I know I can be stubborn. My heart wants her back and the only thing I want is for my girl to be freaky and know how to cook and clean. I don’t think that is much...My standards are very low and that’s all I’m asking for
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Posted by RockJ4Waaaaait a minute. You want to marry her but you can’t be that long without sex! How long? Are you planning on courting her for years?Posted by LentoBull91
She’s a Virgo wait my friend be patient with her if you really love her you will gladly do what you have to do to be back in her heart again don’t be stubborn. She may be telling you that she won’t have sex before marriage, but I’m sure if you play your cards right she’ll change that tune real quick. I say date her never push her for sex and if you get the urge to splurge rub one out virgals are worth the wait.
During our relationship she stopped having sex with me out of nowhere and it became the most frustrated part of our relationship and I don't want to put myself back in that situation again. I just don't know what to do. Maybe I am being a little selfish but I want to be happy also. click to expandclick to expand
And how big is your sexual appetite that you can’t wait...for how long?
The fact that she stopped having sex with you is past maybe the red flag that she isn’t really into sex as much as you are. Then it will be a mistake to get married.
But the question is - how.long. before you are thinking of proposing? And what was your longest draugh period? Do you have to have sex daily? Something is wrong with this picture...
Posted by RockJ4so you want a maid who will suck you off? i think there are still certain countries where you can buy women like that. i guess if she is poor enough, she'll be up for anything.Posted by TaurusBull1977
@RockJ4,
She owes you nothing.
Not even her coochie or a BJ.
If she laid there uninterested, your sex game needs some work.
Just because she wants to reconcile, this doesn't indicate that you're a rock star in bed.
It just means that she still feels an emotional connection to you.
...And please don't patronize us with the we're not compatible because of our values speech.
Something tells me, if you she were riding you like a porn star, you would have overlooked all your insecurities and all her other flaws. In other words, you would have remained with her, depression or no depression.
I'm a Bull, on the flip side of the coin, I also know how hedonistic, and selfish we can also be at times.
So please, stop it!
I know I can be stubborn. My heart wants her back and the only thing I want is for my girl to be freaky and know how to cook and clean. I don’t think that is much...My standards are very low and that’s all I’m asking for click to expandclick to expand
what a waste of a Taurus man
Why does this seem like a trend with taurus men- leaving when things get hard.
Is this a trend I need to know about ? Lmao Bc if so... idk know about all this
Is this a trend I need to know about ? Lmao Bc if so... idk know about all this
Posted by RockJ4wow - I had to read that several times and my eyes are still burningPosted by TaurusBull1977
@RockJ4,
She owes you nothing.
Not even her coochie or a BJ.
If she laid there uninterested, your sex game needs some work.
Just because she wants to reconcile, this doesn't indicate that you're a rock star in bed.
It just means that she still feels an emotional connection to you.
...And please don't patronize us with the we're not compatible because of our values speech.
Something tells me, if you she were riding you like a porn star, you would have overlooked all your insecurities and all her other flaws. In other words, you would have remained with her, depression or no depression.
I'm a Bull, on the flip side of the coin, I also know how hedonistic, and selfish we can also be at times.
So please, stop it!
I know I can be stubborn. My heart wants her back and the only thing I want is for my girl to be freaky and know how to cook and clean. I don’t think that is much...My standards are very low and that’s all I’m asking forclick to expand
Posted by PinsNNeedlesThis is most likely the reason she stopped having sex as much with him.Posted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
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I know I can be stubborn. My heart wants her back and the only thing I want is for my girl to be freaky and know how to cook and clean. I don’t think that is much...My standards are very low and that’s all I’m asking for
wow - I had to read that several times and my eyes are still burning click to expand
Until she dumps him because he can’t fufill her needs
Hey Is that shallow?
I'd be curious how much sex he's had in that 2 year span of distance between them - and whether or not this push for sex is something that is on his mind and he wants but can't get so therefore "we're just not compatible" ... she spilled her true feelings and, well, we seem to know what he wants. And why was she so uninterested with sex previously. Could it be that he was obsessed with it and perhaps believe that sex = relationship. Because that doesn't add up. I like to think of sex as the icing on the cake. Got to love the cake - makes that delicious icing even better.
The way he spoke seems to border chauvinistic - if that is really where he's at, perhaps, as @jeane said, get a maid who will suck him off and twirl his duster . for a price.
