Battle; Pisces vs. Scorpio WHOS the VICTOR?

I personally have recently went through this dynamic over and over. Yes they say Scorpio has a stinger but the PISCES is a proverbial pirrahana. Which one is more deadly. Maybe Scorpio is more strategic...but isnt Pisces more intuitive. Its hard to say.

Just because Virgos take Scorpios manipulations seriously doesn't equate to more deadly in anything, and through manipulating the opponent into (((believing))) they are deadly is their only power .... in truth, Scorpios piss and moan at the drop of a hat.


Pisces on the other hand, has the ability to not care ... which makes them the most deadly sign of all .. because to not care = completely impervious to the stinger.

You say this, "taken seriously" as though it holds the most value in having .... when in reality, the lack of it is what makes the most deadly competitor, in which case holds the most value in battle.

You put far too much emphasis in Deb, the Scorpio ... people are suppose to be able to see truth, no matter what.

I hope one day you come to be able to.

Oh pisces for sure. They really don't give two shits about anything. They only protray an image of doing so. Them and Gems are the most unfaithful signs of the zodiac. When you don't live in reality half the time how can you?

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Posted by No1delete2

PA: Pisces on the other hand, has the ability to not care...

That's because they have little to no basis in objective reality -- which is why they're not taken seriously.

they're not taken seriously because..
they refuse to conform/comply..
(...)
in fact, they are too aware of what is going on around them..
to simply conform..
they choose freely to care.. or not to give a rat's ass..


Pisces win.. flawless victory (ta-da-da)
sorry scorpios 😢😢

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I'm a Pisces and I totally agree. I attract Scorpio men like bees to a honeypot, and the funny part is their attraction feels like this crazy mixture of fascination and repulsion. I really do think they have a sixth sense that tells them I can see through any manipulation tactics they try with me and that I know they do it out of insecurity. I don't even have to say a word with Scorps and they already know that I can see through them when I don't respond to their games and *SURPRISE* turn the tables on them. It takes a lot to shock a Scorpio, but I'm an expert at giving these guys a mindf*ck. It's like they're simultaneously infatuated with and afraid of me, but as we well know, Scorps can't keep away from a "Danger" sign even if they end up destroying themselves in the process ... LOL!

Scorpios who know me are aware that I can see through their strategies and that I can completely ignore them if I choose to ... so they're fascinated by my power but are scared sh*tless of me at the same time, because I'm HYPER-AWARE of what's going on and can turn their games around on them. It's a fatal attraction to say the least. Add to this the fact that I can turn completely apathetic when someone is messing with me, and they have no more defense around me because I'm immune to the Scorpio stinger. I read somewhere online that there is no way to get revenge on a Pisces because nothing works, this is so true ... if a Pisces goes cold on a Scorp, the Scorp has no way to hurt the Pisces.

There is no greater danger than apathy. Nothing gets through to a sociopath. A Scorpio can't manipulate a Pisces who has made him/herself emotionally impervious. Remember, Pisceans have cycled through the lives of the previous 11 signs, there is NOTHING we haven't seen before. We are sick f*cks.

You're absolutely right No1delete2. No sign is superhuman and is completely above getting hurt. It's really not in a Pisces' inherent nature to be emotionally aloof. Believe it or not, we hate not caring, and this goes against our trademark compassion and empathy. In fact, our emotions are our greatest weakness - this is precisely WHY we harden them when we're fighting someone. HOWEVER, this is NOT something we believe to be admirable, but when faced with a game of survival, Pisceans will do whatever it takes to get out alive.

In the case of Scorpios, they usually feel pure love or hate, with no in-between. If you think about it though, even if you hate someone that person still has the potential to hurt you because you're still "feeling" some sort of intense emotion towards him or her. If you hate a woman and she steals your husband, then this means you are going to hate her even more. This means that she has succeeded in stirring up your emotions and wounding you.

I'm not saying apathy is something to be proud of at all, it's a horrible thing. But the individual who emerges victorious on the battle field is not necessarily the most noble one. Surely a Scorpio can understand this, since less evolved Scorpios are known for sinking to depraved lows in order to get revenge on those who have wronged them, but is getting revenge on someone something to be proud about, either?

