male taurus strange behavior

i am obsessed w this taurus guy i met back in august.

we matched on a dating app and he asked for my snapchat.

i was so in awe of how hot this guy is, i call him the hottest guy i've ever dated. he's over 6ft tall, has long dirty blonde hair, quirky teeth/super cute smile, skates and surfs, his energy is just magnetic. he's like a ball of sunshine.

he was dragging his feet on asking me out in august so i asked someting along the lines of "when are you gonna ask me out already?"

he gave me some weird excuse and i brushed it off, i don't take dating apps too seriously.

then the next day he's like i'll drive to you and take you out. so he did. he was even more attractive in person and it seemed like he was super into me (body language wise)

it was fun / chill...i felt pretty comfortable with him. when we got in the uber to the next location he immediately started kissing me and all this cute stuff, which normally, i'm not into.

then we get to the spot and are talking / chatting about our travels and fun stories.

me and this random passerby guy looked at eachother, i stare at everyone, so no big deal to me.

the taurus guy looked at us both and physically moved my chair closer to him and glared at the other guy.

i thought it was cute.

it was a nice/chill time, we are both goofy so i thought it went well.

so the next few days on snapchat were weird. he would watch al of my stories right away and started asking me stuff like "are you hanging out with another guy?" and all this unecessary jealous stuff...

i was like no what are you even talking about? and then he ignored me.

i asked him when we are going to hang out again and again he came up with the lame excuses, so i brushed it off.

however, he kept watching my snapchat stories and this got on my nerves and so i deleted him.

we got into an argument and it was awkward so i just tried to drop it because his behavior isn't logical to me. he's giving me excuses yet he wants to get jealous over nothing?

ok.

anyway in october i was going to another festival and i remember him telling me he was going, so i texted him like hey are you at this festival? he texted back right away and was like yeah i am! where are you?

we were supposed to meet up.

BUT THE UNIVERSE/MY PHONE SERVICE blocked me.

i left the area right after the festival and was sad i didn't hear back from the taurus. yet when i got home and smoked, i got a flood of texts from the taurus. saying "hey i'm at this location. where are you—"

i was so surprised and told him that i was sorry and just got home and my phone just delivered the messages.

he was like come to this beach and i was like YES!! i would love to but I just smoked (aka i can't drive) and told him i would hit him up later that week.

he ignored me after that.

i gave up yet again.

then a few weeks after that, one day when i'm hibernating, dead asleep, i get a text message saying "hey i'm by your house, what are you doing?"

i was shocked.

but i was asleep, so i didn't wake up and respond until hours later.

i was so sad!!!

i confronted him via text, like hey what's up? what's going on with us?

he proceeds to tell me he's still on and off with some girl for 2 years and is "unavailable" and is back to ignoring me again....

i tried to stand my ground and wish him goodluck with everything, then backtracked and told him i just wanted to be friends because he's one of the first people i met in this city.

he's still ignoring me.

normally, this is stupid and i would drop it, but i really admire him and am putting up with this for now.

any ladies experience something similar? any taurus men have any advice/input?

Maybe things between you is dragging to him.

Boredom. So he goes n hangs out with someone else

Posted by DMV
Maybe things between you is dragging to him.

Boredom. So he goes n hangs out with someone else

What do you mean? I'm not sure how to move forward.

Posted by creed74
girls with Taurus moons always liked me...one a leo another a virgo. what do you feel about us?

and i dont really have advice ive been in anothe similar thing with a libra and i just stopped talking to her for weeks then hit her up and talked/texted for a few days then stopped again but i think the main reason was i felt like she wasnt a good match for me because she didnt understand to look beneath the surface when talking to me maybe that helps.

I have another taurus ex who will not let me go. I don't really understand his reasoning, but he won't let me go and always tries to find a way to pop up into my life. He's nice and polite. He is nothing like the other taurus that I am hooked on. I really like the guy I posted a topic about because 1)he's super attractive 2)i felt very comfortable talking to him 3)love his sense of humor and airheaded demeanor... seems very laidback

The last text conversation we had before he told me about his ex being in the picture was him telling me how depressed he was and lonely.. I thought it was extremely bizarre. I wanted to ask him more but I didn't want to press him or feel like I was being intrusive. Do you taurus guys like it when girls are more intrusive?

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Maybe things between you is dragging to him.

