Unevolved Taurus (Page 4)

Posted by iPootMagic
I can't believe I just read all that, lol.

I have a Scorp moon too (initially I thought it was Libra), and my Merc is in Aries...so that explains alot, esp in my past!

Yea, you seem a lil intense OP. Just chill, go with the flow a lil more, I def know how it feels for the need of "control". That will push most people away, every time.

That's our fear I think. Give them complete control and they run havoc on your emotions.

just one more thing about ultimatums; i don't like them and don't resort to them.

don't give him a choice - you do this or else - just ask how he is feeling. is he ready to be in a committed relationship with you and all that entails? if not, then you part as friends and you find someone who is. no fuss. rip that plaster right off. there is no negotiation or trying to compromise.

Posted by nerdyvirgp
Thank you. I wish I could express myself the way you do because this is how I mean for it to come out. He's wasting my time and lied. Although I am very aggressive the good thing about me is is that I have integrity and I have never lied and kept my word on everything. so I'm distancing myself from him!!! The cutt was deep for me. I will see him when I know I can control myself (and not pms ing)

i would encourage you to see thing from his point of view. i can understand why he lied but while it makes sense to him, on your side it becomes manipulative. telling lies to give you a certain sense of the world. i would bet my money he doesn't see it that way. he is trying to protect himself and buy him some time while he sorts things out in the background. for that reason, try not to be angry. it's not personal. he is not trying to screw you over, it just so happens that is the result. sometime we do the best we can and we still end up hurting those around us. keep in mind taurus with a dose of mars in cancer (mine bf too) feels incredibly protective. to his mind, his lies probably protect you from being hurt. it's madness but i can see the logic.

so don't allow the cut to be deep. give him the benefit of the doubt that he is trying his best and doesn't mean to hurt you. that's not to say that you shouldn't ask for what you want. i think a year is plenty long to decide where this is going and if it is right for you. he may decide to take the leap but be prepared that he might not be able to give you what you want at this time.

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Posted by busyeyes88
@AP.
I advise you, if you see potential with this taurus, please keep and hold out for your "relationship contract"! Meet this taurus in the new year as "platonic friends" only and hang out. He likes you already. Taurus men with sag moons are very sexual but if they like you they will respect you, hang out with you and treat you as a gf and after a matter of time of getting to know one another and building emotional foundations as friends, he will begin to see the potential of a relationship. Patience is needed. Mine treated me like a gf, no sex but our emotional bond is so close. I know him and the insides of his life more than anyone else. Our emotional ties are so strong.

Behind your taurus man's jokes is a very very sensitive soul. Insecurity is hidden behind his jokes.

I don't have any issue keeping my legs closed at all. There's no other option available to him. However, I feel he wants an easy lay and perhaps isn't interested in waiting or going about it in a more palatable way. Usually, he's been super responsive and always initiated. So far he's read but no replied. It wouldn't surprise me if he's not responsive because there's zero possibility of putting his dick in me considering I'm not in the country! Unsure about potential, lots of ticks, some things to think about. I wouldn't have minded being able to go out platonically without the huge pressure of having him constantly aiming to put his dick in me or his hands in my pants or in my bra. I told him as such and that it drives me away. Anyway, fuck knows. Up to him what he wants to do. If he wants to bother in the new year then no problem. Other than that I'm not contacting him.

Whether you want to open your legs or not shouldn't matter! Your not the problem here ugh smh

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It does matter in this case. Very much so. The conversations we've had means it's even more important to keep them closed. I'm not naive in that he has had one night stands or dates that have ended up in a fuck, we had these discussions and were very open about. I've done the same. He's 38, I'm 36. It happens. This dude said he places enormous importance on the passion/chemistry and wants to fuck immediately to see if it's there. If it's not then he's not interested. Now the probability of getting that on fucking on date one is very rare. It does happen but more often than not, it doesn't. His own words are that he can fuck a girl and can walk away because he doesn't care about her. I can do the same with a guy. The difference is I'm not looking to be easily conquered and then easily discarded. I said to him, why would I want to be the

I said to him, why would I want to be the girl you throw away because you don't care enough? He can get those anywhere, anytime. I told him I'm not looking to fuck quickly and my mind is set. It won't change. Here I will display consistency and we know a bull loves consistency ‰ He ain't getting my pussy on a plate for free. It's taken me a long time to 'stand up for myself' more. I'm not about to change that or endure emotional turmoil over some bloke who couldn't give a shit. So that's why the legs will remain closed!

