Wait for Sex?

Taurus man here that needs some advice:

My ex and I were together for about 2 years before I decided to end the relationship. I broke up with her because I was depressed, unstable in my life (mentally and financially) and felt as if she deserved better. She took this break up extremely hard. We have been broken up for almost two years now and I think about her a lot. During the break up I finished school earning my getting my masters degree and landed a position making pretty good money. Now the only thing I'm missing is her. I finally built up enough courage and reached out to her just to see how she was doing. She kept the conversation short but I went in for more. We agreed to meet up. I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. She came out and told me that she still loves me too but no longer 'in love' with me which I understand.

I asked her if we could give our relationship another try, on her terms of course, she became hesitant and distant with her reply. She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that). Talking to her more she then came out and told me how she became 'saved' and told me that she is waiting until marriage to have sex. This through me off completely. I told her I didn't think I could do that and she ended the conversation and was ready to leave. A few days later I started to question if I could wait on her. She is everything I want my wife to be but I know not having sex until marriage would be extremely frustrating to me and don't think I could go through with it. Is this selfish or stubborn of me to think this way?

I'm needing opinions from both men and women. To wait or not to wait for the woman you desire?

well, how do these two options sound to your ears?

be with this woman but wait for sex?

or

be with another woman but have sex?

do you have a gut feeling about either option?

Posted by Smil3
" I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. "



"She is everything I want my wife to be..."



She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that)





You dated for 2 years, you broke it off and now you're back. So if you think she's everything you want in a wife,

what are you waiting for?

I agree with that but I also wonder would worry about the changes - people do change - it sounds a bit manipulative on her part but if he would know what is the real story / what is true if he just keeps talking to her - so where they friends for the 2 years they were not "together" ... seems just a bit off but maybe just not enough info

You said you want her in your life and to marry her.

She was forced to deal with things on your terms the first time, now it's payback.

If you want her, you gotta deal.

You shouldn't be thinking about sex this early on anyway.

She just semi let you back in.

If you want her to be your wife, back those words up dude. She's testing you right now. If you want her as your wife, then marry her, and there's your sex. I don't see what the issue is here? Didn't you tell her you wanted her to be the one you marry?

Posted by greengemini_

Posted by RockJ4
Taurus man here that needs some advice:



My ex and I were together for about 2 years before I decided to end the relationship. I broke up with her because I was depressed, unstable in my life (mentally and financially) and felt as if she deserved better. She took this break up extremely hard. We have been broken up for almost two years now and I think about her a lot. During the break up I finished school earning my getting my masters degree and landed a position making pretty good money. Now the only thing I'm missing is her. I finally built up enough courage and reached out to her just to see how she was doing. She kept the conversation short but I went in for more. We agreed to meet up. I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. She came out and told me that she still loves me too but no longer 'in love' with me which I understand.



I asked her if we could give our relationship another try, on her terms of course, she became hesitant and distant with her reply. She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that). Talking to her more she then came out and told me how she became 'saved' and told me that she is waiting until marriage to have sex. This through me off completely. I told her I didn't think I could do that and she ended the conversation and was ready to leave. A few days later I started to question if I could wait on her. She is everything I want my wife to be but I know not having sex until marriage would be extremely frustrating to me and don't think I could go through with it. Is this selfish or stubborn of me to think this way?



I'm needing opinions from both men and women. To wait or not to wait for the woman you desire?

she wants you to propose to her. Female logic. Manipulative. Is she a cancer? click to expand

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She sounds like a capricorn too.

This is exactly how I would deal with a situation like this.

Posted by jeane
well, how do these two options sound to your ears?

be with this woman but wait for sex?

or

be with another woman but have sex?

do you have a gut feeling about either option?

