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Opps trigger happy fingers 🙂

Anywho she's a Leo and I agree with her. Please watch before commenting she brings up good points.

I read somethings not to long ago where women have significantly lower self esteem than men (no surprise there) and it's even more pronounced in western culture (definitely no surprise).

I also read an article about a man dealing with rejection (his greatest fear) he ends up forcing himself to make a daily effort to get rejected until it was no longer a fear. And it worked!

I wouldn't be surprised the reason for women flocking to this site asking (to us old timers) questions with obviously glaring answers (yet the refuse to acknowledge) has to do with deep seeded fears of rejection.

Or maybe I'm projecting. What do you guys think?
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Posted by wecarealot
xtina, I'm glad you posted this, and I absolutely agree with you. There's a guy that I like at my own job that I've posted about here. I have a huge crush on him, and I'm completely chickening out of asking him out (I know it's a faux pas to date people at work but the way we're set up, he's in a totally different building so I rarely even see him except on some days). I like what you wrote about getting rejected so much that you no longer fear it. That's the main way to deal with most fears, and it sucks that so few girls (myself included) have the courage.
Is it really faux pas? 😢 That's where I normally find them …†

Yes, I find it important we raise women self esteem. Especially with medias portrayal of ideal beauty and being the perfect woman and what not maybe we can tick this off as a burden to our self esteem
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Men by nature are hunters. Well at least the alpha males are and alpha males are the only ones I would ever settle down with because they're the only ones that can handle my fire. Not to mention alphas know how to put it DOWN in the bedroom lol. Anyway, alpha males go after what they want. I'm not attracted to any man that's too afraid to pursue me or that I have to pursue first. There's no reasoning in the world that will ever sway me from that opinion.
However, some girls like those easy-to-control, won't-bust-a-grape-in-a-fruit-fight betas. Hey, more power to you...I guess.
I remember when I use to only go for alphas. Gets boring after a while *yawn* predictable.

No, I like the omegas. The lone wolfs. The ones you can't always pin down. Or get under your thumb. I guess because I like a challenge. Or because I'm an omega too.

Yeah it's fun to do what everyone is doing after a time but then I like to branch out, be brave, exciting, and daring and try new things you know?
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When I was 18 I went to jobcorps and this guy in my group who was a virgo was charming. He always brought Skittles to class. One day I asked him if I could taste his rainbow. He said yes.
We met outside in the rain and kissed. He was mine after that.
Daaawwwww how sweet!! What was his sign? I love stories like this! Thank you for sharing
He was a virgo sun. Pisces moon and aries mars.
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Did anything ever become of it?
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Men by nature are hunters. Well at least the alpha males are and alpha males are the only ones I would ever settle down with because they're the only ones that can handle my fire. Not to mention alphas know how to put it DOWN in the bedroom lol. Anyway, alpha males go after what they want. I'm not attracted to any man that's too afraid to pursue me or that I have to pursue first. There's no reasoning in the world that will ever sway me from that opinion.
However, some girls like those easy-to-control, won't-bust-a-grape-in-a-fruit-fight betas. Hey, more power to you...I guess.
I remember when I use to only go for alphas. Gets boring after a while *yawn* predictable.

No, I like the omegas. The lone wolfs. The ones you can't always pin down. Or get under your thumb. I guess because I like a challenge. Or because I'm an omega too.

