
Andalusia
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Posted by TwodrinksLol, or lack or air signs. (That's what I have).
My Aqua doesn't know how. I have to tell him in explicit detail..."when we go to sleep at night it's kind of customary to give each other a good night kiss and say goodnight instead of just falling asleep without speaking"
I'll write a book later entitled "Teaching air signs to emote"

Posted by tizianiSo we can't be ourselves?
Yeah, people can get too comfortable being by themselves. I certainly did at one point.

Posted by TwodrinksLove this. From one Aqua lover to another. š
My Aqua doesn't know how. I have to tell him in explicit detail..."when we go to sleep at night it's kind of customary to give each other a good night kiss and say goodnight instead of just falling asleep without speaking"
I'll write a book later entitled "Teaching air signs to emote"

Posted by tizianiI asked if we can't be ourselves while in relationships.Posted by TeenaWhat do you mean?Posted by tizianiSo we can't be ourselves?
Yeah, people can get too comfortable being by themselves. I certainly did at one point.click to expand

Posted by AndalusiaYes, for a variety of reasons. The odds are higher that this happens because you're not dating someone who is on par with you on simillar behavior, aka a mismatch (royal you)
For someone to not know how to be in a relationship?
Posted by AndalusiaYes, but it's more likely to become estranged, and alien to partnership in general, not necessarily too independent. People will find a way to incorporate the partner in their lives and understand the dynamics. If that doesn't happen, again a mismatch.
Is it possible to be *too independent*?click to expand




Posted by cheekyfaerieI think it's "easier" if both parties are relationship "rusty."Posted by DamnataA mix of this and what Twodrinks said for us.Posted by AndalusiaYes, for a variety of reasons. The odds are higher that this happens because you're not dating someone who is on par with you on simillar behavior, aka a mismatch (royal you)
For someone to not know how to be in a relationship?
Posted by AndalusiaYes, but it's more likely to become estranged, and alien to partnership in general, not necessarily too independent. People will find a way to incorporate the partner in their lives and understand the dynamics. If that doesn't happen, again a mismatch.
Is it possible to be *too independent*?
Been a long time since either of us were in a real relationship, but it helps that compatibility's off the charts. Nothing feels forced. So many people that come here for relationship advice are trying to put a square peg in a round hole.click to expand

Posted by WhiteChocolateHow so?
Sounds to me like you need healing.

Posted by LadyNeptuneI find this perspective intriguing.. I will come back to this.
@andalusia
Chances are your SO finds your independent nature extremely sexy and was drawn to you, in part, because of it. Don't try to fix it if it ain't broke.

Posted by WhiteChocolate#not buying itPosted by Andalusia#justbeingasmartassPosted by WhiteChocolateHow so?
Sounds to me like you need healing.click to expand

Posted by cheekyfaerieWhodatbe?Posted by AndalusiaThink he was just channeling Heartonmysleevesag's thread.Posted by WhiteChocolate#not buying itPosted by Andalusia#justbeingasmartassPosted by WhiteChocolateHow so?
Sounds to me like you need healing.
You have something on your mind grapes. It's just either not fully formed yet or too problematic to type out right now.click to expand

Posted by WhiteChocolateahahahahahaha.
*facepalm*

Posted by Damnataš¢Posted by WhiteChocolateahahahahahaha.
*facepalm*click to expand