Oh and he decided to respond. That's it for now though. Back to being the receptive one. I'm learning lots from this Taurus board Š

Posted by AgentP911
I said to him, why would I want to be the girl you throw away because you don't care enough? He can get those anywhere, anytime. I told him I'm not looking to fuck quickly and my mind is set. It won't change. Here I will display consistency and we know a bull loves consistency ‰ He ain't getting my pussy on a plate for free. It's taken me a long time to 'stand up for myself' more. I'm not about to change that or endure emotional turmoil over some bloke who couldn't give a shit. So that's why the legs will remain closed!

Oh and he decided to respond. That's it for now though. Back to being the receptive one. I'm learning lots from this Taurus board Š

he sounds like a cock.

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Posted by AgentP911
I said to him, why would I want to be the girl you throw away because you don't care enough? He can get those anywhere, anytime. I told him I'm not looking to fuck quickly and my mind is set. It won't change. Here I will display consistency and we know a bull loves consistency ‰ He ain't getting my pussy on a plate for free. It's taken me a long time to 'stand up for myself' more. I'm not about to change that or endure emotional turmoil over some bloke who couldn't give a shit. So that's why the legs will remain closed!

Oh and he decided to respond. That's it for now though. Back to being the receptive one. I'm learning lots from this Taurus board Š

he sounds like a cock.

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I've had better. I've had worse. Hence why I'm not overly bothered.

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I said to him, why would I want to be the girl you throw away because you don't care enough? He can get those anywhere, anytime. I told him I'm not looking to fuck quickly and my mind is set. It won't change. Here I will display consistency and we know a bull loves consistency ‰ He ain't getting my pussy on a plate for free. It's taken me a long time to 'stand up for myself' more. I'm not about to change that or endure emotional turmoil over some bloke who couldn't give a shit. So that's why the legs will remain closed!

Oh and he decided to respond. That's it for now though. Back to being the receptive one. I'm learning lots from this Taurus board Š

he sounds like a cock.

I've had better. I've had worse. Hence why I'm not overly bothered.

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i wouldn't waste your time. there are far better out there. i think his disposal method says a lot about him as a person. your whole exchange makes me have serious doubts about his level of empathy and selflessness.

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I said to him, why would I want to be the girl you throw away because you don't care enough? He can get those anywhere, anytime. I told him I'm not looking to fuck quickly and my mind is set. It won't change. Here I will display consistency and we know a bull loves consistency ‰ He ain't getting my pussy on a plate for free. It's taken me a long time to 'stand up for myself' more. I'm not about to change that or endure emotional turmoil over some bloke who couldn't give a shit. So that's why the legs will remain closed!

Oh and he decided to respond. That's it for now though. Back to being the receptive one. I'm learning lots from this Taurus board Š

he sounds like a cock.

I've had better. I've had worse. Hence why I'm not overly bothered.

i wouldn't waste your time. there are far better out there. i think his disposal method says a lot about him as a person. your whole exchange makes me have serious doubts about his level of empathy and selflessness.

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It was part of a much bigger exchange and a very open conversation. I understand what he's saying without judging him. Whether I agree with him or not is another subject. His disposal method is the same method I have used many times. If I've wanted a one night stand then I've selected someone who suits that need and then I've walked away. It's no different to what he has done. Like I say, we are in our mid/late 30's. The point here is that I don't think it's a match in what we are both looking for. I'm looking to meet someone who I'm attracted to and then spend time getting to know them before fucking. He wants to fuck immediately.

Posted by AgentP911
It was part of a much bigger exchange and a very open conversation. I understand what he's saying without judging him. Whether I agree with him or not is another subject. His disposal method is the same method I have used many times. If I've wanted a one night stand then I've selected someone who suits that need and then I've walked away. It's no different to what he has done. Like I say, we are in our mid/late 30's. The point here is that I don't think it's a match in what we are both looking for. I'm looking to meet someone who I'm attracted to and then spend time getting to know them before fucking. He wants to fuck immediately.

i'm adding it along with his persistent ,almost aggressive approach to cop a feel. your repeated attempts to get him to stop and his inability to respect that. in isolation, yes, i can appreciate this way of getting off and getting out.

as someone who is older than both of you, i have come across a fair few nice (taurus) men who would respect your wishes, respect you and invest the time to get to know you while understanding when you say no, you mean no. it's one thing to push the boundary, it's quite another to be boorish. beyond the issue at hand, his attitude speaks to a lot about how a person goes through life. he's shown you one example, would it apply to other facets in his life and if you got involved with him, would you witness and be on the receiving end of it when other examples come your way?

