ragonar
@ragonar
11 YearsSagittarius
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Anger trouble: T-square Pluto-Mars-Saturn??
Whew, what a chart. Well, a few things I would advise is to respect the space of others,
don't contribute to the mayhem (drama), and practice self-restraint. And keep your noise down.
don't contribute to the mayhem (drama), and practice self-restraint. And keep your noise down.
I do get really loud, and I've been told I impose myself too much.
But the real problem is that now I notice I'm being this way, but only after when it's too late, like I act so fast and when I'm telling myself to keep calm I've already done the harm. It's like my emotions are boiling hot and I can't help myself.
Do you think there is something I could do so I could restrain myself better?
And thank you for replying 🙂
But the real problem is that now I notice I'm being this way, but only after when it's too late, like I act so fast and when I'm telling myself to keep calm I've already done the harm. It's like my emotions are boiling hot and I can't help myself.
Do you think there is something I could do so I could restrain myself better?
And thank you for replying 🙂
1. in case of doubt you go for your own rights.
2. before getting there you try hard to be a sociable person. You learn to be polite and respectful to others.
3. sun, moon, Mercury and mars all in fire signs? clearly you are one to have a bad temper.
3.a) use sport to channel the energy.
3.b) Keep distance with events going on. Nothing is really that serious in life. Not even death.
3.c) You can also take a theater course to channel it to playful actions. Mars in Leo.
4. You have several Mars-Aspects. Read for example these:
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/another-study-with-hard-mars-aspects-5169141/ https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/mars-sign-and-theme-quote-of-your-mars-sign-5198271/
5. Your Moon in Aries and in communication house may also be sometimes your enemy. Here I found something from someone with similar Problem:
He/she likes to get Ps. So you can talk and see what methods he/she has used until now.
6. You must know any aspect or placement brings also good things into your life. You may be more assertive and go for your goals and chieve them better than many others. We have for examples articles here about Mars in Leo as the most common among american presidents.
7. Saturn in Pisces may bring you fears and bad dreams. Learn to grow up over them. We are all born with some amount of fear. Also when we fail this repertoir gets bigger. So no need for a never ending waterfall of fears.
7.a) also I think SatInPi will make that you have friendships with older People. So their advice may help you sometimes.
8. They say people never close their mouth. You can try hard and hard and compromise a lot, still somebody will be in a bad mood (or of a bad character) and critisizes you. (sorry, even average people are mechanical bodies of complaining)
8.a) hence be honest to change yourself but don't exagerate. Let things be half unresolved. Otherwise you get exhausted and then depressive.
2. before getting there you try hard to be a sociable person. You learn to be polite and respectful to others.
3. sun, moon, Mercury and mars all in fire signs? clearly you are one to have a bad temper.
3.a) use sport to channel the energy.
3.b) Keep distance with events going on. Nothing is really that serious in life. Not even death.
3.c) You can also take a theater course to channel it to playful actions. Mars in Leo.
4. You have several Mars-Aspects. Read for example these:
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/another-study-with-hard-mars-aspects-5169141/ https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/mars-sign-and-theme-quote-of-your-mars-sign-5198271/
5. Your Moon in Aries and in communication house may also be sometimes your enemy. Here I found something from someone with similar Problem:
Posted by piscesmoon2
Mercury in Aries... Is in m 3 house ... My Mercury in Aries actually bring out just about anything at the wrong time... and place... and what ever I am thinking... plus more...
It is kinda hard because my emotions can come pouring out... I keep trying to work on that ...PM
He/she likes to get Ps. So you can talk and see what methods he/she has used until now.
6. You must know any aspect or placement brings also good things into your life. You may be more assertive and go for your goals and chieve them better than many others. We have for examples articles here about Mars in Leo as the most common among american presidents.
7. Saturn in Pisces may bring you fears and bad dreams. Learn to grow up over them. We are all born with some amount of fear. Also when we fail this repertoir gets bigger. So no need for a never ending waterfall of fears.
