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Eh, I don't really see the issue, here. She didn't know he had a gf and it doesn't sound like there was even sex involved. Making out with a stranger doesn't make someone a whore or slut, in my books. Sounds like OP may be younger and up for some fun. Although, I'll agree that I don't see much of a point to OP posting this.
It's the title of this thread that makes her sound like a whore. She used the word cheat. Also, the title makes her sound trashy like she got some honourable man to cheat on his gf. First, he's not honourable and second, it doesn't take a lot to make a man cheat on his wife/gf. As my aunt says, if a woman opens her legs wide in front of a man face, why won't he take it?
He won't take it because he loves his wife, is loyal to her, has integrity, etc. I feel sorry for you and your aunt if this is your view of men.
I feel sorry for your naïveté. LOL
Enlighten me Aquarius, wise herald of the New Age. Pour out the waters of renewal from your deep wells of wisdom. Lead us down the path to open-minded equality, acceptance, and freedom by way of your aunt's blatant sexism.
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Oh, lookie here. A woman who cried sexism. I knew your delusional feminist tendency would show at some point. I hate to tell you but it is what it is: the biological make up is different and that's as simple as im going to put it. If you have a hard time accepting it, then that's your problem. Men should be loyal but it's unfortunate that they don't know how to be. It has to do with opportunity. Sure, there are exceptions but very rare in the case of men.
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honestly I didn't expect this much response... bows down. The point is. ... I KISSED A TAURUS AND I LOVED IT !!!!! pity he is taken. I was just having some fun. It's DECEMBER BOSS. .. No
harm 4 me having some lip service done.

And that's my point. ...

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OP - I don't think anyone cares at this point; we've found more interesting reasons to argue amongst ourselves...lol. Slightly slooty story though, overall, IMO...I give it a a 6 out of 10 on the sloot scale.
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Eh, I don't really see the issue, here. She didn't know he had a gf and it doesn't sound like there was even sex involved. Making out with a stranger doesn't make someone a whore or slut, in my books. Sounds like OP may be younger and up for some fun. Although, I'll agree that I don't see much of a point to OP posting this.
It's the title of this thread that makes her sound like a whore. She used the word cheat. Also, the title makes her sound trashy like she got some honourable man to cheat on his gf. First, he's not honourable and second, it doesn't take a lot to make a man cheat on his wife/gf. As my aunt says, if a woman opens her legs wide in front of a man face, why won't he take it?
He won't take it because he loves his wife, is loyal to her, has integrity, etc. I feel sorry for you and your aunt if this is your view of men.
I feel sorry for your naïveté. LOL
Enlighten me Aquarius, wise herald of the New Age. Pour out the waters of renewal from your deep wells of wisdom. Lead us down the path to open-minded equality, acceptance, and freedom by way of your aunt's blatant sexism.
Oh, lookie here. A woman who cried sexism. I knew your delusional feminist tendency would show at some point. I hate to tell you but it is what it is: the biological make up is different and that's as simple as im going to put it. If you have a hard time accepting it, then that's your problem. Men should be loyal but it's unfortunate that they don't know how to be. It has to do with opportunity. Sure, there are exceptions but very rare in the case of men.

Same goes with female who should be loyal too and it's also unfortunate that they don't know how to be.
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i wouldn't take anything aqua09 says in this department seriously. she thinks every man secretly wants to fuck her.

i'm not sure if it is a cultural thing...i was brought up hearing very similar things. it's all based in misogyny though. it allows the men to get away with practically anything (cheating, flirting, disregarding their partners feeling and ignoring their personhood) while also demonising women and controlling their sexuality.
Here comes the jealous libra. I never once said anything about every man wanting to sleep with me. LOL. Your comments are usually catty and lame. I don't even know why I bother with you.
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jealous of what?
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Oh, lookie here. A woman who cried sexism. I knew your delusional feminist tendency would show at some point. I hate to tell you but it is what it is: the biological make up is different and that's as simple as im going to put it. If you have a hard time accepting it, then that's your problem. Men should be loyal but it's unfortunate that they don't know how to be. It has to do with opportunity. Sure, there are exceptions but very rare in the case of men.
delusional feminist tendency? 😆
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i wouldn't take anything aqua09 says in this department seriously. she thinks every man secretly wants to fuck her.