Boredom. So he goes n hangs out with someone else

What do you mean? I'm not sure how to move forward.

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When he calls be more available.

He probably gets bored by the pace of your dating.

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girls with Taurus moons always liked me...one a leo another a virgo. what do you feel about us?

and i dont really have advice ive been in anothe similar thing with a libra and i just stopped talking to her for weeks then hit her up and talked/texted for a few days then stopped again but i think the main reason was i felt like she wasnt a good match for me because she didnt understand to look beneath the surface when talking to me maybe that helps.

I have another taurus ex who will not let me go. I don't really understand his reasoning, but he won't let me go and always tries to find a way to pop up into my life. He's nice and polite. He is nothing like the other taurus that I am hooked on. I really like the guy I posted a topic about because 1)he's super attractive 2)i felt very comfortable talking to him 3)love his sense of humor and airheaded demeanor... seems very laidback

The last text conversation we had before he told me about his ex being in the picture was him telling me how depressed he was and lonely.. I thought it was extremely bizarre. I wanted to ask him more but I didn't want to press him or feel like I was being intrusive. Do you taurus guys like it when girls are more intrusive?

see what im saying he told you he was depressed and lonley and you said it was bizarre? taurus are very ''there'' air signs are aloof he might see as you dont understand him so that might be why he is going back and forth insted of going alll the way

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I've never thought of this possibility before. He's mentioned this to me several times about how is stuck in a rut and feeling sad. I would love to help him / be there for him, but I'm not sure how to? I've tried to cheer him up before by offering to take him out to do something fun but he just gives me an excuse so I've stopped trying. What should I do now?

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Posted by DMV
Maybe things between you is dragging to him.

Boredom. So he goes n hangs out with someone else

What do you mean? I'm not sure how to move forward.

When he calls be more available.

He probably gets bored by the pace of your dating.

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I can do that. It's just weird because something always gets in the way of us hanging out. I was so excited to see him both times but for whatever reason I haven't been able to see him again.

Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

Posted by creed74
do u know his moon sign

no i don't. :/

No, I hate when anyone tries to pry information out of me. I don't know if that's a Taurus thing, though.

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

Posted by Bricks195
No, I hate when anyone tries to pry information out of me. I don't know if that's a Taurus thing, though.

I'm the same way. So I figured he will open up to me if he wants me to know something. For now all I know is that he's depressed, stuck in a rut, stuck with some girl on and off for 2 years, and lays around at home all day because he's sad.

I'm still stuck on the jealousy thing.

Sad, lonely, depressed, etc., not sure if you should feel bad or keep your distance. He's this great looking guy who's lonely and depressed and has a troubling jealous streak.

Something might be going on upstairs with him. Don't ghost him or anything, but maybe you should keep things as casual as possible and don't spend much one-on-one time with him until you figure this out.

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I'm still stuck on the jealousy thing.

Sad, lonely, depressed, etc., not sure if you should feel bad or keep your distance. He's this great looking guy who's lonely and depressed and has a troubling jealous streak.

Something might be going on upstairs with him. Don't ghost him or anything, but maybe you should keep things as casual as possible and don't spend much one-on-one time with him until you figure this out.

Yeah maybe... It was a little strange to hear this, seeing as how in person he's pretty happy go lucky and laidback like me.

He's ignoring me at the moment.

But a few weeks ago he just showed up around my house, I was asleep so I wasn't able to hang out with him.

I just sent him a fb friend request to try to talk to him again, but I will keep all this advice in mind. Such as be more available and ask him more in-depth questions.

Our ego can get in the way so when this happens you both need to talk and come up with a mutual respectful and honest chat.

Don't ever play games where I'll try to make a Taurus or anyone else jealous. It will back fire. And then we get stubborn.

He is a bit fast but if you can handle it go with the flow, but don't put out right away. Just be friends, get to know each other, ask him if he is seeing someone, ask him questions about his life.

I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

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I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

Yeah I'm not really sure what else to do because to me the male should be the aggressor, he just seems to be coming and going as he pleases and doesn't give me a heads up or anything

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I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

Yeah I'm not really sure what else to do because to me the male should be the aggressor, he just seems to be coming and going as he pleases and doesn't give me a heads up or anything

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yeah, I would just say. Lets make a date to do something soon. Next time he sees interested? But I could see how him coming and going as he pleases and on his own terms is kind of flakey. Sounds like you guys need set meet up times.

