The Mind of The Sag Male (Page 3)

Posted by coldwater
Well....

Yeah I called in today. Just laying in bed aching. He texted me and I I told him I stayed home today. Had the gall to ask why I missed work. He knows good and well why. I told him I feel like I've been hit by a train and then the local city bus and the passenger car after that. I need some Tylenol. I admit I was getting a little nervous when he said I hope u ready. I trIed to be nice but I guess he wasn't having it. He said something about making all my dreams come true and having the sex I always wanted. ....

If I was in the next room I'd have demanded my money back. I know they can't have gotten any rest.

The only soft part of this story is I see how he felt about me. He wrapped me in his arms and we fell asleep like that. We had an awesome time. He was into me and I him. And outside the hotel he treated me like a total princess. He took care of everything.

Inside the room, I have to admit he ruled.

Not to brag but we often do rule the bedroom. Its actually a well kept secret by my estimation. So what's next for you two?

On a side note just a little FYI for everybody. We take you at your word. Go with the flow until you show us otherwise...then we take you at face value. The big picture? If you're inconsistent, we won't take you seriously. Thus we'll keep you at a distance.

I miss my sag 😢

Not sure.

I know we will never leave each other alone. My good friend said we should just be together because we will ruin two other people's life. He is so black and white. There is no gray with him. He can be unmovable. I'm not sure if it's a sag thing or him thing but if his mind is fixed on a subject then that's the correct way. He will listen to my debate, there is more than one way of course, But this is the way he sees it....and so this is the way it is.....

I'm sure he will set me off again. Ill lose it. He'll ignore me until he feels it enough. .. then we make up.

But love. .jealousy...obsession.... pain. ... passion. .. intensity. ..etc. all the major players present and accounted for.

I think I'm supposed to be learning that there's only one man in this relationship. I have never made way for any man. But he sure has gotten my complete attention.

Continue to date and day by day. Definately the most intense relationship I've ever had.

Well. I've been with my sag for about 7 months and I have to say it's the best relationship I've been in. I feel satisfied; mind body and soul.


Beautiful Soul: Can I ask if you have had a relationship with a Sag? How did it go on an intellectual level? I feel like I've definitely met my match.

Posted by Moodz2468
I miss my sag 😢

Don't worry... Maybe in time and healing he'll come back around. We never forget those we care about even if we don't contact them. Develop a positive spirit and that may be what brings him back.

Posted by coldwater
Not sure.

I know we will never leave each other alone. My good friend said we should just be together because we will ruin two other people's life. He is so black and white. There is no gray with him. He can be unmovable. I'm not sure if it's a sag thing or him thing but if his mind is fixed on a subject then that's the correct way. He will listen to my debate, there is more than one way of course, But this is the way he sees it....and so this is the way it is.....

I'm sure he will set me off again. Ill lose it. He'll ignore me until he feels it enough. .. then we make up.

But love. .jealousy...obsession.... pain. ... passion. .. intensity. ..etc. all the major players present and accounted for.

I think I'm supposed to be learning that there's only one man in this relationship. I have never made way for any man. But he sure has gotten my complete attention.

Continue to date and day by day. Definately the most intense relationship I've ever had.

But isn't it about having a healthy relationship? Overall it just doesn't seem healthy to me.

Posted by Ninjagirl
Well. I've been with my sag for about 7 months and I have to say it's the best relationship I've been in. I feel satisfied; mind body and soul.


Beautiful Soul: Can I ask if you have had a relationship with a Sag? How did it go on an intellectual level? I feel like I've definitely met my match.

If you count me losing my virginity to a a Sag, then yes lmao! But seriously, no. But I'd like to. No other sign "gets me" and speaks my language. It's instinctual and flows. We don't always agree but there is a deeper understanding that you don't let the details get in the way of the big picture. I can talk about deep subjects with Sag women and they get where I'm coming from plus we appease each other's curious side.

Plus, Sag women are unselfish which is rare. They give generously and are the first to be there for you. Admirable.

You are so insightful! Sometime ago I had a conversation with him about how can we love another if we can't love ourselves! Thanks again! Good luck with your law school!

Posted by Boots671
You are so insightful! Sometime ago I had a conversation with him about how can we love another if we can't love ourselves! Thanks again! Good luck with your law school!

Thank you. and best wishes for what's going on in your life as well. What you said is so true. In relationships, the more the two people involved have an altruistic self love the better the odds of success. Anything less has lesser odds of success...case in point...a lot of relationships nowadays lol

Smh

A personal story.

