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Posted by MidAtBest
I've done a ton of experimentation and crunched lots of data over several years in order to dodge paying for synastry readings and figure out who I can trust. I've found that iQs soulmate calculator that you find on lindaland or wherever is legit, and so is the astrowin calculator. You want to hit his moon and Venus, or have that soulmate mars-venus aspect ideally. I usually check my composite chart on astro-charts to look for chart patterns: you do not want only t-squares, or 3+. And of course you want your personal planets to be favorable in the composite chart: no aqua mars, no cap moon, no Virgo Venus etc. you want your strongest composite aspects to be harmonious and involve moon/Venus. Also, a cool thing I've realized if you don't want to ask someone's birth time, just look up the moon rising time on their birthday at their place of birth. I use timeanddate.com but oorth.com works too
What I use for everything all the time and is my go-to to figure out who I can trust is the sevenreflections.com love compatibility calculator. I've figured out four different types of relationships: Walk Him Like a Dog- when the patriarch, older person or power holder is more invested (the % in the pie chart) and more attracted. Peacock- when the power holder is less invested and more attracted. Madonna- when the power holder is more invested and less attracted. And red x- when the power holder is less invested and attracted.
A good relationship will have 20+ connections (the number given before the pie chart) and the mutual percent in the pie chart should be between 0 and 18. You can calculate your self-esteem by using the calculator with your own birth data, and the attraction represents your self-esteem. If you're in a red X or peacock relationship (and the walk him like a dog really, since most men won't tolerate that), the power holder should have lower self-esteem than the other partner. If you're in a Madonna relationship, the power holder should have higher self-esteem than the other partner.
When you switch perspectives, if you see his investment as lower than he sees it, you're the "victim". Literally some of these couples do become victims, like of murder- when his self esteem is higher. Victim relationships are common but you should proceed with caution. They're only possible with red X and peacock relationships and I consider peacock and walk him like a dog favorable
You want your partners attraction to you to be at least 2.89. anything below, he'll be dismissive toward you. People will also tend to choose the partner with the highest self-esteem.
There are my secrets, it may sound dumb but it works amazing for me.
I'm going to have to look into this!
here's an example of the sevenreflections one
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
Posted by Stardustmopped
Here’s what I’ve figured out so far with my past relationships
inconjunct signs are more equal in terms of effort and the ‘spiritual/mundane’ index. These feel the safest to me. For better or worse.
Square signs are more equal in spiritual/mundane connections but not equal effort. Very high attraction with squares (the best sex IMO)
Sextiles are more mundane and not as equal effort -more challenging and imbalanced somehow? I’ve not dated many sextiles but I have friends. They are good for surface level but hard to go any deeper than that.
Trines are more equal in spiritual/mundane but not equal effort.
I didn’t do neighboring signs.
It’s not taking into consideration the year at all. Just the month and day. So no consideration for outer planets.
My commitment index didn’t change no matter who I was with. Likewise theirs stayed the same too. So I’m stuck on that one? What is the purpose of running it separately with yourself?
Hailee and Justin are square.
I stopped looking at the spiritual/mundane index. Although when you process the calculator yourself it does depict how pragmatic you are (or connected to spirit)
The year matters in investment, but not in attraction using this method. Running it with yourself shows how you see yourself- ego, self image, self respect. People w high attraction scores w themselves often become bosses, bullies, overall confident people. People with low self-attraction scores are gropey and insecure, or otherwise more accommodating and eager to please. I agree about squares being fire 🔥.
I know the sevenreflections method is super dumbed down and seems ridiculous, taking no account for birth time or place, but when I figured it out and processed lots of relationships through it it applies amazingly. When I discovered it I felt like I held the secret to socialization. The problem is when I have great scores with a partner, but I feel cucked and the other bitch has even better scores w him
Also interestingly capricorns and aqua tended to have low self-esteem and cancer and Virgo the highest, yet still it applies
Commitment index describes your drive to be a loyal partner regardless of who with
Posted by StardustmoppedPosted by MidAtBestPosted by StardustmoppedI stopped looking at the spiritual/mundane index. Although when you process the calculator yourself it does depict how pragmatic you are (or connected to spirit)
Here’s what I’ve figured out so far with my past relationships
inconjunct signs are more equal in terms of effort and the ‘spiritual/mundane’ index. These feel the safest to me. For better or worse.
Square signs are more equal in spiritual/mundane connections but not equal effort. Very high attraction with squares (the best sex IMO)
Sextiles are more mundane and not as equal effort -more challenging and imbalanced somehow? I’ve not dated many sextiles but I have friends. They are good for surface level but hard to go any deeper than that.
Trines are more equal in spiritual/mundane but not equal effort.
I didn’t do neighboring signs.
It’s not taking into consideration the year at all. Just the month and day. So no consideration for outer planets.
My commitment index didn’t change no matter who I was with. Likewise theirs stayed the same too. So I’m stuck on that one? What is the purpose of running it separately with yourself?
Hailee and Justin are square.
The year matters in self esteem/investment, but not in attraction using this method. Running it with yourself shows how you see yourself- ego, self image, self respect. People w high attraction scores w themselves often become bosses, bullies, overall confident people. People with low self-attraction scores are gropey and insecure, or otherwise more accommodating and eager to please. I agree about squares being fire
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Interesting. I’ll have to go back through with that insight.
I am a 7.5 and I dated a 7.2 but I wouldn’t say we were equally matched in terms of physical attraction. So it’s really just ego and confidence? Likewise I dated a 2 and he’s hot af but yeah, more insecure.
My mind is kind of blown actually lol. I can’t find anyone in my past with a higher commitment index. Which makes sense to me. A man is less likely to choose someone with lower perceived attractiveness than him? 😭🤣
This is my new hyperfixation. Thank you.
Edit-I read your update. I’ll have to check after work when I have more time to pay attention.
I checked compatibility with other people. A man will date someone with a lower commitment score if he’s more invested. But I can’t tell if that’s good for long term. The couple I ran is broken up.
My last update-me and the other 7 both got cheated on by 4s. So less loyal which I think you mentionedclick to expand
Btw when attraction is too high like over 5 the relationship tends to become toxic, just too strong of feelings
Posted by StardustmoppedPosted by MidAtBestPosted by StardustmoppedBtw when attraction is too high like over 5 the relationship tends to become toxic, just too strong of feelingsPosted by MidAtBestInteresting. I’ll have to go back through with that insight.Posted by StardustmoppedI stopped looking at the spiritual/mundane index. Although when you process the calculator yourself it does depict how pragmatic you are (or connected to spirit)
Here’s what I’ve figured out so far with my past relationships
inconjunct signs are more equal in terms of effort and the ‘spiritual/mundane’ index. These feel the safest to me. For better or worse.
