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I'll never understand how people can't comprehend kindness is the strongest weapon. Scream at them and they'll scream back at you, set them up for something and they'll set you up for something and so on and so on...but kindness never gets defeated. When you're kind to someone who's been rude to you, you directly disarm them because that's the only thing people don't expect and aren't prepared to react to it. Being confrontation will only get you into more confrontations. How is it worth losing your nerves over people at work?
But, I also get that being kind comes hardest to people, it's always easier to be rude.

I wonder what would happen if I groped the person back but like in a menacing way. Fawning definitely doesn't help in that situation
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Um...not talking about sexual harresments here. That is out of question in regards to acceptable behaviors...talking about reaponding to rudeness. Idk where y'all work to get into such situations but where I come from in regards to work field, sexual harrasment is something waaaaay out of question to ever happen.
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I work in manufacturing with felons (I'm not one). Besides groping, I had a different felon in my last position put Viagra in my mailbox and he told his gf he was gonna fuck me so she popped my bike tire. Getting away from him was the best part of getting fired from there. The entertainment industry is another example of a place where sexual harassment has shown to run rampant (I'd bet modeling too). People do it to those who they bet won't stand up for themselves or those with bad reputations who wouldn't be believed
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I'm sorry that happened to you. Why would you even get into such place to work? I mean, if you have choices, why not pick something better? I'd never go for something like that, even if it brings better money than other, more normal places. Worst place I ever worked was cafe, no mistreatment whatsoever and also had the boss's protection from wroking night shifts. Other girls did work, but to quote his words "I'm not gonna let you work at night here, you're not like them and you don't belong here" 🤷🏼‍♀️
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With all the jobs I cited here, none of them started out toxic

People always send their representatives before they send their real selves

With two of those jobs, I started out with fantastic bosses who hired me.

But people retire and move on.

I have zero control on who backfills those positions.I’m at the mercy of hiring managers, etc

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Sorry disregard, that question wasn’t for me

I wanted to thank everyone who responded with best practices and opinions on how to handle this.

Very much appreciated

Posted by MrsElle
I weave in and out of the corporate world as a consultant and see this shit everyday. Every time I see it, I am grateful I'm not an employee.

This type of toxicity actually drove me to be self employed.

In every field you have assholes. These assholes are just wearing slacks.

I have no advice but to ignore it while highlighting your integrity and skillsets. You know your worth.

Unfortunately, that is not always a win because assholes usually congregate with other assholes.

The only other thing you can do is consult and charge 4x your employed rate. They tend to respect you more, IME.

Is this Elle the Scorpio?!

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Get a job where there is shit to get done so people don't have time to fuck around with petty things.

The petty will always find time to be petty

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Indeed, lmao. Well keep yourself busy, maybe aim for smaller opperations where there is less fat and less opportunity for people to hide. But eggs get found when they have to work closely with people all the time.

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I weave in and out of the corporate world as a consultant and see this shit everyday. Every time I see it, I am grateful I'm not an employee.
This type of toxicity actually drove me to be self employed.
In every field you have assholes. These assholes are just wearing slacks.
I have no advice but to ignore it while highlighting your integrity and skillsets. You know your worth.
Unfortunately, that is not always a win because assholes usually congregate with other assholes.
The only other thing you can do is consult and charge 4x your employed rate. They tend to respect you more, IME.

Is this Elle the Scorpio?!
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Yes 😊

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Omg. Elle, very nice to see you again 😍

How are you?!

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I also have quite serious appearance when I want to, so it makes even the boldest ones uncomfortable to make such move on me and I use this the most in while at work. I'm casual ofc with my colleagues cause we're all very close, but with visitors I'm always dead serious but also polite.

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this has stuck in my head and I think is the secret to winning respect. I realize I'm playing the victim rn, but I think I've been "put in my place" so often (hence the username) that in person I try to present as humble and desperate-to-get-along as possible. so certain people pick up on that and take advantage bc I'm worried about what they think instead of being guarded and waiting for them to prove themselves to me. hard to change habits/adjust personality but you gave me a breakthrough fr.

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I weave in and out of the corporate world as a consultant and see this shit everyday. Every time I see it, I am grateful I'm not an employee.
This type of toxicity actually drove me to be self employed.
In every field you have assholes. These assholes are just wearing slacks.
I have no advice but to ignore it while highlighting your integrity and skillsets. You know your worth.
Unfortunately, that is not always a win because assholes usually congregate with other assholes.
The only other thing you can do is consult and charge 4x your employed rate. They tend to respect you more, IME.