She might be much better off learning her lesson and not ever being with him again - she should stay sober else she might cave and give in and then it will the same blah blah blah all over again. She'll be writing in and sobbing again over her Taurus man ghosting her ...
Posted by The_Mad_H8Reven then out of all the things you could choose to desribe your mate would you say "cook, clean, be freaky"? with the context that he doesn't want to pursue her any longer because she refuses to sleep with him?
I want to hope that is just an over-simplification for saying he has minimal expectations. Lord, please let it be that.
Posted by The_Mad_H8RPosted by jeanePosted by The_Mad_H8R
I want to hope that is just an over-simplification for saying he has minimal expectations. Lord, please let it be that.
even then out of all the things you could choose to desribe your mate would you say "cook, clean, be freaky"? with the context that he doesn't want to pursue her any longer because she refuses to sleep with him? click to expand
C'mon @jeane! You might have convinced me the other Taurus was gay, but I'm holding on to this guy's just really bad with words... let me at least have that! Lol click to expandclick to expand
ok! ok! go in peace. 😄
Posted by The_Mad_H8Ryeah lol he's really bad with words, like primal lol ... all of this has no reflection of all Taurus men - at least in my eyes - anyone else doesn't count - do they ? lolPosted by jeanePosted by The_Mad_H8R
I want to hope that is just an over-simplification for saying he has minimal expectations. Lord, please let it be that.
even then out of all the things you could choose to desribe your mate would you say "cook, clean, be freaky"? with the context that he doesn't want to pursue her any longer because she refuses to sleep with him? click to expand
C'mon @jeane! You might have convinced me the other Taurus was gay, but I'm holding on to this guy's just really bad with words... let me at least have that! Lolclick to expand
Posted by tctaaor it is cultural.Posted by The_Mad_H8RPosted by jeanePosted by The_Mad_H8R
I want to hope that is just an over-simplification for saying he has minimal expectations. Lord, please let it be that.
even then out of all the things you could choose to desribe your mate would you say "cook, clean, be freaky"? with the context that he doesn't want to pursue her any longer because she refuses to sleep with him? click to expand
C'mon @jeane! You might have convinced me the other Taurus was gay, but I'm holding on to this guy's just really bad with words... let me at least have that! Lol
yeah lol he's really bad with words, like primal lol ... all of this has no reflection of all Taurus men - at least in my eyes - anyone else doesn't count - do they ? lol click to expandclick to expand
Posted by jeanecould be as wellPosted by tctaaPosted by The_Mad_H8RPosted by jeanePosted by The_Mad_H8R
I want to hope that is just an over-simplification for saying he has minimal expectations. Lord, please let it be that.
even then out of all the things you could choose to desribe your mate would you say "cook, clean, be freaky"? with the context that he doesn't want to pursue her any longer because she refuses to sleep with him? click to expand
C'mon @jeane! You might have convinced me the other Taurus was gay, but I'm holding on to this guy's just really bad with words... let me at least have that! Lol
yeah lol he's really bad with words, like primal lol ... all of this has no reflection of all Taurus men - at least in my eyes - anyone else doesn't count - do they ? lol click to expand
or it is cultural.click to expand
Posted by PinsNNeedlesI don't love sex more than I love her. I just don't want to jeopardize my happiness again. What if I wait until marriage and she only has sex with me on her terms? That will really make me leave.Posted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
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Posted by lnana04She claims that we stopped having sex because I broke up with her a few times while we were together and I guess she used that against me but I still stayed until my depression kicked in. Our relationship wasn't 100% sex. I just don't want to go back down that sexual frustrated road again...Posted by PinsNNeedlesPosted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
click to expand
This is most likely the reason she stopped having sex as much with him.
click to expandclick to expand
Posted by tctaaI know I can be stubborn. My heart wants her back and the only thing I want is for my girl to be freaky and know how to cook and clean. I don’t think that is much...My standards are very low and that’s all I’m asking for
wow - I had to read that several times and my eyes are still burning click to expand
Until she dumps him because he can’t fufill her needs
Hey Is that shallow?
I'd be curious how much sex he's had in that 2 year span of distance between them - and whether or not this push for sex is something that is on his mind and he wants but can't get so therefore "we're just not compatible" ... she spilled her true feelings and, well, we seem to know what he wants. And why was she so uninterested with sex previously. Could it be that he was obsessed with it and perhaps believe that sex = relationship. Because that doesn't add up. I like to think of sex as the icing on the cake. Got to love the cake - makes that delicious icing even better.