Square signs are more equal in spiritual/mundane connections but not equal effort. Very high attraction with squares (the best sex IMO)
Sextiles are more mundane and not as equal effort -more challenging and imbalanced somehow? I’ve not dated many sextiles but I have friends. They are good for surface level but hard to go any deeper than that.
Trines are more equal in spiritual/mundane but not equal effort.
I didn’t do neighboring signs.
It’s not taking into consideration the year at all. Just the month and day. So no consideration for outer planets.
My commitment index didn’t change no matter who I was with. Likewise theirs stayed the same too. So I’m stuck on that one? What is the purpose of running it separately with yourself?
Hailee and Justin are square.
The year matters in self esteem/investment, but not in attraction using this method. Running it with yourself shows how you see yourself- ego, self image, self respect. People w high attraction scores w themselves often become bosses, bullies, overall confident people. People with low self-attraction scores are gropey and insecure, or otherwise more accommodating and eager to please. I agree about squares being fire
click to expand
I am a 7.5 and I dated a 7.2 but I wouldn’t say we were equally matched in terms of physical attraction. So it’s really just ego and confidence? Likewise I dated a 2 and he’s hot af but yeah, more insecure.
My mind is kind of blown actually lol. I can’t find anyone in my past with a higher commitment index. Which makes sense to me. A man is less likely to choose someone with lower perceived attractiveness than him? 😭🤣
This is my new hyperfixation. Thank you.
Edit-I read your update. I’ll have to check after work when I have more time to pay attention.
I checked compatibility with other people. A man will date someone with a lower commitment score if he’s more invested. But I can’t tell if that’s good for long term. The couple I ran is broken up.
My last update-me and the other 7 both got cheated on by 4s. So less loyal which I think you mentioned
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Which number are we talking about? The commitment index or the attraction index?click to expand
Attraction index
Posted by MidAtBest
I've done a ton of experimentation and crunched lots of data over several years in order to dodge paying for synastry readings and figure out who I can trust. I've found that iQs soulmate calculator that you find on lindaland or wherever is legit, and so is the astrowin calculator. You want to hit his moon and Venus, or have that soulmate mars-venus aspect ideally. I usually check my composite chart on astro-charts to look for chart patterns: you do not want only t-squares, or 3+. And of course you want your personal planets to be favorable in the composite chart: no aqua mars, no cap moon, no Virgo Venus etc. you want your strongest composite aspects to be harmonious and involve moon/Venus. Also, a cool thing I've realized if you don't want to ask someone's birth time, just look up the moon rising time on their birthday at their place of birth. I use timeanddate.com but oorth.com works too
What I use for everything all the time and is my go-to to figure out who I can trust is the sevenreflections.com love compatibility calculator. I've figured out four different types of relationships: Walk Him Like a Dog- when the patriarch, older person or power holder is more invested (the % in the pie chart) and more attracted. Peacock- when the power holder is less invested and more attracted. Madonna- when the power holder is more invested and less attracted. And red x- when the power holder is less invested and attracted.
A good relationship will have 20+ connections (the number given before the pie chart) and the mutual percent in the pie chart should be between 0 and 18. You can calculate your self-esteem by using the calculator with your own birth data, and the attraction represents your self-esteem. If you're in a red X or peacock relationship (and the walk him like a dog really, since most men won't tolerate that), the power holder should have lower self-esteem than the other partner. If you're in a Madonna relationship, the power holder should have higher self-esteem than the other partner.
When you switch perspectives, if you see his investment as lower than he sees it, you're the "victim". Literally some of these couples do become victims, like of murder- when his self esteem is higher. Victim relationships are common but you should proceed with caution. They're only possible with red X and peacock relationships and I consider peacock and walk him like a dog favorable
You want your partners attraction to you to be at least 2.89. anything below, he'll be dismissive toward you. People will also tend to choose the partner with the highest self-esteem.
There are my secrets, it may sound dumb but it works amazing for me.
What I find most usual and enlighting is your
Dynamics concepts.
This will be very useful for me.
Dynamics are everything in a relationship. No matter how compatible you are, if the dynamic itself is incompatable with what is needed by the individuals....
Mind breaking those down for me?
Posted by CoCoBeans
It didn’t work for me. I tried people who were pretty shit to me and got almost +40. The other calculator doesn’t load on iPhone. My chart has a lot of T squares and weirdness going on though.
Yeah if I didn't call the hospital myself I wouldn't believe my birthday is correct
I processed so many other couples (hundreds) through the calculators I mentioned and unfortunately they proved accurate enough to convince me. One dude who I had a 70 astrowin score with threatened to kick me in the face when I wouldn't go out with him. He was a cancer
Posted by MidAtBest
here's an example of the sevenreflections one
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
there's so many vids of this 'love triangle' or maybe rectangle actually dropping today like this our generation's brangelina.
but are you saying the attraction is high but not really the investment?
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBest
here's an example of the sevenreflections one
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
there's so many vids of this 'love triangle' or maybe rectangle actually dropping today like this our generation's brangelina.
but are you saying the attraction is high but not really the investment?click to expand
Yeah, it seems like the attraction score for a man here is the most important factor for the success of a relationship (or how good it will feel for you) + a favorable dynamic- walk him like a dog (blue) or peacock (purple). if he's less invested you might feel clingy but he won't neg you because he's hella attracted. another purple relationship is tana mongeau & makoa (idk if you follow them lol). strangely timothee chalamet & Kylie Jenner are blue so regardless of headlines, he's the one stuck on her
the madonna relationships (what I call green-- just how I label them in my notes) to me feel like you're dealing with an incel who thinks you have to say yes to him because you're not a 100 lb DD virgin. if you're shipping me with DXPers, the only ones I processed myself with through the calculator were hydorah (green/red- attraction 2.89-- I actually used him as the cut-off to whether the man is dismissive. like that level + is good); aerialview (red- his attraction 2.74, oh yeah his score's were the same as ayb too lmao I forgot I ran us through it); and tiziani (blue- his attraction 2.39)
**oh yeah, I had warangels birth data I ran through it too and he and I were green/red with his attraction 2.85 lol
@virgoOPPP the celebrity relationships in my notes:
//Blue (walk him like a dog)://
Justin & Hailey (they switch investments with perspective) his attraction is 3.21
Justin & Selena (he was a victim) his attraction is 2.61
Jennifer Garner & Ben Affleck, his attraction is 2.12
Nick Jonas & Priyanka (they switch investments with perspective) his attraction is 5.61
Prince Harry & Meghan (he's the victim) his attraction is 2.95
Timothee Chalamet & Kylie Jenner, his attraction is 2.89
Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce, his attraction is 2.82
Rob Rausch & Leah Kateb from Love Island USA, his attraction is 2.16
Rob & Andrea Carmona didn't even have a score because their investment was 100% mutual with same attraction score at 6.95.
