I may have hurt a scorpio (Page 2)

When you told him last year how you felt for him, you had sex back then too? When did the sex begin?

Do you go out as friends? Is anything in his attitude, body language when you're outside that tells you he's feeling more? Do you go out with your friends, his etc?

What things here and there?

I don't know, he seems to like keeping it vague and it's making you uncomfortable. He either wants to go with the flow or he's only into fwb and nothing more. If you can't take this, ask him straight up, like LIB suggested.

Posted by LetltB
If he remains silent.......WALK AWAY AND DON'T LOOK BACK.

If you do look back and he tempts you back in, you only have yourself to blame.

Hmmm...

This seems to be the consensus here. What gives?

When/If scorp comes back, it is only to finish ripping you to shreds?

Posted by Damnata
When you told him last year how you felt for him, you had sex back then too? When did the sex begin?

Do you go out as friends? Is anything in his attitude, body language when you're outside that tells you he's feeling more? Do you go out with your friends, his etc?

What things here and there?

I don't know, he seems to like keeping it vague and it's making you uncomfortable. He either wants to go with the flow or he's only into fwb and nothing more. If you can't take this, ask him straight up, like LIB suggested.

We go out with friends, yes.

One out-of-character thing he did was the first night we went out after we started talking again. He gave me a movie moment surprise kiss right out in public on a city street. He's very very private, so that floored me a little.
Another thing is the little thumb ribs on my shoulder. He never did things like that before. I don't know how to read that.. Fwb? More?

I've told him I can't do fwb. It's not me. I've told him I can't be just friends. This time I have been very clear on that. He just says "ok"

This thread is exactly why virgos go well with scorpios; everybody is vauge with each other, keeps the mystery going.

He might say "ok" as in..."ok, I'll keep getting sex because she won't ask for commitment" but he might also say "ok" as in "..i though she knows/feels i'm into her more than this..why the constant emphasis on friendship?"

Posted by DMV
This thread is exactly why virgos go well with scorpios; everybody is vauge with each other, keeps the mystery going.

bwhahah.

what keeps the mystery going keeps the frustration going if both aren't on the same page.

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by LetltB
If he remains silent.......WALK AWAY AND DON'T LOOK BACK.

If you do look back and he tempts you back in, you only have yourself to blame.

Is your relationship so bad, that you'll attempt to ruin all others too?

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What the hell are you talking about fat ass?

i totally get where you dont believe his words during sex. Id have my guard up as well. I know plenty of men, including scorps who will say anything just to get great emotional sex out of you.

Like LIB said, ask your questions and if you dont like the answer, excuse yourself forever. dont wait for him to excuse you.

Posted by Impulsv
Aw I see it's a matter of trust. N before getting together did u hash out the past how fuel the bailed ect.,.
Or was it like nothing ever happened n now the issues are coming up.

We hashed it out for a month. I told him I don't trust him, he said "as long as it takes, I will fix that"
He said a lot. I remained closed off until I saw him.

Just seems like an awful lot to go through just for sex. He can get that anywhere. At the same time, I have no idea if it's more (on his end)

And... Now he's not talking to me at all so who knows

Posted by Damnata

Posted by DMV
This thread is exactly why virgos go well with scorpios; everybody is vauge with each other, keeps the mystery going.

bwhahah.

what keeps the mystery going keeps the frustration going if both aren't on the same page.

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yup, seems like no one wants to close the door all the way. no one wants to make something official or end it. Lay 2 cards on the table, change 1 card while someone isnt looking.

Posted by Herself

I've told him I can't do fwb. It's not me. I've told him I can't be just friends. This time I have been very clear on that. He just says "ok"

But it's not ok..or you wouldn't be here. So TELL HIM that, and WHY it's not ok. If you don't, well, there's no sense in complaining about it right? We can't tell him for you.

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Posted by Impulsv
Aw I see it's a matter of trust. N before getting together did u hash out the past how fuel the bailed ect.,.
Or was it like nothing ever happened n now the issues are coming up.

We hashed it out for a month. I told him I don't trust him, he said "as long as it takes, I will fix that"
He said a lot. I remained closed off until I saw him.

Just seems like an awful lot to go through just for sex. He can get that anywhere. At the same time, I have no idea if it's more (on his end)

And... Now he's not talking to me at all so who knows

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everyone has sex, not everyone has hot sex.

