Just curious...

How many girls or your friends here sleep with a guy they have just met on their first time together?

And guys if you dare to answer "Does this make you think any less of them?"


I ask as I've noticed recently a few friends and aquaintances that have met someone that night and slept together, no judgement intended but just find it curious. Mostly I haven't seen a solid union from it...except one gf who has met someone younger and he seems totally besotted with her and visa versa...fingers crossed! Another friend has had a dry spell, over a year and is really wanting to get laid but in saying that she also wants someone permanent.

If I want to, I do.

I don't buy into society's insistence that women need to hide, tone down, or snuff out their natural sex drive in order to not be "thought badly of" by others. If the chemistry and desire are there, go for it if you want to. If you want to wait, be my guest. If that makes someone think badly of you, trust me - they weren't the right person for you anyway. Find someone with values more like your own, instead of trying to mold/change yourself or another to fit a different set of standards.

But by the same token, if you're going to start a sexual relationship right away, DO NOT confuse it with love, like a lot of women do. Just because he took you to bed doesn't mean he wants to drag you to the altar. Sex is sex, love is love.

And any man who dares to think badly of a girl who slept with him right away...
LMAO, how stupid can you get with your ridiculous double standards?!

I do whatever I want to do. I don't let society or societal "norms" dictate what I want to do. I do what I FEEL like doing, and I am not coerced, guilted, manhandled, etc into doing anything I don't want to do. I figure as long as both parties are consenting adults, they can do whatever they want to do - whenever they want to do it, as long as they are both on the same page. And as Nefer so aptly stated, "But by the same token, if you're going to start a sexual relationship right away, DO NOT confuse it with love, like a lot of women do. Just because he took you to bed doesn't mean he wants to drag you to the altar. Sex is sex, love is love."

Wide set vagina

Nefer: "I don't buy into society's insistence that women need to hide, tone down, or snuff out their natural sex drive in order to not be "thought badly of" by others."

USCTaurusgal: "I do whatever I want to do. I don't let society or societal "norms" dictate what I want to do. I do what I FEEL like doing, and I am not coerced, guilted, manhandled, etc into doing anything I don't want to do. I figure as long as both parties are consenting adults, they can do whatever they want to do - whenever they want to do it, as long as they are both on the same page. And as Nefer so aptly stated, "But by the same token, if you're going to start a sexual relationship right away, DO NOT confuse it with love, like a lot of women do. Just because he took you to bed doesn't mean he wants to drag you to the altar. Sex is sex, love is love."

Wow...U guys just made me proud of DXP! I can't believe I'm reading this right now!!!

I believe that most women's problems stem from lack of sex, and that lack of sex comes from worrying about the "status quo" of their peers. I made SOOO many topics about social binding it isn't funny, and I'm happy to see that there are still some powerful women that can stand against the whole social dictatorship.

Sex is sex, love is love...USCTaurusgal there was NO way you could've said that any better.

Anyway, staying on topic, I know a couple people men and women that love to have sex with people they just met up with...and to me that's just telling me that they're freakin human. When you're hungry, you deal with it. When you have a sickness, you deal with it. When you're horny...what do you do— Deal with it...one way or another. That my friends, is just living life.

@ BigD56 - well, I can't take credit for the "sex is sex, love is love" quote, cause' Nefer originally said it, but I agreed 150% !

But, with all of this being said, I also don't think there is anything wrong with those individuals who have chosen to wait to fall in love/get married, etc (not that they care what I think - lol). It's all about personal choices and decisions that suit the individuals. They shouldn't be made to feel bad for their choice to wait; and those who are chosing to do their thang shouldn't feel bad about that either.

"sex is sex, love is love" - So not true, maybe for you but not for others.

Posted by The-Dream
"sex is sex, love is love" - So not true, maybe for you but not for others.

I am not going to put words into Nefer's mouth, but what I got from the entire post was that oftentimes women can confuse sex with love, and sometimes it just "is what it is - sex." That's not to say you can't have sex w/love (obviously), but just because (some) people have sex, does not mean they are in love.