//Purple (peacock)://
King Charles & Queen Elizabeth (his mom- she's the victim) his attraction is 3.46. I ran them through to see if Scorpionics are always the most attracted to their own moms because it's showing in my own life dating those mamas boys.
Scott & Laci Peterson (she's ofc the victim) his attraction was 3.83
Scott Peterson & his side chick Amber, his attraction is 3.6
//Green (Madonna)//
Princess Diana & Prince Charles (he's the victim), his attraction is 3.03
Jodi Arias & Travis Alexander (he's ofc the victim) his attraction was 2.75
//Red (unfavorable for you)://
Jeffree Star & Nate Schwandt, Nate's attraction 4.71
JLo & Ben Affleck, his attraction 3.39
King Charles & Duchess Camilla (she's the victim), his attraction is 2.18 lol!!!!!
Kate Middleton & Prince William (she's the victim), his attraction is 4.22
Chris & Shanann Watts (she's ofc the victim) his attraction was 1.94
Chris Watts & his side chick Nichol (she's the victim) his attraction is 3.41
Timothee Chalamet & Florence Pugh (she's the victim) his attraction is 3.67
Kylie Jenner & Travis Scott (investment switches with perspective) his attraction is 3.71
Kylie Jenner & Tyga (investment switches with perspective) his attraction is 2.71
Vinny Guadagnino & Snooki, his attraction is 3.18
Vinny Guadagnino & Angelina Pivarnick (she's the victim), his attraction is 1.75
@virgoOPPP the celebrity relationships in my notes:
//Blue (walk him like a dog)://
Justin & Hailey (they switch investments with perspective) his attraction is 3.21
Justin & Selena (he was a victim) his attraction is 2.61
Jennifer Garner & Ben Affleck, his attraction is 2.12
Nick Jonas & Priyanka (they switch investments with perspective) his attraction is 5.61
Prince Harry & Meghan (he's the victim) his attraction is 2.95
Timothee Chalamet & Kylie Jenner, his attraction is 2.89
Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce, his attraction is 2.82
Rob Rausch & Leah Kateb from Love Island USA, his attraction is 2.16
Rob & Andrea Carmona didn't even have a score because their investment was 100% mutual with same attraction score at 6.95.
//Purple (peacock)://
King Charles & Queen Elizabeth (his mom- she's the victim) his attraction is 3.46. I ran them through to see if Scorpionics are always the most attracted to their own moms because it's showing in my own life dating those mamas boys.
Scott & Laci Peterson (she's ofc the victim) his attraction was 3.83
Scott Peterson & his side chick Amber, his attraction is 3.6
//Green (Madonna)//
Princess Diana & Prince Charles (he's the victim), his attraction is 3.03
Jodi Arias & Travis Alexander (he's ofc the victim) his attraction was 2.75
//Red (unfavorable for you)://
Jeffree Star & Nate Schwandt, Nate's attraction 4.71
JLo & Ben Affleck, his attraction 3.39
King Charles & Duchess Camilla (she's the victim), his attraction is 2.18 lol!!!!!
Kate Middleton & Prince William (she's the victim), his attraction is 4.22
Chris & Shanann Watts (she's ofc the victim) his attraction was 1.94
Chris Watts & his side chick Nichol (she's the victim) his attraction is 3.41
Timothee Chalamet & Florence Pugh (she's the victim) his attraction is 3.67
Kylie Jenner & Travis Scott (investment switches with perspective) his attraction is 3.71
Kylie Jenner & Tyga (investment switches with perspective) his attraction is 2.71
Vinny Guadagnino & Snooki, his attraction is 3.18
Vinny Guadagnino & Angelina Pivarnick (she's the victim), his attraction is 1.75
Posted by LostthoughtsPosted by MidAtBest
I've done a ton of experimentation and crunched lots of data over several years in order to dodge paying for synastry readings and figure out who I can trust. I've found that iQs soulmate calculator that you find on lindaland or wherever is legit, and so is the astrowin calculator. You want to hit his moon and Venus, or have that soulmate mars-venus aspect ideally. I usually check my composite chart on astro-charts to look for chart patterns: you do not want only t-squares, or 3+. And of course you want your personal planets to be favorable in the composite chart: no aqua mars, no cap moon, no Virgo Venus etc. you want your strongest composite aspects to be harmonious and involve moon/Venus. Also, a cool thing I've realized if you don't want to ask someone's birth time, just look up the moon rising time on their birthday at their place of birth. I use timeanddate.com but oorth.com works too
What I use for everything all the time and is my go-to to figure out who I can trust is the sevenreflections.com love compatibility calculator. I've figured out four different types of relationships: Walk Him Like a Dog- when the patriarch, older person or power holder is more invested (the % in the pie chart) and more attracted. Peacock- when the power holder is less invested and more attracted. Madonna- when the power holder is more invested and less attracted. And red x- when the power holder is less invested and attracted.
A good relationship will have 20+ connections (the number given before the pie chart) and the mutual percent in the pie chart should be between 0 and 18. You can calculate your self-esteem by using the calculator with your own birth data, and the attraction represents your self-esteem. If you're in a red X or peacock relationship (and the walk him like a dog really, since most men won't tolerate that), the power holder should have lower self-esteem than the other partner. If you're in a Madonna relationship, the power holder should have higher self-esteem than the other partner.
When you switch perspectives, if you see his investment as lower than he sees it, you're the "victim". Literally some of these couples do become victims, like of murder- when his self esteem is higher. Victim relationships are common but you should proceed with caution. They're only possible with red X and peacock relationships and I consider peacock and walk him like a dog favorable
You want your partners attraction to you to be at least 2.89. anything below, he'll be dismissive toward you. People will also tend to choose the partner with the highest self-esteem.
There are my secrets, it may sound dumb but it works amazing for me.
What I find most usual and enlighting is your
Dynamics concepts.
This will be very useful for me.
Dynamics are everything in a relationship. No matter how compatible you are, if the dynamic itself is incompatable with what is needed by the individuals....
Mind breaking those down for me?
click to expand
I think when I saw this I didn't quite understand what you were asking, but now it computes. The dynamics are:
Blue relationship (walk him like a dog): his attraction & investment is higher than hers
Purple relationship (peacock): his attraction is higher, her investment is higher
Those two relationships, the woman have the upper hand.