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I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

Yeah I'm not really sure what else to do because to me the male should be the aggressor, he just seems to be coming and going as he pleases and doesn't give me a heads up or anything

yeah, I would just say. Lets make a date to do something soon. Next time he sees interested? But I could see how him coming and going as he pleases and on his own terms is kind of flakey. Sounds like you guys need set meet up times.

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I've tried this before, in august. I suggested so many things for us to do and he would be like "my work schedule is crazy right now" or "I'm too depressed to leave my house" and would not give in to anything I suggested so I gave up.

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I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

Yeah I'm not really sure what else to do because to me the male should be the aggressor, he just seems to be coming and going as he pleases and doesn't give me a heads up or anything

yeah, I would just say. Lets make a date to do something soon. Next time he sees interested? But I could see how him coming and going as he pleases and on his own terms is kind of flakey. Sounds like you guys need set meet up times.

I've tried this before, in august. I suggested so many things for us to do and he would be like "my work schedule is crazy right now" or "I'm too depressed to leave my house" and would not give in to anything I suggested so I gave up.

U are an aqua? I suggest you go your separate ways. It will end the same way with your Taurus ex...

Aqua energy and Taurus energy is like oil and Water... They don't mix... But you already know that aa your ex is a Taurus

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but her moon is in Taurus, so shes not all aqua :/ its the sun/moon balance

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I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

Yeah I'm not really sure what else to do because to me the male should be the aggressor, he just seems to be coming and going as he pleases and doesn't give me a heads up or anything

yeah, I would just say. Lets make a date to do something soon. Next time he sees interested? But I could see how him coming and going as he pleases and on his own terms is kind of flakey. Sounds like you guys need set meet up times.

I've tried this before, in august. I suggested so many things for us to do and he would be like "my work schedule is crazy right now" or "I'm too depressed to leave my house" and would not give in to anything I suggested so I gave up.

U are an aqua? I suggest you go your separate ways. It will end the same way with your Taurus ex...

Aqua energy and Taurus energy is like oil and Water... They don't mix... But you already know that aa your ex is a Taurus

but her moon is in Taurus, so shes not all aqua :/ its the sun/moon balance

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My Venus is in cap so I also hate chasing men and am not used to being aggressive...

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I dont think youre being aggressive enough. If you want it to work, try harder!! I know that could be difficult because you dont want to look craycray. But sounds like this is dragging out. Buuut you also dont want to be in competition with another girl who hes apparently on and off with. That could be scary. So really I dont know. :/

Yeah I'm not really sure what else to do because to me the male should be the aggressor, he just seems to be coming and going as he pleases and doesn't give me a heads up or anything

yeah, I would just say. Lets make a date to do something soon. Next time he sees interested? But I could see how him coming and going as he pleases and on his own terms is kind of flakey. Sounds like you guys need set meet up times.

I've tried this before, in august. I suggested so many things for us to do and he would be like "my work schedule is crazy right now" or "I'm too depressed to leave my house" and would not give in to anything I suggested so I gave up.

U are an aqua? I suggest you go your separate ways. It will end the same way with your Taurus ex...

Aqua energy and Taurus energy is like oil and Water... They don't mix... But you already know that aa your ex is a Taurus

but her moon is in Taurus, so shes not all aqua :/ its the sun/moon balance

My Venus is in cap so I also hate chasing men and am not used to being aggressive...

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haha makes sense.. its that cappy pride. my venus is in needy cancer so i cant even help myself.

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Maybe things between you is dragging to him.

Boredom. So he goes n hangs out with someone else

What do you mean? I'm not sure how to move forward.

When he calls be more available.

He probably gets bored by the pace of your dating.

I can do that. It's just weird because something always gets in the way of us hanging out. I was so excited to see him both times but for whatever reason I haven't been able to see him again.

DMV is correct.... I would also be bored by now. He seems like a Taurus with a lot of fire and air which makes him energetic and Spontaneous and you sound slow and somewhat dull. If he finds you can't keep up with him he'll be off to other pastures. Taurus male will turn up outside your house unannounced and you have to be prepared (not asleep!!!)....

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You're incredibly rude, please gtfo.

to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

Posted by jeane
to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

It's also like the being jealous and coming up with lame excuses as to why he can't hang out TOTALLY conflict... I'm just over here learning how to feel.