How many girls or your friends here sleep with a guy they have just met on their first time together?

I'm going to go against the grain and say that I would not sleep with a guy during our first time together. There's just no way I would do that. It has nothing to do with society but everything to do with me ^_^.

I guess it depends on your sexual drive, I'm not over eager like that I must say. I don't have that 'drive' to just bone haha. Now, I love sex, don't get me wrong here but on my terms. Theres nothing wrong with sleeping with someone you've just met but its not my thing.

Plus, I look at sex differently -- some people look at sex the same way the look at taking a piss, I don't look at it that way.

Also, as a woman, I think I suffer more from lack of emotional containment, instead of the latter.

Posted by The-Dream
"sex is sex, love is love" - So not true, maybe for you but not for others.

I simply can't put my body all over some stranger haha. For crying-out-sideways, I don't know where they've been :/

I am prob going to catch hell for saying this, but I view sex a little differently. At least for myself. I personally do not have sex until I'm in a monogomous trusting and stable relationship. I understand that everyone (including myself) has needs but for me I rather be intimate with some one who I love. Now, I do understand that some ppl look at sex and love as two completely different entities and have sex not bc they are in love but have a desire that they want to fulfilll which is human nature.

Posted by natural25
I am prob going to catch hell for saying this, but I view sex a little differently. At least for myself. I personally do not have sex until I'm in a monogomous trusting and stable relationship. I understand that everyone (including myself) has needs but for me I rather be intimate with some one who I love. Now, I do understand that some ppl look at sex and love as two completely different entities and have sex not bc they are in love but have a desire that they want to fulfilll which is human nature.

Why should you catch hell for that? That's how you feel...there isn't anything wrong with that either. Different strokes for different folks.

Yeah,I agree with Cappy and Natchy.I gotta have love.
In my younger days I did it,and it's a bit like masturbation imo.it gets the job done,but leaves you (me) feeling empty inside.but as I've said before,I just can not separate love and sex.


Personally I agree with you three and that's my choice and because of past experiences.

Some of my girls are just looking for love but will go with sex in order to maybe hook someone and it's sad to sit and watch knowing what I know but of course there isn't anything I can do, they are adults. Although I wont sit back and tell them that that particular person is worth chasing if they show clearly they only wanted one thing.

i don't have anything against hooking up w/ someone on the first meet, but the mind for me is much more enticing than the physical. actually the two have to go hand in hand before i snatch up the dick. so if within our convo i realize we don't match up mentally, aka you bore me, annoy me... no matter how shexay you are shit just don't fly.
now if i'm really really over the top horny, i'll just call up a male acquaintance. that way its someone i know & someone i'm comfy with.

The-Dream: ""sex is sex, love is love" - So not true, maybe for you but not for others.""

Yes. I also meant to state that I didn't mean to shoot at anyone for what I believe in this is just my opinion, I keep forgetting to ask for forgiveness 😢

virgogotme: "I agree with ALL who have self respect. Who was it who said this...Dyr I think - "who wants
to be a cum dumpster?" I'd also bet 99.9% of the "sex is sex" attitude goes with a half a bottle or
so of booze to get to that attitude at the bar scene. I mean really, how many of you would
spread your legs wide to a guy who walks up to you during the day (lunch break whatever) and said
hey...wanna screw? If so...get paid for it, then be proud. To each her own."

Hmm...I don't remember ever saying anything about being a "cum dumpster". I also don't remember saying wanting to have sex had anything to do with alcohol or a bar scene. I also didn't say anything about getting paid for having sex. The statement sex is sex actually stands AGAINST everything you stated, I never thought having sex was that much of a big deal to people.

Also, I have the most self-respect for myself and others that do have sex with someone they choose. I don't know where people get off saying that having sex means you are totally irresponsible and disrespectful to yourself and what you represent (Male or female), What you need to realize is that this is a real life situation and it happens everyday.

