Scorpio son romancing a new woman .....

.. and it appears as though he's bored already. 😢


So, what is the cause of boredom anyway?

Is it really the other person, or yourself because you are expecting more than the other can provide?

Scorps always look bored.

Does he just appear to be bored or did he actually SAY he's bored?

Cuz...just cuz he appears to be bored doesnt necessarily mean he IS bored, ya know?

Maybe it's just because of relativity with his ex Ram, who kept drama flowing 24/7 .... this new woman is a Virgo, and she's CALM, shoots straight and doesn't cause chaos, like his Ram did at every turn.


So, maybe you're right, Newbie .. he probably isn't really bored, he's just getting a taste of reason, and doesn't know what to do with it.

Well, having said that if that virgo doesn't throw him a little drama, or react like she has some fire in her when HE stirs up some shit, he's probably gonna bounce.

I think they seriously get turned on by drama. It's a form of passion intensified. Jase and I did nothing but fight all through our teens and college. I honestly don't know what we were doing together.

I remember this one time we were arguing. His eyes literally turn green when he's angry.

So we were arguing and he was glaring at me all green-eyed...I could almost see the fire coming out of his nostrils...I thought he was gonna give me a wollop.

Next thing I knew I was being pinned to the wall and having my clothes ripped off.

You may be right about the drama ... he does need to some degree, however, constant is very unstable, and he cherishes stability in his life and always aspires to reach goals. One thing he referenced just yesterday was ..... he wants to own his own restaurant one day and when he said this to his ex-Aries, she said, "right, like that would ever happen" .. whereas his new girl says, "Really, let's make it happen".

Obviously Ram said that to create drama ... make him argue with her about WHY this isn't unrealistic, why this could happen, she presented the negative to make him fight .... whereas, his new girl is like, hell yeah, a man with goals, I like this shit. 🙂

I don't know much about astrology compared to others in here, but, it seems like they have a lot of compatibility ...


Her

Sun Virgo 29.42
Moon Cancer 7.51
Mercury Libra 4.12 R
Venus Scorpio 11.52
Mars Libra 2.02
Jupiter Cancer 8.48
Saturn Capricorn 7.24
Uranus Capricorn 1.24
Neptune Capricorn 9.37
Pluto Scorpio 13.25


Him

Sun Scorpio 10.17
Moon Capricorn 14.53
Mercury Libra 21.39
Venus Sagittarius 27.09
Mars Virgo 7.20
Jupiter Libra 24.59
Saturn Libra 16.10
Uranus Scorpio 29.11
Neptune Sagittarius 23.03
Pluto Libra 24.56



His Mars in Virgo - her Virgo sun
Her Venus in Scorpio - his Scorpio sun
Their moons are polar opposites, though .. is that a problem?

VE is a Virgo with a Cancer moon and if I use him as an example as far as being emotionally expressive .. I would say that this new girl will probably be so, also.


However, my son doesn't play head-games like what gets said in here .. in fact, he's quite the opposite ... they freak him out, and make his Stinger come out because he's on guard from the other person trying to fuck with his head. Usually, he just dips, rather than punishing.

I'm thinkin these two are going to be good for each other .. they both have Mercury in Libra, so their communication style should be very similar .. shouldn't it?


Starfish ... can you decipher these charts for me, please?

Well, I don't mean drama like putting him down cuz that's just whack. But he needs passion in a woman.

Earth naturally provides stability to water so I'm not surprised she's stable. Let's just hope she's not boring stable.

Does he change partners a lot? His sag venus seems to indicate that. As for that cap moon lol...ya.

My dad's a scorp with a cap moon and boy is he emotionally cruel. I don't know how her sensitive cancer moon will take it. But the opposition attracts them.

If Scorpio and Virgo are really good together, which seems to be the case, and man are from mars and women from venus ... then should this mean a good pairing ...


Her venus in Scorpio .. his mars in Virgo

He used to change partners a lot when he was younger = man slut. But, the last 5 years, he's been with one woman exclusively = mother of his children. Being a father, keeping steady work, having a mortgage, car payment (all that grown-up stuff), has changed him a lot, to include his personal life .... he isn't promiscious any longer.

As for his Sun/Moon combo .. yeah, he can be very emotionally cruel when it's warranted .. however, that's not his normal disposition. Only when he feels like he's been betrayed and the Stinger comes out does he get cruel. But, I really don't see that as a problem in him because it's only when someone has fucked him over that his happens.

The charts say she is older than him.

They look good on paper plus they have a saturn connection which is the glue to any relationship so it has staying power as long as she doesn't try to control him too much...being older and all.

Mom, I have to ask you a side question. How did you obtain the new girls birth chart information? I've always wondered how people go about acquiring someone eleses info. I mean, if its a relative to you, then you might even know the birth time and all that. Or an intimate partner, just ask them. But as for someone a little less close to you, how do you approach that situation? Sorry for interupting. Carry on.