Posted by Andalusianot laughing at you sugarplum.Posted by Damnataš¢Posted by WhiteChocolateahahahahahaha.
*facepalm*click to expand
Posted by Twodrinkswhat the fuckā
My Aqua doesn't know how. I have to tell him in explicit detail..."when we go to sleep at night it's kind of customary to give each other a good night kiss and say goodnight instead of just falling asleep without speaking"
I'll write a book later entitled "Teaching air signs to emote"
Posted by LadyNeptunei agree 100%
@andalusia
Chances are your SO finds your independent nature extremely sexy and was drawn to you, in part, because of it. Don't try to fix it if it ain't broke.
Posted by Twodrinksi do forget at times, well alot of times that ALOT of couples out there NEED "rules".Posted by lisabethur8CongratsPosted by Twodrinkswhat the fuckā
My Aqua doesn't know how. I have to tell him in explicit detail..."when we go to sleep at night it's kind of customary to give each other a good night kiss and say goodnight instead of just falling asleep without speaking"
I'll write a book later entitled "Teaching air signs to emote"
my husband has LACK OF AIR, and he doesn't do this.
if he has to "Customary" do the kissing and goodnite thing every single night because he has to.....it's robotic.
if he's tired as hell i dont expect anything out of him but he does expect me to be by his side every freaking night and he loves the cuddles.click to expand
Posted by Twodrinksso weird. but isn't that what you were doing when you posted it the first time?? you just ASSUME all of them are like that. I already know long enough with astrology since i dont get out much that people are different.Posted by lisabethur8There are no rules and I was being facetious. I don't recite what is customary to him. I just tell him to give me a kiss.Posted by Twodrinksi do forget at times, well alot of times that ALOT of couples out there NEED "rules".Posted by lisabethur8CongratsPosted by Twodrinkswhat the fuckā
My Aqua doesn't know how. I have to tell him in explicit detail..."when we go to sleep at night it's kind of customary to give each other a good night kiss and say goodnight instead of just falling asleep without speaking"
I'll write a book later entitled "Teaching air signs to emote"
my husband has LACK OF AIR, and he doesn't do this.
if he has to "Customary" do the kissing and goodnite thing every single night because he has to.....it's robotic.
if he's tired as hell i dont expect anything out of him but he does expect me to be by his side every freaking night and he loves the cuddles.
Arguing/debating with you is like debating with my Aqua...you're almost completely oblivious to your own behaviors and then counterattack instead of trying to understand/empathize the other persons point of view at all. It's extremely annoying and one of the traits of Aqua that grates my nerves.click to expand
Posted by Twodrinksthat's good. stay away from me then.Posted by lisabethur8Or you could come to terms with the fact that aquas don't have the warmest personalities which you pretty much single handidly prove. Even your own responses on dxp are "robotic"
anyway for me, it's fake. but for others it's NOT fake. I have to remember that.... it's hard but every couple s different.
i have to stop and think and not be so emotionally reactive to stuff. So no offense to those who love rules.click to expand
Posted by Twodrinksi can see through your bullshit. and using astrology to twist it.Posted by lisabethur8This post for example. What even is this? Is this snark? You have to make a mental note that other people are different from you? Lol. "Must. Remember. Other. People. Have. Emotions. Too. Just different from mine? How odd." Way to showcase your empathy Aqua sign!
anyway for me, it's fake. but for others it's NOT fake. I have to remember that.... it's hard but every couple s different.
i have to stop and think and not be so emotionally reactive to stuff. So no offense to those who love rules.click to expand