Yeah it's fun to do what everyone is doing after a time but then I like to branch out, be brave, exciting, and daring and try new things you know?
There are alphas that aren't obnoxious, loud, or seemingly outgoing. I too, am into the reserved type of guys. I like laid back guys that are chill. The laid back guys can be alphas too! Those are the best ones. You think they're all shy, but when you finally catch their eye they hone in on you and go after you in the subtlest ways possible. SUCH a turn on. Yes, those men are still alphas.
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Oh man the shy and quiet ones are my Achilles heel
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When I was 18 I went to jobcorps and this guy in my group who was a virgo was charming. He always brought Skittles to class. One day I asked him if I could taste his rainbow. He said yes.
We met outside in the rain and kissed. He was mine after that.
Daaawwwww how sweet!! What was his sign? I love stories like this! Thank you for sharing
He was a virgo sun. Pisces moon and aries mars.
Did anything ever become of it?
We got in trouble. We both went to jail he used meth and I helped him all the way to rehab. He was a beautiful spirit. He would read the bible on the toilet.
Hes clean now and has a beautiful baby with a Gemini sun. And cap moon girl
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I'm glad it turned out alright. I really am

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I agree for the most part with the video.
Although, she does seem to have a lot of cats.......

I've noticed a distinct difference in Western and Eastern cultures.
In Western culture ( unless the man throws money around ) women don't approach men. I'll leave the reasons why to the feminists and "alpha" males on this site.
In far Eastern cultures IMHO, the woman will approach a man and strike up a conversation. Nothing may come of it, but if there is an interest, she will approach.
Vast difference.
Although I have to admit Eastern European women drop a LOT of heavy hints to spur a male she is interested in that she wants to talk to him.
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Opps trigger happy fingers 🙂

Anywho she's a Leo and I agree with her. Please watch before commenting she brings up good points.

I read somethings not to long ago where women have significantly lower self esteem than men (no surprise there) and it's even more pronounced in western culture (definitely no surprise).

I also read an article about a man dealing with rejection (his greatest fear) he ends up forcing himself to make a daily effort to get rejected until it was no longer a fear. And it worked!

I wouldn't be surprised the reason for women flocking to this site asking (to us old timers) questions with obviously glaring answers (yet the refuse to acknowledge) has to do with deep seeded fears of rejection.

Or maybe I'm projecting. What do you guys think?
She sounds and acts like a dude.

Anyway - I've been asked out before. I disliked it and never agreed to it. If I like you, I'll ask you out. Can you imagine telling your kids one day that mom asked dad out? Terrible.
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"She sounds and acts like a dude"

I know. I totally LOVE it 😄

Hey, hey, hey let's not get carried away and ahead of yourself now... I only asked you out for a cup of coffee, not your hand in marriage 😉
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I agree for the most part with the video.
Although, she does seem to have a lot of cats.......

I've noticed a distinct difference in Western and Eastern cultures.
In Western culture ( unless the man throws money around ) women don't approach men. I'll leave the reasons why to the feminists and "alpha" males on this site.
In far Eastern cultures IMHO, the woman will approach a man and strike up a conversation. Nothing may come of it, but if there is an interest, she will approach.
Vast difference.
Although I have to admit Eastern European women drop a LOT of heavy hints to spur a male she is interested in that she wants to talk to him.
You noticed the cats too 😄
Sounds like you're speaking from experience C 😄
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Okay, this chica needs some serious asterisks on her points.

I don't disagree with them, but I do.

First off, I'm not a huge fan of women making the first move. ONLY if they aren't 100% sure if dude has interest. We've seen it happen all too much here, and I dunno about you all, but I've seen it quite a bit irl as well. Girls spend so much time pondering and reading into stupid STUPID shit that they aren't paying attention to what's REALLY going on. THOSE girls should not ask a dude out, period.

Why? Cause some dudes are shady as fuck and will use that to their advantage and use the chick. We've all seen and heard about it -"HE'S SO CONFUUUUSING. I'M SO CONFUUUUUUSED. I'M FUCKING HIM WEEKLY BUT HE'S SENDING ME HOT/COLD SIGNALS—"

*sigh*

Now say, if you know, without a doubt, that dude is into you and IS the shy type, sure there is no problem with her initiating first. But you gotta have a female that knows her shit and can tell the guy is too shy to initiate anything.

