Do i stay on my ground.. (Page 2)

I'm a harsh bitch tonight!!

Astrology aside, I really do feel Agent's advice would be worth following.

Posted by AgentP911
I'm a harsh bitch tonight!!

A little harsh on the delivery, but making damn good points.

my advice would be

"be the bull."

it's lovely that you are getting the attention you want to receive but i would echo agentp's warning to be a little cautious.

in this instance the bull's temperament is the one you should adopt. it is absolutely 100% correct in this this case. you need to wait now. you need to slow it right the way down. you need to watch him. you need to see what he does and not jump into his bed until he is consistent and you know the person he proclaims to be is the person that he is. the only way you can assess this is over time. people always show their true selves eventually. wait it out until then.

the beauty of this is if he is sincere you don't have to worry that you have made him wait. as we all know, they don't mind a slower pace. if he means what he says then he will stay the course with you. and the upside of this is, he will more than likely value and treasure you more for being this way. win-win.

I've done the delusional shit before so I read this the same. Seeing it for what it is. There's nothing wrong with the whole thing. You just gotta stick your ground and set boundaries. Fucking him isn't going to get her what she wants. This dudes ultimate goal right now is to have sex with her so how can he encourage this? By being nice to her and being the perfect gentleman and then inviting her round which creates the opportunity for sex. He wasn't being the perfect gentleman before when he couldn't be bothered to contact her on numerous times. Where is his consistency? All he's doing is setting his ground rules which are that he doesn't want a relationship with her but he wants to fuck her. He's issued his terms and she's walking right into accepting them without considering her own terms, which should be no sex or staying at his or even going to his place. He's not offering a relationship so she's not offering sex. The last time I checked sex usually happens in relationships. If it's not in a relationship then it's either a one night stand or a FWB. Neither of which is what she wants.

Posted by jeane
my advice would be

"be the bull."

it's lovely that you are getting the attention you want to receive but i would echo agentp's warning to be a little cautious.

in this instance the bull's temperament is the one you should adopt. it is absolutely 100% correct in this this case. you need to wait now. you need to slow it right the way down. you need to watch him. you need to see what he does and not jump into his bed until he is consistent and you know the person he proclaims to be is the person that he is. the only way you can assess this is over time. people always show their true selves eventually. wait it out until then.

the beauty of this is if he is sincere you don't have to worry that you have made him wait. as we all know, they don't mind a slower pace. if he means what he says then he will stay the course with you. and the upside of this is, he will more than likely value and treasure you more for being this way. win-win.

Exactly this.

Test him by meeting him outside your respective homes.

If he agrees then ok.
If he turns up then ok.

That's round one completed. Then you can progress to round two!

If he starts to fuck about then you have your answer.

Play the waiting game. You will see. Why make it easy for him? Has he made it easy for you? No. You're a Scorp! Wait and wait and wait and see how long he will wait for. As Jeane says, he will value you more.

Posted by AgentP911

Posted by seezythescorpion

Posted by AgentP911
AgentP911 raises an eyebrow to 'it would be sweet to sleep together...'

To be veryy honest, he probably would know that once we agreed to meet up the "sleeping together" would be hard to resist on both ends anyway. With This "would be nice to sleep together" statement he actually meant..stay with me tonight, lets not sleep alone.

Don't be so fucking naive.

Of course he means stay the night and sleep together which inevitably will result in sex. Which means you'll be back to square one.

This guy is not stupid.

Just because he's sugar coating the fact he wants a fuck doesn't make his intentions towards you any more palatable.

If I could lock your vagina in a chastity belt then I would. By all means go see him, spend time with him, learn more about him, quality time, but leave off the intimate stuff.

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Agent once again good points made so thank youu. The thing is this guy is blunt when it comes to sex.

He has his dirty talks. He easily comes out saying i miss ur taste, i wanna treetrunk you and it would be nice if you spend the night thats if you want to as well, sleeping together would be sweet. mind you he has work in the morning.

I dunno about what hes thinking but i know i enjoy my time With this guy, its not easy for me to trust anyone before i get intimate. I am familiar and comfortable with him now. we do have some kind of Connection here , Hes not sleeping with other women and since im not pursuing anyone else too, is it too much of a bad idea to keep things as they are and see what happens.

emotions are toned down, im at peace there since he opened up about a few things.

i still might have something to learn out of this situation.