i'm not sure if it is a cultural thing...i was brought up hearing very similar things. it's all based in misogyny though. it allows the men to get away with practically anything (cheating, flirting, disregarding their partners feeling and ignoring their personhood) while also demonising women and controlling their sexuality.
Jeane, I think it must be a cultural thing..... if I remember correctly, aqua09 is still a virgin even she is 25ish..... so it must be a cultural thing and its a pity somewhere woman are still so repressed...
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* not that is anything wrong with beeing a virgin at 25 or any age, mind you! just paired with this unhealthy view of man as Aqua09 and her female part of family think of man is repressed...
at the risk of being called islamaphobic, it is not an unknown belief amongst certain circles in islam.

having brushed the outskirts of the religion in my upbringing, i heard it there as well.

in australia, about a decade ago, there were several horrific rapes committed by a gang of young lebanese boys who specifically targeted young white australian girls. it resulted in terrible rioting and lots of damage between muslim and non-muslim relations in the country.

anyway, at the time here is what one muslim leader said...

from here (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114)

""If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

He said women were "weapons" used by "Satan" to control men.

"It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa)."
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now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
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i wouldn't take anything aqua09 says in this department seriously. she thinks every man secretly wants to fuck her.

i'm not sure if it is a cultural thing...i was brought up hearing very similar things. it's all based in misogyny though. it allows the men to get away with practically anything (cheating, flirting, disregarding their partners feeling and ignoring their personhood) while also demonising women and controlling their sexuality.
Jeane, I think it must be a cultural thing..... if I remember correctly, aqua09 is still a virgin even she is 25ish..... so it must be a cultural thing and its a pity somewhere woman are still so repressed...
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Look at all the assumptions and projections. Just cause you come from some narrow minded culture, doesn't mean I do too or that my beliefs are derived from my culture. I'm a virgin for reasons wayyyy above culture. If you wanna discuss my culture, I will tell you how sexialized it is and that if I wanted, I could've disposed of my virginity a long time ago. 😉
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* not that is anything wrong with beeing a virgin at 25 or any age, mind you! just paired with this unhealthy view of man as Aqua09 and her female part of family think of man is repressed...
at the risk of being called islamaphobic, it is not an unknown belief amongst certain circles in islam.

having brushed the outskirts of the religion in my upbringing, i heard it there as well.

in australia, about a decade ago, there were several horrific rapes committed by a gang of young lebanese boys who specifically targeted young white australian girls. it resulted in terrible rioting and lots of damage between muslim and non-muslim relations in the country.

anyway, at the time here is what one muslim leader said...

from here (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114)

""If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

He said women were "weapons" used by "Satan" to control men.

"It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa)."
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Thank you for all of this. Now I can tell you what you're jealous of. You're an airhead trying to be smart. Smart chicks get your green eyed monster out. BtW, all that crap you've written is just that; crap. No knowledge of Islam whatsoever. Tsk tsk tsk.
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now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
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Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
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* not that is anything wrong with beeing a virgin at 25 or any age, mind you! just paired with this unhealthy view of man as Aqua09 and her female part of family think of man is repressed...
at the risk of being called islamaphobic, it is not an unknown belief amongst certain circles in islam.

having brushed the outskirts of the religion in my upbringing, i heard it there as well.

in australia, about a decade ago, there were several horrific rapes committed by a gang of young lebanese boys who specifically targeted young white australian girls. it resulted in terrible rioting and lots of damage between muslim and non-muslim relations in the country.

anyway, at the time here is what one muslim leader said...

from here (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114)

""If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

He said women were "weapons" used by "Satan" to control men.