Posted by Twodrinksyou seem to care alot about me.Posted by lisabethur8Except it's not bullshit. You're one of the most contrived and robotic posters on dxp. Aside from offering helpful astrological information in a way that I read in my head as rainman...I've never once read any posts from you that even remotely come across as a genuine or sincere display of any emotion. Except when you're arguing with people about how emotional and warm aquas can be.Posted by Twodrinksi can see through your bullshit. and using astrology to twist it.Posted by lisabethur8This post for example. What even is this? Is this snark? You have to make a mental note that other people are different from you? Lol. "Must. Remember. Other. People. Have. Emotions. Too. Just different from mine? How odd." Way to showcase your empathy Aqua sign!
anyway for me, it's fake. but for others it's NOT fake. I have to remember that.... it's hard but every couple s different.
i have to stop and think and not be so emotionally reactive to stuff. So no offense to those who love rules.
boring.
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Posted by TwodrinksPosted by lisabethur8Because im a venus in aries and detachment doesn't bother me...but im still going to call it what it is. He's not cold per se but he's not as openly warm and expressive as you'd like to claim aquas to be.Posted by Twodrinksyou seem to care alot about me.Posted by lisabethur8Except it's not bullshit. You're one of the most contrived and robotic posters on dxp. Aside from offering helpful astrological information in a way that I read in my head as rainman...I've never once read any posts from you that even remotely come across as a genuine or sincere display of any emotion. Except when you're arguing with people about how emotional and warm aquas can be.Posted by Twodrinksi can see through your bullshit. and using astrology to twist it.Posted by lisabethur8This post for example. What even is this? Is this snark? You have to make a mental note that other people are different from you? Lol. "Must. Remember. Other. People. Have. Emotions. Too. Just different from mine? How odd." Way to showcase your empathy Aqua sign!
anyway for me, it's fake. but for others it's NOT fake. I have to remember that.... it's hard but every couple s different.
i have to stop and think and not be so emotionally reactive to stuff. So no offense to those who love rules.
boring.
and you are with an aqua but you keep complaining about him and how cold he is. If you are with a cold man why the hell are you with himā
all you do is attack about the signs/placements that i am. and about how your bf is this sign and how cold he is. it makes me wonder how you a really are as a person talking shit about your bf like that.
Furthermore, you're the one who jumped in this thread and every other thread for that matter...acting like an authority. No, every relationship is not like yours. And every relationship that is different is not "faulty".
Be thankful you have aquas like feby and others who are far more personable and friendly and genuinely warm because you're not exactly the best spokesperson for aquas.click to expand

Posted by DamnataWhat is an MBTI?
What is your MBTI Mel?

Posted by elllesqueNot sure exactly.. wine was responsible for me *posting* about it, but the actual trigger?
can I ask you what triggered this feeling?

Posted by elllesqueYou mean you cant??! When did they take that away?Posted by AndalusiaI thought maybe that was it (not the wine š)....I wish I could unhide posts now...lol.Posted by elllesqueNot sure exactly.. wine was responsible for me *posting* about it, but the actual trigger?
can I ask you what triggered this feeling?
Probably because there's a guy in my life I have feelings for and I'm kind of seeing some of my "issues" or reservations mirrored back from him. Caps and Virgos - or at least he and I - really are a lot alike.. especially when it comes to emoting, it seems.click to expand

Posted by LadyOfRebirthI relate to the self reliance thing. I'm not used to asking for much. I'm working on it, but since I'm unpracticed, I fear either over compensating and asking/sharing too much, or sounding whiny or negative.Posted by AndalusiaYes.
For someone to not know how to be in a relationship?
Because if so, I think that's what I'm experiencing now in myself.
Is it possible to be *too independent*?
In my experience though, it had more to do with not allowing people to help me. Even in hardships I'd rather suffer than ask someone for help. Self sufficiency to an extreme.
My Virgo pointed this out to me, him being the helper that he is really struggled with this aspect of mine. It wasn't that I didn't trust him to help me, but because of my life experiences I became really self reliant. He felt like he wasn't much help to me and that bothered him a lot. I didn't want him to feel that way so I decided to allow myself to receive his help. Might sound pathetic but it was much harder than I expected. I'm still self sufficient but now I allow myself to depend more on people now.click to expand

Posted by elllesqueI read it. In my case I really do think it's a mixture of both he and i. I don't get the sense I'm being taken for a ride. But I've been wrong before, lol.
well, I had to go into "more"....lol


Posted by Andalusia
For someone to not know how to be in a relationship?

Posted by elllesqueUggh I just don't know!
You may not be taken for a ride, I just have concern of his previous disclaimer....only because I've experienced the fall out from that.
However, you are a virgo and I am a scorpio.....so, his approach may make more sense to you.
I just found, in my experience, that was a way for him to have his cake and eat it too....and I'm not just talking about sexual relations. I have experienced where all the motions and actions appeared as we were in a relationship or working towards a relationship but when the rubber hit the road (at the point where a situation came up where he was expected to acknowledge this)....I was sorely disappointed. It felt like a carpet being pulled from underneath me. At that point, the relationship (or whatever we were participating in) was beyond repair.
Prior to that happening, I was almost always on a level of confusion because, like your experience, the same types of phrases were uttered...."I don't get close to anyone."...and in hindsight, I can go back and remember other tell tale signs as well.
It sucks to have to be so guarded and when you aren't naturally guarded....and start feeling like you have to be...it can create this internal turmoil of..."Well, maybe I don't know how to be in a relationship."
When a relationship is naturally forming and both people are on the same page...which I experienced with a partner *after* that experience (also a cap).....you don't have those feelings. I promise š