This is what I've been battling with in my head. I've been with a few other women after her but I don't have nearly the feelings for them like I have with my ex :/

Posted by greengemini_

Posted by RockJ4
Taurus man here that needs some advice:



My ex and I were together for about 2 years before I decided to end the relationship. I broke up with her because I was depressed, unstable in my life (mentally and financially) and felt as if she deserved better. She took this break up extremely hard. We have been broken up for almost two years now and I think about her a lot. During the break up I finished school earning my getting my masters degree and landed a position making pretty good money. Now the only thing I'm missing is her. I finally built up enough courage and reached out to her just to see how she was doing. She kept the conversation short but I went in for more. We agreed to meet up. I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. She came out and told me that she still loves me too but no longer 'in love' with me which I understand.



I asked her if we could give our relationship another try, on her terms of course, she became hesitant and distant with her reply. She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that). Talking to her more she then came out and told me how she became 'saved' and told me that she is waiting until marriage to have sex. This through me off completely. I told her I didn't think I could do that and she ended the conversation and was ready to leave. A few days later I started to question if I could wait on her. She is everything I want my wife to be but I know not having sex until marriage would be extremely frustrating to me and don't think I could go through with it. Is this selfish or stubborn of me to think this way?



I'm needing opinions from both men and women. To wait or not to wait for the woman you desire?

she wants you to propose to her. Female logic. Manipulative. Is she a cancer? click to expand

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She is a virgo

It's a trap and a test. You hurt her...she may be trying to get even. A lot can happen in two years.

Dont rush into marriage. Date and get to know her again...you may soon realize she isn't the one anymore or that she still is then go from there. But at least if she isnt...you can walk away with no bs.

Posted by Impulsv
I would tell her understand your concerns
Let’s get to know each other
I’m hoping I can build n gain your trust and when we reach that level lee can discuss n reevaluate if we are both ready for intimacy

I agree with this.

You need to communicate to her and let her know why you did what you did.

Also put yourself in her shoes.

Would you easily go back to someone that just abruptly broke it off with you?

You will have to work for what you want this time, and rightfully so.

If you hit another low in life, how will you handle it next time?!

She needs to make sure she doesn't put her heart in a situation like that with you again.

At-least she's lowkey willing to give you another chance, and ultimately saying she'd possibly like to marry you as well.

I honestly don't see the problem.

Posted by LostinmyMind11
It's a trap and a test. You hurt her...she may be trying to get even. A lot can happen in two years.

Dont rush into marriage. Date and get to know her again...you may soon realize she isn't the one anymore or that she still is then go from there. But at least if she isnt...you can walk away with no bs.

Virgos are the get-even-queens.

I don't blame them though, especially not in cases like this.

Posted by Smil3


@tctao

'...so where they friends for the 2 years they were not "together" ... seems just a bit off but maybe just not enough

info"



I was under the impression they were not in contact.

@RockJ4

that what I was thinking - and people can change a lot in just a few years ...

Posted by lnana04

Posted by LostinmyMind11
It's a trap and a test. You hurt her...she may be trying to get even. A lot can happen in two years.



Dont rush into marriage. Date and get to know her again...you may soon realize she isn't the one anymore or that she still is then go from there. But at least if she isnt...you can walk away with no bs.

Virgos are the get-even-queens.
I don't blame them though, especially not in cases like this. click to expand

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We can be...yes. We put our all into relationships and when someone hurts us like that...we can become jaded and a little vindictive but not in the same way a Scorpio do. You won't really know when a Virgo is doing it...

Posted by DeleterNerd
I always have the chance to get even with an ex. I never take it. I just ignore because their presence irritates me. I do think long and hard about how I'd do it though lol.

Sometimes the ignoring is getting even...

Posted by The_Mad_Hatter
Here:

Agree to date with no sex (you'll come across chivalrous, patient, and controlled).

Be the charming Taurus you've always been.

Wait for her to break her own rule and want to have sex with you.

Reassure her you aren't going anywhere.