Posted by DMV

Posted by Damnata

Posted by DMV
This thread is exactly why virgos go well with scorpios; everybody is vauge with each other, keeps the mystery going.

bwhahah.

what keeps the mystery going keeps the frustration going if both aren't on the same page.

yup, seems like no one wants to close the door all the way. no one wants to make something official or end it. Lay 2 cards on the table, change 1 card while someone isnt looking.

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I don't know, you can do that as long as you will have no regrets for putting your foot down.

She seems uncomfortable with the dynamic.

Posted by DMV

Posted by Damnata

Posted by DMV
This thread is exactly why virgos go well with scorpios; everybody is vauge with each other, keeps the mystery going.

bwhahah.

what keeps the mystery going keeps the frustration going if both aren't on the same page.

yup, seems like no one wants to close the door all the way. no one wants to make something official or end it. Lay 2 cards on the table, change 1 card while someone isnt looking.

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I was willing to take the risk of going all in. But I'll be damned if I make a fool of myself by asking him to make it "official" if all he wants is sex.

I need to be sure he's on the same page.. Which is what sparked this

OP, i think he's seeing other people and maybe you are too which is why your both hesitant.

When you guys get ready to ditch your back up plans, things will change and you will leave limbo land. For the good or worse.

I think your scorp will never ditch his back up plan. Your history with each other doesnt support that.

Posted by DMV
OP, i think he's seeing other people and maybe you are too which is why your both hesitant.

When you guys get ready to ditch your back up plans, things will change and you will leave limbo land. For the good or worse.

I think your scorp will never ditch his back up plan. Your history with each other doesnt support that.

I don't have anyone else or a back up plan. He says he doesn't either (do I believe him?)
I don't fall for people. I don't sleep around. All of this is very new to me. I've only been in one other relationship.

Let me add that, if you want to juggle dudes, juggle on. no judgements here. But you cant expect him to stop juggling if you wont.

Posted by Impulsv
Maybe ur confusing him too cuz u say we go out of as Freind but u won't have sex if only Freinds. But ur are having it.
I'd take it as ok been established we are more than Freinds as we are having sex. Based on ur words.

That was part of our last conversation. I'm well aware of the confusion. That's why I wanted to settle it. Instead, what I wanted to say came out wrong and... The silence.

Posted by Herself

I was willing to take the risk of going all in. But I'll be damned if I make a fool of myself by asking him to make it "official" if all he wants is sex.

I need to be sure he's on the same page.. Which is what sparked this

Well if that's your attitude, you will get nowhere I guarantee it. Grow some balls, he'll respect that. If you don't get a response, or if he remains silent, grow some self respect and walk or you'll be sulking for another year.

Posted by DMV
Let me add that, if you want to juggle dudes, juggle on. no judgements here. But you cant expect him to stop juggling if you wont.

Lol no juggling here.

...and for the record:

"I may have hurt a scorpio"

isn't what the issue is here... Your silence out of fear is.

Posted by LetltB

Posted by Herself

I was willing to take the risk of going all in. But I'll be damned if I make a fool of myself by asking him to make it "official" if all he wants is sex.

I need to be sure he's on the same page.. Which is what sparked this

Well if that's your attitude, you will get nowhere I guarantee it. Grow some balls, he'll respect that. If you don't get a response, or if he remains silent, grow some self respect and walk or you'll be sulking for another year.

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That's exactly what I want to do. I want it settled. I just don't want to be the fool.
I don't know how to approach it. I'll grow the balls... Just don't know what exactly to say. Guess i have nothing to lose at this point.

Posted by CluelessCancer
ARE you DIVORCED or are you just CHEATING?

Posted by Herself
Damn... The more I read on here about bad evil Virgo men. The more I ask myself why I ever wanted a divorce from mine.. He's perfect.. No cheating, works hard, great father, great in bed, funny, always put me first, etc.. I really have nothing bad to say about him. He must be another sign in disguise....

OP- stay clear of married/taken men.. Once a cheat, always a cheat. You won't make anyone change their ways.

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(?)

Say "Do you want to be in a relationship with me?"

If he says anything other than yes or no. walk away and never look back.

Posted by LilliLou

Posted by CluelessCancer
ARE you DIVORCED or are you just CHEATING?

Posted by Herself
Damn... The more I read on here about bad evil Virgo men. The more I ask myself why I ever wanted a divorce from mine.. He's perfect.. No cheating, works hard, great father, great in bed, funny, always put me first, etc.. I really have nothing bad to say about him. He must be another sign in disguise....