The thing is, you guys should know when a scorp is done, we are done. And im clearly not there yet. I havent felt that pain to the point where ill be like "fuck you, your not worth it". I sure will know when the time is right if it comes to that point. always learned the hard way.

@Seezythescorpion


I can't stress this enough. Bulls are fixed, consistent signs. We move in a linear pattern. We adopt the "If it aint broke, don't try to fix it" concept. It's black or white, no shaded gray areas with us. The biggest complications individuals have with Bulls is trying to move in the 'gray/shaded' areas, and expecting us to dot the I's and cross the "T's." It will not happen.

We can't tell you who you are...or what you want.

We're busy trying to figure that out. Who YOU are, and what YOU want. And if we can't find out who you really are, we will never see longevity with you, thus the disappearing acts, and the hot and cold treatments.

Why attach ourselves to something that is uncertain.

Know who you are and know what you want before courting a Bull.

The Bulls may move at slower pace, but I guarantee their actions will be linear and consistent.
We will know where we stand with you. Ask a direct question, and you will get a direct answer.

Posted by AgentP911

Posted by jeane
my advice would be

"be the bull."

it's lovely that you are getting the attention you want to receive but i would echo agentp's warning to be a little cautious.

in this instance the bull's temperament is the one you should adopt. it is absolutely 100% correct in this this case. you need to wait now. you need to slow it right the way down. you need to watch him. you need to see what he does and not jump into his bed until he is consistent and you know the person he proclaims to be is the person that he is. the only way you can assess this is over time. people always show their true selves eventually. wait it out until then.

the beauty of this is if he is sincere you don't have to worry that you have made him wait. as we all know, they don't mind a slower pace. if he means what he says then he will stay the course with you. and the upside of this is, he will more than likely value and treasure you more for being this way. win-win.

Exactly this.

Test him by meeting him outside your respective homes.

If he agrees then ok.
If he turns up then ok.

That's round one completed. Then you can progress to round two!

If he starts to fuck about then you have your answer.

Play the waiting game. You will see. Why make it easy for him? Has he made it easy for you? No. You're a Scorp! Wait and wait and wait and see how long he will wait for. As Jeane says, he will value you more.

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All these sounds perfect to me. I havent taken the offer. I am sure watching it all. And from what ive seen, Comparing to how things were before, i felt we have taken a few steps on building a better friendship aside the intimacy part of the whole thing.

as i said i am alot calmer now. I dont freak out if i do/dont hear from him, i know the times ive waited for days to see if he would write trust me, im really over that now. Everything is slowing down on my side, the effort i used to make, my emotions, expectations even. Im on a good balance.

Im just going to take the advice u guys have given above and see how the bull takes it.

Good luck Seezy 🙂

Posted by Eris
Good luck Seezy 🙂

Yup, best of luck!

Posted by TaurusBull1977
@Seezythescorpion


I can't stress this enough. Bulls are fixed, consistent signs. We move in a linear pattern. We adopt the "If it aint broke, don't try to fix it" concept. It's black or white, no shaded gray areas with us. The biggest complications individuals have with Bulls is trying to move in the 'gray/shaded' areas, and expecting us to dot the I's and cross the "T's." It will not happen.

We can't tell you who you are...or what you want.

We're busy trying to figure that out. Who YOU are, and what YOU want. And if we can't find out who you really are, we will never see longevity with you, thus the disappearing acts, and the hot and cold treatments.

Why attach ourselves to something that is uncertain.

Know who you are and know what you want before courting a Bull.

The Bulls may move at slower pace, but I guarantee their actions will be linear and consistent.
We will know where we stand with you. Ask a direct question, and you will get a direct answer.

Very well understood Taurusbull. I talk on the matters i need direct answers to. I just dont get the clear answers and i know it Really is due to him not knowing what HE wants. If He didnt want it that strongly and was sure, when i brought the topic up, i would bet on anything he wouldnt waste a second on blunt out telling me, there wont be no relationship. Hes given me an explanation, and im just giving it the time.

His actions are getting alot more consistent since we had that talk, i sometimes have a hard time expressing things too, though ive been honest with him for all i can.

it is now time for him To show his true colours.

Posted by AgentP911

Posted by Eris
Good luck Seezy 🙂

Yup, best of luck!