Scorpios are constantly praised for being "powerful" because they sting people left and right, and are not passive in exercising their power ... sounds like a bunch of immature bullies to me. Scorpios are glorified for having self worth and not putting up with people's sh*t, but the second a Pisces shows a shred of self confidence and refuses to be a doormat anymore, we're criticized because that's not how we're "supposed" to be. All of sudden, I'm the hugest egomaniac to walk the earth now ... double standards much?

Sorry to disappoint, but passive resistance has accomplished, and will always accomplish much greater feats than active resistance has or ever will. But people never like hearing the raw, unvarnished truth, especially when it upsets the typical notions of power that are associated with Scorpios.

P.S. By the way, my significant other is a Scorpio and I LOVE him, but that doesn't mean I can't call him out on his bullsh*t.

Scorpio is one of those hard power signs like aries, capricorn and leo. I mean hard power in the sense of strngth and determination.

whereas pisces is more of softpower and diplomatic like libra.


So you can't really compare.

Whenever the whole Scorpio vs Pisces or Aries or whoever is flexing their nuts at the moment threads come up..... that just says it all to me. *shrug*
I've never really understood the whole "we are more powerful then Scorpio and this is why" thing. What are you trying to prove? lol

That's what I'm saying topaz. I don't get why everyone tries to explain why they think they are "stronger" then Scorpio. Kinda defeats your purpose if you have to go out of your way to explain yourself doesn't it? *smirk* 😄 But by all means.... go on explaining yourself and your superiority. That's something scorps rarely have to do.

I like your name Topaz. I have alot of Topaz rings. My birth stone is usually the only kind of "bling" I wear 🙂

Yes Dy. Scorpios are more powerful and Pisces are too weak for an Earth sign.


Happy?


🙂

Posted by satori

Posted by Astrological Aftermath
nothing to offend? that's an insult in itself

No, it's a great compliment. Their egos are small and they don't put value into things that don't matter. You can't put down their appearance or status because they don't put value on things like that. Even though they are very smart you can even put down their intelligence and it doesn't matter because don't care what others think of them. They are smart for their own reasons and for their own self improvement not to impress others.

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I think this is an individual thing though Satori. Honestly the older I get (yikes) the more I'm like that. I'm still a little high strung at times but I'm learning that if someone or something is bothering me I'm giving it more credit then it/they deserve there for giving them more power and influence over me. A person truelly happy and accepting of themselves doesn't need to prove anything or want for revenge. It's just not worth it because I'm showing them with all that crapola that they have gotten to me. I'm too defiant to let THAT happen 🙂 lol

In all honesty the whole sign vs sign thing is redundant. Each sign has a unique GIFT and weakness that we can all learn from. We each bring different perspectives to the table. That's just my opinion anyway 🙂

I got a Pisces bro too. Mine is severly .......troubled though. 😢 That troubles me being that I'm big sister.

*raises eyebrows* inbredbuttfucker town. They have those over there too huh? Hope he gets out. I know what it's like to be in one of those types of towns. Sounds like he's in wuvvvve!! 😛

My bro is so messed up he claims he's in love every other month with a different chick and then whoop!! out the window she goes and on to the next girl he "loves with all his heart forever". This is a regular pattern for the last 3 years. I think he's seriously bi polar but if we even try to talk to him he flips out and threatens your life. Hell he pulled a shot gun on me. He's kooky to say the least.

LOL Bling.

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I am starting to be that way as I get older too, Ginger. I just think it is more a learned behavior for Scorpios, as we evolve, to let go of things and not seek revenge. Whereas with Pisces it comes more naturally.

And of course I admire Pisces but there are qualities in every sign that I admire.

Oh yeah I agree with Scorps having to learn it. I think with me I'm really tired of fighting life all the time. My mother once told me a couple years ago "one day you'll learn life is not always a battle". At the time I was thinking.. okkkkkk Ma but I'm starting to see what she means. LOL It's silly how mom's are always "right" like that. It makes me just sick 😛 lol
Of course having that fighting spirit I will stand up when I think something needs to be said/done without fear or hesitation. Nobody need confuse my lack of action for being passive. No. I'm not passive. Its just if I don't CARE I won't react. Besides, that's what most people try to provoke, a response. I'm ornery enough not to give them the satisfaction 😉