The way he spoke seems to border chauvinistic - if that is really where he's at, perhaps, as @jeane said, get a maid who will suck him off and twirl his duster . for a price.
She might be much better off learning her lesson and not ever being with him again - she should stay sober else she might cave and give in and then it will the same blah blah blah all over again. She'll be writing in and sobbing again over her Taurus man ghosting her ...
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during the break up, I didn't have a lot of sex. I was focused on finishing school, being a father (I have a son from a previous relationship) and working on becoming a better man. I can't have sex with just anyone, I prefer sex from the woman I am with.
Posted by jeanemaybe I worded it wrong, but I don't ask for much. Those are just at the top of my list.Posted by The_Mad_H8R
I want to hope that is just an over-simplification for saying he has minimal expectations. Lord, please let it be that.
even then out of all the things you could choose to desribe your mate would you say "cook, clean, be freaky"? with the context that he doesn't want to pursue her any longer because she refuses to sleep with him? click to expandclick to expand
Posted by Impulsvyou might be right. which is why I'm reevaluating the whole relationship all over again. When I was with her the last time, she asked me if the good outweigh the bad. I've been thinking about that question since and I'm starting to think the bad outweighed the good...or maybe I'm not ready to be in a relationship again.Posted by RockJ4Posted by PinsNNeedlesPosted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
click to expand
I don't love sex more than I love her. I just don't want to jeopardize my happiness again. What if I wait until marriage and she only has sex with me on her terms? That will really make me leave. click to expand
Oh this is about you losing control
Op your afraid of your imaginary scenarios. Did that occur in your two year relationship yet still you claim love click to expandclick to expand
Posted by RockJ4Posted by lnana04Posted by PinsNNeedlesPosted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
click to expand
This is most likely the reason she stopped having sex as much with him.
click to expand
She claims that we stopped having sex because I broke up with her a few times while we were together and I guess she used that against me but I still stayed until my depression kicked in. Our relationship wasn't 100% sex. I just don't want to go back down that sexual frustrated road again... click to expandclick to expand
Did you think she was going to continue having sex with you during all of those times you broke up with her?
No wonder she doesn’t trust u lmao
Ohhhh ur a Taurus sun/Capricorn moon.
This is all making sense now
This is all making sense now
Posted by RockJ4Posted by tctaaI know I can be stubborn. My heart wants her back and the only thing I want is for my girl to be freaky and know how to cook and clean. I don’t think that is much...My standards are very low and that’s all I’m asking for
wow - I had to read that several times and my eyes are still burning click to expand
Until she dumps him because he can’t fufill her needs
Hey Is that shallow?
I'd be curious how much sex he's had in that 2 year span of distance between them - and whether or not this push for sex is something that is on his mind and he wants but can't get so therefore "we're just not compatible" ... she spilled her true feelings and, well, we seem to know what he wants. And why was she so uninterested with sex previously. Could it be that he was obsessed with it and perhaps believe that sex = relationship. Because that doesn't add up. I like to think of sex as the icing on the cake. Got to love the cake - makes that delicious icing even better.
The way he spoke seems to border chauvinistic - if that is really where he's at, perhaps, as @jeane said, get a maid who will suck him off and twirl his duster . for a price.
She might be much better off learning her lesson and not ever being with him again - she should stay sober else she might cave and give in and then it will the same blah blah blah all over again. She'll be writing in and sobbing again over her Taurus man ghosting her ...
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during the break up, I didn't have a lot of sex. I was focused on finishing school, being a father (I have a son from a previous relationship) and working on becoming a better man. I can't have sex with just anyone, I prefer sex from the woman I am with.