It just seems like when I look at these charts (which I'm not that good at determining, really) .. I see all kinds of compatibility.

Like for instance .. her Pluto in Scorpio .. shouldn't this make her very determined in her convictions and not put up with any crap? So, if the two ever get into disagreements and he gets ugly with her, she won't tolerate any bullshit and be able to put him in line?

Tollbooth, my son knows that the first question out of my mouth when he tells me a new person has come into his life .. beit, lover, friend, comrade ...... When's his/her birthday?

He told me when she was born in the same sentence as him telling me he has a new partner.

Hey .. what a son, huh? He knows mom.

So, two people's Saturn should have a strong aspect for a good union?

Or, do you mean each of the Saturn's should have a strong aspect with the other planets?


:: scratches head ::


Maybe I should go into cafeastrology and just do a compatibility reading ... ta da, hey ... why do something the easy way, when the hard way of asking one little question at a time is available?

That's the slightly worrying part p-angel. Her pluto on his sun together with her saturn on his moon will give her an overwhelming urge to control him.

It's not gonna be pretty.

Uh, yeah .. control won't work 😢

He may be laid back for his kind .. but, control?


The controlling Ram, who was fiercely so, using tantrums, guilt, anything at her disposal to control him .... got kicked to the curb.

So, if the camels back breaks .. it may well be this aspect.

So far .. she hasn't presented any of those qualities, though .. he says she's very composed, accepting and has a great sense of values.

He said that whenever they have a difference in opinion, which of course any two people will have ... that she puts her head together with his to sort it out, without getting self-righteous or demanding.

Me thinks these two are going to go far together .... he wouldn't even mention to me about her if she was just a passing fling. For the fact that he told me he was with a new woman .. tells me he has respect for her.


Yay !!!!!!! I'm so happy sitting over here .. my son has respect for a new woman in his life .. this is just GREAT !!!!!!!

^^^ LOL

Only time will tell...sounds like they've only just started their little dance. Those controlling aspects will come out as the relationship progresses cuz this is what the birth charts are saying.

He may not be feeling this right now cuz of their progressive aspects. Progressive aspects tend not to last very long and can sometimes take over the birth chart aspects. However, with time, when the progressive aspects end, the birth aspects...aka...control kick in.

Well this certainly puts a lot of your ram/scorpio comments over the past few months into context.

I don't know how one goes from an explosive ram to a gentle Virgal so easily. Period of adjustment?

Like I said, some guys are drawn to b1tches and some guys aren't.

LOL

"No man likes a bitch, trust me."

^ That is just not true.

Hell yeah, him and I have discussed all this.

"I find that this aspect of a mother becoming overindulgent in her sons romantic interests is a bit freaky and distateful. Because no matter what, at some point the mother will not see eye to eye with the sons' wife/gf and then there will be outright war! and you have formed too many opinions that cannot be taken away....blah blah blah.......distasteful.."


That's very unfortunate ^^^^^^


Thankfully, my son and I are close.

What would be interesting to know p-angel is what their rising signs are and the houses the planets are in.

I know people have been going on about virgos and scorpios but we're not just talking sun signs here. There's a whole lot more going on in your son and his partner's complete chart that have nothing to do with simply being a virgo and a scorpio.

I know his birth-time, but, not hers .. he said he would find out for me, for he knows her family real good. In fact, he spends a lot of time at her parents house with her getting to know her parents.

He said they are really cool ....

Just use 12pm for her and see what it throws out.

"at some point the mother will not see eye to eye with the sons' wife/gf and then there will be outright war!"



That's a very disturbing mind-set, simply me ... much like his ex would view differences in life .. thank god he knows better about people than to jump to an immediate decision that a difference constitutes war.

"Maybe she is speaking from her experience.."

LOL...I was gonna say that..but decided not to. Her response was very personal. Now THAT'S what I call drama.

"Scorp bored with Virgo cuz she doesn't cause drama, yet IF we were to cause drama
they'd bolt because you'd be a drama queen."

No no...you're not supposed to be a drama queen. HE'S supposed to be the drama queen...however...you're supposed to react with passion when he starts the drama. They thrive on passion.

If a virgo or any other sign lacks passion, the scorp will bounce...period. Passion comes in many forms. Fighting is just one of them.

ah yes... one of the many reasons I keep coming back.

Other highlights include:

1. hearing how horrible scorp men are.
2. pondering the complexities of human nature and of course the universe.
3. bashing aries.

How can this be? I put in his time of birth, and hers at 12:00, and their houses are nearly in the exact same position, eventhough they were born 8 years apart, not even the same month?