"It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa)."
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At best you're a fine example of the dumbasses that media manipulates so easily into believing what they want you to believe. No critical thinking skills whatsoever. No research/initiative taken on your own to learn. Embarrassment to a libra, which is said to be intellectual.
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* not that is anything wrong with beeing a virgin at 25 or any age, mind you! just paired with this unhealthy view of man as Aqua09 and her female part of family think of man is repressed...
at the risk of being called islamaphobic, it is not an unknown belief amongst certain circles in islam.

having brushed the outskirts of the religion in my upbringing, i heard it there as well.

in australia, about a decade ago, there were several horrific rapes committed by a gang of young lebanese boys who specifically targeted young white australian girls. it resulted in terrible rioting and lots of damage between muslim and non-muslim relations in the country.

anyway, at the time here is what one muslim leader said...

from here (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114)

""If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

He said women were "weapons" used by "Satan" to control men.

"It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa)."
Thank you for all of this. Now I can tell you what you're jealous of. You're an airhead trying to be smart. Smart chicks get your green eyed monster out. BtW, all that crap you've written is just that; crap. No knowledge of Islam whatsoever. Tsk tsk tsk.
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you deny he said it?

all i see are a lot of personal attacks on me of which you have no knowledge to base it on. the thing is he did say it. it is part of the culture. you don't know what my background is, my level of education or iq. if you read what i said there was a lot of wiggle room in there but you went for the personal attack before even attempting to present a logical, valid argument why this not the case.

but yeah, i'm jealous...of you...because you are soooooo smart. way to go sherlock.
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now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
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Aqua09, it is not funny, believe me, we dont find this funny at all and you shouldnt as well...... I am ignorant of all these things, what is involved in beeing normal in your culture..... but you are an aqua, please, let the things in..... neither me or jeane mean to do harm..... just try to understand, that it is not that easy for us to understand this.... please, dont get offended and dont be desperate - if you try (you are on dxp after all! ) it mean you are interested in other peoples views, like any Aqua would be.....

regardless of faith or religion, not all the man are pigs, believe us..... sending hugs and kisses (from a fellow aqua)
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* not that is anything wrong with beeing a virgin at 25 or any age, mind you! just paired with this unhealthy view of man as Aqua09 and her female part of family think of man is repressed...
at the risk of being called islamaphobic, it is not an unknown belief amongst certain circles in islam.

having brushed the outskirts of the religion in my upbringing, i heard it there as well.

in australia, about a decade ago, there were several horrific rapes committed by a gang of young lebanese boys who specifically targeted young white australian girls. it resulted in terrible rioting and lots of damage between muslim and non-muslim relations in the country.

anyway, at the time here is what one muslim leader said...

from here (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/muslim-leader-blames-women-for-sex-attacks/story-e6frg6nf-1111112419114)

""If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?

"The uncovered meat is the problem."

The sheik then said: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

He said women were "weapons" used by "Satan" to control men.

"It is said in the state of zina (adultery), the responsibility falls 90 per cent of the time on the woman. Why? Because she possesses the weapon of enticement (igraa)."
Thank you for all of this. Now I can tell you what you're jealous of. You're an airhead trying to be smart. Smart chicks get your green eyed monster out. BtW, all that crap you've written is just that; crap. No knowledge of Islam whatsoever. Tsk tsk tsk.
you deny he said it?
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You have to come at me with actual knowledge of Islam, not what your airhead picked up from media or what some delusional sheikh said, because he shared his PERSONAL view on the matter. Just like my aunt shared her PERSONAL view on the matter. My aunt's point of the comment went over your head but her viewpoint wasn't based in culture or religion. Her comment had nothing to do with either. I don't know how you made that about religion and culture.
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Posted by jeane
now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
Aqua09, it is not funny, believe me, we dont find this funny at all and you shouldnt as well...... I am ignorant of all these things, what is involved in beeing normal in your culture..... but you are an aqua, please, let the things in..... neither me or jeane mean to do harm..... just try to understand, that it is not that easy for us to understand this.... please, dont get offended and dont be desperate - if you try (you are on dxp after all! ) it mean you are interested in other peoples views, like any Aqua would be.....