OP- stay clear of married/taken men.. Once a cheat, always a cheat. You won't make anyone change their ways.

(?)

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Ignore her. She's a stalker who assumes things about me. Made up some swinger accusation not too long ago.. I just laugh.

Posted by DMV
Say "Do you want to be in a relationship with me?"

If he says anything other than yes or no. walk away and never look back.

In the years I've known him, he has never ever answered a question with a "yes" or "no"

I will send that though.. See what happens. Expect the worst, hope for the best, right?

So... your post on your virgo husband was from a long time ago and you are now divorced?

Just so we are all clear as mud.

I'm shutting up 😐

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by LetltB
It's going to take 10 pages and a few sentences each to figure out what the drama is.

Isn't that every thread about a Scorpio man?

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Actually...not every thread:

https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/scorpio/can-i-win-back-my-scorpio-s-heart-4579431/

Posted by Rabbit
I'm going to stop offering any sort of advice, feedback, etc. about Scorpio men.

It seems that while I am a Scorpio man, other people seem to know more about them than the actual Scorpio men here.

DXP: SMDH Exercise in futility #101... Now offering advanced classes 😄

Posted by LilliLou
So... your post on your virgo husband was from a long time ago and you are now divorced?

Just so we are all clear as mud.

Yup. I posted a half sarcastic post about someone I was with for 20 years. I never cheated on him. I never even looked at anyone else. My marriage is long over and has no bearing on this situation.

Posted by Herself

Posted by LilliLou
So... your post on your virgo husband was from a long time ago and you are now divorced?

Just so we are all clear as mud.

Yup. I posted a half sarcastic post about someone I was with for 20 years. I never cheated on him. I never even looked at anyone else. My marriage is long over and has no bearing on this situation.

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Cool, as you were...

Posted by Rabbit
I'm going to stop offering any sort of advice, feedback, etc. about Scorpio men.

It seems that while I am a Scorpio man, other people seem to know more about them than the actual Scorpio men here.

Stop it.

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by Rabbit
I'm going to stop offering any sort of advice, feedback, etc. about Scorpio men.

It seems that while I am a Scorpio man, other people seem to know more about them than the actual Scorpio men here.

I know right?

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Oh, boy. Not you too...

Posted by Rabbit
I'm going to stop offering any sort of advice, feedback, etc. about Scorpio men.

It seems that while I am a Scorpio man, other people seem to know more about them than the actual Scorpio men here.

?? I'm giving common sense advice, I don't care if he's a Scorp male or not. She needs all she can get obviously.

pffft...freaking virgo chicks and their mouths...smh that was some deep shit he said to u, from the heart... and u questioned it?? u say he always has a wall up, he FINALLY opens up and u questioned him??!! He must feel so stupid/embarrassed among other things...dont be shocked if u dont hear from him for months....I dont care if "I" was in love with u, I would avoid at all costs for MONTHS, this poor guys' confidence/ego is freakin crushed.....good luck with that

*avoid YOU

Posted by IrresistableScorp
LIB. Honest question. Have you ever had the official talk with someone you've been in a relationship with? I haven't. Just wondering if scorps do the whole we're official convo.

I'm one of these people who is on a gotta know basis. Put it on the table, I don't like guessing games. I have no fear of rejection, and instead fear wasting valuable time and energy. Never had a problem with it. Obviously timing is everything.

i think we (virgos) sometimes don't see that scorpios are more sensitive than we think, just because they usually have a wall around them or are more quiet and passive. i think what he said was sexy, but i also can understand how you question it too.. it's as if you think maybe the connection between you two is just sex. you have to consider though if maybe sex is his medium to communicate what he truly feels about you, both inside and outside the bedroom. s

Posted by bloodflood
i think we (virgos) sometimes don't see that scorpios are more sensitive than we think, just because they usually have a wall around them or are more quiet and passive. i think what he said was sexy, but i also can understand how you question it too.. it's as if you think maybe the connection between you two is just sex. you have to consider though if maybe sex is his medium to communicate what he truly feels about you, both inside and outside the bedroom. s

That's what I question.
Not to long ago he said "the sex we have isn't normal. That we can ravage each other then ask what's next. We can turn the mundane in to something extrodinary. That most people build on other things, we build on our desires." I still having no effing clue if that's a good thing or bad thing or why he said it. Smh @ myself

Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
your insecurities and ego are screwing you over on this.