- his balls might turn blue before that happens - her life change decision to get saved and not have any more sex before marriage was a result of the immense hurt and betrayal she already experienced - he might spend eternity paying for that in one way or another - he needs to be cautious but yes, date her for a long time and see where she's at cause she also needs to know where he's at

It will be no time before she breaks her own "rule" 😂😂

She’s a Virgo wait my friend be patient with her if you really love her you will gladly do what you have to do to be back in her heart again don’t be stubborn. She may be telling you that she won’t have sex before marriage, but I’m sure if you play your cards right she’ll change that tune real quick. I say date her never push her for sex and if you get the urge to splurge rub one out virgals are worth the wait.

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by jeane
well, how do these two options sound to your ears?



be with this woman but wait for sex?



or



be with another woman but have sex?



do you have a gut feeling about either option?

This is what I've been battling with in my head. I've been with a few other women after her but I don't have nearly the feelings for them like I have with my ex :/ click to expand

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well, i think that's your decision then. leaving her would risk further meaningless interactions with other women.

you can take the punt that perhaps you would meet the perfect woman but if you think you've already found her, why would you pass that up?

Posted by Impulsv
This is your lesson
To allow others in m part of your life when your life ain’t that great
A lot of Taurus do this
Cut others off because life is not on their terms
Well maybe just maybe they are supposed to be there to share that journey.
Anyhow I’d communicate honestly n tell her why you ended it in the first place
U are a red flag
The moment a hardship occurs you will cut off because u believe they deserve better
Nobody wants to invest for u to leave. Soy ha e to show her that you no longer believe that mentality

Sorry OP for getting offtopic, but Id like to pick Impulsv`s Brain.

We think that having everything sorted is a prerequisite for having a relationship in the first place.

Subsequently we end relationships when everything is not sorted out anymore.

It never occured that this can be interpreted as weakness, or us being liabilities. So handling our shit without

managing a relationship is a sign of weakness in your opinion?

Whats your take on this? The Partner is supposed to stick through hard times with us? What if we

got serious Crisisses to handle?

Posted by Parkourler

Posted by Impulsv
This is your lesson

To allow others in m part of your life when your life ain’t that great

A lot of Taurus do this

Cut others off because life is not on their terms

Well maybe just maybe they are supposed to be there to share that journey.

Anyhow I’d communicate honestly n tell her why you ended it in the first place

U are a red flag

The moment a hardship occurs you will cut off because u believe they deserve better

Nobody wants to invest for u to leave. Soy ha e to show her that you no longer believe that mentality

Sorry OP for getting offtopic, but Id like to pick Impulsv`s Brain.
We think that having everything sorted is a prerequisite for having a relationship in the first place.
Subsequently we end relationships when everything is not sorted out anymore.

It never occured that this can be interpreted as weakness, or us being liabilities. So handling our shit without
managing a relationship is a sign of weakness in your opinion?

Whats your take on this? The Partner is supposed to stick through hard times with us? What if we
got serious Crisisses to handle? click to expand

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i think this is one of the major differences between men and women. in times of hardship, men isolate, women congregate. so when a man leaves to get his shit together a woman feels abandoned because that is not how she deals with things.

your partner is supposed to stick with you. if you have a crisis then you face it together. what are you going to do in a long term relationship and the road gets bumpy? break up, leave your wife and children because life got a bit hard? at some point you have to stay.

of course it doesn't always work out that way, married men will still isolate themselves by drinking or gambling, sleeping with other women, doing something dangerous, or even as innocuous as spending hours in their shed or playing golf.

and what do women say? he never talks to me.

it's a big struggle between the sexes.

Posted by tctao

Posted by Smil3
" I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. "





"She is everything I want my wife to be..."





She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that)








You dated for 2 years, you broke it off and now you're back. So if you think she's everything you want in a wife,


what are you waiting for?

I agree with that but I also wonder would worry about the changes - people do change - it sounds a bit manipulative on her part but if he would know what is the real story / what is true if he just keeps talking to her - so where they friends for the 2 years they were not "together" ... seems just a bit off but maybe just not enough info click to expand

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Trying to catch up on everything. No we weren't friends during the break up. However, I'd check up on her every now and then but that's about it.