regardless of faith or religion, not all the man are pigs, believe us..... sending hugs and kisses (from a fellow aqua)
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I'm not taking this personal at all. If I were, I'd actually educate both of you. The mere fact I don't care to shows I don't care. I'm allergic to ignorance and dumbness and you and Jeane just showcased a lot of dumbness going off your assumptions. You made my aunt's comment or my viewpoint about culture and religion, which shows your ignorance. If I actually told you how unrelated it is to culture and religion you'd feel stupid. I find you embarrassing for an aqua. I will not accept hugs from someone im allergic to.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.

see, that is the difference between you and me - if i don't know enough to substantiate a claim i won't say it but you call me jealous, stupid and what was the other one? ah yes, an attention whore based on little else besides a different opinion to yours.
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You have to come at me with actual knowledge of Islam, not what your airhead picked up from media or what some delusional sheikh said, because he shared his PERSONAL view on the matter. Just like my aunt shared her PERSONAL view on the matter. My aunt's point of the comment went over your head but her viewpoint wasn't based in culture or religion. Her comment had nothing to do with either. I don't know how you made that about religion and culture.
ok, ok, your aunt's comment wasn't formed by her religion or culture, she is just plain ignorant.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.

see, that is the difference between you and me - if i don't know enough to substantiate a claim i won't say it but you call me jealous, stupid and what was the other one? ah yes, an attention whore based on little else besides a different opinion to yours.
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But you are stupid and that can be seen in what you came back with. You came with a sheikh's personal opinion to represent what Islam says about the matter. Aww, still holding a grudge over being called an atrentionwhore. I knew it! Your catty comments were coming from somewhere. You enjoy sexual innuendos at work from random guys and found something wrong with me taking an offence, hence you are the atrentionwhore.
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You have to come at me with actual knowledge of Islam, not what your airhead picked up from media or what some delusional sheikh said, because he shared his PERSONAL view on the matter. Just like my aunt shared her PERSONAL view on the matter. My aunt's point of the comment went over your head but her viewpoint wasn't based in culture or religion. Her comment had nothing to do with either. I don't know how you made that about religion and culture.
ok, ok, your aunt's comment wasn't formed by her religion or culture, she is just plain ignorant.
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Calling my aunt ignorant now. Look who is calling names now. I have no problem with you calling me or even her names but make sure you don't cry about it when I do it to you 😉 hypocrisy is never a good look.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.

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Oh, but you don't know about Islam either yet you came with that Sheikh's example to speak about Islam and its views on women/sex. You opened your mouth on that so I wouldn't be surprised if I see you opening your mouth on IsIS and Islam somewhere down the line.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.

see, that is the difference between you and me - if i don't know enough to substantiate a claim i won't say it but you call me jealous, stupid and what was the other one? ah yes, an attention whore based on little else besides a different opinion to yours.
But you are stupid and that can be seen in what you came back with. You came with a sheikh's personal opinion to represent what Islam says about the matter. Aww, still holding a grudge over being called an atrentionwhore. I knew it! Your catty comments were coming from somewhere. You enjoy sexual innuendos at work from random guys and found something wrong with me taking an offence, hence you are the atrentionwhore.
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i came back with an example that substantiates what i personally have been told and witnessed in my life.

i brought up attention whore because you have along history of calling me names when an argument fails you.
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You have to come at me with actual knowledge of Islam, not what your airhead picked up from media or what some delusional sheikh said, because he shared his PERSONAL view on the matter. Just like my aunt shared her PERSONAL view on the matter. My aunt's point of the comment went over your head but her viewpoint wasn't based in culture or religion. Her comment had nothing to do with either. I don't know how you made that about religion and culture.
ok, ok, your aunt's comment wasn't formed by her religion or culture, she is just plain ignorant.
Calling my aunt ignorant now. Look who is calling names now. I have no problem with you calling me or even her names but make sure you don't cry about it when I do it to you 😉 hypocrisy is never a good look.
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not a name, a claim. if her opinions are not based on culture, or religion (and i don't see why not as most people's opinions are formed that way) and she has little empirical proof to substantiate her accusation (i'm guessing she is not an preeminent sociologist in the field of gender studies - but i could be wrong) and as we have anecdotal evidence from men in the forum to attest that this isn't the case then the conclusion i've reached is she is ignorant.