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good luck with your situation
Posted by ImpulsvI've told her my concerns. The one and only thing that's holding us back is the sex. Every time I've brought it up she brushed it off like it wasn't a big deal to me. She says things like 'If I can wait then you can too,' or "It's really not that big of deal." Those comments makes me feel as if she doesn't care about my needs.Posted by RockJ4Posted by ImpulsvPosted by RockJ4Posted by PinsNNeedlesPosted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
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I don't love sex more than I love her. I just don't want to jeopardize my happiness again. What if I wait until marriage and she only has sex with me on her terms? That will really make me leave. click to expand
Oh this is about you losing control
Op your afraid of your imaginary scenarios. Did that occur in your two year relationship yet still you claim love click to expand
you might be right. which is why I'm reevaluating the whole relationship all over again. When I was with her the last time, she asked me if the good outweigh the bad. I've been thinking about that question since and I'm starting to think the bad outweighed the good...or maybe I'm not ready to be in a relationship again. click to expand
Yet you were in another place then, worse off. Things are different now so you say with your depression. One thing I’ve learned about iyou Taurus one does not instill a single doubt because they will run wild with it n only focus on that negative. Lol
Why don’t you be an adult write a list of all your concerns sit down n talk to her n see what she says to them
You guys suck at communicating n never give the other a chance to a peace or rebuttal ur imaginary concerns click to expandclick to expand
Posted by LaMadrinai get what you are saying. i really do. to a degree, i agree with you but i also see his point.
To be honest, you are a selfish dumb ass. I'm not sugar coating this. All you think of is yourself. You don't get to decide what a person deserves. Love is thick and thin. It didn't matter to her if you were at a low point in life. She loved you and that is all that mattered. Any idiot can see she is still hurt after 2 years. You have the temerity to even assume you can come around after all of this time. Marriage is for better or worse. If you reach another low point will you be seeking divorce? You are an extremely high risk. Then you have gall to think about sex after all you've done to her. I'm not seeing where her feelings are being considered. You're lucky she's even talking to you. You hurt her once greatly before now you stroll in thinking she is supposed to go by your terms. A blindfold and heavy traffic is waiting for you, seriously. If you loved her and wanted to wed her, you'd do what it takes to not only win her, but give her security and assurance that your punk ass won't run off again.
Despite what you say, there are men out here who do wait to have sex on their wedding night. Damn your feelings. If you love her, you have to put her before you on this one. She probably doesn't even want to think of sleeping with you until she KNOWS you're staying put. And she's trying to see what your real intentions are. Are you here for real. Or are you here for sex. Violators cannot make the rules. Sex is for her to initiate, not you. But first you need to be doing some heavy work to build her love and trust again. That's where your damn mind needs to be. Not in your pants. Jerk ass.
i think we can all agree that he fucked up by breaking up with her when he felt that he couldn't be what he or she needed him to be in that moment. to especially now try and pick up where he left off like nothing happened is at the very least, insensitive.
but, i sort of get what he is saying too. sexual compatibility is important. sex drive is important. would you want to be in a sexless relationship? i certainly wouldn't.
yes, it's about making her feel comfortable and secure and all of that but what if it is more than that? what if she has little desire for sex? does he suffer in a sexless marriage for the rest of his life? again, i wouldn't. we can say that sex forms only a part of a marriage but for many people (and notoriously taurus) sex is a way to express love. without it it can become a very lonely partnership and one he doesn't want to enter if that is the deal.
sex is not a big part of the relationship when you are having it and are happy with the levels. sex becomes a massive part of the relationship if it's missing or you're not having your needs met.
to realise that before he enters into what could potentially be a life long arrangement shows some awareness on his part.
You desire her now because you got your crap together, but she wasn't good enough for you to stick around when you were a hot mess? Now you're willing to be with her on HER terms? Good God man! What happens when things go bad again, you going to cut and run? She's in a different place now. You have to ask yourself what is it about this person you so desire now, but wasn't good enough then for you to stick around and work through your stuff together. It's my personal opinion this lady of yours is going to have you jumping thru hoops to win her back. Asking you to accept her vow of abstinence until marriage is just the tip of the iceberg my friend. Follow your gut, move on. Take this experience as a lesson and treat the next lady better. Good luck!
Posted by SunsetvirgoI don't know.
Ohhhh ur a Taurus sun/Capricorn moon.
This is all making sense now
My old Taurus just popped up 2 weeks ago after two years, and he's popping up with the same attitude. I don't think he sees marriage in me like this guy sees in his girl, but they do pop up AFTER they've done you wrong, expecting things to pick up where they left off. He hasn't even apologized yet for ignoring me, or getting in a relationship. Odd behavior.
He's a Taurus/Aqua moon.
