school and become a Nurse practitioner and with only a little over time make around 140k at 24 or 25.
The primary care doctor will be closer to 30 before they see that kind of money and most likely will also be in more debt.
Nurse Anesthetist make more than most primary care doctors also
though malpractice insurance rates are higher for them.
Believe me
There's ppl who put in years that don't get those jobs
It's not that simpleclick to expand
The difference though is they went to a highly Competitive nursing program which places students in Hospitals that will definitely hire them. 95% of people in the particular nursing program have offers their junior year of undergrad. Grad students often have a job well before their conclusion of their final year.
I also know of a many programs in the same state that matriculate a large amount of students who aren't able to find work with a BSN.
It depends were you go.
Out of three women I know who are nurses two of them already own a house in LA and they are not even 30 yet.
The only one who doesn't just has a Bachelors in nursing and is only 22 years old.lol
One has a Masters. The other has her PhD.
I want to move.
I'm in Georgia.
ATL
I'm in Georgia.
ATL
Posted by SoulYoure comparing 10 hour high risk surgery with blood tests? I dont get it? Im sure i can get my blood tested immediately too.Posted by Mr_PinchyI slept with a risky chick once and had some weird symptoms some time after. To make a long story short I though I had an std, called the doctor, and they got me in for blood tests that day. Luckily they came back negative.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
That's how American doctors work. They will literally see you the day you think you have a problem.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI’m not belittling the profession. It’s a very noble job. One that I’m far too squeamish for.Posted by LadyNeptuneDoctors is still the best profession out therePosted by SoulIt’s not a brag. It’s reality.Posted by LadyNeptuneMaybe it is. Feel free to brag all you want. Now that I've been thinking i see the bigger picture and that means nothing to me.Posted by SoulLol @ 600k for a house being perceived by you as an expensive home. There are 1bd condos going for more than that here.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeI'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, I'm just saying a surgeon in America is living in a gated community in a 600k+ home.Posted by SoulA professor making 300k can be bankrupted if they get cancer in AmericaPosted by AdreamuponwakingIt really doesn't though. That statistic has no real proof. It's just a biased opinion some random person made. Let me debunk your theory though with actual fact rather then just opinion.Posted by Soulthe random statistic debunks your cheaper care worse doctor theory lol.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAnd? That random statistic should make me feel what? Ashamed? Is that your motive?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
i'm thinking about Univ. of Toronto for medical school lol
American doctors live within the highest class of our society. They make the most money within the top professions, and live in the highest class homes. Homes that require large sums of money to manage. So when they go to work they go willing to do more then best of their ability. Because their own life style depends on it. Which is why America has some of the best doctors in the entire world. It's because they are happy and satisfied with their job, and their finances. You get treatment quick, because like i said you get what you pay for.
Now looking at other countries where doctors make much less do to free health-care, or less schooling the doctors are less satisfied, and their work ethic shows it. You can bring up any random statistic from the internet, but that doesn't change the fact that even the most unhealthy of Americans love longer due to the advanced health-care, assuming they have the funds to afford it.
That's not kosher
The costs are disgustingly prohibitive
Like the OP mentioned the population in America is huge, so the fact is not everyone is going to make it out. If the government decides you aren't worthy of living you are pretty much dead to the system.
It's much less the fault of the governmen imo and more the fault of the general population. If you can't afford babies then don't make them. Genocide is obviously illegal and super messed up, and no normal minded person on earth wants to see ww3. So the population needs to take matters into their own hands and stop reproducing if they can't afford it.
Maybe in your town the highest paid profession is a doctor. But that’s not the case in my town. So speaking of the bigger picture...open your eyes and see it.
Look up fortune or businessweek
Computer science second
I don't know why you're belittling the profession
I find it very odd.
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I’m belittling souls reasoning that healthcare is expensive and out of reach for the average joe because doctors buy all the expensive gated housing in town and need to afford the mortgage. Seems ridiculous.
Posted by Mr_PinchyIt's the same here is what I'm saying.Posted by SoulYoure comparing 10 hour high risk surgery with blood tests? I dont get it? Im sure i can get my blood tested immediately too.Posted by Mr_PinchyI slept with a risky chick once and had some weird symptoms some time after. To make a long story short I though I had an std, called the doctor, and they got me in for blood tests that day. Luckily they came back negative.Posted by AdreamuponwakingAre we talking about Canada or America atm?Posted by Mr_Pinchyyeah that was sarcasm.Posted by AdreamuponwakingLMAO @ i think 😂😂😂 Have you ever been to Morocco? I have.Posted by Mr_PinchyI think you think you are using your critical thinking skills when in fact you are just invoking your own cultural biases that have been ingrained in you through social conditioning and false media representationPosted by AdreamuponwakingDo you seriously believe Canada has a worse healthcare system than lets say Morocco?Posted by Soulbut Canada literally is ranked the 6th happiest country
That's opinion.
It's pretty basic for a human to love where they come from more then other places. Every country feels they are better then the others. I understand.
Cheaper medical bills, but worse doctors. Also the waiting list to even get medical attention is ridiculous. In the end you get what you pay for.
Also a simple book that cost 10 $ here is 20 there. The taxes are much higher. So in the end it has its flaws to blind people from the impression it actually gives, just like everywhere else in the world.
and while small commodities are slightly more expensive
people get paid more and things like Tuition and Housing cost less.
and Canada was ranked as having better health care than the US
in fact here are the official 36 countries that have better healthcare
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
taken from -
http://thepatientfactor.com/canadian-health-care-information/world-health-organizations-ranking-of-the-worlds-health-systems/
Or bankrupt Greece where ppl were lining up in soup lines two years ago when the crisis hit apex?
Apply some critical thinking and try not to disseminate any and all propaganda that is served to you.
Or are you the one with ivy league edumacashion whom ive asked once already if they dont teach that for premium tuition?
This list isn't really subjective.
One of the most critical things that determines the ranking by the WHO is access to care for everyone
which means getting seen by someone and treated.
Another critical thing that determines the ranking is positive health outcomes ( which means being treated successfully)
anywho
I want to go.Riads are sick!
Have you ever been to rural parts of America?
e.g- Native American reservations?
Or even destitute urban areas like Detroit or Flint Michigan?
Anyhow, an example. I live in Slovenia, ranked just below US and ofc Morocco in that list.
I have a pisces buddy, gym freak who got back problems. He went to the doctor, they put him on priority list after first examinations. He went to surgery 3 months after diagnosis, has an equivalent of your college tuition worth(200k€) of medical work and steel supporting his backbone now.
I should add he is officialy unemployed, on welfare for 10 years. It cost him nothing and he got 5 years of 2 weeks spa as rehab free of charge.
I dont think thats possible in the US let alone Morocco. So much for the list.
And yes , living next to somewhere gives you access to better info as opposed to living across the Atlantic ie Italy.
That's how American doctors work. They will literally see you the day you think you have a problem.
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and they have better health care for example
why can't we get our sh*t together here in the U.S?
do you think population size has something to do with it?
Canada's population is just over 36 million.
the population of the state of CA alone is just under 40 million