Posted by RockJ4
She is everything I want my wife to be but I know not having sex until marriage would be extremely frustrating to me and don't think I could go through with it. Is this selfish or stubborn of me to think this way?

Not selfish or stubborn. More like stupid.

She's everything you want. You can't get her outta your head. You want to make her your wife. So do. Put a ring on that finger.

I get where she's coming from. Why give her body and heart again to the person who took a dump on her feels.

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by tctao

Posted by Smil3
" I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. "







"She is everything I want my wife to be..."







She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that)











You dated for 2 years, you broke it off and now you're back. So if you think she's everything you want in a wife,



what are you waiting for?

I agree with that but I also wonder would worry about the changes - people do change - it sounds a bit manipulative on her part but if he would know what is the real story / what is true if he just keeps talking to her - so where they friends for the 2 years they were not "together" ... seems just a bit off but maybe just not enough info click to expand

Trying to catch up on everything. No we weren't friends during the break up. However, I'd check up on her every now and then but that's about it. click to expand

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oh ok - well good luck anyway with everything

Posted by Impulsv
Whatever u do
Don’t disappear!!!!
Both must communicate to come at agreeable solutions
N it might mean you have to prover yourself for a bit

I kind of already 'disappered'

I haven't talked to her since that conversation

It's been almost a month now.

I'm just trying to get my mind together.

Posted by LentoBull91
She’s a Virgo wait my friend be patient with her if you really love her you will gladly do what you have to do to be back in her heart again don’t be stubborn. She may be telling you that she won’t have sex before marriage, but I’m sure if you play your cards right she’ll change that tune real quick. I say date her never push her for sex and if you get the urge to splurge rub one out virgals are worth the wait.

During our relationship she stopped having sex with me out of nowhere and it became the most frustrated part of our relationship and I don't want to put myself back in that situation again. I just don't know what to do. Maybe I am being a little selfish but I want to be happy also.

Posted by ScorpioTruth
“Is this selfish or stubborn of me to think this way?”







Re-read your own post, count the number of times you said *I* and turn that question inward to yourself.





“*I* broke up with her because *I* was depressed.”

*I* broke her heart because *I* wasn’t financially stable.

And now *I* don’t think *I* can wait for her because *I* have needs.

You have a point

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LentoBull91
She’s a Virgo wait my friend be patient with her if you really love her you will gladly do what you have to do to be back in her heart again don’t be stubborn. She may be telling you that she won’t have sex before marriage, but I’m sure if you play your cards right she’ll change that tune real quick. I say date her never push her for sex and if you get the urge to splurge rub one out virgals are worth the wait.

During our relationship she stopped having sex with me out of nowhere and it became the most frustrated part of our relationship and I don't want to put myself back in that situation again. I just don't know what to do. Maybe I am being a little selfish but I want to be happy also. click to expand

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if you haven't spoken to her in a month, keep it that way. you are not ready for a serious relationship. continue getting yourself in order. you'll be ready when you're ready. to try and involve someone else at this stage would be harmful to the other person.

Posted by RockJ4
My ex and I were together for about 2 years before I decided to end the relationship. I broke up with her because I was depressed, unstable in my life (mentally and financially) and felt as if she deserved better. She took this break up extremely hard.

I hate this bs excuse. You think life gets easier after you graduate and are working full time, juggling work, romantic relationship, children...etc? Your in for a rude awakening.

Your SO should be the person you turn too for support during hard times. Not push them away and punish them for something not of their making.

But, I mean, congrats on the great paying job I guess.

Um...so it doesnt bother you that she's born again?! I mean that would be a deal breaker for me. She clearly was lost without you if she went that route. Anyway.......when you break someone's heart you have to atone for it for a long time...who gives a shit about screwing? If you love her, show her.