using the dictionary definition

ignorant
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Line breaks: ig¦nor|ant
Pronunciation: /ˈɪɡn(ə)r(ə)nt/
Definition of ignorant in English:
adjective

1.1 Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular:

now if she is a highly recognised expert in this field i'd be very happy to read her studies.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.

see, that is the difference between you and me - if i don't know enough to substantiate a claim i won't say it but you call me jealous, stupid and what was the other one? ah yes, an attention whore based on little else besides a different opinion to yours.
But you are stupid and that can be seen in what you came back with. You came with a sheikh's personal opinion to represent what Islam says about the matter. Aww, still holding a grudge over being called an atrentionwhore. I knew it! Your catty comments were coming from somewhere. You enjoy sexual innuendos at work from random guys and found something wrong with me taking an offence, hence you are the atrentionwhore.
i came back with an example that substantiates what i personally have been told and witnessed in my life.

i brought up attention whore because you have along history of calling me names when an argument fails you.
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You remember things which you tend to take out of context shows grudge holding. My God, I don't remember half the things people say to me. You do, sign of grudge holding. Secondly, I wasn't making an argument in that post. I was venting. You found nothing wrong with it and thought I was blowing things out of proportion and that I should just laugh it off. That was utterly atrentionwhore like and I said it how I found it. Don't be butthurt if I don't approve of your atrentionwhorish take on sexual innuendos from co workers.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.


Oh, but you don't know about Islam either yet you came with that Sheikh's example to speak about Islam and its views on women/sex. You opened your mouth on that so I wouldn't be surprised if I see you opening your mouth on IsIS and Islam somewhere down the line.
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no, i know a little about islam (enough to be dangerous 😉) but i don't know much about isis, their tenets and beliefs.

and anyway, i said it was cultural, not religious.
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now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
Aqua09, it is not funny, believe me, we dont find this funny at all and you shouldnt as well...... I am ignorant of all these things, what is involved in beeing normal in your culture..... but you are an aqua, please, let the things in..... neither me or jeane mean to do harm..... just try to understand, that it is not that easy for us to understand this.... please, dont get offended and dont be desperate - if you try (you are on dxp after all! ) it mean you are interested in other peoples views, like any Aqua would be.....

regardless of faith or religion, not all the man are pigs, believe us..... sending hugs and kisses (from a fellow aqua)
I'm not taking this personal at all. If I were, I'd actually educate both of you. The mere fact I don't care to shows I don't care. I'm allergic to ignorance and dumbness and you and Jeane just showcased a lot of dumbness going off your assumptions. You made my aunt's comment or my viewpoint about culture and religion, which shows your ignorance. If I actually told you how unrelated it is to culture and religion you'd feel stupid. I find you embarrassing for an aqua. I will not accept hugs from someone im allergic to.
Lol, I can see already denying right there. you were total attacking on someone and quite defensive. That is taking personal for an huge ego.
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That's great! Think whatever you want. You promoting dumb behaviour speaks volumes.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.


Oh, but you don't know about Islam either yet you came with that Sheikh's example to speak about Islam and its views on women/sex. You opened your mouth on that so I wouldn't be surprised if I see you opening your mouth on IsIS and Islam somewhere down the line.
no, i know a little about islam (enough to be dangerous 😉) but i don't know much about isis, their tenets and beliefs.

and anyway, i said it was cultural, not religious.
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Pfft. Yeah right. Be it cultural or religious, you assumed all the way.
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You remember things which you tend to take out of context shows grudge holding. My God, I don't remember half the things people say to me. You do, sign of grudge holding. Secondly, I wasn't making an argument in that post. I was venting. You found nothing wrong with it and thought I was blowing things out of proportion and that I should just laugh it off. That was utterly atrentionwhore like and I said it how I found it. Don't be butthurt if I don't approve of your atrentionwhorish take on sexual innuendos from co workers.
do you know what attention whore means? sorry, is english not your first language? i didn't realise.
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I'm laughing at the example you used to describe Islam or even what it stands for or how it views women/sex. So lemme guess you believe ISIS represents Islam and its tenets?
i don't know enough about isis to make that claim.