Tbh, for those of you who have been involved with a guy with TRUE interest, was it really THAT hard to tell? I have yet to meet a guy who was "too shy" to ask a girl out that he was truly into. Sure, they exist, but I don't think that example should be used as the rule, as many women do. They substitute disinterest with "shy" and use it as an excuse to chase a dude who really isn't all that into them. They just can't see it because THEY are so into dude they're reading into miniscule shit that means nothing when the writing is on the wall.

So should a woman chase and ask a dude out? Generally, no. If she does, she should be well aware that the guy is actually interested. I think the asking the guy out bit should be for women who actually know how to read guys, tbh. We have too many immature, childish "girls" out there trying to date and they live life like it's a romantic comedy. In turn, they have NO idea how guys work or how to read them and end up getting taken for a ride (no pun intended). Men do not think like women, which is something these "girls" need to learn before they go out there with big girl panties and ask guys out.
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Just once or only the first time or always ?
Not always that's for sure. I like to be chased too.

But if he's irresitible i think I might have to 🙂
What if you initiated and He only said yes for sex ?
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Bwahaha what kind of stupid ass question is that?

It's not like I'll be asking:
"Will you:
A. Go out with me
B. Marry me
Or
C. just have sex with me, ONLY sex
Check all that applies"
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I'm all for this.
Of course, likely most of the people that like to do the asking are already doing so.

I personally see no reason to sit around and wait for the guy to ask if it's something that's on my mind. And any guy who wouldn't like me asking them wouldn't be a good match for me, anyway.
There are also those who enjoy being asked and that's fine no matter what gender you are.

Do whatever makes you happy.
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Okay, this chica needs some serious asterisks on her points.

I don't disagree with them, but I do.

First off, I'm not a huge fan of women making the first move. ONLY if they aren't 100% sure if dude has interest. We've seen it happen all too much here, and I dunno about you all, but I've seen it quite a bit irl as well. Girls spend so much time pondering and reading into stupid STUPID shit that they aren't paying attention to what's REALLY going on. THOSE girls should not ask a dude out, period.

Why? Cause some dudes are shady as fuck and will use that to their advantage and use the chick. We've all seen and heard about it -"HE'S SO CONFUUUUSING. I'M SO CONFUUUUUUSED. I'M FUCKING HIM WEEKLY BUT HE'S SENDING ME HOT/COLD SIGNALS—"

*sigh*

Now say, if you know, without a doubt, that dude is into you and IS the shy type, sure there is no problem with her initiating first. But you gotta have a female that knows her shit and can tell the guy is too shy to initiate anything.

Tbh, for those of you who have been involved with a guy with TRUE interest, was it really THAT hard to tell? I have yet to meet a guy who was "too shy" to ask a girl out that he was truly into. Sure, they exist, but I don't think that example should be used as the rule, as many women do. They substitute disinterest with "shy" and use it as an excuse to chase a dude who really isn't all that into them. They just can't see it because THEY are so into dude they're reading into miniscule shit that means nothing when the writing is on the wall.

So should a woman chase and ask a dude out? Generally, no. If she does, she should be well aware that the guy is actually interested. I think the asking the guy out bit should be for women who actually know how to read guys, tbh. We have too many immature, childish "girls" out there trying to date and they live life like it's a romantic comedy. In turn, they have NO idea how guys work or how to read them and end up getting taken for a ride (no pun intended). Men do not think like women, which is something these "girls" need to learn before they go out there with big girl panties and ask guys out.
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I'm all for this.
Of course, likely most of the people that like to do the asking are already doing so.

I personally see no reason to sit around and wait for the guy to ask if it's something that's on my mind. And any guy who wouldn't like me asking them wouldn't be a good match for me, anyway.
There are also those who enjoy being asked and that's fine no matter what gender you are.

Do whatever makes you happy.
Live and let live I always say 🙂
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Just once or only the first time or always ?
Not always that's for sure. I like to be chased too.

But if he's irresitible i think I might have to 🙂
What if you initiated and He only said yes for sex ?
Bwahaha what kind of stupid ass question is that?