7.a) also I think SatInPi will make that you have friendships with older People. So their advice may help you sometimes.
8. They say people never close their mouth. You can try hard and hard and compromise a lot, still somebody will be in a bad mood (or of a bad character) and critisizes you. (sorry, even average people are mechanical bodies of complaining)
8.a) hence be honest to change yourself but don't exagerate. Let things be half unresolved. Otherwise you get exhausted and then depressive.
9. I tell you: you have a life before you and you'll make it by cool head. After decades you look back and say to yourself, "I gave my best.". That is what life is about. To have the best intentions. But you cannot control everything. It's not even worth it. Enjoy the ride.
10. Also it may be (maybe, I am not sure) destructive to have Sun in 12th house. Cause it is said to be the house of hidden enemies. But I think you are so Young. It would really be a bad influence of Astrology if you start being your own enemy just because you read it somewhere.
10. Also it may be (maybe, I am not sure) destructive to have Sun in 12th house. Cause it is said to be the house of hidden enemies. But I think you are so Young. It would really be a bad influence of Astrology if you start being your own enemy just because you read it somewhere.
Posted by Wynter
Whew, what a chart. Well, a few things I would advise is to respect the space of others,
don't contribute to the mayhem (drama), and practice self-restraint. And keep your noise down.
I use so many lines and you tell it in two lines. interesting.
agree with you totally.
Posted by ragonar
I do get really loud, and I've been told I impose myself too much.
... only after when it's too late, ...
"impose myself"? Putting onself first when somebody else is sick and Needs 100% help, this is bad.
But normally if they say, "you impose yourself", they are jeleaous and trying to intimidate you.
Only if it comes from your grandmother, only then, it counts. The rest is competing with you. Don't let them take you down.
What is too late? You are a Youngster. You have credit to make mistakes. I mean for the matters of social interaction.
But if you lost a girl or a boy and this is the translation of "it's too late", then I have to tell you that editing oneself to keep people around yourself is the wrong way. Are you born in the year of Dog?
Thank you for all this!
You are right I really should get into sports as I've found I'm way more at ease when exhausted.
For the Saturn in Pisces: It's true I have some older friends giving me advice, but I have a really hard time taking criticism. They say I take it too much as an offense, and they are right, I know it's for my own good. But in my head it's like they are trying to turn me into something I'm not, like they want to mold me into a whole other person, and that is really upsetting.
I also tend to speak too harshly, even when not angry or anything. I will ask Piscesmoon2 about this problem
I will try and stop controlling everything, maybe it will all get better then 🙂
You are right I really should get into sports as I've found I'm way more at ease when exhausted.
For the Saturn in Pisces: It's true I have some older friends giving me advice, but I have a really hard time taking criticism. They say I take it too much as an offense, and they are right, I know it's for my own good. But in my head it's like they are trying to turn me into something I'm not, like they want to mold me into a whole other person, and that is really upsetting.
I also tend to speak too harshly, even when not angry or anything. I will ask Piscesmoon2 about this problem
I will try and stop controlling everything, maybe it will all get better then 🙂
^^^you're welcome.
well, this is common fate for Sags and Pisces. The down-to-earth signs think always they shoul teach us how to be correct.
My chart is more peaceful than yours. Still critisism kills me too. ??\_(—)_/
Posted by ragonar
... I have a really hard time taking criticism. They say I take it too much as an offense, and they are right, I know it's for my own good. But in my head it's like they are trying to turn me into something I'm not, like they want to mold me into a whole other person, and that is really upsetting.
well, this is common fate for Sags and Pisces. The down-to-earth signs think always they shoul teach us how to be correct.
My chart is more peaceful than yours. Still critisism kills me too. ??\_(—)_/
"impose myself": It's one of my superior at my work who told me that everytime i go somewhere I act like I own the place, like I am the boss and getting my nose into everything. I think she was trying to put me back in my place.