Oh, but you don't know about Islam either yet you came with that Sheikh's example to speak about Islam and its views on women/sex. You opened your mouth on that so I wouldn't be surprised if I see you opening your mouth on IsIS and Islam somewhere down the line.
no, i know a little about islam (enough to be dangerous 😉) but i don't know much about isis, their tenets and beliefs.

and anyway, i said it was cultural, not religious.
Pfft. Yeah right. Be it cultural or religious, you assumed all the way.
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hmmm, no. i don't think i did.
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You have to come at me with actual knowledge of Islam, not what your airhead picked up from media or what some delusional sheikh said, because he shared his PERSONAL view on the matter. Just like my aunt shared her PERSONAL view on the matter. My aunt's point of the comment went over your head but her viewpoint wasn't based in culture or religion. Her comment had nothing to do with either. I don't know how you made that about religion and culture.
ok, ok, your aunt's comment wasn't formed by her religion or culture, she is just plain ignorant.
Calling my aunt ignorant now. Look who is calling names now. I have no problem with you calling me or even her names but make sure you don't cry about it when I do it to you 😉 hypocrisy is never a good look.
not a name, a claim. if her opinions are not based on culture, or religion (and i don't see why not as most people's opinions are formed that way) and she has little empirical proof to substantiate her accusation (i'm guessing she is not an preeminent sociologist in the field of gender studies - but i could be wrong) and as we have anecdotal evidence from men in the forum to attest that this isn't the case then the conclusion i've reached is she is ignorant.

using the dictionary definition

ignorant
See definition in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
Line breaks: ig¦nor|ant
Pronunciation: /ˈɪɡn(ə)r(ə)nt/
Definition of ignorant in English:
adjective

1.1 Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular:

no if she is a highly recognised expert in this field i'd be very happy to read her studies.
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Oh Jeane, I'm gonna simplify some shit for you. Considering men to be cheaters or prone to cheating is not a matter of being ignorant or not. It's a perception. It can be a good perception or bad one. Her perception is based on her experiences. My aunt is married to a Taurus man(which is the irony) and he cheated on her his entire life. Kept a diary and wrote all about his conquests. She found the diary very late in their marriage and caught him red handed too. The point is simple. People make comments about a gender's propensity for something based on their experiences. Her thinking that men are cheaters is her experience or what she has seen her friend's husbands doing as well. It doesn't make her ignorant for thinking that. This is not a matter of ignorance because it doesn't require any knowledge.
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now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
Aqua09, it is not funny, believe me, we dont find this funny at all and you shouldnt as well...... I am ignorant of all these things, what is involved in beeing normal in your culture..... but you are an aqua, please, let the things in..... neither me or jeane mean to do harm..... just try to understand, that it is not that easy for us to understand this.... please, dont get offended and dont be desperate - if you try (you are on dxp after all! ) it mean you are interested in other peoples views, like any Aqua would be.....

regardless of faith or religion, not all the man are pigs, believe us..... sending hugs and kisses (from a fellow aqua)
I'm not taking this personal at all. If I were, I'd actually educate both of you. The mere fact I don't care to shows I don't care. I'm allergic to ignorance and dumbness and you and Jeane just showcased a lot of dumbness going off your assumptions. You made my aunt's comment or my viewpoint about culture and religion, which shows your ignorance. If I actually told you how unrelated it is to culture and religion you'd feel stupid. I find you embarrassing for an aqua. I will not accept hugs from someone im allergic to.
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just one person, who i normal, can make a difference, believe me....... I am from Europe and I am happy not to share your views, and I could be worried to meet views like yours after the last half year situation, you know....... but I wish you to be more human, not attacking, just share wisdom, you know? Maybe if more of you would think normally, we would not be so afraid to receive you? If you believe, all man are pigs, I hope you never come to Europe 🙂 🙂
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You remember things which you tend to take out of context shows grudge holding. My God, I don't remember half the things people say to me. You do, sign of grudge holding. Secondly, I wasn't making an argument in that post. I was venting. You found nothing wrong with it and thought I was blowing things out of proportion and that I should just laugh it off. That was utterly atrentionwhore like and I said it how I found it. Don't be butthurt if I don't approve of your atrentionwhorish take on sexual innuendos from co workers.
do you know what attention whore means? sorry, is english not your first language? i didn't realise.
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You clearly don't. The best part is that someone with poor writing skills is asking me that question.
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Posted by aquarius09
Posted by Pandora101
Posted by jeane
now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
Aqua09, it is not funny, believe me, we dont find this funny at all and you shouldnt as well...... I am ignorant of all these things, what is involved in beeing normal in your culture..... but you are an aqua, please, let the things in..... neither me or jeane mean to do harm..... just try to understand, that it is not that easy for us to understand this.... please, dont get offended and dont be desperate - if you try (you are on dxp after all! ) it mean you are interested in other peoples views, like any Aqua would be.....