If I said that I wanted to have sex with a different woman everyday, what would you say about me? How would you judge me differently from a woman saying the same thing? I may even create new topic about this...

People make this sound like trying on a pair of shoes ...


one cannot determine how they are going to "feel" about someone and whether they think they would be with them, when they haven't even met them yet.



Perhaps in having this attitude is the whole problem ... determinating ahead of time when you're going to sleep with a person you've never met.

I personally don't do this, but I don't see anything wrong with others doing what they feel. It's not just ones body that makes me want them...it's really their personality. I know this sounds like a typical answer, but it's the truth. I cannot tell you how many times I'm like..."that guy is hot...damn!". Then I start talking to him and it's such a let down. It's like once they open their mouths it all goes to hell 😢
I made my husband wait two weeks. It may not sound like a long time, but we saw each other most every day and it was hard not to...trust me.
When I was single, I never slept with anyone I just met the first night. If I was single now, it may just be a different story!
But, like I said, there is nothing wrong with doing this. Whatever melts your butter...

@ ramfishtwins & whoatiaznara -- ITA, if you can't stimulate me mentally, you sure as heck won't be able to stimulate me physically.

@BigD56 -- You don't have to apologize or ask for forgiveness for anything you may think or feel 🙂 Everybody has a right to think and feel what they want, and that doesn't make one persons opinion better or worse than another ---- even if you are being chastised by "some" for your thoughts and feelings.

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Posted by natural25
I am prob going to catch hell for saying this, but I view sex a little differently. At least for myself. I personally do not have sex until I'm in a monogomous trusting and stable relationship. I understand that everyone (including myself) has needs but for me I rather be intimate with some one who I love. Now, I do understand that some ppl look at sex and love as two completely different entities and have sex not bc they are in love but have a desire that they want to fulfilll which is human nature.

Why should you catch hell for that? That's how you feel...there isn't anything wrong with that either. Different strokes for different folks.

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I know I should not catch, but you know DXP. There is always someone who comes in and tries to twist words and create conflict. Lol.

@ Big: I think you are taking some coomments a little too personal. I do not think that anyone is attacking your views at all. They are just stating their opinions, sweetie. 🙂 Lol. Seriously, like USC said, you should not have to apologize for the way you feel or what you have said b/c no one else on this forum will. Lol. 🙂

@ Bella: Of course, I don't mind. Actually I like nathchy. Lol 🙂

I agree with the mind stimulation. I have to be emotionally and mentally there. I cant just do the physical. I need to have a connection deeper than just the body to body. Virgo and I made the mistake of being intimate a little early on. We decided to take a step back and stop. It has been HARD. But it has also been worth it. We are wokring on establishing a foundation that does not have anything to do with sex. I actually like it. We are trying to hold out as long as possible. As PA said to me, this is a Scorpio at work. . . . dont try this at home. Lol.

"I agree with the mind stimulation. I have to be emotionally and mentally there. I cant just do the physical. I need to have a connection deeper than just the body to body. Virgo and I made the mistake of being intimate a little early on. We decided to take a step back and stop. It has been HARD. But it has also been worth it. We are wokring on establishing a foundation that does not have anything to do with sex. I actually like it. We are trying to hold out as long as possible. As PA said to me, this is a Scorpio at work. . . . dont try this at home. Lol."

That's great Natural! God, that must be so hard! But, just think when the time comes how great it could possibly be?? I think it's so important to build a strong foundation of friendship and just enjoying that other person. If you don't have that, you don't have much at all.

RAMFISH: "That's great Natural! God, that must be so hard! But, just think when the time comes how great it could possibly be?? I think it's so important to build a strong foundation of friendship and just enjoying that other person. If you don't have that, you don't have much at all. "

Yes, it is extrememly hard. Especially, when he spends the night. Lol. But yes, it will be well worth it in the end...at least i hope. So much for my plan to do a striptese for him (I planned this before we decided to not be intimate) the night of his bday. Ahh Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Thanks for the support!