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to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

rouse as in he just said that to get a reaction out of me?

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to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

rouse as in he just said that to get a reaction out of me?

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Sorry no I meant made up.

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to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

It's also like the being jealous and coming up with lame excuses as to why he can't hang out TOTALLY conflict... I'm just over here learning how to feel.

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Jealousy, i wouldnt put too much stock in. It's not so much about you but about posturing in front of other guys.

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to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

It's also like the being jealous and coming up with lame excuses as to why he can't hang out TOTALLY conflict... I'm just over here learning how to feel.

Jealousy, i wouldnt put too much stock in. It's not so much about you but about posturing in front of other guys.

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Oh he didn't say anything about the jealously until he was replying to my stories on Snapchat. It was weird and random. Especially because I don't usually post other people in my stories, I do a lot of stuff alone!

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Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

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I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

OP, I don't think he was posturing for other guys when he was questioning you about Snapchat. I continue to think jealousy is a big problem with this guy.

May explain why he's cool and laid-back and handsome and lonely and single. May have been too much for other girls.

Posted by Bricks195
OP, I don't think he was posturing for other guys when he was questioning you about Snapchat. I continue to think jealousy is a big problem with this guy.

May explain why he's cool and laid-back and handsome and lonely and single. May have been too much for other girls.

Great question. Once he stops ignoring me I'll have to find out the answer ? I'm just really tempted to block him right now.

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to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

It's also like the being jealous and coming up with lame excuses as to why he can't hang out TOTALLY conflict... I'm just over here learning how to feel.

Jealousy, i wouldnt put too much stock in. It's not so much about you but about posturing in front of other guys.

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You really think he would make someone up to piss me off? That's a whole new level of petty, I aspire to be.

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

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I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I mean I will also do what the other users suggested about actively listening and asking him questions and dropping everything when asks me to hang out again.

Posted by Seraphlight
A guy like this would be too much for me. If you seem in a different league to me though. My countries dating game is less sophisticated and i am a bloody girl guide.

I'd be out of my depth dealing with guys like this.

Yeah American boys can be difficult!! Or maybe it's because we are in our mid 20s. He's the stereotypical California surfer guy ?

Posted by 4ever_confused
i was so in awe of how hot this guy is, i call him the hottest guy i've ever dated.

he was dragging his feet on asking me out in august so i asked someting along the lines of "when are you gonna ask me out already?"

he gave me some weird excuse and i brushed it off,

i asked him when we are going to hang out again and again he came up with the lame excuses, so i brushed it off.

i ...told him i just wanted to be friends because he's one of the first people i met in this city.

he's still ignoring me.

Of course he's ignoring you!! You met him on a dating site, why would he want to be 'friends'.

You say he's "the hottest guy I've ever dated", but I didn't read anything here indicative of a date. From what you've written here that you did everything but twist his arm to get him to meet you. And when you pushed to meet with him again he wasn't having it.

He's just not that into you. Period.

Keep swiping right.

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Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Seraphlight
A guy like this would be too much for me. If you seem in a different league to me though. My countries dating game is less sophisticated and i am a bloody girl guide.

I'd be out of my depth dealing with guys like this.

Yeah American boys can be difficult!! Or maybe it's because we are in our mid 20s. He's the stereotypical California surfer guy ?

i feel irish guys are too much for me i don't envy you ...american dating always seems so cut throat!

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pretty accurate. I've lived in big US cities for the past 5 and a half years ?

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Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by jeane
to me it sounds like he is not sure about you. if you are a flirty with other guys (as he perceives it) he is not going to pursue you with a vengeance.

i think it will a long game of you proving your worth to him. by nature they are cautious so they want something to be a sure bet before they start chasing.

it depends if you want await around for him to make his mind up about you. maybe he has been burnt in the past, maybe he'll decide that he only want something casual and physical. maybe this other girl is a rouse to distance himself from you.

It's also like the being jealous and coming up with lame excuses as to why he can't hang out TOTALLY conflict... I'm just over here learning how to feel.

Jealousy, i wouldnt put too much stock in. It's not so much about you but about posturing in front of other guys.

You really think he would make someone up to piss me off? That's a whole new level of petty, I aspire to be.

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Not to piss you off but more to give you the brush off.