Is this Elle the Scorpio?!
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Yes 😊
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Omg. Elle, very nice to see you again 😍
How are you?!
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I'm good on most days! It is great to see you too. I hope you are still pursuing arts in some way, you are so damn good at it! The corporate life will suck the life out of you. 😪

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I have some irons on the fire 🔥

Finding joy/learning anywhere I can

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I also have quite serious appearance when I want to, so it makes even the boldest ones uncomfortable to make such move on me and I use this the most in while at work. I'm casual ofc with my colleagues cause we're all very close, but with visitors I'm always dead serious but also polite.

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this has stuck in my head and I think is the secret to winning respect. I realize I'm playing the victim rn, but I think I've been "put in my place" so often (hence the username) that in person I try to present as humble and desperate-to-get-along as possible. so certain people pick up on that and take advantage bc I'm worried about what they think instead of being guarded and waiting for them to prove themselves to me. hard to change habits/adjust personality but you gave me a breakthrough fr.

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Very good discussions going on here.

A lot of food for thought

I thought I'd chime in here.

@DMV, I completely relate to what you're going through, I've also experienced more or less the same thing with work. It's exhausting.

How long has your situation being going on? For me, it has been for the last 10 years!

I'm also a Capricorn Venus, and I do think we may come accross too 'strong' for some.

The last place I was at was horrendous and left me quite unwell. I was subject to a collective grievance with most of the workforce making a claim against me. I didn't even make a year and things went downhill quite quickly.

To be honest, u don't think Sagittarius are for the workforce. I really think we are better off self-employed. Although I don't work in the corporate field, I have taken management positions which just don't work. Managers and employees see me as a threat and I show them up on their incompetence (without seeking to).

I'm now looking to jump back in to working again, but refuse to take any positions that are reflective of my actual skills and expereince, as I just know it will likely cause issues. Sad, I know, but I just can't risk it. I've decided to take a role slightly under my paygrade as I can't deal with the stress and make up the rest of my wage with a side hustle.

I also research companies throughly before applying, and make a decision to apply based on what I find. Of course, you can never be sure what you'll get into once you're appointed, but I'm cautious as I've been burnt too may times. My last expereince reeked havoc on my hair edges, and killed my houseplants, as I believe some negative spiritual works also took place with some employees. Not fun, but as a true Sag, I'm now bouncing back.

Choose your battles wisely. Sometimes it is better to walk away as the comeback can be much worse.

I do understand how absoutely draining this can be for you. Look after yourself.

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I thought I'd chime in here.

@DMV, I completely relate to what you're going through, I've also experienced more or less the same thing with work. It's exhausting.

How long has your situation being going on? For me, it has been for the last 10 years!

I'm also a Capricorn Venus, and I do think we may come accross too 'strong' for some.

The last place I was at was horrendous and left me quite unwell. I was subject to a collective grievance with most of the workforce making a claim against me. I didn't even make a year and things went downhill quite quickly.

To be honest, u don't think Sagittarius are for the workforce. I really think we are better off self-employed. Although I don't work in the corporate field, I have taken management positions which just don't work. Managers and employees see me as a threat and I show them up on their incompetence (without seeking to).

I'm now looking to jump back in to working again, but refuse to take any positions that are reflective of my actual skills and expereince, as I just know it will likely cause issues. Sad, I know, but I just can't risk it. I've decided to take a role slightly under my paygrade as I can't deal with the stress and make up the rest of my wage with a side hustle.

I also research companies throughly before applying, and make a decision to apply based on what I find. Of course, you can never be sure what you'll get into once you're appointed, but I'm cautious as I've been burnt too may times. My last expereince reeked havoc on my hair edges, and killed my houseplants, as I believe some negative spiritual works also took place with some employees. Not fun, but as a true Sag, I'm now bouncing back.

Choose your battles wisely. Sometimes it is better to walk away as the comeback can be much worse.

I do understand how absoutely draining this can be for you. Look after yourself.

I coulda wrote this myself.

My issues with corporate America started in 2009.

I wrote about quitting my job in 2016 and taking a year off to get me mental back here on DXPNET.

Tbh, I still hear the words of my former Virgal boss creep in my mind and I have to fight off the feelings of being a loser. She was the loser criminal and I just knew it before anyone else did.

Agree with you on self employment. I’ve been trying to launch businesses here and there. Haven’t found the winner yet.

For the last 7 years, I thought it was Christmas decorating but once again, I got pushed outta the environment.