You are very welcome. It's so refreshing to hear a story like this. I believe you are headed in the right direction.

"So much for my plan to do a striptese for him (I planned this before we decided to not be intimate) the night of his bday. Ahh Ha Ha Ha Ha."

Damn! I hope you've not hinted this to him. If so, he's going to go crazy!

Posted by natural25
...my plan to do a striptese for him...

The male virgo community supports this ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT as method to celebrate our birthdays.

RAMFISH: "Damn! I hope you've not hinted this to him. If so, he's going to go crazy!"

No, he does not know that I planned that. Lol. Yes, he would go crazy. Lmao!!!

VH: "The male virgo community supports this ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT as method to celebrate our birthdays."

I'm sure they do! But it will be even better when and if we get married on the wedding night. Yes, yes we are trying to wait it out until then...IF that happens. Lol

Posted by BigD56
The-Dream: ""sex is sex, love is love" - So not true, maybe for you but not for others.""

Yes. I also meant to state that I didn't mean to shoot at anyone for what I believe in this is just my opinion, I keep forgetting to ask for forgiveness 😢

No, need to LOL! just my opinion on the topic.

Posted by natural25
RAMFISH: "Damn! I hope you've not hinted this to him. If so, he's going to go crazy!"

No, he does not know that I planned that. Lol. Yes, he would go crazy. Lmao!!!

VH: "The male virgo community supports this ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT as method to celebrate our birthdays."

I'm sure they do! But it will be even better when and if we get married on the wedding night. Yes, yes we are trying to wait it out until then...IF that happens. Lol

LOL @ Virgohero!

@natural25 - Look at you, thank goodness you DIDN'T let on to what you had planned, or he may have been having second thoughts 😉 LOL! There is nothing wrong with that, especially if you two have talked about this and have made it a mututal decision. Since I don't plan/want/intend on ever getting married, I would be in a world of hurt; and contrary to what some may think, I am very selective about who I chose to sleep with; however, I believe it's an individuals right to chose whatever they WANT to do, and not to feel they can't because society says they shouldn't or that they should, because someone is trying to pressure them into doing something they don't want to do.

I'm almost amused.

The OP did not ask if we women often like to drop her panties and spread her legs for any random male who walks up to her and says, "Let's fuck." And the respondents did NOT say, "Yes! I'm a cum dumpster! I love to fuck random guys off the street in the middle of the day! Sober, even! Cuz I have no self esteem and even less self respect! I should be a prostitute and at least get paid for being a whore!"

Mighty big leap there from "I like making my own choices about who and when I want to have sex, and not listen to anyone telling me when and how I "should" do it." all the way to, "I'm a whore who fucks anything and everything! Go me!"

Choosing to sleep with someone early on doesn't mean there's alcohol involved. I don't drink more than one or two drinks, once or twice a year - in a good year! I don't do drugs of any kind, and I'm not promiscuous. But I HAVE chosen to sleep with a guy I was very attracted to and WANTED to sleep with, yes on the first date. And when I CHOOSE to have sex, I do my best to prevent unwanted pregnancy and disease, whether in a committed relationship or just starting a sexual relationship! There are more "irresponsible" people having sex in relationships than there are having first time sex with someone they like and are attracted to, and they are MUCH more likely to have an "oopsie" that ends up "costing" someone!

Not one person here advocated the scenario you presented, the Random Guy Walking Up bullshit. We were talking about DATING. You know, usually with a guy you've talked to before, seen around, a friend set you up with, etc. A guy I already knew somewhat (at least) and was attracted to, even on a first DATE, I might decide to go for it - if I WANTED to. NONE of us even said, "I fucked this guy I went on a blind date with. Well, it wasn't exactly a date. We just met at his hotel room to screw! I don't remember his name, and don't know anything about him except how big his penis is, but I do this all the time!" HOWEVER, even if someone had said that, to each their own. Live and let live. I am not in control of someone else's sex life, and I have NO right to judge them.