Poor relationships for the woman:
Green relationships (madonna): his investment is higher, her attraction is higher
Red (red ex): her attraction & investment are higher than his
The baseline for a man's attraction for a successful relationship is 2.89, but if his attraction to one contender is lower but they have a blue dynamic and his attraction to the other contender is higher and they have a red dynamic, he'll chase blue because she gives him a challenge. Green relationships are almost impossible unless the woman has lower self-esteem (self-attraction when calculated against herself in the calculator). Red, blue, and purple relationships are almost impossible unless the woman has higher self-esteem.
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBestthere's so many vids of this 'love triangle' or maybe rectangle actually dropping today like this our generation's brangelina.
here's an example of the sevenreflections one
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
but are you saying the attraction is high but not really the investment?
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Yeah, it seems like the attraction score for a man here is the most important factor for the success of a relationship (or how good it will feel for you) + a favorable dynamic- walk him like a dog (blue) or peacock (purple). if he's less invested you might feel clingy but he won't neg you because he's hella attracted. another purple relationship is tana mongeau & makoa (idk if you follow them lol). strangely timothee chalamet & Kylie Jenner are blue so regardless of headlines, he's the one stuck on her
the madonna relationships (what I call green-- just how I label them in my notes) to me feel like you're dealing with an incel who thinks you have to say yes to him because you're not a 100 lb DD virgin. if you're shipping me with DXPers, the only ones I processed myself with through the calculator were hydorah (green/red- attraction 2.89-- I actually used him as the cut-off to whether the man is dismissive. like that level + is good); aerialview (red- his attraction 2.74, oh yeah his score's were the same as ayb too lmao I forgot I ran us through it); and tiziani (blue- his attraction 2.39)click to expand
rarely do i ship irl people coz there's little space for imagination there but i admit nicole kidman x jimmy fallon is my roman empire 🤭🤭
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBestPosted by virgoOPPPYeah, it seems like the attraction score for a man here is the most important factor for the success of a relationship (or how good it will feel for you) + a favorable dynamic- walk him like a dog (blue) or peacock (purple). if he's less invested you might feel clingy but he won't neg you because he's hella attracted. another purple relationship is tana mongeau & makoa (idk if you follow them lol). strangely timothee chalamet & Kylie Jenner are blue so regardless of headlines, he's the one stuck on herPosted by MidAtBestthere's so many vids of this 'love triangle' or maybe rectangle actually dropping today like this our generation's brangelina.
here's an example of the sevenreflections one
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
but are you saying the attraction is high but not really the investment?
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the madonna relationships (what I call green-- just how I label them in my notes) to me feel like you're dealing with an incel who thinks you have to say yes to him because you're not a 100 lb DD virgin. if you're shipping me with DXPers, the only ones I processed myself with through the calculator were hydorah (green/red- attraction 2.89-- I actually used him as the cut-off to whether the man is dismissive. like that level + is good); aerialview (red- his attraction 2.74, oh yeah his score's were the same as ayb too lmao I forgot I ran us through it); and tiziani (blue- his attraction 2.39)
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rarely do i ship irl people coz there's little space for imagination there but i admit nicole kidman x jimmy fallon is my roman empire 🤭🤭click to expand
that's really not bad. hot older gemini coquette with goofy virgo. iconic. did you see babygirl btw? unfortunately he's less attracted and invested according to my calculator, but her self-esteem is higher so its possible
I'm gonna ship tom Brady and Camille Vasquez (Johnny depps lawyer), omg. as a cancer, she would have an upper hand in that way as the preceding sign..
his attraction: 3.44. blue/purple (investment switches with perspective). would work 😄
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBestrarely do i ship irl people coz there's little space for imagination there but i admit nicole kidman x jimmy fallon is my roman empire 🤭🤭Posted by virgoOPPPYeah, it seems like the attraction score for a man here is the most important factor for the success of a relationship (or how good it will feel for you) + a favorable dynamic- walk him like a dog (blue) or peacock (purple). if he's less invested you might feel clingy but he won't neg you because he's hella attracted. another purple relationship is tana mongeau & makoa (idk if you follow them lol). strangely timothee chalamet & Kylie Jenner are blue so regardless of headlines, he's the one stuck on herPosted by MidAtBestthere's so many vids of this 'love triangle' or maybe rectangle actually dropping today like this our generation's brangelina.
here's an example of the sevenreflections one
my perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/8CXN8NPW/temp-Image-Ud-PUKm.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/NMXVNcyQ/temp-Image-AYjgjl.avif
my self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/qRpnFcqg/temp-Image-Uzit9b.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/rmbV4cBc/temp-Imagel5l-Iu-G.avif
his perspective:
https://i.postimg.cc/3J38DL6k/temp-Imageir-Utf0.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/7LwnvrQx/temp-Image1-To-OX6.avif
his self-esteem:
https://i.postimg.cc/W4zw8LWt/temp-Imager-Ic-IBp.avif
https://i.postimg.cc/VkdJHfwy/temp-Image-DAm-C0-L.avif
my investment is higher, his attraction is higher= peacock relationship, so named because I'm strutting around exhibiting my plumage and he likes it but maybe not seriously. my self-esteem is higher, and I found two relationships with such a dynamic, one being Hailey Bieber and Justin lol. high connections, not a huge berth between us (the mutual % ), his attraction over 2.89= green flags. most relationships I found, the woman was less invested but more attracted with lower self-esteem, so I named it "madonna" for the madonna-whore complex. I'm on bad terms with my madonna exes and good terms with my peacock exes. with a peacock relationship you won't have to worry whether he can pop a boner lmao.
this dude's been ignoring me for 2 days (probably bc of his sag Venus & low commitment score, plus his mars squares my moon= very painful for me) but since everything else here is favorable I predict he'll be back and it'll be happy for at least a few months lol. maybe when Venus goes direct
but are you saying the attraction is high but not really the investment?
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the madonna relationships (what I call green-- just how I label them in my notes) to me feel like you're dealing with an incel who thinks you have to say yes to him because you're not a 100 lb DD virgin. if you're shipping me with DXPers, the only ones I processed myself with through the calculator were hydorah (green/red- attraction 2.89-- I actually used him as the cut-off to whether the man is dismissive. like that level + is good); aerialview (red- his attraction 2.74, oh yeah his score's were the same as ayb too lmao I forgot I ran us through it); and tiziani (blue- his attraction 2.39)
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that's really not bad. hot older gemini coquette with goofy virgo. iconic. did you see babygirl btw? unfortunately he's less attracted and invested according to my calculator, but her self-esteem is higher so its possible
I'm gonna ship tom Brady and Camille Vasquez (Johnny depps lawyer), omg. as a cancer, she would have an upper hand in that way as the preceding sign..
his attraction: 3.44. blue/purple (investment switches with perspective). would work
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not yet but maybe i should. always liked her.