The "when I realize, it's too late", it's about the fact that when I get angry I just completely loose, I say the worst things and one time I even got violent, the person is ok now but he and the ones who know him never forgave me and probably never will, and I understand that. I just can't seem to get a hold of myself, I realize it's not the good way of doing things, only after i've done them. That is why I say "it's too late", I didn't do anything "dramatic" but it's just that you can't get back what you've done, what is done is done.
And yes I was born in 1994, year of the dog
The "when I realize, it's too late", it's about the fact that when I get angry I just completely loose, I say the worst things and one time I even got violent, the person is ok now but he and the ones who know him never forgave me and probably never will, and I understand that. I just can't seem to get a hold of myself, I realize it's not the good way of doing things, only after i've done them. That is why I say "it's too late", I didn't do anything "dramatic" but it's just that you can't get back what you've done, what is done is done.
And yes I was born in 1994, year of the dog
^^^^ ok, Dogs are loyal friends. this may be the reason why you are so upset when you lose people.
I am a Cat, an egoist. I have also an empty 7th house. If I lose friends then I say to myself, "ok, let's move on. they'll have new friends and I'll have new friends."
yeah, it must be hard for you.
I am a Cat, an egoist. I have also an empty 7th house. If I lose friends then I say to myself, "ok, let's move on. they'll have new friends and I'll have new friends."
yeah, it must be hard for you.
Posted by ragonar
"impose myself": It's one of my superior at my work who told me that everytime i go somewhere I act like I own the place, like I am the boss and getting my nose into everything. I think she was trying to put me back in my place.
I see.
Generally it is a good thing to be that way. But only in the long run. So one day you'd be my boss.
But as a young employee maybe it brings disturbance to the buisiness process. Maybe hyrarchie is important in that business and she feels you violate it. It's better you learn instead of knowing-it-all.
(BTW, is that woman a Scorpio or a Virgo by any chance? Anyway if you have still your job, then she must be a good person.)
"harsh"
is for my sense an issue of Scorpio, Pluto, 8th house. They are demoralizing. And you have it in your chart. Interesting enough Dog could be set to equivalent of Libra. I think you need at least one Libra friend. Ask and learn from them to be diplomatic. Or moderate at least.
Posted by ragonar
... I just can't seem to get a hold of myself... you can't get back what you've done, what is done is done...
you're right. It feels very bad. I know it. From my own wrong-doings.
But you did not know you had this potential until it happened, did you?
Now you know and want to do something about it. It is as good as being born without this potential. The good intention. Now you need dedication too. And you'll win.
Then I wish I was a cat! 🙂
I also have another question: Is there something in my chart that indicates the need to leave the country for good?
I was always completely obsessed with leaving the country and get a whole new life in the other side of the world. I absolutely can't picture myself staying in my country, not even in my continent and I've been studying other languages in my free time for so long, just so I am ready to go as soon as I can. I hate both my country and mother tongue for no logical reason.
I always wondered why I was like that since I'm not in a dictatorial country or anything.
I also have another question: Is there something in my chart that indicates the need to leave the country for good?
I was always completely obsessed with leaving the country and get a whole new life in the other side of the world. I absolutely can't picture myself staying in my country, not even in my continent and I've been studying other languages in my free time for so long, just so I am ready to go as soon as I can. I hate both my country and mother tongue for no logical reason.
I always wondered why I was like that since I'm not in a dictatorial country or anything.