Posted by Andalusiahttp://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.aspPosted by DamnataWhat is an MBTI?
What is your MBTI Mel?click to expand

Posted by Andalusia
For someone to not know how to be in a relationship?
Because if so, I think that's what I'm experiencing now in myself.
Is it possible to be *too independent*?

Posted by elllesqueYou can share as much as you want. I welcome the insight.
and to add to my thoughts (and then I'll stop, promise).....
If I were to ever attempt another relationship with a cap (or anyone for that matter....lol....I'm currently wearing my 'invisible cloak so men cannot see me').....I would most definitely look back at my prior experiences....and because there was such a contrast in the courting process....one very negative and one very positive....I should be well aware whether to invest my time or not. I think it will grant me the opportunity to pick up my marbles and go home a lot faster to avoid a lot of heartache.
but you are a virgo and you may do things similar to a cap because you have that element of earth as something in common. I'm just an emotionally challenged scorpio š

Posted by HeartI actually am the third of 10 children, lol šPosted by AndalusiaDid you grow up as an only child? Because I notice people with siblings don't have this issue.
For someone to not know how to be in a relationship?
Because if so, I think that's what I'm experiencing now in myself.
Is it possible to be *too independent*?
I've always been independent, but now at 23 it makes me feel lonely. Sometimes it takes me longer to get things done because I have to bite my pride to ask for help. I enjoy being self-sufficient but just the presence of the people I care about is enough. My ideal relationship is where the two of us spend hours merely talking, sharing wine and pizza. As long as we're both loyal, respectful, and have our own friends and careers.click to expand

Posted by DamnataPosted by Andalusiahttp://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp<div class="bqfade">click to expandPosted by DamnataWhat is an MBTI?
What is your MBTI Mel?

Posted by AndalusiaINTJ according to that link.Posted by DamnataI'm taking this when I get home!Posted by Andalusiahttp://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.aspPosted by DamnataWhat is an MBTI?
What is your MBTI Mel?click to expand

Posted by AndalusiaYou're in good company with Rabbit.Posted by AndalusiaINTJ according to that link.Posted by DamnataI'm taking this when I get home!Posted by Andalusiahttp://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.aspPosted by DamnataWhat is an MBTI?
What is your MBTI Mel?click to expand


Posted by DamnataWhat's your personality type, Delphi?
Over time, INTJās mate may become frustrated with having learned so little about their partnerās true self. Patience is a key factor in this type of relationship because āstrategistsā place a lot of value on their independence; any excessive pushing or attempts to drag information from this individual will only make them strengthen their internal walls (and develop a healthy amount of resentment against such a disrespectful tactic).
Also, this:
http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=50427
(i am cheating on dxp with another forum with mbti types..getting really interested in this)
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/11/538816/
http://personalitycafe.com/intj-forum-scientists/

Posted by DamnataI'm an INTJ, and that was probably the most accurate description I've read about us in relationships.
Over time, INTJās mate may become frustrated with having learned so little about their partnerās true self. Patience is a key factor in this type of relationship because āstrategistsā place a lot of value on their independence; any excessive pushing or attempts to drag information from this individual will only make them strengthen their internal walls (and develop a healthy amount of resentment against such a disrespectful tactic).
Also, this:
http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=50427
(i am cheating on dxp with another forum with mbti types..getting really interested in this)
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2015/11/538816/
http://personalitycafe.com/intj-forum-scientists/



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Because if so, I think that's what I'm experiencing now in myself.
Is it possible to be *too independent*?