People trying to hold others up to their OWN set of morals/standards, and using bullshit unrelated comparisons to justify their own prejudice is what makes me rail and balk against society trying to tell me what I can/can't, should/shouldn't do with my OWN body with another consenting adult!

Nefer, I think the majority of ppl are just simply stating how they handle situations like this. In fact , I have read several people (including myself) state, hey this is how i handle it but I also understand and respect if others to handle it differently.

"People trying to hold others up to their OWN set of morals/standards, and using bullshit unrelated comparisons to justify their own prejudice is what makes me rail and balk against society trying to tell me what I can/can't, should/shouldn't do with my OWN body with another consenting adult!"

Word...

Posted by natural25
Nefer, I think the majority of ppl are just simply stating how they handle situations like this. In fact , I have read several people (including myself) state, hey this is how i handle it but I also understand and respect if others to handle it differently.

@natural25 -- I think she was referring to the correlation that was being used that someone who choses to do what they want to do as a consenting adult is likened to being a whore.

Virgogotme: "If you are a guy, which I question now"

Hmm...everything you stated, from this to you complaining about welfare etc. Has nothing to do with what I was talking about. You did admit that sex isn't responsible, so im happy to know we accomplised something out of this conversation. Me being a guy or girl...I guess u gonna have deal with that issue. Maybe you should start a topic on that?

To USCTaurusgal The Dream and natural25...this is the reason why I ask for forgiveness everytime I state my opinion, someone always takes me waaay too seriously and attacks me it never fails.

Anyway...wait a sec, Did somebody say lapdance—?

"Anyway...wait a sec, Did somebody say lapdance—?"

Nothing like a one track mind *awaits VirgoHero to chime in 😉*

I think it was striptease, NOT lapdance, but I guess they are very similar so take your pick!

Continue to state your opinion - just like the rest of these folks on here. It's good to have varied opinions on things - just imagine how boring the world would be if everybody agreed on everything! Anyway, I don't usually address posters who I feel are borderline rude or full on rude for that matter (lol). It's one thing to offer a varied/different opinon, and quite another to be rude and condescending to those who don't share their exact viewpoint. I chose to accept the fact that we will have to agree to disagree and move on. I'm not trying to change their mind, and they damn sure won't change mine.

Damn duplicate posts 😢

Posted by USCTaurusGal

Posted by natural25
Nefer, I think the majority of ppl are just simply stating how they handle situations like this. In fact , I have read several people (including myself) state, hey this is how i handle it but I also understand and respect if others to handle it differently.

@natural25 -- I think she was referring to the correlation that was being used that someone who choses to do what they want to do as a consenting adult is likened to being a whore.

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Lol. Oh ok got it.

BIG: I said striptease. I am sure a lap dane ould have came into play too. Lol. But not anymore. 😢

Posted by natural25
BIG: I said striptease. I am sure a lap dane ould have came into play too. Lol. But not anymore. 😢

HAHAHA i have no idea where the striptease came from but it made me laugh, who stripteasing??

Posted by The-Dream

Posted by natural25
BIG: I said striptease. I am sure a lap dane ould have came into play too. Lol. But not anymore. 😢

HAHAHA i have no idea where the striptease came from but it made me laugh, who stripteasing??

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I said that I was thinking about doing a striptease for the man who I am dating, before him and I decided to stop being intimate. Lol.

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Posted by The-Dream

Posted by natural25
BIG: I said striptease. I am sure a lap dane ould have came into play too. Lol. But not anymore. 😢

HAHAHA i have no idea where the striptease came from but it made me laugh, who stripteasing??

I said that I was thinking about doing a striptease for the man who I am dating, before him and I decided to stop being intimate. Lol.

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OH! LOL can i still see the panties?? LMAo j/k!