I haven’t given up on myself, I’ll keep coming up with new ideas and traveling is my preferred medicine for my mental health. Even if it’s just a me driving around town and trying out a new restaurant.

Group work is not ideal. I prefer full control and paving my own way.

I’m lucky in that I have a twin who has the same aspects as me; including Venus in Capricorn.

Her life is so opposite of mine. She has friends, a boyfriend (they’re moving in together), promotion after promotion, a successful actual career.

I’ve concluded that the environment and location astrology is indeed real and Comparison is also the thief of joy.

I wasn’t made to live the same journey as her. Nothing is guaranteed and my desire for entitlement is always a work in progress.

So what people don’t want me around, so what people clap when I leave, so what all of my relationships end in a ball of flames. I’m not entitled to any of that.

I can only wake up and choose joy. ♥️

I hope your work situation improves. What did all those people have to complain about? You didn’t want to play their reindeer games or were they mad that you were the Rudolph?

I completely agree with you in taking smaller jobs that don’t require much.

It’s nice to shoot for the stars and want that big role but the older I get I just want peace.

If that means staying below my grade Aka hiding out in a lower level position, so be it!

I rather go home and stop get my fave tacos than go home crying and stressed out every day

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Posted by Ninjagirl
I thought I'd chime in here.
@DMV, I completely relate to what you're going through, I've also experienced more or less the same thing with work. It's exhausting.
How long has your situation being going on? For me, it has been for the last 10 years!
I'm also a Capricorn Venus, and I do think we may come accross too 'strong' for some.
The last place I was at was horrendous and left me quite unwell. I was subject to a collective grievance with most of the workforce making a claim against me. I didn't even make a year and things went downhill quite quickly.
To be honest, u don't think Sagittarius are for the workforce. I really think we are better off self-employed. Although I don't work in the corporate field, I have taken management positions which just don't work. Managers and employees see me as a threat and I show them up on their incompetence (without seeking to).
I'm now looking to jump back in to working again, but refuse to take any positions that are reflective of my actual skills and expereince, as I just know it will likely cause issues. Sad, I know, but I just can't risk it. I've decided to take a role slightly under my paygrade as I can't deal with the stress and make up the rest of my wage with a side hustle.
I also research companies throughly before applying, and make a decision to apply based on what I find. Of course, you can never be sure what you'll get into once you're appointed, but I'm cautious as I've been burnt too may times. My last expereince reeked havoc on my hair edges, and killed my houseplants, as I believe some negative spiritual works also took place with some employees. Not fun, but as a true Sag, I'm now bouncing back.
Choose your battles wisely. Sometimes it is better to walk away as the comeback can be much worse.
I do understand how absoutely draining this can be for you. Look after yourself.

I coulda wrote this myself.

My issues with corporate America started in 2009.

I wrote about quitting my job in 2016 and taking a year off to get me mental back here on DXPNET.

Tbh, I still hear the words of my former Virgal boss creep in my mind and I have to fight off the feelings of being a loser. She was the loser criminal and I just knew it before anyone else did.

Agree with you on self employment. I’ve been trying to launch businesses here and there. Haven’t found the winner yet.

For the last 7 years, I thought it was Christmas decorating but once again, I got pushed outta the environment.

I haven’t given up on myself, I’ll keep coming up with new ideas and traveling is my preferred medicine for my mental health. Even if it’s just a me driving around town and trying out a new restaurant.

Group work is not ideal. I prefer full control and paving my own way.

I’m lucky in that I have a twin who has the same aspects as me; including Venus in Capricorn.

Her life is so opposite of mine. She has friends, a boyfriend (they’re moving in together), promotion after promotion, a successful actual career.

I’ve concluded that the environment and location astrology is indeed real and Comparison is also the thief of joy.

I wasn’t made to live the same journey as her. Nothing is guaranteed and my desire for entitlement is always a work in progress.

So what people don’t want me around, so what people clap when I leave, so what all of my relationships end in a ball of flames. I’m not entitled to any of that.

I can only wake up and choose joy. ♥️

I hope your work situation improves. What did all those people have to complain about? You didn’t want to play their reindeer games or were they mad that you were the Rudolph?

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It's uncanny how similar our experiences are.

I've also had to take long breaks each time a work experience ends, with each time worse than the former. I've had to seek counselling as some places have very nearly done me in.