At this stage of my life, there are very few things that I have a hard time dealing with. Perhaps the hardest and greatest test, is being recognized for who I am. If there is one word that I could use to describe me is...misunderstood. It took me a long time to accept this reality. How does one live in this regard? I learned that no matter what you do, people will see your words and actions how they choose to. Constantly analyzed, judged, criticized, very few really take the time to know me and truly understand me...feel me. I care deeply for others and I give unselfishly. Where others fear I move forward.

Nowhere else is this more apparent than in love. Attacked for loving. My words and actions constantly used against me to justify their fear. All I've ever asked for is honesty. I never force anything. My words are used to show a way to heal. To bring us together. But I simply believe there must be honesty there. Honesty brings understanding. Sadly, this is the most misunderstood.

you know, the more i live, the more i believe that our cross to bear is to be more "selfish" with our love. maybe, to even be more selective because everyone is not capable of bearing our honesty/intensity/love. how to do this and still remain angelic, i am learning. but there has to be a way.

being selective.
knowing that one out of every ten people or so can actually hang.
pulling away when things seem weird and not compensating for those things.

those are difficult.

Posted by msX
you know, the more i live, the more i believe that our cross to bear is to be more "selfish" with our love. maybe, to even be more selective because everyone is not capable of bearing our honesty/intensity/love. how to do this and still remain angelic, i am learning. but there has to be a way.

being selective.
knowing that one out of every ten people or so can actually hang.
pulling away when things seem weird and not compensating for those things.

those are difficult.

So true. I've been told that I have fear. Yes, admittedly I do. But I control it and don't succumb to it. I simply got tired of being scared all the time. I want to live.

i need to devise a personal disclaimer to anyone interested in meeting me.
i also need to know my triggers so i can pull away without getting "taken".
that's what happened with the sag i met - he triggered my
"flight" mode after my "fight" mode. once i called (fight) and got no answer coupled with a text-promise to call back and didn't, i went into "flight" mode.
it feels better because it stings initially, but doesn't take eons to get over once i begin to tell myself "i told you so".
i should have told him to keep his word or i will jet. that should be my disclaimer. just like people who are late, i have no patience for people who are flaky and/or don't uphold their word. compensating for those type of people totally takes me out of my character and makes me an unhappy lass.

MsX:

I'm sorry but you're going all about it wrong. You can't approach a situation with cynicism. You guys just met and already you're saying...he's just another....

This is what happens. You over analyze and your thoughts program your mind to produce the very outcome you're looking for. You question all the time, judge, and fault find. Turn the few flaws a person has into deal breakers by pushing at them and that person reacts justifying your fear when in the beginning they didn't even give you a good reason too. What people often do is try to find an excuse to leave not reasons to stay and try. Every little thing gets blown out of proportion. I guess its a result of shows like love and hip hop.

I know you've been through hell. But you have to have a positive attitude towards dating and be realistic. Being realistic doesn't kill dreams, it. Rings a real chance at happiness. Be patient and take your time. Instead of the "chasing and running" thing try a different approach like....finding someone who will meet you halfway.

dating didn't used to be like this.
neither did i.
i guess i need to have a talk with my 10 years ago self, lol!

practice makes perfect.
i guess i'm just stretching my muscles and getting in the groove.
i still hope to bag another sag male, though.
just not this one...i'm good 😉

I have just realized i don't think i've ever even been friends with a sag guy, let alone dated one, or even heard of a sag man with a libra woman...where are you guys all hiding? Or do you just run when you see libra women coming lol

very insightful thread, beautifulsoul74, thanks for sharing

Posted by pathfinder
very insightful thread, beautifulsoul74, thanks for sharing

You're welcome _??_

: ) @ you all!

Posted by Sag89
: ) @ you all!

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The mind of a sag male...I could write forever about this. I'll try to contain myself.

I feel like we're kind of hard to figure out, because there's so much going on. They say the mind of a sag never turns off. That's definitely true. I literally can physically feel thoughts coursing through my mind all the time...it's weird, I don't really know how to say it. I've been pulled out of sleep by literally just thinking of something new.

We can go between being extremely introverted and extroverted very quickly. No real middle ground. The ratio of one to the other isn't fixed either. It just depends on what's happening in our environment. Speaking of, we can adapt to wherever we are...but that doesn't mean we will. So we're likely always thinking of what we'd rather be doing if we're not enjoying ourselves. The grass is always greener. But that doesn't mean we're never happy...just almost never 😉 There's always improvements to be made, and we can be very hard on ourselves. The flip side is, we hate when people criticize us, because we are already trying so hard to fit all the pieces together that we get frustrated when they can't see it. In essence, we are already giving 110% . We can't give any more, and frankly if you try to make us we're just going to let you have it.