For my superior I don't know her sign, but she's always acting like a know-it-all, telling everybody what they are without even knowing and actually accusing them of being things that are actually the opposite of the truth, and that is really unnerving! She does have good intentions though and I think she likes me, but her way of doing things makes me want to pull my hair really bad ^^
I know a few libras and they act friendly with me but I know they don't like me, always speaking bad about me behind my back and smily in front of me. Not to sound arrogant but they seem to be so jealous both of them, I don't know if it's about libras, but they really are. When they see mee arriving they up their game and try to get the attention of people so I'm not the one to get it. It is really weird, but I do admire how they keep their cool and never get into any argument,I wish I could do that 🙂
I know a few libras and they act friendly with me but I know they don't like me, always speaking bad about me behind my back and smily in front of me. Not to sound arrogant but they seem to be so jealous both of them, I don't know if it's about libras, but they really are. When they see mee arriving they up their game and try to get the attention of people so I'm not the one to get it. It is really weird, but I do admire how they keep their cool and never get into any argument,I wish I could do that 🙂
"Is there something in my chart that indicates the need to leave the country for good?"
Sun in Sag. LOL
then it is magnified by Mercury and Jupiter.
Sun in Sag. LOL
then it is magnified by Mercury and Jupiter.
no, nobody should really hate his homeland. But Sag abroad is like fish in water.
At this moment I am confused. We know that you are still RAW and needs to mature. A sudden change may accelerate the process. Or you get raped abroad and nobody can find your body ever. This is the bad side of being a Cat. We come with dark scenarios.
Do you have family or friends there where you want to go to?
At this moment I am confused. We know that you are still RAW and needs to mature. A sudden change may accelerate the process. Or you get raped abroad and nobody can find your body ever. This is the bad side of being a Cat. We come with dark scenarios.
Do you have family or friends there where you want to go to?
have anybody abroad, but going somewhere where I don't know a soul is part of the appeal 🙂
Posted by DwellingOnMovePosted by ragonar
... I just can't seem to get a hold of myself... you can't get back what you've done, what is done is done...
you're right. It feels very bad. I know it. From my own wrong-doings.
But you did not know you had this potential until it happened, did you?
Now you know and want to do something about it. It is as good as being born without this potential. The good intention. Now you need dedication too. And you'll win.click to expand
I knew I had something, but there was nothing to trigger it. As a teenager I had a few very close friends but was very antisocial with the others, but they seemed to be affraid of me for no apparent reason and never wanting to approach me. I always had some darks instincts, I loved to burn things up like notebooks and pretty much anything, or torturing the spiders in my room. But I never really lose it, it was all inside.
The guy I was talking about was my first boyfriend but the relationship grew really bad and he really hurt me, so it all got out, and after that I've hard the hardest time putting it all back in, I became aggressive with everybody 24/7 for no good reason.
I know I have a lot of this energy whatever this is but I also know I'm anything but a bad person and I want to channel it a good way, but I need to know how
ok, but not always life is about repetition. We should not set ourselves equal to our failures. Given other circumstances we can be angels.
If sh.t gets repeating, you'll need to go to doctor.
Until then learn from one bad stuff at a time.
Check when you have your bright side. Learn how to keep it at werk.
If sh.t gets repeating, you'll need to go to doctor.
Until then learn from one bad stuff at a time.
Check when you have your bright side. Learn how to keep it at werk.
I was thinking of seeing someone already, it will probably do me some good
Especially since I'm young and still acting like a big baby ^^
I still have a lot of maturing to do so hopefully I'll get better, like a good wine 🙂
Especially since I'm young and still acting like a big baby ^^
I still have a lot of maturing to do so hopefully I'll get better, like a good wine 🙂
I understand. still you're the captain of your ship. don't give your wholeness to nobody. not that boss woman. not the doctor and his/her meds. (I mean unless you killed somebody which I don't assume)
trust in yourself. trust in the process.
trust in yourself. trust in the process.
Lol I didn't kill anybody
And I'm still a hopefull optimistic sagittarius, I do trust I'm on my way to get better
And I'm still a hopefull optimistic sagittarius, I do trust I'm on my way to get better
very good. i like it.
Posted by ragonar
But the real problem is that now I notice I'm being this way, but only after when it's too late, like I act so fast and when I'm telling myself to keep calm I've already done the harm. It's like my emotions are boiling hot and I can't help myself.)