Posted by boxcarmirnta
Um...so it doesnt bother you that she's born again?! I mean that would be a deal breaker for me. She clearly was lost without you if she went that route. Anyway.......when you break someone's heart you have to atone for it for a long time...who gives a butter about screwing? If you love her, show her.

No, that doesn't bother me. She was a 'church' girl when I met her and it was pretty attractive to me. I will be taking some time to myself to get things together.

Most women get attached emotionally from having sex, I personally do

Thats what waiting for marriage is, guarding your heart

look how quickly you are having second doubts "on who you say is the ONE" based on what she said

Its not like you will never have sex, its just that RIGHT NOW, her terms are that she doesn't want it

Its a union of the souls, believe me. Soul ties are real y'all

Probably to see where you are too, you left dude. Thats the worst thing someone can do

Anyway, you left her because you were in a bad place?why?? please, I don't understand why going through a hard time would make you leave the person you love, who stood by you for 2 years.

Now its 4yrs later and you have a chance with her again, if you want her, SHOW HER.

Compromise and try to be without sex. Usually its till there's more trust

Posted by Parkourler

Posted by Impulsv
This is your lesson

To allow others in m part of your life when your life ain’t that great

A lot of Taurus do this

Cut others off because life is not on their terms

Well maybe just maybe they are supposed to be there to share that journey.

Anyhow I’d communicate honestly n tell her why you ended it in the first place

U are a red flag

The moment a hardship occurs you will cut off because u believe they deserve better

Nobody wants to invest for u to leave. Soy ha e to show her that you no longer believe that mentality

Sorry OP for getting offtopic, but Id like to pick Impulsv`s Brain.
We think that having everything sorted is a prerequisite for having a relationship in the first place.
Subsequently we end relationships when everything is not sorted out anymore.

It never occured that this can be interpreted as weakness, or us being liabilities. So handling our shit without
managing a relationship is a sign of weakness in your opinion?

Whats your take on this? The Partner is supposed to stick through hard times with us? What if we
got serious Crisisses to handle? click to expand

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Yes, its a sign of cowardice. The way its seen from the other perspective is that you "gave up".

Its only if you are IN a loving relationship that you decide to leave for x reasons, and say its because of work or something. Like what does work have to do with US?? as a couple?

Times get hard, people lose money/make money, its a team effort

To leave someone thats by your side and then you return, does make me feel like I cannot trust you won't leave again. You can't leave when times get hard! You just can't.

If you are single and do not want to get in and manage a relationship, thats different.

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by boxcarmirnta
Um...so it doesnt bother you that she's born again?! I mean that would be a deal breaker for me. She clearly was lost without you if she went that route. Anyway.......when you break someone's heart you have to atone for it for a long time...who gives a butter about screwing? If you love her, show her.

No, that doesn't bother me. She was a 'church' girl when I met her and it was pretty attractive to me. I will be taking some time to myself to get things together. click to expand

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mkay..well don't expect her to wait around if youre not gonna go out of your way to make it up to her.

PlsDontBeaVirgoPlsDontBeAVirgoPlsDontBeAVirgo

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by greengemini_

Posted by RockJ4
Taurus man here that needs some advice:







My ex and I were together for about 2 years before I decided to end the relationship. I broke up with her because I was depressed, unstable in my life (mentally and financially) and felt as if she deserved better. She took this break up extremely hard. We have been broken up for almost two years now and I think about her a lot. During the break up I finished school earning my getting my masters degree and landed a position making pretty good money. Now the only thing I'm missing is her. I finally built up enough courage and reached out to her just to see how she was doing. She kept the conversation short but I went in for more. We agreed to meet up. I expressed to her that I wanted her back in my life and told her she is the one I want to marry, which is true. She came out and told me that she still loves me too but no longer 'in love' with me which I understand.