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Posted by AgentP911
It was part of a much bigger exchange and a very open conversation. I understand what he's saying without judging him. Whether I agree with him or not is another subject. His disposal method is the same method I have used many times. If I've wanted a one night stand then I've selected someone who suits that need and then I've walked away. It's no different to what he has done. Like I say, we are in our mid/late 30's. The point here is that I don't think it's a match in what we are both looking for. I'm looking to meet someone who I'm attracted to and then spend time getting to know them before fucking. He wants to fuck immediately.

i'm adding it along with his persistent ,almost aggressive approach to cop a feel. your repeated attempts to get him to stop and his inability to respect that. in isolation, yes, i can appreciate this way of getting off and getting out.

as someone who is older than both of you, i have come across a fair few nice (taurus) men who would respect your wishes, respect you and invest the time to get to know you while understanding when you say no, you mean no. it's one thing to push the boundary, it's quite another to be boorish. beyond the issue at hand, his attitude speaks to a lot about how a person goes through life. he's shown you one example, would it apply to other facets in his life and if you got involved with him, would you witness and be on the receiving end of it when other examples come your way?

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This cannot be answered yet. We've spent about 7 hours together. It can only be answered as time goes on and with opportunity to get to know each other more. If that happens then no problem. If it doesn't then no problem. If I become more concerned about things then I'll evaluate it then.

I had declined his offer of coming round his place each time. He was being opportunistic. I had continued to remind him it's not what I'm looking for. He's been pushing the boundary and Friday was the first time I addressed it properly and directly with him. This was new for me. It was the right decision. He reacted pretty well to it to be fair. I'm used to writing people off, cutting people off, and not addressing issues. This time I dealt with it. Said my bit. Gave him the opportunity. We discussed it. It's been left.

He's persistent. Not aggressive. He has many plus points. A few areas of concern too. Time will tell, legs will remain closed, and options will be kept open.

Posted by busyeyes88
@AP. Sorry I didn't know his body language was so strong ie "copping a feel" or trying to.touch you in unwanted places?! If that is the case, then what Jean says ^^^ above is correct.. My taurus has never EVER tried on.anything with me! He will only touch my knee, my arm or play with my hair... That's it!! Very respectful gentleman; open closing doors, seating me at restaurants ; ordering my food; carrying shopping baskets and packing my shopping and paying for it etc... Perfect gentleman. Nothing untoward.

Only do.what you are comfortable with.

We had a kiss at the end of the first date. His hands wandered a bit. Mine did too. That was it. He asked me to go back to his but I declined.

The persistent behaviour was him asking me via text each day to go round his place. Which I continued to decline. It was this which pissed me off. He was asking me to his. Essentially for sex. An optimistic opportunist. Instead of actually asking me out to go out on a date.

It pissed me off as I'd already stated I wasn't looking for that but he continued to ask.

After I confronted him via text about his behaviour and I told him how he was coming across to me and how it made me feel (that he was just after sex) I gave him the opportunity to meet me that night for a two hour drink in local pub. I said I'd be leaving before 20:00 as I had a party to drop into. He chose to meet. We discussed some things, the nice thing was being honest and non judgemental with each other. I think he was quite surprised that A) I confronted him about how his behaviour made me feel, and B) he was a little embarrassed as he hadn't realised how his behaviour had made me feel and the impression he was giving. We had another kiss, he had toned down his physical behaviour.

In conclusion, it wasn't so much his physical behaviour, it was his persistent asking me to go to his place rather than asking me out.

Posted by AgentP911
We had a kiss at the end of the first date. His hands wandered a bit. Mine did too. That was it. He asked me to go back to his but I declined.

The persistent behaviour was him asking me via text each day to go round his place. Which I continued to decline. It was this which pissed me off. He was asking me to his. Essentially for sex. An optimistic opportunist. Instead of actually asking me out to go out on a date.