regardless of faith or religion, not all the man are pigs, believe us..... sending hugs and kisses (from a fellow aqua)
I'm not taking this personal at all. If I were, I'd actually educate both of you. The mere fact I don't care to shows I don't care. I'm allergic to ignorance and dumbness and you and Jeane just showcased a lot of dumbness going off your assumptions. You made my aunt's comment or my viewpoint about culture and religion, which shows your ignorance. If I actually told you how unrelated it is to culture and religion you'd feel stupid. I find you embarrassing for an aqua. I will not accept hugs from someone im allergic to.
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just one person, who i normal, can make a difference, believe me....... I am from Europe and I am happy not to share your views, and I could be worried to meet views like yours after the last half year situation, you know....... but I wish you to be more human, not attacking, just share wisdom, you know? Maybe if more of you would think normally, we would not be so afraid to receive you? If you believe, all man are pigs, I hope you never come to Europe 🙂 🙂
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Oh Jeane, I'm gonna simplify some shit for you. Considering men to be cheaters or prone to cheating is not a matter of being ignorant or not. It's a perception. It can be a good perception or bad one. Her perception is based on her experiences. My aunt is married to a Taurus man(which is the irony) and he cheated on her his entire life. Kept a diary and wrote all about his conquests. She found the diary very late in their marriage and caught him red handed too. The point is simple. People make comments about a gender's propensity for something based on their experiences. Her thinking that men are cheaters is her experience or what she has seen her friend's husbands doing as well. It doesn't make her ignorant for thinking that. This is not a matter of ignorance because it doesn't require any knowledge.
men cheat. women cheat. where you went wrong was when you said "it doesn't take a lot to make a man cheat on his wife/gf. as my aunt said etc etc etc"

it may not have taken your uncle a lot to cheat (or maybe it did, who knows) and again based on his age, his relationship with your aunt, his upbringing or any number of variables you cannot then tar a whole gender with the same brush to make sweeping and somewhat offensive statements.

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You remember things which you tend to take out of context shows grudge holding. My God, I don't remember half the things people say to me. You do, sign of grudge holding. Secondly, I wasn't making an argument in that post. I was venting. You found nothing wrong with it and thought I was blowing things out of proportion and that I should just laugh it off. That was utterly atrentionwhore like and I said it how I found it. Don't be butthurt if I don't approve of your atrentionwhorish take on sexual innuendos from co workers.
do you know what attention whore means? sorry, is english not your first language? i didn't realise.
You clearly don't. The best part is that someone with poor writing skills is asking me that question.
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is that yes? or no?
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Oh Jeane, I'm gonna simplify some shit for you. Considering men to be cheaters or prone to cheating is not a matter of being ignorant or not. It's a perception. It can be a good perception or bad one. Her perception is based on her experiences. My aunt is married to a Taurus man(which is the irony) and he cheated on her his entire life. Kept a diary and wrote all about his conquests. She found the diary very late in their marriage and caught him red handed too. The point is simple. People make comments about a gender's propensity for something based on their experiences. Her thinking that men are cheaters is her experience or what she has seen her friend's husbands doing as well. It doesn't make her ignorant for thinking that. This is not a matter of ignorance because it doesn't require any knowledge.
men cheat. women cheat. where you went wrong was when you said "it doesn't take a lot to make a man cheat on his wife/gf. as my aunt said etc etc etc"

it may not have taken your uncle a lot to cheat (or maybe it did, who knows) and again based on his age, his relationship with your aunt, his upbringing or any number of variables you cannot then tar a whole gender with the same brush to make sweeping and somewhat offensive statements.