LOL I know. I guess we have a little devil in us yet. 😉

Life is not always a battle... well I guess when you are young and full of piss and vinegar..... you think you gotta take everything on. Again, just to "prove" yourself to be strong. No need for me to do that anymore. I have better things to do. 🙂

And yeah... watching people that try and poke at you squirm is a sorta guilty pleasure. 😛

There is some truth to Pisces having strength in their ability to detach, but to say we don't care is a stretch. For me atleast, if I care about you, of course you can hurt me, but it takes me having feelings in the first place. I may be able to get over the hurt rather quickly, by convincing myself that person no longer matters, but I'm still hurt. How I deal with it is another story. If,however, I don't care about you, there's not much you can say to hurt me...you can anger me, but unlikely that you'll hurt me, unless of course, you're throwing a truth in my face that I would have rather avoided 😛


I think astrology is accurate in certain ways, but I just don't believe that strength, weakness, and physical characteristics is determined by sign. Most of the Scorpios I know in real life, are either more talk than action, relying on their ability to 'appear' intimidating, or are very introverted, only competing with themselves. Most of the Pisces I know are non confrontational and easy going, with the exception of one. If they can't avoid the confrontation, however, they will try to evade it, by manipulating the situation to make the other person end up giving in, be it by playing victim, or back pedalling, or even by being successful in changing the other persons mind.

But in the end, who the victor is, depends upon the individual, not the sign.

Ray Charles can see that!

Obviously enough to see the power in it 🙂

I think its kind of sweet that Dys love for his Scorpio wife makes him so....slanted 🙂

haha

😉

Dy... My scorp has admitted to me and I quote... "Who am I going to blame? Myself? Fuck that shit!" He's told me at times where he MUST succeed that if he fails he will most likely blame me. I don't allow him to, but he once tried to put a lot of faults of his on me that had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with me. Maybe it was all a test, or he thought I'd take the blame like a good little subservient fish/asian, but once I got the opportunity to say my piece he was speechless.

I do agree that we can be hurt IF/WHEN we care. My Scorp has hurt me with his immaturity and selfishness (he has 7 years on me). Before we dated we were really good friends... partners in crime. As soon as we joined forces we both put our armor on and CLINGITY CLANG CLANG CLANG! Clash of the sea creatures... He ended up breaking up with me and I was very hurt. A week after he regretted it, and a 2 months later was at my feet, on his knees, claiming he was just SCARED.

Ugh... I was scared too.. still can be at times... but run away? Just not my style .

Well that's just my story. Currently we're just learning from eachother... slowly getting there. I actually wish I could help him be a little less selfish. How do you tell a Scorpio that without provoking his tail to start wailing?

Oh and another thing... I've noticed Scorpios can be very good at the Art of Insinuation...

@vivalapisces:
"I actually wish I could help him be a little less selfish. How do you tell a Scorpio that without provoking his tail to start wailing?"

Just tell him. Let him not you are not cool with it and he needs to get it together. If he is immature, expect him to get angry, but at least you will have told him. He knows he's selfish.

Posted by pathfinder
@vivalapisces:
"I actually wish I could help him be a little less selfish. How do you tell a Scorpio that without provoking his tail to start wailing?"

Just tell him. Let him not you are not cool with it and he needs to get it together. If he is immature, expect him to get angry, but at least you will have told him. He knows he's selfish.

Thank you pathfinder... he can be very disappointing but I believe in him for some reason. I will let him know when I'm in his face. LOL

I agree with the others Pisces... just tell him. Expect him to be pissed but be pleasently surprised if he only broods about it. 🙂 I'm ok with people telling me my faults but that doesn't mean I won't pout about it for awhile and think it over and then except it do what I can to correct it. BUT only if I care enough about the person to WANT to correct it.
If he gets mad don't worry about it. Know that you were only speaking your mind and standing up for yourself. If he can't handle it that's his problem.

Scorp vs. fish...I mean really who cares? Such an exercise of territory marking with neither proving anything.

As a November Scorp, I think I've Pisces influence, so I'm too loving to involve in any kind of "self-destruction" mode. Also, people are people.Sometimes, they are good, sometimes they're bad.Why cares so much?

Actually, what do you think of an elephant driving a cartwheel?

