Us, Boderline Sagies

"Shortly after Bogart's death in 1957, Bacall had a relationship with singer and actor Frank Sinatra. During an interview with Turner Classic Movies's Robert Osborne, Bacall stated that she had ended the romance, but, in her autobiography, she wrote that Sinatra ended the relationship abruptly after becoming angry that the story of his marriage proposal to Bacall had reached the press. When Bacall was out with her friend Irving Paul Lazar, they encountered the gossip columnist Louella Parsons, to whom Lazar revealed the details of the proposal.[77]"

From

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bacall

I can feel the flames on my skin

He says, "Don't throw away a good thing"

But if he drops my name, then I owe him nothin'

And if he spends my change, then he had it comin'

From Taylor Swift's I did a bad thing

Excuses——

actually aburrido——

borderline personality?

living too much in own head?

extreme vanity?

TS sings Narcissists are attracted to her? Who decided that they are narcissists? Could it be she is self-absorbed.

My problem is I might have done all this when I was young. too much self-criticism as always? or Karma made me see the truth?

Ah my Aries loves old films more so files by these two.

His fav scene:



#chemistry

Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Ah my Aries loves old films more so files by these two.

His fav scene:

#chemistry

I cannot judge if it was chemistry cause I like her type soooo much. But maybe if he was not the right person, she could have not shown her best behavior (best behavior, lol!)

Posted by theflyingarrow
What's frank's mars?

Narc are attracted to TS because of her cancer moon.. i dont know her rising, but i seem to attract narc too and people who wants to "save" me *eyeroll 😂* because of my cancer moon + rising..

plus sags like to bend so much too for the one they love until one day the snaps.. so it might be the reason why..

Mars in scorp are very private, the "you will only see what i choose to show" type of people..

I actually cut a bestfriend completely off my life because he blabbed something about me to his bestfriend and altho i know his bestfriend too, i felt like he betrayed my trust. But i wouldnt go as far as cancelling an engagement over that 😂

Ah, I see. "you will only see what i choose to show" is something she said in an interview. I saw that interview yesterday, this is why I have it still in my cash memory. I have all the things in Sagittarius and I thought to myself, "what? where's the Sag honesty". But now I understand what her point was. It was her Mars or something. thank you for the note.

Posted by theflyingarrow
What's frank's mars?

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Mars in scorp are very private, the "you will only see what i choose to show" type of people..

...

Mars in Leo according to this link:

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Frank_Sinatra

I'd assume more the Moon in Pisces as root cause than the Leo Mars.

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Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Ah my Aries loves old films more so files by these two.

His fav scene:

#chemistry

I cannot judge if it was chemistry cause I like her type soooo much. But maybe if he was not the right person, she could have not shown her best behavior (best behavior, lol!)

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For a virgo sun she oozed sex appeal.

Posted by theflyingarrow
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Narc are attracted to TS because of her cancer moon.. and people who wants to "save" me ...

I think at some point of time a person should take the responsibility for wrong messages he/she sends.

Actually Cancer Moon should be the person who protects|nurtures|saves.

Also Borderline is when a girl/boy makes it a lot easy for the other person to fall in love with her/hem, then all of a sudden, accuses the other person of bad motivations.

So why should the other person have these bad motivations? why is he a narcissist? why is he a player? why was it wrong to bring TS's name into his interview? why didn't they talk the rules before hand?

should he have put time into knowing her before he dated her? yes, "loving me is knowing me".

would he have found out she likes to keep her privacy from her overall behavior?

Maybe he showed he did not know anything about her. Should she have given him time to know her?

Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by Queenofthepheasantfairies
Ah my Aries loves old films more so files by these two.

His fav scene:

#chemistry

I cannot judge if it was chemistry cause I like her type soooo much. But maybe if he was not the right person, she could have not shown her best behavior (best behavior, lol!)

For a virgo sun she oozed sex appeal.

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r u serious?

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Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by theflyingarrow
What's frank's mars?

...

Mars in scorp are very private, the "you will only see what i choose to show" type of people..

...

Mars in Leo according to this link:

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Frank_Sinatra

I'd assume more the Moon in Pisces as root cause than the Leo Mars.

Haha I have Pisces in moon.... And even though I would not tell a soul the first period of a relationship that I'm seeing someone (but that's also because I would be living on my cloud and having sex whenever I could ) ...you would see from a mile away my smile.