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It's an opinion and if you can't shallow it then you need a thicker skin or get off dxp. You took that comment pretty badly and started to ASSUme that it must be because of culture or religion. Which is where I got allergic to you and your response. You already know I'm intolerant of idiotic responses and people. If you still so butthurt over my calling you attentionwhore then keep your ignorance to yourself and don't irritate me by responding to my posts. Because then I rightfully call you over the dumb shit you say and you whine about how I'm resorting to name calling. Whereas if u just kept your dumb comments to yourself, you wouldn't have irritated me. I don't like my comments being taken out of context or people assuming nonsense.
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Posted by jeane
now, i'm not saying that aqua09 thinks that women who don't wear a hijab deserve to be raped or anything like that but you can see how her aunt's take is a lesser version of this.
I know what you mean, it is common in Europe as well (the rapist attacks and blaming woman in certain communities), but can you imagine what can Aqua09 suffer, if she is really a part of this community? we dont know, just assuming, but if she is a real aquarius, she must suffer from this crazy views, know what I mean?
Exactly! You don't know. You're just assuming and making a total ass of yourself along with Jeane. This is actually really funny to me.
Aqua09, it is not funny, believe me, we dont find this funny at all and you shouldnt as well...... I am ignorant of all these things, what is involved in beeing normal in your culture..... but you are an aqua, please, let the things in..... neither me or jeane mean to do harm..... just try to understand, that it is not that easy for us to understand this.... please, dont get offended and dont be desperate - if you try (you are on dxp after all! ) it mean you are interested in other peoples views, like any Aqua would be.....

regardless of faith or religion, not all the man are pigs, believe us..... sending hugs and kisses (from a fellow aqua)
I'm not taking this personal at all. If I were, I'd actually educate both of you. The mere fact I don't care to shows I don't care. I'm allergic to ignorance and dumbness and you and Jeane just showcased a lot of dumbness going off your assumptions. You made my aunt's comment or my viewpoint about culture and religion, which shows your ignorance. If I actually told you how unrelated it is to culture and religion you'd feel stupid. I find you embarrassing for an aqua. I will not accept hugs from someone im allergic to.
Lol, I can see already denying right there. you were total attacking on someone and quite defensive. That is taking personal for an huge ego.
That's great! Think whatever you want. You promoting dumb behaviour speaks volumes.
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😕 Uuuuummm
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@infinite8That's not promoting dumb behaviour. That's my personal Opinion. You don't have to believe it. LOL and you most certainly don't need to get butthurt over it. I didn't say your man will cheat on you. Lol
Butthurt?!?! You can believe what you wish.

I'm just saying that you are not making your point and you are contradicting yourself. You are also taking everything personal. Jeane is debating pretty strongly, but your rebuttals are coming off as immature and they are lacking real substance. Just a whole lot of name calling. It's numbing really... Snooze
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LOL @ Jeane debating pretty strongly. Yeah, snoozing on that.
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Ignorant European at its finest! Go pick up a book and read rather than asking a dxper to educate you or forming your views on a race/religion based on your interaction with an online person. Imagine if I started perceiving Europeans based on the way you portrayed yourself. That would be pretty sad and my trip to Italy would be cancelled.
Im just asking you to act normal....... I understand, you are frustrated, but your behaviour is not helping, you know? not helping to understand that there can be some human opinions regardless of faith? I tried to be civil after your attacks and I am still beeing civil........ just calm down, will you? this is not how to solve problems, both sides have to be civil and have some humanity, not just attacking....... you know, you are representing some community or/and religion, and it would be more helpful for us others to understand, if you would not act so agressive....... sorry