:: scratches head ::


Him

Ascendant Sagittarius 5.32
II Capricorn 7.49
III Aquarius 14.49
IV Pisces 21.03
V Aries 21.11
VI Taurus 15.14
VII Gemini 5.32
VIII Cancer 7.49
IX Leo 14.49
Midheaven Virgo 21.03
XI Libra 21.11
XII Scorpio 15.14



Her

Ascendant Sagittarius 1.25
II Capricorn 2.49
III Aquarius 8.25
IV Pisces 14.17
V Aries 15.15
VI Taurus 10.21
VII Gemini 1.25
VIII Cancer 2.49
IX Leo 8.25
Midheaven Virgo 14.17
XI Libra 15.15
XII Scorpio

LOL...p-angel that's bizarre. Are ya sure you did it right?

"Yeah can tell you like drama.."

Nah, I'm just playful 🙂

"Make your mind up!!!"

:: flashback ::

Do you hate Fishies or lurve him?

I hate and lurve them..... 😉

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

* lurve them

can we hug now?

I did the reading again ... their houses are what I posted above.


What does this mean?


Wow ... they will relate like a perfectly timed dance, won't they?


Wait until I tell him this (though, he doesn't really care about astrology and just humors me with it) ... he won't get all excited about these being conjuncted ... but, bless his heart, he will be excited that I am about it.

He's a good son .. no question.

LOL...I think you just need to get both their correct times of birth and locations.

Why did you sense he was bored though p-angel?

Scorpion rising made a valid point earlier. It's not usual human behaviour to switch from one extreme to another...aka...the dramatic aries to the seemingly dull virgo.

My personal opinion is that I'm not so sure it's going to work. Not because she's no a great woman cuz I dont know her, but based on what your son seems to be attracted to. How long was he with the aries and how long has he been with the virgo?

Sounds like a rebound relationship.

That is a valid point .. however, his past ex's (before wife ex), his girlfriends were very mild mannered. In fact, when he hooked up with his wife, we were astounded that there was even an attraction. However, his other ex's didn't quite have the practicality that this one seems to express.

He had a long-time girlfriend to whom I know he loved a lot ... she was a Sagittarius, and though she was a little to wandering for him, she was also very calm in her disposition.

What appeared as boredom earlier to me has now been put into a different perspective, once we've discussed all this .... I don't think he's bored .. I think he's just trying to make out what is going on in his life right now, and this woman is just so peaceful with him, that he doesn't know what to do with himself.

For example: He calls me when he's at her house, and this was one clue to me that something must be amiss with how he's feeling. Why would he be at her place, can call me? < I thought he was bored and needed to divert his attention, since him and I get into hours long, deep convos.

But, if I look closer at this .... what an idoit I am, really ... because when he calls me he's talking about HER, filling me in on all the details of her and her family.

P-angel if we combine astrology with relationships as I will here... when people on the outside look at a relationship and go "awwwww they look great together", this is cuz the composite chart is probably great. The composite chart is a chart of the relationship and doesnt tell you how they react to each other...which is why the two people could end up splitting up and people go "omg..how did this happen? they were great together"

Same thing with looking at a couple and going...good lord how the hell are THEY still together? My relationship is one of those where people on the outside would say that...however, the actual interaction is way different than what the outside is showing.

Maybe your son is trying too hard and going for what he thinks he should be going for cuz the fiery girls he's attracted to are "not supposed" to work out? I dont know.

Like I said before, time will tell. But the drastic switch is a bit iffy.

The Virgo is new .... only like a month. He was with Aries for 5 years, and sired two children with her.

It's possible that it's a rebound relationship .. but, I don't think so. I know my son very well, and historically, he didn't bother mentioning to me all his many, many women he's had .. unless they meant something special to him. And this would include women he was with on rebound < if those women didn't mean anything to him, eventhough they were rebounders, he wouldn't talk about them .. because they didn't matter.

I'm just excited as hell, is all .... he is a very secretive man, to say the least .. and I know as well as I'm sitting here that IF he tells me about a person in his life .. then this person has meaning to him.

For 5 years, he's been unhappy, staying in a relationship because he knocked her up, and it was his duty to be a man and own up ... all the while, he would call me so fucking miserable with this life, knowing that I was a sanity check to him. So, even if this new relationship only lasts a brief moment in time .. I KNOW him well enough to know that he's delighted in being with her, she makes him feel good about himself, for a change .. and equates to personal growth, whether it's lasting or not.

Did someone actually imply that Virgos don't bitch or nag?

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Someone should tell that ^^^^^ to my husband.

You have my full permission to put it in big bold ALL CAPS, print it out and tape it to his shaving mirror.

Be glad you've never met any of the critical perfectionist ones. I hope you are never subjected to that. lol

"I probably would appreciate more than hate it, but who knows."

omg, girl! You are SO tempting fate right there....lol