Posted by Ms.P
"Oh, I was mistaken, I looked up your profile nefer and see you've had two husbands and
four kids, and working on a new husband. So were the first two "first dates"? Like the
thread reads...just curious. Child support from two men is better than welfare I guess.
How often are you hauling their asses off to court I wonder."



SMH

Wow! That is taking it to a pretty personal level.

yowza. i like this thread because i love reading ppl's different opinions on touchy subjects like dating /sex on the first date/ etc;
i think we all judge on some level. not just on this topic, but on various things its human nature.
anytime you have a topic such as this people are gonna get weird and defensive. what might be normal and chill to you might not be to someone else, i don't think getting bent out of shape and stalking ppl's profile's is really necessary. its good to be passionate about what you believe in, but @ virgogotme you should reeeelax.

Posted by BigD56
The-Dream: ""sex is sex, love is love" - So not true, maybe for you but not for others.""

Yes. I also meant to state that I didn't mean to shoot at anyone for what I believe in this is just my opinion, I keep forgetting to ask for forgiveness 😢

.... lol, stop being so overly sensitive already.

*chuckles* Wow on the purely personal attack. o.O

The OP said people we met yes, though NOT to the disgusting and derogatory level you took it to, that was your own spin -- the respondents all mentioned first DATES, not strangers off the street, and you still likened it to whoredom. You pay mere lip service to "TO EACH HER OWN" because you still judge them, call them names, insult and belittle those who don't have the same morals/standards as YOU. Surprised that you would take the fact that a woman's been married twice and has four children, and is in a relationship shaping up to be marriage.. and you'll STILL find a reason to insult and judge her, and take any cheap shot you can. How the hell old ARE you, anyway?!

And fine, since you're interested - No, my husbands were not "first times".

Since you took the time to track me to another thread, responding to me there about THIS thread and all of this animosity, you're already aware of my first marriage, which produced my two daughters. My young husband couldn't handle the responsibility and wanted out. I do not know how other states are, but Michigan is no-fault divorce. That means you don't need grounds for a divorce, or even any reason at all. I could not stop or contest the divorce, though I never set out to be a young divorcee with two young girls to raise -- with the help of his paltry $ 37/wk. Incidentally, I dragged his ass to court as many times as it took to collect between then and now, since they are 19 and 17.

My second husband was absolutely wonderful, and we added two sons to the two (step)daughters he adored. Unfortunately, "Til death do you part" was sooner than we had anticipated. He died nearly a decade ago, and our sons can barely remember him since they were aged four and infant at the time. (My financials are NONE of your fucking concern, but I assure you I do not receive a dime from you in any way, shape, or form.) He left some mighty big shoes to fill in the "relationship" department, and I swore I'd never remarry until I found a man who would love me like he did, and vice versa. But a woman has "needs" too, though society tries to tell her she shouldn't. If I want to have sex, I'll have sex - as soon or as late as I want to. That doesn't make me (or anyone with a similar mindset) to be cheap, easy, irresponsible, whorish, or any other unflattering adjective you can come up with.

Irresponsibility starts with the person who doesn't think of the consequences of not only the possibility of getting diseased, pregnant or saying yes to someone they DON'T KNOW AT ALL who could be dangerous, tells me right off the bat, I'm gonna be paying for the stupidity.

Hmmm ... I agree with this. Not the arguement part -- but this entire sentence.


When it comes to sexual matters, we as adults all have the ability to "think" before we "do". The reason I single out sexual matters is because its easy to recover from goofs in other aspects of your life, there are some life changing elements when it comes to sexual matters that cannot just disappear into thin air.

Sure, sex is fun and enjoyable (oh yeah 😉), that it is. However, if you don't "think" before you "do" then your life can lead to the middle of nowhere quickly before you even realize it. I'm not saying that you need to know the person's whole life story, but you should at least know their favorite color ^_^.