Posted by RockJ4why should she care about your needs right now? You have yet to prove yourself.Posted by ImpulsvPosted by RockJ4Posted by ImpulsvPosted by RockJ4Posted by PinsNNeedlesPosted by RockJ4Posted by UnusualVaginalDischargePosted by RockJ4Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by RockJ4
Update:
She drunk text me on Saturday night and we end up seeing each other. She poured all of her feelings out to me. I can tell she want us to be back together. I told her we would talk more when shes sober. We went out for lunch the next day and she remembered everything she told me that night before and meant it. She asked me if the good outweighed the bad in our relationship and for once I never thought of it. I value sex in a relationship and she doesn't. Our values aren't in line with each other so I don't think it will work again. When we were in our relationship she stop having sex with me (or had sympathy sex with me to shut me up) which became extremely frustrating for me & soon became one of the reasons why I broke up with her because it made me become unhappy in the relationship. She brushes off sex like its nothing to her and that bothers me. So I believe i'm coming to the conclusion that we won't work unless we share some of the same values and right now we don't...
Translation: she doesn’t enjoy sex with you.
If your as selfish in bed as you’ve proven to be both in and out of the relationship, well that checks out. No women likes feeling like your masturbating with her body.
Leave her alone and let her find the ‘better’ you abandoned her too the first time around. click to expand
Ok so why would she spill her heart out on possibly being back with me if she doesn't enjoy sex with me? click to expand
Because being emotionally attracted to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you want them for sex or their body
She probably loves talking to you, spending time with and other things that aren’t sexual
I used to have sex with a certain guy and the sex was not pleasurable for me but I kept going to him because I liked being around him—not for the sex click to expand
I enjoy spending time with her too. I spent pretty much the entire day with her but I have needs too. I'm not asking her sex right away but at the same time I don't want to until 'marriage' either. Sex is a big part of the relationship. click to expand
Love is more than sex. It's not the end-all in a relationship. It's the deepest way to connect to one's soul than just a bodily exchange. But it's still a fleeting moment. If love gets boxed into this one tempory action, it's a guarantee fall out because it reduces her to just her physical self and her other connections ends up neglected. Waiting is a good opportunity to show control, stability patience and loyalty . =)
Something to think about... Maybe a food for thought? Do you love sex more than her? It's not about choosing one over the other. We all have those humanly desires to connect through sex and I'd be lying myself if I said I dont want it, lol. But do you idolize sex enough that it's all you can see her in that way, or do you want to love her soul enough that sex is more of a gift with her than a need? Feel me? Maybe? Ish?
Connection is such a strong foundation.
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I don't love sex more than I love her. I just don't want to jeopardize my happiness again. What if I wait until marriage and she only has sex with me on her terms? That will really make me leave. click to expand
Oh this is about you losing control
Op your afraid of your imaginary scenarios. Did that occur in your two year relationship yet still you claim love click to expand
you might be right. which is why I'm reevaluating the whole relationship all over again. When I was with her the last time, she asked me if the good outweigh the bad. I've been thinking about that question since and I'm starting to think the bad outweighed the good...or maybe I'm not ready to be in a relationship again. click to expand
Yet you were in another place then, worse off. Things are different now so you say with your depression. One thing I’ve learned about iyou Taurus one does not instill a single doubt because they will run wild with it n only focus on that negative. Lol
Why don’t you be an adult write a list of all your concerns sit down n talk to her n see what she says to them
You guys suck at communicating n never give the other a chance to a peace or rebuttal ur imaginary concerns click to expand
I've told her my concerns. The one and only thing that's holding us back is the sex. Every time I've brought it up she brushed it off like it wasn't a big deal to me. She says things like 'If I can wait then you can too,' or "It's really not that big of deal." Those comments makes me feel as if she doesn't care about my needs. click to expandclick to expand
You have yet to even attempt to prove yourself and show that you are worthy of her even talking to you right now.
It's the selfishness that's a turn off, especially to other earth signs.
I mean it can eventually erase all desire.
Its hard to be sexually attracted to an extremely selfish sex focused man.
Posted by lnana04What I need to know is if this whole disappearing thing I’ve noticed with some tauruses, is true. That they leave for their own reasons and expect you to be okay with it, because if so, I may have to cross them off my list-Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Ohhhh ur a Taurus sun/Capricorn moon.
This is all making sense now
I don't know.