@Ginger

"I'm ok with people telling me my faults but that doesn't mean I won't pout about it for awhile and think it over and then except it do what I can to correct it. BUT only if I care enough about the person to WANT to correct it. If he gets mad don't worry about it. Know that you were only speaking your mind and standing up for yourself. If he can't handle it that's his problem."

This is sssoooo my husband. Let me add to your statement
"BUT only if I care enough about the person to WANT to correct it".

Yeah, AND in your own friggin' time, too. 😉

My husband doesn't admit he's wrong to me until he dang well feels like it. But fortunately for me, I KNOW him so -- when I tell him something for his own good when we are in a passionate "discussion", I know he won't stand down, but he will get quiet a moment. That "moment of pause" is CRUCIAL in my understanding him. If scorpios are like him, you can bet your life that he has accepted what you said because it is the raw TRUTH and he is ssooo willing to get the truth.

That's why I love him and stuff.... PIA that he can be.

Posted by Starfish225
"Pisces on the other hand is less predictable and is capable of drastic turns in the blink of an eye "


YEP!! I guess we both have our strenghts, but the one main thing about us is we will walk away and leave a person baffled to never be seen again
where as Scorps are to caught up in getting you back rather its for love or revenge..We can love you and walk away just like that..I am sure my pisces peeps can attest to that..You may think you got us and we are hooked bc we can love but trust me we can make a person feel like they never existed
and thats not good.

I'm just glad we're getting out of the age of pisces. And if any of you want to count on a blessing despite whatever y'all might be, be very very appreciative if or when you have awesome Uranus/Aquarius placement(s).

@viva

"he can be very disappointing but I believe in him for some reason"

This isn't surprising. It's because as a piscean, you know they are special.... You naturally get them.
🙂

"get" = understand them.

@Robin

not meaning to hijack this thread, but what are "awesome Uranus/Aquarius placement"

Start another thread on the astrology or the astrology relationships board, k?

Just a thought : This is about Scorpio and Pisces but I think it turned to a Pisces, Air and Earth signs competition.How cool! 😄

Posted by Loved-Up Roxi
pisces women are sometimes quite two-faced and full of their own self-importance (there are exceptions ofcourse), but when push comes to shove, there is no competition. scorpio women have a psychotic streak against which there is no sign more powerful.

About two years ago, I was friends with this pisces woman -- she and I knew each other from high school but we met in class and was like, "OMG I know you!!!!"

She was okay, but in denial about a few things concerning this Saggie guy that she's been in love with every since ... well, high school.

She asked for my opinion concerning the Saggie guy but she swore on her life that he was the most decent person she's ever met. When I tried to tell her others, she stop speaking to me.


^_^. she's the one that asked for my opinion about the guy but she got upset and stopped talking to me *weird*.

I like pisces 🙂 My mom is one but she just loves to yell at me and when I get close enough, hit me a few things ^_^ -- she calls herself knocking a little sense into me lol

However, when it comes to friendship, I seem to get along with scorpios more and more of them try to get to know me.

I get along well with Pisces guys as buddies -- they make awesome friends actually 🙂 there was only one that I couldn't stand.

I actally called my pisces mom today because I'm sick and no matter what I learn in school, what she says usually works lol

I know thats childish of me ... but who gives a damn anyway lol!!!

@eden
"they always regret it"

only if "they" care in the first place. I believe that's where the piscean gets the upper hand. Their Indifference.

Posted by Astrological Aftermath
so far pisces is winning??

people like underdogs rolls eyes

LOL, under who's terms are we the underdogs? i've never felt any less powerful than either an aries or a scorpio, AA ..

There are only a few kinds of "powers" i do respect in this world, however. And it's not an intense stare, believe me..lol

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walked right into that 1 lol,

sheep shagger much?

ewwww aa, you shag sheep?

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walked right into that 1 lol,

sheep shagger much?

ewwww aa, you shag sheep?

if u consider urself a sheep?.... then ya

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i don't consider myself a sheep, but i'd sure as hell let you shag me like one 🙂

surely it's no worse than saying doggy- style

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Posted by trifles light as air*
surely it's no worse than saying doggy- style

it isn't really. the only difference is that you'll be wearing a sheep costume and you'll be making sheep noises

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lmao, you're stewwwwpid.

hey aa, can i tell you a secret?

hahahahahah, that one wasn't public as it was INSIDE