I asked her if we could give our relationship another try, on her terms of course, she became hesitant and distant with her reply. She told me to 'show' her that I want her instead of telling her. (I guess I need some advice on how to do that). Talking to her more she then came out and told me how she became 'saved' and told me that she is waiting until marriage to have sex. This through me off completely. I told her I didn't think I could do that and she ended the conversation and was ready to leave. A few days later I started to question if I could wait on her. She is everything I want my wife to be but I know not having sex until marriage would be extremely frustrating to me and don't think I could go through with it. Is this selfish or stubborn of me to think this way?







I'm needing opinions from both men and women. To wait or not to wait for the woman you desire?

she wants you to propose to her. Female logic. Manipulative. Is she a cancer? click to expand

She is a virgo click to expand

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OH heck me she IS a Virgo .

Posted by LostinmyMind11
It will be no time before she breaks her own "rule" 😂😂

Yeah that’s true. We break a lot of our own rules for our lovers when we’re in love.

Posted by ScorpioTruth

Posted by boxcarmirnta
Um...so it doesnt bother you that she's born again?! I mean that would be a deal breaker for me. She clearly was lost without you if she went that route. Anyway.......when you break someone's heart you have to atone for it for a long time...who gives a shit about screwing? If you love her, show her.

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bc who does that? It's super creepy sorry.

Posted by Impulsv

Posted by boxcarmirnta

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by boxcarmirnta
Um...so it doesnt bother you that she's born again?! I mean that would be a deal breaker for me. She clearly was lost without you if she went that route. Anyway.......when you break someone's heart you have to atone for it for a long time...who gives a butter about screwing? If you love her, show her.

No, that doesn't bother me. She was a 'church' girl when I met her and it was pretty attractive to me. I will be taking some time to myself to get things together. click to expand

mkay..well don't expect her to wait around if youre not gonna go out of your way to make it up to her. click to expand

Omg here we go ! More time to get things together! For what ? What’s going to happen after this time.

She’ll be gone cuz u just disappeared again n proved what ur made off

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exactly.

Update:

She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.

If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.

Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around.

Posted by Impulsv

Posted by Impulsv
This is a troll thread

Otherwise u are a very shallow man

She spills her heart so you can be incredibly stupid click to expand

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How? I'm allowed to be happy too right?

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

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Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me?

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
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She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand

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Emotions, tender feelings...have nothing to do with sex. As you’ve proven here...

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Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand

Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body

She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual



I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand

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I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship.

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand

Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body

She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual



I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand

I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand

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it's the best decision. you want sex, she doesn't. no deal.

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Posted by RockJ4

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand

Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body

She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual



I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand

I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand

What's your moon, venus, mars, asc click to expand

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I have a Capricorn moon. I'm not sure of the other placements.

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand

Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body

She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual



I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand

I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand

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You know what else is part of a relationship? Not discarding your partner when you can’t handle your own shit.

She needs you to prove that your gonna stick around for the long run. And since she dedicated 2 years in a relationship with you and you still tossed her aside, she figures marriage will be more binding and harder for you to ghost on.

Sex is important to you? Security is important to her. What guarantee does she have you won’t use and discard her like the first time? A marriage certificate...that’s her guarantee.

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by UnusualVaginalDischarge

Posted by RockJ4

Posted by LadyNeptune

Posted by RockJ4
Update:



She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...

Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.



If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.



Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand

Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand

Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body

She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual



I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand

I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expandclick to expandclick to expandclick to expand

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Agreed, if you are so far apart in your sexual needs being met it won't work long term...

@RockJ4,



She owes you nothing.

Not even her coochie or a BJ.

If she laid there uninterested, your sex game needs some work.

Just because she wants to reconcile, this doesn't indicate that you're a rock star in bed.

It just means that she still feels an emotional connection to you.



...And please don't patronize us with the we're not compatible because of our values speech.



Something tells me, if you she were riding you like a porn star, you would have overlooked all your insecurities and all her other flaws. In other words, you would have remained with her, depression or no depression.



I'm a Bull, on the flip side of the coin, I also know how hedonistic, and selfish we can also be at times.



So please, stop it!