Could someone use this method and calculate me the chart of the women that would give a red relationship thanks
Posted by hydorah
Could someone use this method and calculate me the chart of the women that would give a red relationship thanks
me
Posted by MidAtBest
if you're shipping me with DXPers, the only ones I processed myself with through the calculator were hydorah (green/red- attraction 2.89-- I actually used him as the cut-off to whether the man is dismissive. like that level + is good)click to expand
Posted by Overthinker
Could you elaborate on this please? How does this help in lack of exact birth time?
"Also, a cool thing I've realized if you don't want to ask someone's birth time, just look up the moon rising time on their birthday at their place of birth."
I read that the moon rising time works as a secondary birth time, and my sister and I were both born within an hour of our moon rising time. (Not true of everyone whose birth time I know though- I was wondering if women actually tend to go into labor around the moon rising time). I also relate a lot to my house placements and angles when I use my moon rising time. And when I use people's moon rising time in synastry with me the aspects and house overlays resonate.
Posted by cuddlebear
I will be running every person I meet through this and I won't interact with them unless it's a walk them like a dog dynamic
Just checked everyone I interact with regularly and I'm either more attracted or more invested or both. Fuck my life
Yeah I was shocked when I realized I was a "victim" in almost every one of my previous relationships. It gave me the validation that I don't play the victim, I literally was one 💀
The purple relationships are good too. As long as they're more attracted. Sometimes I'll like someone I'm green with but time and time again that proves to be an unfavorable dynamic. Irl Im hesitant to trust people I'm green/red with or when their attraction is below that dismissive line.
Attraction doesn't always indicate physical attraction, sometimes I think it just means you see each other seriously enough for commitment or a long-term best friendship etc. but recently my old friend anonymously called my face repulsive (he didn't realize I could see his identity) and I was shocked bc he would always blow up my inbox, like my pictures and a decade ago he went out of his way to tell me I'm pretty. Come to find out we have the purple relationship and his attraction is like 1.14 xD so he meant that shit
The dismissive man with high attraction might come back professing his true feelings (depending on the dynamic), and the one who was sweating you heavy may have objectively seen that you are beautiful, his type and would be a catch but the low attraction score wouldn't hold his attention in the long run. But I feel you
I made some calculations based on your algorithm and I think right now it's pretty 50/50 for myself and her. Didn't start out that way though.
Posted by cuddlebear
I'm sorry but this is all way too interesting so one last question, would you say an attraction difference of 3.69 vs 3.71 would lead to a power imbalance or it's considered equal at this level?
I'm glad this calculator is working for you! I generally ignore investments as long as the dynamic is preferable possibly because I'm a Gemini with Leo rising who only cares about receiving admiration, not being stared at pointedly and held to all these expectations. Male investment does matter a lot.
I stopped adding to these notes because I quickly started trusting the conclusions I formed when using this calculator, but this is from a pool of 18 different couples-
average male attraction: 3.23
average male investment: 54.58%
average female attraction: 3.3
average female investment: 47.23%
A green relationship where the woman has lower self-esteem lasts. But I've noticed that if there's a small difference between attraction where the woman's is higher, she still seems noticeably thirsty.
Golden attraction for a man is when his attraction matches his self-esteem. So if he falls below the dismissive threshold, there could still be hope if his attraction=his self esteem+/- a tenth. Since my self esteem is 3.25, I would be better off establishing the dismissive line there since it's higher than my dismissive line, but that would dash too many of my hopes lol.
Posted by OverthinkerPosted by MidAtBestPosted by OverthinkerI read that the moon rising time works as a secondary birth time, and my sister and I were both born within an hour of our moon rising time. (Not true of everyone whose birth time I know though- I was wondering if women actually tend to go into labor around the moon rising time). I also relate a lot to my house placements and angles when I use my moon rising time. And when I use people's moon rising time in synastry with me the aspects and house overlays resonate.
Could you elaborate on this please? How does this help in lack of exact birth time?
"Also, a cool thing I've realized if you don't want to ask someone's birth time, just look up the moon rising time on their birthday at their place of birth."
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I tried to check this but I can't seem to figure it out. On sites you mentioned it's possible to look up to 2005, no previous years available...on the other site I couldn't find this option it all. I'd check first to corelate with charts that I know TOBclick to expand
On timeanddate the dropdown only goes to 2005 but you can manually type in the years before
@Mid, reply to this in a few hours so I don't forget. I have some testing to do.
Charles, Diana and Camilla makes sm sense. Ofc a Scorpio man couldnt stand the fact he was a victim and rather have a victim next to him
Posted by Black-Ops-Berserker
@Mid, reply to this in a few hours so I don't forget. I have some testing to do.
at your service friend
Posted by Lulufer
Charles, Diana and Camilla makes sm sense. Ofc a Scorpio man couldnt stand the fact he was a victim and rather have a victim next to him
definitely. that's a cool thing about this calculator, it shows feelings that could be imperceptible and defy the public opinion. looks like Charles loved Diana but they couldn't have someone so willful and outspoken in her position of power, and he's the most attracted to his mom so she put that divorce in motion. & indeed, Diana & Queen Elizabeth had a red relationship
like aspects could make the Timothee x Kylie & Hailey x Justin relationships toxic, but this calculator shows those men are exactly where they wanna be. then idk if anyone watched love Island season 6 but it makes sense why Rob dumped Leah for Andrea considering their scores using this calculator are through the roof.
Posted by cuddlebearPosted by MidAtBest
Golden attraction for a man is when his attraction matches his self-esteem. So if he falls below the dismissive threshold, there could still be hope if his attraction=his self esteem+/- a tenth. Since my self esteem is 3.25, I would be better off establishing the dismissive line there since it's higher than my dismissive line, but that would dash too many of my hopes lol.
With this formula all the above cases I mentioned make sense now. My father's girlfriend is within a tenth of his golden attraction even though it's a green scenario and she's the more attracted one. Her attraction to him is lower than her self esteem.