It's not like I'll be asking:
"Will you:
A. Go out with me
B. Marry me
Or
C. just have sex with me, ONLY sex
Check all that applies"
Tell that to my bro !
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You just proved my point. The problem we have is that a lot of women (and a lot of guys, apparently) aren't aware of how ridiculous some guys are and what extent they'll go to in order to get laid. I say what I say because I've had a LOT of guy friends and the shit I've seen plus the insight they've given me when I asked about guys and their behavior has been a pretty big learning tool for me.

"Hmm, she's not bad. I wouldn't date her, but man, a not so bad lookin' chick hitting me up? I could hit that."
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Okay, this chica needs some serious asterisks on her points.

I don't disagree with them, but I do.

First off, I'm not a huge fan of women making the first move. ONLY if they aren't 100% sure if dude has interest. We've seen it happen all too much here, and I dunno about you all, but I've seen it quite a bit irl as well. Girls spend so much time pondering and reading into stupid STUPID shit that they aren't paying attention to what's REALLY going on. THOSE girls should not ask a dude out, period.

Why? Cause some dudes are shady as fuck and will use that to their advantage and use the chick. We've all seen and heard about it -"HE'S SO CONFUUUUSING. I'M SO CONFUUUUUUSED. I'M FUCKING HIM WEEKLY BUT HE'S SENDING ME HOT/COLD SIGNALS—"

*sigh*

Now say, if you know, without a doubt, that dude is into you and IS the shy type, sure there is no problem with her initiating first. But you gotta have a female that knows her shit and can tell the guy is too shy to initiate anything.

Tbh, for those of you who have been involved with a guy with TRUE interest, was it really THAT hard to tell? I have yet to meet a guy who was "too shy" to ask a girl out that he was truly into. Sure, they exist, but I don't think that example should be used as the rule, as many women do. They substitute disinterest with "shy" and use it as an excuse to chase a dude who really isn't all that into them. They just can't see it because THEY are so into dude they're reading into miniscule shit that means nothing when the writing is on the wall.

So should a woman chase and ask a dude out? Generally, no. If she does, she should be well aware that the guy is actually interested. I think the asking the guy out bit should be for women who actually know how to read guys, tbh. We have too many immature, childish "girls" out there trying to date and they live life like it's a romantic comedy. In turn, they have NO idea how guys work or how to read them and end up getting taken for a ride (no pun intended). Men do not think like women, which is something these "girls" need to learn before they go out there with big girl panties and ask guys out.
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Just once or only the first time or always ?
Not always that's for sure. I like to be chased too.

But if he's irresitible i think I might have to 🙂
What if you initiated and He only said yes for sex ?
Bwahaha what kind of stupid ass question is that?

It's not like I'll be asking:
"Will you:
A. Go out with me
B. Marry me
Or
C. just have sex with me, ONLY sex
Check all that applies"
Tell that to my bro !
You just proved my point. The problem we have is that a lot of women (and a lot of guys, apparently) aren't aware of how ridiculous some guys are and what extent they'll go to in order to get laid. I say what I say because I've had a LOT of guy friends and the butter I've seen plus the insight they've given me when I asked about guys and their behavior has been a pretty big learning tool for me.

"Hmm, she's not bad. I wouldn't date her, but man, a not so bad lookin' chick hitting me up? I could hit that."
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Thanks rocky we'd all be lost and have no clue what to do with our lives if it weren't for your words of wise don.
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Posted by Arielle83
I think the woman's in denial.
Her voice cracked a bit in some of the whiny parts.
Maybe she made the video to heal herself and let it all out.