Re-Directing your energies to other outlets, like exercise, sport or even Yoga could help you focus on diverting a firey inner nature.
Try to imagine yourself on the receiving end of an impulsive outburst that only an Aries Moon can deliver 😄
Keep practicing on holding back, and you should be ok 🙂
Posted by DwellingOnMovePosted by Wynter
Whew, what a chart. Well, a few things I would advise is to respect the space of others,
don't contribute to the mayhem (drama), and practice self-restraint. And keep your noise down.
I use so many lines and you tell it in two lines. interesting.
agree with you totally.click to expand
I have a frugal Capricorn Mercury 😆
Plus I'm a lazy typer
I'm going to do some Taekwondo then, I always wanted to try ^^
Gurl, aint nuthin wrong with you. Go play some contact sports, including lots of sex.
Posted by DwellingOnMove
"Is there something in my chart that indicates the need to leave the country for good?"
Sun in Sag. LOL
then it is magnified by Mercury and Jupiter.
Haha great answer
oh my gosh, i joined so i could tell you that we have almost the exact same chart, but i'm a 0 degree virgo mars, and leo rising. i'm also 22, do we have the same birthday (dec.12)?
i was also looking for info on this mars-saturn-pluto t-square. mine is mars in 1st square pluto in 4th and opposite saturn in the 7th. my BML is in the 10th squaring mars opposite pluto.
i guess since you have 3rd house placements it really comes out in your communication? in my case i'm generally pretty reserved, especially at work, and it's the home life and relationships that have been turbulent.
hope you're still around (and sorry if i'm not supposed to reply to old topics ^_^).
i was also looking for info on this mars-saturn-pluto t-square. mine is mars in 1st square pluto in 4th and opposite saturn in the 7th. my BML is in the 10th squaring mars opposite pluto.
i guess since you have 3rd house placements it really comes out in your communication? in my case i'm generally pretty reserved, especially at work, and it's the home life and relationships that have been turbulent.
hope you're still around (and sorry if i'm not supposed to reply to old topics ^_^).
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I'm Sagittarius (sun in 12th house)ascendant sagittarius
Moon in Aries in 3rd house
Mercury in Sagittarius in 12th house
Venus in Scorpio in 10th house
Mars in Leo in 8th house
Jupiter in Sagittarius in 11th house
Saturn in Pisces in 2nd house
Uranus in Capricorn in 1st house
Neptune in Capricorn in 1st house
Pluto in Scorpio in 11th house
Sun Conjunction Mercury Orb 1??00'
Jupiter Conjunction Pluto Orb 1??47'
Sun Conjunction AS Orb 2??07'
Uranus Conjunction Neptune Orb 2??31'
Mercury Conjunction AS Orb 3??08'
Moon Opposite MC Orb 5??03'
Mars Opposite Saturn Orb 6??39'
Mars Square Jupiter Orb 0??39'
Neptune Square MC Orb 0??44'
Mars Square Pluto Orb 1??08'
Uranus Square MC Orb 1??46'
Moon Square Neptune Orb 4??18'
Jupiter Square Saturn Orb 5??59'
Moon Square Uranus Orb 6??50'
Saturn Square Pluto Orb 7??47'
Moon Trine Mercury Orb 1??29'
Venus Trine Saturn Orb 1??58'
Sun Trine Moon Orb 2??29'
Moon Trine AS Orb 4??37'
Mars Trine AS Orb 7??46'
Sun Sextile MC Orb 2??33'
Mercury Sextile MC Orb 3??33'
Uranus Sextile Pluto Orb 4??25'
T-Square from Jup: 0Sag37'17" to Mar: 29Leo57'50" and Sat: 6Pis36'58"
T-Square from Plu: 28Sco49'36" to Mar: 29Leo57'50" and Sat: 6Pis36'58"
Sorry It's long I didn't want lo leave out anything in case it was important 🙂