In their relationship he's the one that's more invested and more attracted
My mothers boyfriend that she's happy with and treats her well, it's a red relationship again for her 😢 but she falls within his golden line...
same for the guy who really liked me (an aquarius with low self esteem lol), I'm within a tenth of his golden line (-0.08) but he's below my golden line (3.68) even though if you compare scores my attraction to him is higher than his attraction to me
very accurate stuff
I suppose if a guy feels a strong attraction to a woman but the attraction is way above his self esteem he'd feel triggered by insecurity and won't feel worthy so, won't approach etc
most of these relationships I checked against the golden line, the woman is around 0.01-0.09 points lower than his self esteem
also seeing some narcy people I know having crazy high or low self esteem lol
based on all this I would be looking for someone whose attraction to me is over 3.68, his self esteem is a bit lower than mine and my attraction to him is around 3.60click to expand
I'm so glad you've taken the time to explore my method. It's crazy accurate for needing no info but a birthdate and using some random junk synastry calculator. I also use it in tandem with checking astrowin & our composite chart but this is my first step.
I mentioned earlier but its worth repeating that low self-esteem people tend to be gropey and high self-esteem people textbook narcs, sometimes murderers, felons or get themselves killed because they think they're untouchable. I've loved lower self-esteem bosses I've had. but people will choose the highest self-esteem option for a mate
when attraction is too high (like over 4) the passion is unsustainable and painful to cope with
y'all will be so amazed whe you see my method, I ran it on thousands of people and it's always more or less accurate (all it requires is a six sided dice)
Posted by cuddlebearPosted by hydorah
y'all will be so amazed whe you see my method, I ran it on thousands of people and it's always more or less accurate (all it requires is a six sided dice)
your self esteem is 4.52 (danger zone)click to expand
nice thank you I knew you' post it , I don't have time to create an account over there.
That said I don't think it's true, I don't really have high self esteem, I have narc/sociopath tendencies but not high self esteem
Posted by WoolyLabia
What is considered high self esteem?
imo 3.38 is high
people over 4 tend to be (and stay) managers (power-hungry)
Posted by hydorahPosted by cuddlebearPosted by hydorahyour self esteem is 4.52 (danger zone)
y'all will be so amazed whe you see my method, I ran it on thousands of people and it's always more or less accurate (all it requires is a six sided dice)
click to expand
nice thank you I knew you' post it , I don't have time to create an account over there.
That said I don't think it's true, I don't really have high self esteem, I have narc/sociopath tendencies but not high self esteemclick to expand
I've noticed that some people are blind to their own self-assurance. and it's common for pisces to have low self-esteem (all of the universal signs really). signs of your self-assurance: you're chased, never thirsty, resilient enough to never shame-delete, probably don't ever stutter, probably don't feel the need to smile around others when you don't feel like it nor walk on eggshells
Posted by WoolyLabia
Checks out with my global 5
that's another thing I noticed, people with higher self-esteems have clearly defined moral codes that they expect others to adhere to. can be virtue-signalers. I have almost no moral code as a Satanist except that I feel strongly that women who baby-trap/have children out of wedlock/gestate pregnancies that they can't afford are usually evil or stupid
I got RLOEN which matches up with ISTJ. I wish I knew the percentage of people like me (probably a majority, ISTJ is supposedly the most common personality type)
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by hydorahPosted by cuddlebearnice thank you I knew you' post it , I don't have time to create an account over there.Posted by hydorahyour self esteem is 4.52 (danger zone)
y'all will be so amazed whe you see my method, I ran it on thousands of people and it's always more or less accurate (all it requires is a six sided dice)
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That said I don't think it's true, I don't really have high self esteem, I have narc/sociopath tendencies but not high self esteem
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I've noticed that some people are blind to their own self-assurance. and it's common for pisces to have low self-esteem (all of the universal signs really). signs of your self-assurance: you're chased, never thirsty, resilient enough to never shame-delete, probably don't ever stutter, probably don't feel the need to smile around others when you don't feel like it nor walk on eggshellsclick to expand
Well I don't want to make a paragraph about myself, but one thing I do, consciously or not, is that I don't like to consider myself as an individual, I don't like to contemplate myself, physically or intellectually. I don't like to look at my face, even though I used to think I looked okay. I am my own blind spot. I am the wind and the mountains, I don't want to be reduced to a monkey in clothes. I don't like to have a history of myself either.
Which would mean my self esteem is either zero, or the infinite (or both).
But well, that's not the point, you guys are talking about a certain astro-related method, and if the result is 4.25, then so be it , I am the 4.25.
Posted by hydorahPosted by MidAtBestPosted by hydorahI've noticed that some people are blind to their own self-assurance. and it's common for pisces to have low self-esteem (all of the universal signs really). signs of your self-assurance: you're chased, never thirsty, resilient enough to never shame-delete, probably don't ever stutter, probably don't feel the need to smile around others when you don't feel like it nor walk on eggshellsPosted by cuddlebearnice thank you I knew you' post it , I don't have time to create an account over there.Posted by hydorahyour self esteem is 4.52 (danger zone)
y'all will be so amazed whe you see my method, I ran it on thousands of people and it's always more or less accurate (all it requires is a six sided dice)
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That said I don't think it's true, I don't really have high self esteem, I have narc/sociopath tendencies but not high self esteem
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Well I don't want to make a paragraph about myself, but one thing I do, consciously or not, is that I don't like to consider myself as an individual, I don't like to contemplate myself, physically or intellectually. I don't like to look at my face, even though I used to think I looked okay. I am my own blind spot. I am the wind and the mountains, I don't want to be reduced to a monkey in clothes. I don't like to have a history of myself either.
Which would mean my self esteem is either zero, or the infinite (or both).
But well, that's not the point, you guys are talking about a certain astro-related method, and if the result is 4.25, then so be it , I am the 4.25.click to expand
that's beautiful baby 😉
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by WoolyLabia
Checks out with my global 5
that's another thing I noticed, people with higher self-esteems have clearly defined moral codes that they expect others to adhere to. can be virtue-signalers. I have almost no moral code as a Satanist except that I feel strongly that women who baby-trap/have children out of wedlock/gestate pregnancies that they can't afford are usually evil or stupid
I got RLOEN which matches up with ISTJ. I wish I knew the percentage of people like me (probably a majority, ISTJ is supposedly the most common personality type)click to expand
you say that like men don't trap women that way too. did you have a less than desirable relationship with your mom or a maternal figure? just curious, you don't have to answer if you're not comfortable.