Overall, I don't care how ppl ask each other out. If you want something, you should be able to try and get it.
Maybe... But I think that makes her more beautiful. Everyone's denied reality at some point in time in their life. To never have experienced denial... Well, you'd have to be a superhuman robot 🙂
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Posted by YourMajesty
I m all for women empowerment. I think they should be able to choose or initiate . Yes there are men who might take advantage but its just part of the way dating game is played. Its not like when men initiate they don't get wounded. Some women reject them so badly they might never or take long period . Other times women use money to pay them out of debt, school , child support etc. So yes they should be ready for risks too .As a guy we should encourage them esp if we are currently single and have no daughters and sisters.
Hopefully this will empower men too. The more women that empathize and realize the courage it takes to put yourself out there. And understand being vulnerable to someone that could shoot you down is scary. Hopefully it might teach them to be less of a bitch when they turn down someone 🙂
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Posted by wecarealot
I'm not sure there really is a way to bypass this whole 'men only want sex, girls want relationships' conundrum. It sounds like a lot of guys out there will say anything to a girl to get in bed with her and if that's truly the case, it's going to be hard to gauge whether a guy is serious or not right off the bat. If a person is willing to lie to such a degree just to get laid, then you have to have some super intense intuition/gut instincts about them. Withholding sex won't even work because you could never know if they're dating chicks on the side to stay satisfied until you give in.

Sucks. I wonder if dating nerds is better.
Nope.

I noticed all across the board whether it be monogamy, polygamy, gay, straight, bi, or unicorn there are always issues and I think it's more deep rooted than guys wanting sex. A lot of people exercise their logical intelligence but few understand their emotional intelligence. If that makes sense.
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Posted by Arielle83
I think the woman's in denial.
Her voice cracked a bit in some of the whiny parts.
Maybe she made the video to heal herself and let it all out.

Overall, I don't care how ppl ask each other out. If you want something, you should be able to try and get it.
She did seem a bit hurt when talking about the possible reasons guys have rejected her in the past, but I still think it's brave of her to not only ask guys out but continue to ask them out even after facing so much rejection. That takes guts, especially if she's still hurting over past rejections. Most men don't even have that kind of courage.

And astrologically speaking, if she is a Leo, it makes sense that past rejections would still hurt. Leos can be brave in that fire sign kind of way, but their egos are still sensitive as hell.
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Rejection hurts for I'd say 99.99% of people... Rejection doesn't hurt sociopaths though... At least I don't think... They might feign it 🙂
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Posted by xtina
I can't break everything down for you Rocky, oh no. You might do so kindly for me but I believe in tough love. Figure it out. You have a brain. Use it.
Wow. What's with the twatastic behavior? I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers because your lady boner for this Leo chick was ruined. My bad.

You must have issues with the subject if you're taking personal offense to what I wrote. If you're not one of these silly bitches who can't understand men at all, then wtf is the problem?
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I can't break everything down for you Rocky, oh no. You might do so kindly for me but I believe in tough love. Figure it out. You have a brain. Use it.
Wow. What's with the twatastic behavior? I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers because your lady boner for this Leo chick was ruined. My bad.

You must have issues with the subject if you're taking personal offense to what I wrote. If you're not one of these silly bitches who can't understand men at all, then wtf is the problem?
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From what I've witnessed over the years, the girls that ask guys out usually end up confused in the so called relationship because the guys don't seem take them seriously.

I like traditional gender roles, but that's my personal preference.

Go for what you want, but do it elegantly and gracefully.
I've personally only witnessed a few. Some work out, others don't. It's a good thing to keep in mind though. To know yourself. But I think that should be a given with any relationship.
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From what I've witnessed over the years, the girls that ask guys out usually end up confused in the so called relationship because the guys don't seem take them seriously.

I like traditional gender roles, but that's my personal preference.

Go for what you want, but do it elegantly and gracefully.
I've personally only witnessed a few. Some work out, others don't. It's a good thing to keep in mind though. To know yourself. But I think that should be a given with any relationship.
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Sure, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Just most of the time what I've seen doesn't work out. The gals end up getting presented with a FWB offer rather than what they really want. And sometimes when it does work out the men are weak and the woman runs the whole shebang. Only a few have ended in very balanced happy relationships.
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