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

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I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

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Yeah possibly. Hence my username, 4everconfused, I still don't understand what the heck is going on or why he's acting like this, but I'm not super attached to what's going to happen. I posted this topic to try to decipher his behavior and I'm intrigued by all the different responses I've gotten ?

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

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I don't know what kind of ultimatum. If you guys are barely talking right now, I'd say don't bother. Just go on with your life.

If he pops up here and there, contacts you to complain about his life, hangs out with you and acts like he owns you and no one can talk to you, that's when you need to set things straight.

Even if he just goes back to stalking your Snapchat and asking about the guys you hang out with. That would be a good time to tell him he better stop acting like you can't have guys as friends or he can get lost and bother someone else.

Are you still trying to have a relationship with him? I'm starting to forget all the details here lol.

Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

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also, I wasn't trying to use a power play exactly, more like I got annoyed and forgave him / got over bein annoyed. Seems like he did too cause he literally showed up to my house one day when I was sleepinz

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know what kind of ultimatum. If you guys are barely talking right now, I'd say don't bother. Just go on with your life.

If he pops up here and there, contacts you to complain about his life, hangs out with you and acts like he owns you and no one can talk to you, that's when you need to set things straight.

Even if he just goes back to stalking your Snapchat and asking about the guys you hang out with. That would be a good time to tell him he better stop acting like you can't have guys as friends or he can get lost and bother someone else.

Are you still trying to have a relationship with him? I'm starting to forget all the details here lol.

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yeah idk either 5 pages in and everyone's messages are blurring together.

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know what kind of ultimatum. If you guys are barely talking right now, I'd say don't bother. Just go on with your life.

If he pops up here and there, contacts you to complain about his life, hangs out with you and acts like he owns you and no one can talk to you, that's when you need to set things straight.

Even if he just goes back to stalking your Snapchat and asking about the guys you hang out with. That would be a good time to tell him he better stop acting like you can't have guys as friends or he can get lost and bother someone else.

Are you still trying to have a relationship with him? I'm starting to forget all the details here lol.

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Thanks for the advice bricks!! I'll try to retain your kickass attitude ??

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Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

also, I wasn't trying to use a power play exactly, more like I got annoyed and forgave him / got over bein annoyed. Seems like he did too cause he literally showed up to my house one day when I was sleepinz

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No matter how it is painted ultimatums are two people wrestling over power. He may come round to your way of thinking but at what cost? Yeah, he may come to his senses and sort himself out but will it stick if the motivation is external?

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Posted by 4ever_confused

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Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

also, I wasn't trying to use a power play exactly, more like I got annoyed and forgave him / got over bein annoyed. Seems like he did too cause he literally showed up to my house one day when I was sleepinz

No matter how it is painted ultimatums are two people wrestling over power. He may come round to your way of thinking but at what cost? Yeah, he may come to his senses and sort himself out but will it stick if the motivation is external?

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Yeah girl I'm not sure, idk idk. Time for another nap. I'll update this thread if anything changes!

Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

also, I wasn't trying to use a power play exactly, more like I got annoyed and forgave him / got over bein annoyed. Seems like he did too cause he literally showed up to my house one day when I was sleepinz

No matter how it is painted ultimatums are two people wrestling over power. He may come round to your way of thinking but at what cost? Yeah, he may come to his senses and sort himself out but will it stick if the motivation is external?

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He already tried exerting too much power in her life.

"I'm gonna show up when I feel like it and you should be ready for me. Who are these guys? How do you know them?"

To me, in my mind, that's disrespect and she has the right to assert her own power as opposed to letting him act that way freely.

I think it's a bad sign when one person wields all the power while the other allows it for whatever reason. People need to keep each other in check. I don't remember everything about this guy anymore, but what I do remember made me think he had control issues.

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Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by jeane

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195

Posted by JohnTheBaptist100

Posted by 4ever_confused

Posted by Bricks195
Some of the things I see on these forums make me shake my head.

"Is this a Taurus thing? Are all Scorpio men like this? If I make my Pisces feel more secure, will he stop passive-aggressively dicking me around and commit? Will my Sag stop cheating on me eventually if I'm patient?"

Smdh.

This guy sounds like he has a big problem with jealousy and now he's trying to make you jealous. He can't handle you having other guys in your life, so now he's got this other girl-maybe-and he's using her-if she's even real-to hurt you because he thinks you might have other guys in your life.

The fact that you couldn't get simpatico and meet up at the festival or subsequently probably adds to it for him.