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBestPosted by WoolyLabiathat's another thing I noticed, people with higher self-esteems have clearly defined moral codes that they expect others to adhere to. can be virtue-signalers. I have almost no moral code as a Satanist except that I feel strongly that women who baby-trap/have children out of wedlock/gestate pregnancies that they can't afford are usually evil or stupid
Checks out with my global 5
I got RLOEN which matches up with ISTJ. I wish I knew the percentage of people like me (probably a majority, ISTJ is supposedly the most common personality type)
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you say that like men don't trap women that way too. did you have a less than desirable relationship with your mom or a maternal figure? just curious, you don't have to answer if you're not comfortable.click to expand
I definitely did. severely. my dad is the preferred parent. my justification is that Plan B is only $ 50, affordable for most people if they know they are at risk of unwanted pregnancy. but I know sometimes women realize too late that he popped the condom or messed with her pills etc, those are exceptional cases. I'm partly projecting my relationship with my mom, but also the prevalence of daughters being loved so much less. learned about that in rehab: sons who did drugs were given excuse after excuse, daughters were shamed and abandoned
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBestyou say that like men don't trap women that way too. did you have a less than desirable relationship with your mom or a maternal figure? just curious, you don't have to answer if you're not comfortable.Posted by WoolyLabiathat's another thing I noticed, people with higher self-esteems have clearly defined moral codes that they expect others to adhere to. can be virtue-signalers. I have almost no moral code as a Satanist except that I feel strongly that women who baby-trap/have children out of wedlock/gestate pregnancies that they can't afford are usually evil or stupid
Checks out with my global 5
I got RLOEN which matches up with ISTJ. I wish I knew the percentage of people like me (probably a majority, ISTJ is supposedly the most common personality type)
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I definitely did. severely. my dad is the preferred parent. my justification is that Plan B is only $ 50, affordable for most people if they know they are at risk of unwanted pregnancy. but I know sometimes women realize too late that he popped the condom or messed with her pills etc, those are exceptional cases. I'm partly projecting my relationship with my mom, but also the prevalence of daughters being loved so much less. learned about that in rehab: sons who did drugs were given excuse after excuse, daughters were shamed and abandonedclick to expand
def i've noticed that too yet the expectations for daughters are so much higher which sucks even more. i've personally had 2 maternal figures growing up (my actual mom who is super chill but distant and my gran who was a super toxic, controlling tyrant). this ofc bolstered my love for my mom coz she's not irritating in comparison to this toxic old lady.
i like distance and bit of coldness in friendships but the opposite in romantic relationships coz my dad sure was nuts about my mom until his death. always best to go with someone nuttier about you than the other way around.
Posted by virgoOPPPPosted by MidAtBestPosted by virgoOPPPI definitely did. severely. my dad is the preferred parent. my justification is that Plan B is only $ 50, affordable for most people if they know they are at risk of unwanted pregnancy. but I know sometimes women realize too late that he popped the condom or messed with her pills etc, those are exceptional cases. I'm partly projecting my relationship with my mom, but also the prevalence of daughters being loved so much less. learned about that in rehab: sons who did drugs were given excuse after excuse, daughters were shamed and abandonedPosted by MidAtBestyou say that like men don't trap women that way too. did you have a less than desirable relationship with your mom or a maternal figure? just curious, you don't have to answer if you're not comfortable.Posted by WoolyLabiathat's another thing I noticed, people with higher self-esteems have clearly defined moral codes that they expect others to adhere to. can be virtue-signalers. I have almost no moral code as a Satanist except that I feel strongly that women who baby-trap/have children out of wedlock/gestate pregnancies that they can't afford are usually evil or stupid
Checks out with my global 5
I got RLOEN which matches up with ISTJ. I wish I knew the percentage of people like me (probably a majority, ISTJ is supposedly the most common personality type)
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go with someone nuttier about you than the other way around.click to expand
Many Geminis are allergic to such strategy unfortunately
computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
Posted by cuddlebear
I've checked the self esteem of people I know and noticed some things, especially based on workplace
1) people will tend to consistently associate and hang out with those with a similar level of self esteem as them, regardless of dynamics
2) everyone will desperately try to bang the person with the highest self esteem, regardless of dynamics and even if they have a mediocre attraction score towards them and even are the lower attraction person comparatively. If the high self esteem person is unattractive, people will go out of their way to serve them
3) people with high self esteem consistently enter dynamics where the other person invests more in them. They likely attract that kind of treatment. Women with a self esteem over 4 will tend to have more green, purple and blue dynamics, with a self esteem over 5 lots of blue dynamics
4) investment matters more for men than for women and determines their treatment better than attraction. If a woman is the one investing significantly (20-30% ) more than a man from his perspective, he'll treat her like absolute shit and take advantage. Type of treatment where he won't even deem her worthy of talking to. And even if the attraction score is high, she'll still have very low value to him. Lower percentages are more acceptable. Not a single male I had purple dynamics with remained in my life they all ghosted me, but green dynamics stick around the most.
5) cancer men (notorious ghosting fuckboys and assholes) prefer to enter red x relationships where they have all the power
6) I don't know a single man with whom I have a blue dynamic. Red dynamics trigger me so badly emotionally, they completely wreck my self esteem. Purple dynamics destroy my self esteem and upset me too because they don't even indicate in any way that they find me attractive, just act flaky and devalue me. Only men who invest more in me make me feel okay and since I don't get blue men it's all green relationships
7) low self esteem people who like you less than you like yourself and more than they like themselves might like you at first but eventually feel resentful and perceive you as arrogant
8) it seems men like to play it safe, most women I know are in green and red relationships
Thank you so much for your conclusions! I totally agree about self-esteem and male investment. I might be delusional about purple relationships but the green ones have personally enraged me. Like lots of the bosses involved in me getting fired from the job I treasured last January, I was green with.
I've definitely noticed that purple guys don't take me seriously but they come back around after youve moved on. Then you can kind of riff and it's chill. It's probably something in my chart that makes me loathe green relationships. I'll save your conclusions in my notes.