I think the biggest thing that defines our thinking is that we kind of have a plan for everything. It's always changing to take new information into account, but we definitely have an over-arching general big-picture that we're working towards. That's why we famously "hate details"...they're always changing so we don't see a need to waste energy on them. We believe that things will fall into place so long as we generally do what is required to go in the right direction.

The flip side of that is, we have so many interests, its hard to focus on one thing. We are pretty much the definition of ADD, and mixed with some OCD, we can be a little insane. But I think that's part of the charm, right?

Speaking of that charm...nobody can resist it...at least in my experience with many Sags. But no matter what, inside, we're awkward as hell. Its amazing that things ever go well, we can't really believe that people actually find us as attractive as we want to be. We can be really romantic, but we kind of don't want anybody to know it.

All of this makes us somewhat split-personality. We have this outer confident, loud, know-it-all (which comes from all the reading we

Very charming people

@JustaSag:

Lmao!! Calm down buddy!

You described how we think...at least when we're younger. Heck I even used to be that way. But on a serious note, all that leads to is being a jack of all trades but a master of none.

Truth is, we get bored easily, especially in relationships. As much as we deplore drama(eye roll), we don't realize that our mutability is exactly what causes it. One thing I even question about my sign is as smart as we are and like things to be as easy as possible...why do we always do it the hard way??

Things are really simple. Pick a path and follow through. "Follow through"...something we lack. The whole "hoping it'll fall into place thing" is where we make our fatal mistakes and we lose out on some of life's biggest blessings. We can't just rely on Jupiter luck. We have the ability to accomplish any thing but we have to stick to it and push forward. Nothing worth having falls into place or is easy. In love, we have the most drama because we expect everyone to engage in "Sag Speak"... To understand what we're saying without explaining in detail our intentions and actions. Then we tell them to trust us when we don't even trust ourselves. When we've caused enough trouble we tell them to move on only to come running when they do so and confuse them. See what I mean?

We need to learn to control our mutability...our thoughts. It takes time and patience, follow through...from work to love. Be a Sag that's of their word. If you can't do it or aren't sure, it's ok to say so. But don't pretend or drag someone along while you try to decide what it is you're going to do. Also, try the path less taken. Instead of having part this part that, try actually finding someone or something that gives you most of what you NEED.

Funny, I do believe myself to be awkward.

I guess I'm naive when it comes to relationships. Or maybe old fashioned. I see everybody, regardless of sign with the same problems. The triangle lol. Ones putting energy and total effort into someone who who's putting energy into someone else who doesn't even want them. Common sense you tell you to turn your energies towards each other. But what often happens is that fear is rationalize into a...well thought out excuse.

Sad really. Love is lost or delayed. A lot of people could actually be in a healthy relationship is they simply dropped the bullshit. But , they simply choose to stay imprisoned in their minds...the one their fear has created.

beautifulsoul i sent you a pm.....

Posted by cancerboo
beautifulsoul i sent you a pm.....

I responded but something is wrong with the PM or something. I'll try again.

Posted by Sweeetz

Posted by beautifulsoul74
I guess I'm naive when it comes to relationships. Or maybe old fashioned. I see everybody, regardless of sign with the same problems. The triangle lol. Ones putting energy and total effort into someone who who's putting energy into someone else who doesn't even want them. Common sense you tell you to turn your energies towards each other. But what often happens is that fear is rationalize into a...well thought out excuse.

Sad really. Love is lost or delayed. A lot of people could actually be in a healthy relationship is they simply dropped the bullshit. But , they simply choose to stay imprisoned in their minds...the one their fear has created.

Surely you take your own advice? I believe you are guilty of this very scenario aye?

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Um no actually but you can believe what you want and I say that with kindness.

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@sweets:

As for Harry99: thank you for the story. You seem to be missing a few key details. But that's how it goes on the rumor mill.

I'll address Harry first. Everybody pretty much knows the situation there. Yes, she did. But she also expressed her affinity for others at that time. We were friends and I told her that I wasn't interested and quietly it was because of the her flirting with everyone. Like I said, I'm old fashioned.