It pissed me off as I'd already stated I wasn't looking for that but he continued to ask.

After I confronted him via text about his behaviour and I told him how he was coming across to me and how it made me feel (that he was just after sex) I gave him the opportunity to meet me that night for a two hour drink in local pub. I said I'd be leaving before 20:00 as I had a party to drop into. He chose to meet. We discussed some things, the nice thing was being honest and non judgemental with each other. I think he was quite surprised that A) I confronted him about how his behaviour made me feel, and B) he was a little embarrassed as he hadn't realised how his behaviour had made me feel and the impression he was giving. We had another kiss, he had toned down his physical behaviour.

In conclusion, it wasn't so much his physical behaviour, it was his persistent asking me to go to his place rather than asking me out.

ah, ok. i got the impression that he was repeatedly reaching into your pants and bra and that you were almost batting him off. my impression that his aries was quite aggressive.

you said "the huge pressure of having him constantly aiming to put his dick in me or his hands in my pants or in my bra" and "It was just a bit much at some points." as well as "when it focuses on fucking, like asking what I'm doing tonight and that he's obviously not going to be getting it, it is exhausting. Like I'm being hit constantly."

if he was just trying to have a grope during a kiss, well, that's to be expected but if you feel a huge pressure beyond your protests then that's a different story. good that he responded well to you bringing it up. like you said, he probably didn't realise how he was coming off.

Posted by busyeyes88
@Jeane. I guess it's a bit like me having a merc in Aries. I don't always know how aggressive I am being until someone tells me... Like my merc taurus would call me me out on it if I was being too aggressive and say to me "but you need to hear these things"... Lol lol

lol! great comparison! ok! i'm convinced!

If he'd have been overly physical in an uncomfortable way and hadn't stopped then a swift knee to his balls would have remedied that! A snog and a grope, that was no problem.

Constantly asking about sex or focusing on it became a huge uncomfortable pressure. I said no. No means no. In person and via text. Stop asking as I find that insulting. Like he hasn't listened to me. Pressure because I'd prefer to go out and have a nice time without the pressure of having to bat off the 'sex' requests, so to speak. If he does ask me out in the new year, not just round for sex, then I want to feel we can go out without him thinking about putting his dick in every five minutes. That's just going to irritate me so hopefully he can calm it the fuck down and be bloody normal!

No, he didn't realise. Let's see if he truly has taken it on board.

^^^ that is a good comparison you two. How many times has Busy been pulled up on a perceived 'aggressiveness' on this site? Loads!

It might be that this dude is a total prick just after sex. It might not. Either way I'm not losing anything so I'll see what happens.

I actually very much appreciate ALL your views on this stuff. It often gives me food for thought. Thought I'd mention good on the Taurus forum ‰

Food* fucking predictive text!

I'm so late but... You messed up when he got the ball in his court... To him, he thinks he can take his time (more than what he's already doing) making a decision about you because you are waiting for him. And now he's trying to weigh the pros and cons of continuing anything with you. And like most men, they like to live in the present, they don't like to be stressed about the future. And him not responding to your hard questions is a taurus not saying yes and not saying no. He's gonna have to see that you are not putting you life (social) on stand still - for him to pick up the pace. And to avoid any sexual pressure, stick to public settings when you meet up (simple)... Cause those taurus men are good at what they do girl. Lol

For the record, this was what I text him on Friday to address his persistent behaviour of asking me round his place for the millionth time!!!

It's like this, I could have made myself available for a few hours this evening if you had asked me out for a drink or a bite to eat. However, you're giving me the distinct impression you only want to see me for sex despite me making it exceptionally clear to you that I wasn't looking for just sex. From anyone. I enjoyed the time I spent with you the other night and all of our messages, even the one until 4am on Saturday. If your underlying intention is solely to get in my knickers then you are wasting your time. If you want to see me again because you actually like me then that's fine with me.

^^^ this is exactly how he said he works and that's exactly how he goes about it pretty much all the time.

Your a strong woman I love it @AP

I can't take all credit. I was at work when his text came in and it just fucked me off so another girl where I'm working who is similar to me said to tell him exactly what I'd just said to her. So she helped me word it and off it went! Good feeling though and right thing to do.