When I was younger, jealousy was a bigger issue for me. It would bug me if I thought my girlfriend was flirting with someone else, but I never would say anything. It would stew inside me and the girl could usually tell, but I would deny it.

As I got older, I stopped getting so jealous. I think a couple of the girls I dated when I was younger really were too flirtacious with other people. The women I've dated as a full-blown adult haven't acted that way.

Hate to say it, but that contrast-super chill one minute, jealous bastard the next-is kind of a Taurus thing. I think we have a tendency to be placid and harmless as a rule, but easily triggered by certain things to be jerks.

That isn't an excuse, though. Your dude needs either time to grow up or someone to get in his face and tell him his bullshit won't fly. Personally, I respect women who won't take my shit. Maybe he needs you to call him out on his jealousy issue, let him know you'll leave him in the dust if he doesn't cut the crap.

haha! i like how annoyed this is making you feel too! yes!!

i thought he was joking about there being other guys bit, i mean, is he serious? i never chase this much, but i really dig him.

i never saw it from that point of view, i wasn't being flakey because of another guy, it was literally the worst timing. my phone service cut off during the festival and i was dead asleep the second time. i can see it from his point of view though...

well for now he's ignoring me :/ i've tried giving him an ultimatum before but he will just drop me so hence why i've backpeddaled.

I'm not sure of your sun sign but DO NOT give ultimatums to anyone.... They don't work and you are in no position to especially to a Taurus male.. He will leave you in the dust forever once he has dug his hoofs in... He has already tried to go out with you a few times (although mine hunted me down for 18 months but that is another story). I suggest you stop chasing him and give him space and if he is still interested he will show up. Just continue to "obsess" from afar.

I'm a Taurus male and I suggest she give that Taurus male an ultimatum.

I am 100% in favor of turning the tables on someone whose actions make you feel pinned to a wall. I already don't like the jealousy issue with this guy. I think she should put his ass against the ropes fast, before she makes a real investment in him and that crap of his goes unchecked for so long that she thinks she has to play along.

If he's a decent guy, he'll start to reevaluate.

I like the way you think. But what kind of ultimatum would you suggest? I've already deleted him from Snapchat twice, matched with him on the dating app 3 times, and both flaked on hanging out a few times. I've told him twice that "this isn't a match" and "goodluck" and failed hard. He didn't budge, but he did start to kinda initiate again.

I don't know why you would start something that can only get going with a power play.

To me he sounds like he setting you up as a FWB.

also, I wasn't trying to use a power play exactly, more like I got annoyed and forgave him / got over bein annoyed. Seems like he did too cause he literally showed up to my house one day when I was sleepinz

No matter how it is painted ultimatums are two people wrestling over power. He may come round to your way of thinking but at what cost? Yeah, he may come to his senses and sort himself out but will it stick if the motivation is external?

He already tried exerting too much power in her life.

"I'm gonna show up when I feel like it and you should be ready for me. Who are these guys? How do you know them?"

To me, in my mind, that's disrespect and she has the right to assert her own power as opposed to letting him act that way freely.

I think it's a bad sign when one person wields all the power while the other allows it for whatever reason. People need to keep each other in check. I don't remember everything about this guy anymore, but what I do remember made me think he had control issues.

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Maybe. All the more reason to not engage. An ultimatum now will set the tone of not two people coming together but a relationship (in whatever form it takes) built on not a foundation of friendship but one that is combative and adversarial.

I have to agree with JohntheBaptist and jeane. It sounds like you should move on at this point-he seems to have some complex issues that he ought to battle out on his own. He doesn't sound like someone who could be in a healthy relationship at this point in his life.

But, if you really like him and really want to fight for a chance to have something with him, I say make it very known. Be spontaneous and let him know exactly how you feel about him and how (if possible) you'd like to move forward with a relationship with him. I think most Tauruses appreciate candor and clarity in these initial stages of dating (I know I do!). If he accepts, then you'll have to have a weighty conversation about any personal issues he has (his jealousy and the resulting petty "revenge" tactics) that will affect your relationship if left unchecked. After that, it's just baby steps to get where you want to be with him.

But, if your only option to elicit a serious response from him about your relationship is to peg him with an ultimatum, then keep on stepping. Otherwise, you'd be catalyzing a turbulent relationship with this man. 😢