My old Taurus just popped up 2 weeks ago after two years, and he's popping up with the same attitude. I don't think he sees marriage in me like this guy sees in his girl, but they do pop up AFTER they've done you wrong, expecting things to pick up where they left off. He hasn't even apologized yet for ignoring me, or getting in a relationship. Odd behavior.
He's a Taurus/Aqua moon.
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Posted by ImpulsvMaybe so, and funny you say that.Posted by lnana04It’s their pride ?Posted by Sunsetvirgo
Ohhhh ur a Taurus sun/Capricorn moon.
This is all making sense now
I don't know.
My old Taurus just popped up 2 weeks ago after two years, and he's popping up with the same attitude. I don't think he sees marriage in me like this guy sees in his girl, but they do pop up AFTER they've done you wrong, expecting things to pick up where they left off. He hasn't even apologized yet for ignoring me, or getting in a relationship. Odd behavior.
He's a Taurus/Aqua moon.
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If you just take him back they save face lol
Maybe once there that is the time to spring it on them lol but then they will leave again
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My Taurus friend disappeared around a time where he was doing bad too and in the process of losing his job, BUT he also got into a relationship shortly after his disappearance posting pics on facebook and ignored ALL of my texts. Not to mention, he lied and told me he was moving.
I just found as we talked two weeks ago that he found a better job and worked his way up in management, now he's back around. Thing is, I also just found out he got his own place and the girl AND her kids were living with him. Like they had a real relationship going whereas I couldn't get anything out of him. He made it a point to mention how he bought her a car and everything.
I couldn't hold it any longer and asked him today why he came back into my life and told him that I don't text him because I don't know his situation with his ex. In my mind he's trying to use me as a rebound, even if I'm just giving time. He said they still talk as friends, but don't hangout anymore. I asked him why is it that we couldn't do the same two years ago? Of course he lied and said because I didn't want to and it's been deflecting, denying, lying and yep...he's disappeared again...well he hasn't text back since I told him that I'm basically not moving forward with anything until he spill why he treated me so poorly. I admitted to him my part and apologized for it, and he let me take ALL the responsibility. I'm like wow! He really does want to save face and pretend he's done no wrong. His actions were sooo foul, and he came over the other day and talked about how I use to have more physical strength. Its like he knows it was foul and it affected me and instead of apologizing for it, I think he wants me to spill my feelings and hurt.
It's all just a bit mind-blowing really.
Posted by ImpulsvYes! And I almost hate that I went out with him last weekend, but I was expecting some form of an apology.
Agreed makes no sense
I mean to come around with no apologie
No sense why bother lol
I told him I'm not trying to ever get intimate with him in any way again, but at this point, until he can tell me exactly why he did what he did, I don't want to fake a friendship either. It's like there's absolutely no point to any of this, and all he's done is made feelings resurface when I was done just fine. Taurus male logic. I don't understand it.
You know they won't show, at-least not with any honesty lol.
Posted by ImpulsvThat's my part that I admitted. I told him that I noticed that he's more sensitive than I am and our emotional bond is strong with him being a bit more psychic, so I started to notice he would kind of pick up my thoughts, which they are usually pretty negative, and act accordingly. When he moved on, I WAS kind of thinking at the time that something needed to happen between us because it wasn't going anywhere. I didn't realize how hard it would be for me once it actually happened, so I admitted that I initiated a lot of the behavior with my thoughts. I asked him if that's how he saw the situation or if that was all in my head and he said "yeah, and you wouldn't stop thinking negatively and didn't want to change." I'm like okay, but you never admitted why I you treated me so poorly. I can take a lot of the responsibility, but he has to realize he never wanted to talk. I told him all I needed was reassurance, but couldn't get it because he wouldn't talk.
Maybe in the bast scenario tell him it is a little confusing why he has returned
You know as I typed this I realized they have a real fragile ego n hate being vulnerable
But yeah, they are very very sensitive.
I know he has A LOT to say, but I can't get it out of him, just how he can't get it out of me.
I know he has A LOT to say, but I can't get it out of him, just how he can't get it out of me.