If I recall, me and you first met on a thread discussing Internet dating and then you created about relationships. Yes, I tried to holla, but you never said no...you just gave a hint by barely saying anything in your response. I think that initial exchange was three total messages between us. It was no biggie as I took the hint and moved on. Which puzzles me by the way. How was I chasing you when the total amount if messages sent between us when you were here was maybe seven over a couple of months. We mainly talked on the threads and it was about the topic at hand. So I guess that constitutes chasing lol.

So what really happened? Let me lay it out for you as you never bothered to ask...just assume. After I first contacted you and you gave the hint, I noticed that you were talking to two guys...a leo and a Taurus. You mentioned them in separate threads. So I lost interest. I kept it cordial and civil with you and we were cool...platonic. You did like to argue with me and I obliged. I like a debate. The funny thing is this mutual friend if mine suggested that you liked me more than you suggested and she even hinted at it publicly on a thread but you said no. So, I after she suggested that I at least see if there was anything else because she wanted to see me happy and in a relationship, I tried with you one time and you hinted you weren't interested then. So to recount, I tried you weren't interested, so I lost interested and we were still cool. Didn't think about it again until months later and that was after a suggestion from a friend. You said no. Do where does the triangle fit in? You said no both times and I moved on. I know your ego likes to think that I was stuck on you but no, there was no romantic feeling. Interesting meaning I'd like to see if there is potential but I don't chase someone who's told me no even in a round about way lol.

But the second time I "tried to holla" made me realize my true feelings for my friend. I confessed to her how I felt she said no which was cool. She had just gotten out of

Contined:

But the second time I "tried to holla" made me realize my true feelings for my friend. I confessed to her how I felt she said no which was cool. She had just gotten out of a relationship and I admit it was a mistake to pursue her. I actually apologized but what she did was lie to me to face and I called her out on it.

So, this the part you don't know. You two just sat up there and gossiped about me with out yiu even getting my side of the story. That's cool...its DXP. As for a triangle, please. Thus happened over a span of several months and there was barely any contact with you outside of the threads and then we argued a lot. No doubt it's our Scorp placements. You picked at me...subtlety and that's one of the reasons why I had no romantic interest but we were cool because I hold no grudges. So the fact that you're sitting her trying to make it like it was some triangle is foolish. I told Harry we could be friends and that I wasn't interested in no uncertain terms but I told her privately but I wanted to help her with the issues she was dealing with. There was no romance between us.

Lastly, me creeping women? How? Who are they? Let they come forth...with actual evidence and not just hearsay from the rumor mill. Gossip that's born from ego and not actual facts...just perception.

Lmao, so when did you let me know verbatim? You just said that you let me know we went to high school together. Why would you say that? You didn't want to get to know me so you turn around and say "btw we went to high school together." Were you interested or not? Who knows? And really who cares. What's funny is you're sitting here arguing and trying to prove a point from something that happened a good year ago. All because over something I said you don't like. If you weren't interested, who cares? Who said what, when, and why. If I participated in a triangle so to speak, then that means either you liked the attention or were "too nice" to call me out back then. Remember, we're going by your version of events. I mean, why would you not say something back then? Put me in my place so save the other women I supposedly creep on and perpetrate a fraud against heartache? But I digress, like you said...who knows.

As for fraud, well, that goes to my earlier point. Why go to the trouble of asking about me around town? That's a hell of a lot of time and energy for someone you're not interested in. Oh I forgot, it's about vindication. Never mind.

Sad, truly sad...to see you're reaching. The reason you're leaving now because the holes in your argument are showing.

You can't even keep your own story straight along with your motives. You didn't talk about me outside of DXP but you mention me in a "conversation" to a high school buddy. Did he ask how you talked to me? Last I recall, you told me not to tell anybody that you had an account here. So, you basically demonstrate that not only do you gossip, but you can't even follow your own rules. Going as far as to talk about me offsite while saying you didn't do that...oscillate much. Ah indecision, jumping from one thing to the next. So now I misconstrued and I'm in fantasyland. Then you rely on a comment in a thread from someone who's been known to start trouble and drama and I've had all but two interactions with in a thread...period. So to rely on cheap attacks whether there or in PMs is really silly. What equally silly is you putting your friends on blast by saying you discussed me in PMs. You opened that door. So, your credibility flew right out the window that quick.

So you and your clique can return to the dark corners from whence you came to continue plotting and scheming your next ego butthurt comment. I have friends here and that's all that matters. If I'm such a creep, why do I have a birthday thread? Anyway, good luck finding your way_??_

Never argue with a sag...u mad? Lol