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computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
You have the same self-esteem as Nichol Kessinger, Chris Watts' mistress. She was born July 3rd, Cancer sun, Mercury-Venus Gemini, Pisces Mars, likely moon & rising Pisces
You also have the same self-esteem as Travis Scott. He was born April 30th with Taurus sun, Aries Mercury, Gemini Venus, Cancer Mars, likely Sag moon and rising
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computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
You have the same self-esteem as Nichol Kessinger, Chris Watts' mistress. She was born July 3rd, Cancer sun, Mercury-Venus Gemini, Pisces Mars, likely moon & rising Pisces
You also have the same self-esteem as Travis Scott. He was born April 30th with Taurus sun, Aries Mercury, Gemini Venus, Cancer Mars, likely Sag moon and risingclick to expand
Posted by hydorahPosted by MidAtBestPosted by hydorahYou have the same self-esteem as Nichol Kessinger, Chris Watts' mistress. She was born July 3rd, Cancer sun, Mercury-Venus Gemini, Pisces Mars, likely moon & rising Pisces
computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
You also have the same self-esteem as Travis Scott. He was born April 30th with Taurus sun, Aries Mercury, Gemini Venus, Cancer Mars, likely Sag moon and rising
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You don't have Leo rising, right? (It's ok if you don't know or don't want to share)
I do & I like other Leo rising folks
I tried to find your birth time using my timeanddate method but it would've given you a sag moon (your moon rising time was around 11:30pm), since I thought you had scorp moon, 3pm wouldve given you 29° scorp moon (and Leo rising)
Sucks we only have a yod & t-square in composite. I do have gem Venus & sag moon though 😏
Posted by MidAtBestPosted by hydorahPosted by MidAtBestPosted by hydorahYou have the same self-esteem as Nichol Kessinger, Chris Watts' mistress. She was born July 3rd, Cancer sun, Mercury-Venus Gemini, Pisces Mars, likely moon & rising Pisces
computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
You also have the same self-esteem as Travis Scott. He was born April 30th with Taurus sun, Aries Mercury, Gemini Venus, Cancer Mars, likely Sag moon and rising
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You don't have Leo rising, right? (It's ok if you don't know or don't want to share)
I do & I like other Leo rising folks
I tried to find your birth time using my timeanddate method but it would've given you a sag moon (your moon rising time was around 11:30pm), since I thought you had scorp moon, 3pm wouldve given you 29° scorp moon (and Leo rising)
Sucks we only have a yod & t-square in composite. I do have gem Venus & sag moon though 😏click to expand
I don't share my rising, it's the only element I can hide from DXP astro creeps
Posted by cuddlebearPosted by MidAtBestPosted by cuddlebearThank you so much for your conclusions! I totally agree about self-esteem and male investment. I might be delusional about purple relationships but the green ones have personally enraged me. Like lots of the bosses involved in me getting fired from the job I treasured last January, I was green with.
I've checked the self esteem of people I know and noticed some things, especially based on workplace
1) people will tend to consistently associate and hang out with those with a similar level of self esteem as them, regardless of dynamics
2) everyone will desperately try to bang the person with the highest self esteem, regardless of dynamics and even if they have a mediocre attraction score towards them and even are the lower attraction person comparatively. If the high self esteem person is unattractive, people will go out of their way to serve them
3) people with high self esteem consistently enter dynamics where the other person invests more in them. They likely attract that kind of treatment. Women with a self esteem over 4 will tend to have more green, purple and blue dynamics, with a self esteem over 5 lots of blue dynamics
4) investment matters more for men than for women and determines their treatment better than attraction. If a woman is the one investing significantly (20-30% ) more than a man from his perspective, he'll treat her like absolute shit and take advantage. Type of treatment where he won't even deem her worthy of talking to. And even if the attraction score is high, she'll still have very low value to him. Lower percentages are more acceptable. Not a single male I had purple dynamics with remained in my life they all ghosted me, but green dynamics stick around the most.
5) cancer men (notorious ghosting fuckboys and assholes) prefer to enter red x relationships where they have all the power
6) I don't know a single man with whom I have a blue dynamic. Red dynamics trigger me so badly emotionally, they completely wreck my self esteem. Purple dynamics destroy my self esteem and upset me too because they don't even indicate in any way that they find me attractive, just act flaky and devalue me. Only men who invest more in me make me feel okay and since I don't get blue men it's all green relationships
7) low self esteem people who like you less than you like yourself and more than they like themselves might like you at first but eventually feel resentful and perceive you as arrogant
8) it seems men like to play it safe, most women I know are in green and red relationships
I've definitely noticed that purple guys don't take me seriously but they come back around after youve moved on. Then you can kind of riff and it's chill. It's probably something in my chart that makes me loathe green relationships. I'll save your conclusions in my notes.
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I think it's based on childhood trauma and relationships with parents mainly. My relationship with both of my parents is purple
I'm 35% more invested in my mother (from her perspective 25% ) and I'm 9.5% more invested in my father, (50/50) from his perspective
this must be why it triggers me when I'm the one investing more. In fact the last person that brought me immense emotional pain (red victim dynamic with high attraction score) I have similar perceived investment score with them as I do with my mother (40% more invested!). I got so traumatised by that I can barely tolerate the person investing even 5% less than me
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I really feel for you. My mom and I are blue but her attraction is way down at 2.14 or smth, my dad and I are purple and he's around 2.9. I won't get into her but she gave me BPD and now I avoid older women like the plague. My dad's detached but tolerant. Thus attraction matters to me more. Esp as someone with self-image issues
I imagine you're pretty chill being single since your parents didn't emotionally support you it seems, but I hope you meet some dashing green/blue men in your life before long
Posted by WoolyLabiaPosted by MidAtBestPosted by hydorahYou have the same self-esteem as Nichol Kessinger, Chris Watts' mistress. She was born July 3rd, Cancer sun, Mercury-Venus Gemini, Pisces Mars, likely moon & rising Pisces
computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
You also have the same self-esteem as Travis Scott. He was born April 30th with Taurus sun, Aries Mercury, Gemini Venus, Cancer Mars, likely Sag moon and rising
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What about me who has same self esteem as me do u know?click to expand
I have no idea what your birthday is :p but I remember I read your chart a long time ago
hydorah's is easy to remember because of Shaquille o'neal
@cuddlebear wanna help this brutha out
update: nvm thanks for posting it. You have the same self-esteem as Hailey Bieber. She was born November 22nd and has Sag sun-Mercury, Libra Venus, Virgo Mars, likely Taurus rising & moon
Posted by cuddlebearPosted by hydorah
computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
idk but you have a walk you like a dog dynamic with ands where you invest more and you like him more (he walks you like a dog)click to expand
I walk Ands like a dog though it says, & he's my victim
Posted by cuddlebearPosted by MidAtBestPosted by cuddlebearI walk Ands like a dog though it says, & he's my victimPosted by hydorahidk but you have a walk you like a dog dynamic with ands where you invest more and you like him more (he walks you like a dog)
computer, calculate the chart with similar self esteem as me (no fire suns)
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you must avenge dory
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Ands' attraction is only 2.6 though and it shows 💀
omg Ands & Firebunny have peacock relationship with ands as the patriarch and bunny as the victim
so Ands has the hots for him after all
Ands' attraction to DXPers:
1. Firebunny
2. Me
3. Cloudy
4. Hydorah
so Ands has the hots for him after all
Ands' attraction to DXPers:
1. Firebunny
2. Me
3. Cloudy
4. Hydorah
Are you guys having a giggle?
ands pick up your teletubbies, it's time for your nap
ands pick up your teletubbies, it's time for your nap
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