Posted by ImpulsvI don't think he takes me seriously. The first picture he sent me was a nude.Posted by lnana04Ha he admitted psychic connectionPosted by Impulsv
Maybe in the bast scenario tell him it is a little confusing why he has returned
You know as I typed this I realized they have a real fragile ego n hate being vulnerable
That's my part that I admitted. I told him that I noticed that he's more sensitive than I am and our emotional bond is strong with him being a bit more psychic, so I started to notice he would kind of pick up my thoughts, which they are usually pretty negative, and act accordingly. When he moved on, I WAS kind of thinking at the time that something needed to happen between us because it wasn't going anywhere. I didn't realize how hard it would be for me once it actually happened, so I admitted that I initiated a lot of the behavior with my thoughts. I asked him if that's how he saw the situation or if that was all in my head and he said "yeah, and you wouldn't stop thinking negatively and didn't want to change." I'm like okay, but you never admitted why I you treated me so poorly. I can take a lot of the responsibility, but he has to realize he never wanted to talk. I told him all I needed was reassurance, but couldn't get it because he wouldn't talk. click to expand
Had that too,
Mmmmm if you think he’s worth it
There has to be a compromise or a way to make this a win win
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I lost my virginity to him, but still...we were more like fwb.
The other night Sza "The Weekend" song came on and he kept going on and on about the lyrics.
Then Drake's song where he raps "I shouldn't have to f $ ck for free" came on and he was all into it.
I was slightly dancing to it like I didn't know what he was trying to hint, and he turned it down and let out a deep *sigh* lol, smh.
I think in his mind he see or saw me as easy, and probably wants me to demand more from him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he says he did all that for his ex because she demanded more. Idk
Or, I wouldn't be surprised if he's back around just for sex.
I just have no interest in any of it. In my mind I shouldn't have to demand for a guy to treat me right and it's too much energy on someone that, in the end, still seems unpredictable.
Posted by ImpulsvYeah...he's at that level, with me it seems.Posted by lnana04Don’t waste a second more if this is how he’s actingPosted by ImpulsvPosted by lnana04Posted by Impulsv
Maybe in the bast scenario tell him it is a little confusing why he has returned
You know as I typed this I realized they have a real fragile ego n hate being vulnerable
That's my part that I admitted. I told him that I noticed that he's more sensitive than I am and our emotional bond is strong with him being a bit more psychic, so I started to notice he would kind of pick up my thoughts, which they are usually pretty negative, and act accordingly. When he moved on, I WAS kind of thinking at the time that something needed to happen between us because it wasn't going anywhere. I didn't realize how hard it would be for me once it actually happened, so I admitted that I initiated a lot of the behavior with my thoughts. I asked him if that's how he saw the situation or if that was all in my head and he said "yeah, and you wouldn't stop thinking negatively and didn't want to change." I'm like okay, but you never admitted why I you treated me so poorly. I can take a lot of the responsibility, but he has to realize he never wanted to talk. I told him all I needed was reassurance, but couldn't get it because he wouldn't talk. click to expand
Ha he admitted psychic connection
Had that too,
Mmmmm if you think he’s worth it
There has to be a compromise or a way to make this a win win
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I don't think he takes me seriously. The first picture he sent me was a nude.
I lost my virginity to him, but still...we were more like fwb.
The other night Sza "The Weekend" song came on and he kept going on and on about the lyrics.
Then Drake's song where he raps "I shouldn't have to f $ ck for free" came on and he was all into it.
I was slightly dancing to it like I didn't know what he was trying to hint, and he turned it down and let out a deep *sigh* lol, smh.
I think in his mind he see or saw me as easy, and probably wants me to demand more from him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he says he did all that for his ex because she demanded more. Idk
Or, I wouldn't be surprised if he's back around just for sex.
I just have no interest in any of it. In my mind I shouldn't have to demand for a guy to treat me right and it's too much energy on someone that, in the end, still seems unpredictable. click to expand
He is just at that level
Even though it seems like he gave the other more he is still at that level click to expandclick to expand
It's like what do you want from me?
It's just crazy how I've been doing fine now I have all of this emotion that has bubbled up to the surface that I don't know what to do with.
I have anxiety and I'm a scorpio venus(if that matters) so I'm just a ball of emotion right now and it's been that way since yesterday.
I had buried it deep, and even thought I got rid of it, now it seems I have to go through the process over again.
I'm almost angry.