And I already have this.... I can't stop telling positive stuff about the guy.....

But telling people my feelings.... Not to any soul....

Telling them ,when he tells me not to, I would have a lock on my mouth not even houdini could crack the code

The whole narc thing? I'm a cancer sun Pisces moon

I just broke with my narcissistic mother after 35 years!! Broke up three years ago with my narcissistic ex.

I'm so much stronger then I ever knew!!! So yeah... I attract them too.... It's the most horrible way someone can live!!!!!

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I see this theory starts to sound like something to me. I know a Scorp-Monkey narc who has kept his life empty of many things, but still try to keep me in his life. With Pisces Moon maybe I am a little attraction for such types too. I only stuck with it cause he has Pisces Moon too. I feel responsible. But only to a certain extent. Feeling responsible could be found on the diagnosis list too. But also in a novel about immortal love.

On the other side if she leaves him right after two months, was he really a narc? You nurtured your ex for longer than 3 months right? TS is self-absorbed. But maybe she is in search of something special. Who am I to condemn people when their gut says something to them and they follow the voice.

Posted by DwellingOnMove
"Shortly after Bogart's death in 1957, Bacall had a relationship with singer and actor Frank Sinatra. During an interview with Turner Classic Movies's Robert Osborne, Bacall stated that she had ended the romance, but, in her autobiography, she wrote that Sinatra ended the relationship abruptly after becoming angry that the story of his marriage proposal to Bacall had reached the press. When Bacall was out with her friend Irving Paul Lazar, they encountered the gossip columnist Louella Parsons, to whom Lazar revealed the details of the proposal.[77]"

From

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Bacall

Lauren Bacall would never love anyone more than Humphrey Bogart. he was the love of her life.

even after death. Frank Sinatra probably was more into her than he to her.

If i remember, Lauren Bacall's placements are Virgo sun, Aquarius Mars, Venus leo, Aries moon.

It looks like the same case of Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt and he's more into her than she is to Brad.

i forget that Laren Bacall had Cancer rising conjunct Pluto Cancer...in those days..

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Lauren_Bacall

she loves her opposition.

Posted by theflyingarrow

Posted by DwellingOnMove

Posted by theflyingarrow
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Narc are attracted to TS because of her cancer moon.. and people who wants to "save" me ...

I think at some point of time a person should take the responsibility for wrong messages he/she sends.

Actually Cancer Moon should be the person who protects|nurtures|saves.

Also Borderline is when a girl/boy makes it a lot easy for the other person to fall in love with her/hem, then all of a sudden, accuses the other person of bad motivations.

So why should the other person have these bad motivations? why is he a narcissist? why is he a player? why was it wrong to bring TS's name into his interview? why didn't they talk the rules before hand?

should he have put time into knowing her before he dated her? yes, "loving me is knowing me".

would he have found out she likes to keep her privacy from her overall behavior?

Maybe he showed he did not know anything about her. Should she have given him time to know her?

Yes.. that's what the cancer moon does. But cancer moon also makes her fall fast without thinking. So i dont think shes sending people the wrong message, she did what she felt at that moment following her sag impulses driven by the cancer moon emotions.

The thing is she has aqua venus that makes her has this long checklist of impossible "ideal". So once the guys are in, only then the checklist process begins. That's why you see her jumping in and out of relationships.

"Why didnt they talk about privacy rules beforehand" because the guys would think that she's not serious with them whereas at that time she's actually serious. That's her scorp mars calculation logic fearing to be misunderstood.

... i have her exact placements, so i kinda relate to ...

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Your explanations sound sound. It can really have happened that way. "How was I supposed to know" is nothing new in the world of lyrics. Couples come together and they think they have the best intentions. Only later if it fails we can list all the reasons and that is stupid. My OP is stupid.

I don't know about check list of Venus in Aqua. For me it is more a Sag thing.

For me Aqua Venus could have brought that she needed distance after they were too often together. She had a lot to process those days. Also his fandom did not welcome her. Hers did welcome him.

Maybe there happened lots of confusions one after the other: attraction taken for love, dating for relationship, trust for custody. Fact is he was interviewed those days and mentioned her. But not the other way around. If he did not ask her previously, then it was a big no-go. kind of custody. as if he was more prominent than her. It all depends...