I was talking to my doctor one day and he gave me some shocking and interesting information .... some people aren't aware of the fact that there are now sexual transmitted diseases that condoms do not protect against and the diseases take a while to grow with the human body but they are present -- I don't have a link or anything because the info came from my doctor. I suspected such because when you mix different bodily fluids, creations are limitless.

This is why its important to know what you're doing when it comes to matters such as sexual intercourse. Yes, I am a hot-bodied girl and like I said before, I believe in having sex on my terms -- and keep in mind, I say on "my terms" because I will not let some dude control our relationship according to 'when we fyck'. Trust me, if I had sex at the drop of hat whenever a guy wanted me too, I wouldn't have as much trouble with guys as I do.

The biggiest assumption way too many men make is that I'm the kind of girl that will 'spread eagle' to some dude (some dude meaning someone I just met) and thats simply not the case.

I refuse to 'spread eagle', and I certainly don't have to under any circumstances. I will only sleep with a man if I choose to, but I will have to at least "know" who and what the hell I'm dealing with first. Not because I'm being traditional or consersative, but because I am wise enough to know that sexual responsiblity is essenial to living this thing called life.

Now, all that being said, I do like making out from time to time 😉 However, tonguing someone's mouth is different than tonguing other areas lol if you know what I mean.


Its all a matter of what matters to you and what doesn't matter to me. Sure, I may play around with a guy and it may get alittle heavy at times. But it'll take more than just the first meeting or couple of meetings before I let him jump my bones.

Preferably, I like a sexual relationship with a boyfriend. I'm not saying this has to be the written rule but thats what seems to work for me.

On one occasion, there was this virguy that seem to agree to be my boyfriend so he could screw around *shakes head.*

Posted by Nefer
*chuckles* Wow on the purely personal attack. o.O

Since you took the time to track me to another thread, responding to me there about THIS thread and all of this animosity, you're already aware of my first marriage, which produced my two daughters. My young husband couldn't handle the responsibility and wanted out. I do not know how other states are, but Michigan is no-fault divorce. That means you don't need grounds for a divorce, or even any reason at all. I could not stop or contest the divorce, though I never set out to be a young divorcee with two young girls to raise -- with the help of his paltry $ 37/wk. Incidentally, I dragged his ass to court as many times as it took to collect between then and now, since they are 19 and 17.

My second husband was absolutely wonderful, and we added two sons to the two (step)daughters he adored. Unfortunately, "Til death do you part" was sooner than we had anticipated. He died nearly a decade ago, and our sons can barely remember him since they were aged four and infant at the time. (My financials are NONE of your fucking concern, but I assure you I do not receive a dime from you in any way, shape, or form.) He left some mighty big shoes to fill in the "relationship" department, and I swore I'd never remarry until I found a man who would love me like he did, and vice versa. But a woman has "needs" too, though society tries to tell her she shouldn't. If I want to have sex, I'll have sex - as soon or as late as I want to. That doesn't make me (or anyone with a similar mindset) to be cheap, easy, irresponsible, whorish, or any other unflattering adjective you can come up with.

Wow Nefer, you been through alot, yes you have ....

Isn't Michigan No-Fault Divorce a grand thing (: Its so awesome, it cuts out all the bullshit that other states seem to like to dealing with.

Oh and I agree that a woman has needs, I just suggest that she be careful along dealing with her needs ^_^.

Nefer I am sorry to hear about your loss.

P you crack me up. You always have such a way with words....you hit it dead on.

Posted by satori
Oh and I agree that a woman has needs, I just suggest that she be careful along dealing with her needs ^_^.

duh.

Well satori, some woman (and men) let their bottoms do all the thinking for them 😉 I was just saying, yes its commonsense but hey thats a whole other topic all together lol.

Posted by natural25

P you crack me up. You always have such a way with words....you hit it dead on.

I co-sign! She's a HOOT! 😄

(And thank you, cappy, natural, and everyone else, for your condolences. It was 10 years ago, but he was special indeed, and I will always miss him.)