My sister (Virgo) says that I haven't had good luck with work for years. She's noticed the pattern. Good friends remind me that it's not me, which I know deep down, but each time it happens, I just get more and more cynical about it. I actually think I have some mild PTSD about work.

The last place I worked was just such a negative place, and has really left me reeling with a real fear about going back into the workforce. A deranged Cancer woman took an instant dislike for me, without even meeting me (she was on long term sick leave when I started). She was the bully and motivator of the team. Colleagues fed back to her what I was like, and once she came back all hell broke loose. Started to say I was harassing her, crying all the time, making claims I assaulted her, basically went completely nuts. Line manager was incompetent and had no backbone. Didn't help me, didn't support, so I was on my own. I showed him up in meetings, not intentionally, but some people thought I was much more knowledgeable than him, so I think he started to resent me.

When I went on sick leave, things escalated and I was told of the collective grievance. I was made to go through the process while Ill. I was left in limbo for several months with no outcome. Asked for my unused holiday pay and was told I could only get it if I left, so I was forced to resign. Did that, and was paid my holiday pay, but they also put me back on full pay for the two months I served my notice by mistake.

I was paid much more than expected, and during Christmas, they asked for the entire salary back. Kept sending me threatening letters for bailiffs. When I asked for an explanation, they told me it was managers error that I was paid too much. I said take me to court, and I haven't heard anything since.

But the damage to my health and wellbeing has been unforgiving. I think one employee tried to spiritually attack me after I accepted some mulled wine she insisted I took home. Stupidly, I did and things started going downhill in my home. 3 of my lovely plants died, things just didn't feel right. Got rid of the bottle, did a cleanse and things are a little better. My health has taken a massive hit though and has been a slow recovery since.

I think you know what to do. Follow your instincts and your intuition. Give yourself time to process things. There were many things I could have acted on, but I held back a lot and let many things go for the sake of my health. Years ago, this old Sag would be battling everything, but not no more. The only thing I was prepared to do was to go to court over wages as there was a strong probability I could win the case.

It's good you're doing something creative, this helps to restore our energy. I also do creative things which has helped my recovery. During my hiatus, I went on a few courses to help build back my resolve.

When you're ready for the next step, do as much research as you can. I like Glassdoor as you can see companies reviews from former employees. But yeah. I've been burnt more times than you can count. There was only one place in the last 10 years that I felt I belonged by staff. I was managed by a Sag and Taurus and treated well. That was my best year to date (2018). Prior to and after that has been a disaster.

Funnily enough though, I never ever have issues with clients. It's always management and colleagues. I just think I'm too much of a threat to some, and the organisation, especially when they are poorly managed.

Posted by DMV
I completely agree with you in taking smaller jobs that don’t require much.

It’s nice to shoot for the stars and want that big role but the older I get I just want peace.

If that means staying below my grade Aka hiding out in a lower level position, so be it!

I rather go home and stop get my fave tacos than go home crying and stressed out every day

Yeah, I just want a job which I know I can hide in, not show too much of my skills, do the hours and go home. In the last job I was a manager, and on call 24 hours a day. It was so stressful and actually made me quite unwell. I'm good with a simple job, or working directly with people, rather in a managment team/role.

I'm good with being a cog in a large wheel. I don't want to be in the spotlight anymore.

@DMV I just want to remind you that it's not you doing anything wrong. There were instances where you had bosses who you really got on with, who respected you. I have to remind myself of this, as ut is quite easy to focus on the negative. But there has been occasions where you've had the right manager and the right team that supported you.

I think in the workforce, we are natural leaders, and seem to find people that want to clip our wings and stunt our growth. I know now that it is virtually impossible to find the best place to work in as we are here to create such a place, not to fit in to a place that already exists. We are at our best when we can lead which is why we really should be self employed. But it's not easy.

You are worthy of the best life can offer. ✨️

Thanks Ninjagirl for your kind words.

Yes! Are lives have been very similar.

I definitely have pstd lol

It’s been tough and I’ve given up on a lot of dreams but I’m just tired of always having to fight and prove my worth to other people in and out of the workplace.

I want others to prove themselves to me to MY satisfaction.

My good bosses were soooooo good.

My ex Taurus boss was magician.

Day one he respected me. He was so grateful and appreciative and it made me work harder for him. He would bring gifts to show his appreciation. Total class act.

I miss being treated like that. He was such a rarity.

Another Cappy boss was so damn good to me. During my first review, he said “I’m so glad I hired you.”

I wish them both the happiest of lives.

My best bosses were older Leo men on the verge of retirement. worst bosses were Aries men.