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Muchos Gracias amigas.. appreciate the advices and good wishes xx

Posted by TaurusBull1977
@Seezythescorpion


I can't stress this enough. Bulls are fixed, consistent signs. We move in a linear pattern. We adopt the "If it aint broke, don't try to fix it" concept. It's black or white, no shaded gray areas with us. The biggest complications individuals have with Bulls is trying to move in the 'gray/shaded' areas, and expecting us to dot the I's and cross the "T's." It will not happen.

We can't tell you who you are...or what you want.

We're busy trying to figure that out. Who YOU are, and what YOU want. And if we can't find out who you really are, we will never see longevity with you, thus the disappearing acts, and the hot and cold treatments.

Why attach ourselves to something that is uncertain.

Know who you are and know what you want before courting a Bull.

The Bulls may move at slower pace, but I guarantee their actions will be linear and consistent.
We will know where we stand with you. Ask a direct question, and you will get a direct answer.

this is great advice and i think, if i can be so indulgent as to repeat myself, the exact mindset you should adopt seezy.

- be black or white
- try to figure out who he really is (before jumping in again

Above advice taken.. Trust me jeane i try.

Anything i need to do, im doing. From being honest and confident to slowing down the pace, keeping emotions grounded. I will be watching his consistency with care and if it fails next time he contacts me with such offers i will be more direct and will stick to it.

Posted by seezythescorpion
Above advice taken.. Trust me jeane i try.

Anything i need to do, im doing. From being honest and confident to slowing down the pace, keeping emotions grounded. I will be watching his consistency with care and if it fails next time he contacts me with such offers i will be more direct and will stick to it.

like the others, i wish you good luck.

Posted by jeane

Posted by seezythescorpion
Above advice taken.. Trust me jeane i try.

Anything i need to do, im doing. From being honest and confident to slowing down the pace, keeping emotions grounded. I will be watching his consistency with care and if it fails next time he contacts me with such offers i will be more direct and will stick to it.

like the others, i wish you good luck.

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Thanks Jeane. Appreciate it x

Posted by busyeyes88
Seezy. Because taurus is fixed, I feel it will be very hard to turn a person from an fwb into a proper real relationship. He's already milking the cow so why would he want to change things? Any changes he is making now, is just so that he can milk the cow a little longer while he searches for a relationship potential...

This ^^^

Never enable a routine with a Bull that you're not comfortable with.
People forget we're the fixed signs of complacency.

If the OP wants to be viewed as a potential partner.
She will have to omit sex with this man...
And gradually start presenting herself as a candidate for a potential relationship.
She will have to be firm, very vocal and consistent. Her actions will need to back up her statements.

Any passive/aggressive behavior she exudes (expecting him to dot the "I's" and cross the "T's" will never happen in this lifetime.)

Posted by busyeyes88

Yes the more we spend time with someone the more we quickly become attached which I also think attachment is also a fear in bulls so we like to take our time first and weigh up things... Cautious!!

This ^^^

Why invest ourselves emotionally for uncertainty?

If we do not feel 100% safe with you....it aint happening!

@op

do you have placements simillar to mine?

because a part of your cluelessness is so so like me. for better or for worse lol.

Busyeyes and TaurusBull thank you for the advice and the points ur pointing out. I am considering all of what you ladies mentioned above.

@Damnata - lol. im not sure if i do. I have rising and moon in fire signs(sag&aries). The rest of my chart is all water&earth.. except the Gemini Mars. Lol

Yeah, exactly.

You have Moon in Aries, rising Sag right? Same as me. Or moon in sag, rising in aries? Same influence though.

I should really start predicting the future lmao.

Water Venus too?

Oh man, do I even want to read this topic through? CAN I STAND THE MIRROR?

I also have just one placement in fire..Gemini Jupiter

in air*

fuck the sky lately! i keep making spelling/grammar mistakes!

Posted by Damnata
Yeah, exactly.

You have Moon in Aries, rising Sag right? Same as me. Or moon in sag, rising in aries? Same influence though.

I should really start predicting the future lmao.

Water Venus too?

Oh man, do I even want to read this topic through? CAN I STAND THE MIRROR?

I also have just one placement in fire..Gem
ini Jupiter

You got it right! Moon in aries&sag rising. Is it that obvious i have water venus.? doesnt help when its in scorpio. Lol

I really dont know if ull be able to handle it. I myself cant handle when i reread what i say at times. Lol