I don't think it's the ego. It's the doubt/over analyzing.

LOL @ she's not a damnata

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Posted by Herself

Posted by bloodflood
i think we (virgos) sometimes don't see that scorpios are more sensitive than we think, just because they usually have a wall around them or are more quiet and passive. i think what he said was sexy, but i also can understand how you question it too.. it's as if you think maybe the connection between you two is just sex. you have to consider though if maybe sex is his medium to communicate what he truly feels about you, both inside and outside the bedroom. s

That's what I question.
Not to long ago he said "the sex we have isn't normal. That we can ravage each other then ask what's next. We can turn the mundane in to something extrodinary. That most people build on other things, we build on our desires." I still having no effing clue if that's a good thing or bad thing or why he said it. Smh @ myself

Are you actually confused about what he said or are you confused/frightened by the way what he said made you feel? It sounds like he was straight up but you on the other hand don't know if you love him or not?
Of course you are training to rationalize it all by putting the spotlight on him, you need to look at how you feel? and if you feel uncomfortable then either you don't love him or you are still really afraid to step over that edge.

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I'm confused because it was out of character for him to say something like that and if 'building on desires' is actually a thing. Does this building on desires mean it's all about sex?? That's what I'm not comfortable with. I assumed we would build on the things we have in common, which is everything. But what do I know? Apparently not much where men/relationships are concerned.

I know exactly how I feel about him. I don't question that.

Forgot about her leo moon..yeah, it's a blow to her ego. For me, it would be a blow to my patience

build on our desires isn't only about sex ffs. you are determined to see something negative in that? just because he said it referencing sex? it spills into life as well.

stomach, the astrology books say.

Let me try this..

You're a Virgo Woman.
Virgo + Woman
Virgo = mercurial sign => words as means of expression
Woman = woman => words as means of expression

Virgo + Woman => words + words => strong emphasis on words. add earth as an element, strong emphasis on words and certainty.

He's a Scorpio Man
Scorpio + Man
Scorpio = Ruled by Pluto and Mars => sex and actions as means of expression
Man = Man => actions as means of expression

Scorpio + Man => Sex and actions and actions => actions. add water as an element, strong emphasis on every other type of emotional expression and possibility as opposed to certainty.

It boils down to different types of expressing emotions.

Posted by CluelessCancer
ARE you DIVORCED or are you just CHEATING?

Posted by Herself
Damn... The more I read on here about bad evil Virgo men. The more I ask myself why I ever wanted a divorce from mine.. He's perfect.. No cheating, works hard, great father, great in bed, funny, always put me first, etc.. I really have nothing bad to say about him. He must be another sign in disguise....

OP- stay clear of married/taken men.. Once a cheat, always a cheat. You won't make anyone change their ways.

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ROFLMAO

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Posted by Whatu

Posted by Herself

Posted by bloodflood
i think we (virgos) sometimes don't see that scorpios are more sensitive than we think, just because they usually have a wall around them or are more quiet and passive. i think what he said was sexy, but i also can understand how you question it too.. it's as if you think maybe the connection between you two is just sex. you have to consider though if maybe sex is his medium to communicate what he truly feels about you, both inside and outside the bedroom. s

That's what I question.
Not to long ago he said "the sex we have isn't normal. That we can ravage each other then ask what's next. We can turn the mundane in to something extrodinary. That most people build on other things, we build on our desires." I still having no effing clue if that's a good thing or bad thing or why he said it. Smh @ myself

Are you actually confused about what he said or are you confused/frightened by the way what he said made you feel? It sounds like he was straight up but you on the other hand don't know if you love him or not?
Of course you are training to rationalize it all by putting the spotlight on him, you need to look at how you feel? and if you feel uncomfortable then either you don't love him or you are still really afraid to step over that edge.

I'm confused because it was out of character for him to say something like that and if 'building on desires' is actually a thing. Does this building on desires mean it's all about sex?? That's what I'm not comfortable with. I assumed we would build on the things we have in common, which is everything. But what do I know? Apparently not much where men/relationships are concerned.

I know exactly how I feel about him. I don't question that.

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Desires isn't just sexual energy. Desire is and can be the dream world we create inside that we hope for and create in life. When you have two people with shared dreams, shared DESIRES, then you have the potential to stand hand in hand with that person and move forward together in life....sharing DESIRE, or dreams. See?

If all else fails, grab a baseball bat and beat him up. He will start talking in no time.