Posted by ImpulsvMaybe so.Posted by lnana04Posted by ImpulsvPosted by lnana04Posted by ImpulsvPosted by lnana04Posted by Impulsv
Maybe in the bast scenario tell him it is a little confusing why he has returned
You know as I typed this I realized they have a real fragile ego n hate being vulnerable
That's my part that I admitted. I told him that I noticed that he's more sensitive than I am and our emotional bond is strong with him being a bit more psychic, so I started to notice he would kind of pick up my thoughts, which they are usually pretty negative, and act accordingly. When he moved on, I WAS kind of thinking at the time that something needed to happen between us because it wasn't going anywhere. I didn't realize how hard it would be for me once it actually happened, so I admitted that I initiated a lot of the behavior with my thoughts. I asked him if that's how he saw the situation or if that was all in my head and he said "yeah, and you wouldn't stop thinking negatively and didn't want to change." I'm like okay, but you never admitted why I you treated me so poorly. I can take a lot of the responsibility, but he has to realize he never wanted to talk. I told him all I needed was reassurance, but couldn't get it because he wouldn't talk. click to expand
Ha he admitted psychic connection
Had that too,
Mmmmm if you think he’s worth it
There has to be a compromise or a way to make this a win win
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I don't think he takes me seriously. The first picture he sent me was a nude.
I lost my virginity to him, but still...we were more like fwb.
The other night Sza "The Weekend" song came on and he kept going on and on about the lyrics.
Then Drake's song where he raps "I shouldn't have to f $ ck for free" came on and he was all into it.
I was slightly dancing to it like I didn't know what he was trying to hint, and he turned it down and let out a deep *sigh* lol, smh.
I think in his mind he see or saw me as easy, and probably wants me to demand more from him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he says he did all that for his ex because she demanded more. Idk
Or, I wouldn't be surprised if he's back around just for sex.
I just have no interest in any of it. In my mind I shouldn't have to demand for a guy to treat me right and it's too much energy on someone that, in the end, still seems unpredictable. click to expand
Don’t waste a second more if this is how he’s acting
He is just at that level
Even though it seems like he gave the other more he is still at that level click to expand
Yeah...he's at that level, with me it seems.
It's like what do you want from me?
It's just crazy how I've been doing fine now I have all of this emotion that has bubbled up to the surface that I don't know what to do with.
I have anxiety and I'm a scorpio venus(if that matters) so I'm just a ball of emotion right now and it's been that way since yesterday.
I had buried it deep, and even thought I got rid of it, now it seems I have to go through the process over again.
I'm almost angry. click to expand
treetrunk
I get it went through it for four years back n forth
I guess best to never let them in again
They won’t change
Maybe Taurus male can explain why the come back over n over for even if for sex
When the can just move on with new ones
It’s our fault we let them back we hope change? click to expandclick to expand
And its not anger I feel, but more of intense emotions and a sadness, which I'd assume the sadness is because of the hope of something different? Like we really had potential, which is probably why they come back. *sigh* Idk,
Disappointing indeed.
Thank you so much Impulsv for reading and listening to me vent and giving advice.
I can say that if you find yourself thinking of yours a lot, or even feeling him at times, most likely he's doing the same. This was the second time he disappeared for long lengths of time, and through out both he'd still cross my mind constantly. The return kind of confirms that it was mutual. I'm not sure how often yours cross your mind, but I bet it's a mutual thing too.
Thank you so much Impulsv for reading and listening to me vent and giving advice.
I can say that if you find yourself thinking of yours a lot, or even feeling him at times, most likely he's doing the same. This was the second time he disappeared for long lengths of time, and through out both he'd still cross my mind constantly. The return kind of confirms that it was mutual. I'm not sure how often yours cross your mind, but I bet it's a mutual thing too.
Posted by ImpulsvI can guarantee he's thinking of you a lot too.Posted by lnana04A lot of pain
Disappointing indeed.
Thank you so much Impulsv for reading and listening to me vent and giving advice.
I can say that if you find yourself thinking of yours a lot, or even feeling him at times, most likely he's doing the same. This was the second time he disappeared for long lengths of time, and through out both he'd still cross my mind constantly. The return kind of confirms that it was mutual. I'm not sure how often yours cross your mind, but I bet it's a mutual thing too.
And daily he crosses my mind
My only confirmation was admitting were a soul connection
So much for that
In his words” it’s a cruel cosmic joke” click to expandclick to expand
They don't seem to mind jumping into something else with unfinished business.
I think it's dangerous and deceptive to do that.
You may not hear from him soon, but he's most likely going to pop up again down the line.
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