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Terrace House, reality tv Japanese.
I LOVE that show! It's so addictive!
It gets a bit cutthroat, but nothing like American television! ?
What I find funny is that most of the time when a girl is asked why she likes a guy, she almost always claims "he's easy to talk to." I remember only one girl who actually admitted it was because he was good-looking. And almost all of them are models! 😆 It's like the fast-food job here in America.
I am waiting on the next season I'm Hawaii!
It gets a bit cutthroat, but nothing like American television! ?
What I find funny is that most of the time when a girl is asked why she likes a guy, she almost always claims "he's easy to talk to." I remember only one girl who actually admitted it was because he was good-looking. And almost all of them are models! 😆 It's like the fast-food job here in America.
I am waiting on the next season I'm Hawaii!
Posted by LillyPetalI haven't seen the Hawaii one. it's called the aloha episodes I guess.lol
I LOVE that show! It's so addictive!
It gets a bit cutthroat, but nothing like American television! ?
What I find funny is that most of the time when a girl is asked why she likes a guy, she almost always claims "he's easy to talk to." I remember only one girl who actually admitted it was because he was good-looking. And almost all of them are models! 😆 It's like the fast-food job here in America.
I am waiting on the next season I'm Hawaii!
anyway have you watched the entire season of this??
I watched the majority of it, and I've even did their astrology charts.
and why they didn't work or why they were attracted to eachother and so forth...it's very very interesting!!!!
this is the episode of....
SPOILERS...
the hat designer, who is a Libra sun/Aries moon/ Gemini mars/Libra venus/ (note: they are all Capricorn stelliums of Neptune, Uranus ect) female, named, Arisa, Oct. 5, 1990
who was Immediately interested in the half Iranian/half Japanese Arman, who is an aspiring firefighter.
he is Sagittarius sun/Sagittarius Venus/ Gemini venus/Cancer moon.
then all of a sudden when he wants to get SERIOUS, she says I can't be in a relationship.....whoa...
what do you think? I hope people watch this and contribute.
then there is the meat incident...omg!!!!
Capricorn/Sagitttarius cusper hairstylist who is SUPER SENSITIVE sweet guy, with scorpio venus /cancer moon started crying cause his so-called insensitive inconsiderate girlfriend who is ....
*drumroll*....an Aquarius sun/Aquarius venus/Libra moon/ Capricorn mars....allowed his gift from a client which is a bunch of delicious meat from a restaurant eaten up by all the rest of the terrace house members.(with exception of a couple who weren't interested or not there)
but omg...how insensitive!!! he started crying!!! but she was soooo terrible and even me and my man was like...how terrible of her.
but lots of other people thought that was too petty but it's not to me. it's insensitive!!
anyway they're all young and she I hope LEARNED from this lesson. I don't know why but they stayed together and he's a cancer moonie with a libra moonie?? I hope to goodness sakes she is more sensitive and will give him some sensitivity. lol
and omg!!! no wonder they clashed....she is venus aquarius and he's scorpio venus? jesus Christ...poor guy. he was crying!! and I notice he was super LOYAL to her too....
anyway..... I hope they all learn. and they may not stay together...but she seems to attract Scorpio energy cause the first guy who liked her immediately was a Scorpio sun/Sag venus/ Aquarius moon.
lol
gee I wonder why..
I've also been watching Terrace house ALOHA state...
omg...
the Aquarius sun/Leo moon/Pisces mars gal....
she started crying when she got stressed out!!! pisces does NOT want to stress..that is so true. and she told the girls she can't take it and cried!!
and ran to her room to recharge!!!
and her bossiness came out (the leo moon) in one of the episodes. omg!!!
lol hilarious.
and guess what?? you know who was interested in her a lot— dear looordddd...astrology is so much fun...
the Leo sun/Virgo mars /Sag moon guy. lmao!!!
omg...
the Aquarius sun/Leo moon/Pisces mars gal....
she started crying when she got stressed out!!! pisces does NOT want to stress..that is so true. and she told the girls she can't take it and cried!!
and ran to her room to recharge!!!
and her bossiness came out (the leo moon) in one of the episodes. omg!!!
lol hilarious.
and guess what?? you know who was interested in her a lot— dear looordddd...astrology is so much fun...
the Leo sun/Virgo mars /Sag moon guy. lmao!!!
oh this guy reviews all the episodes...
this is TRUE NERD. lol
my man even said...who the hell does that? lmao
puh lease.
anyway he also reviewed Terrace house in the city. Tokyo.
and there was an episode where there was a Leo sun/cancer mercury/Virgo venus/Leo mars/Aries moon girl who was very very very interested in the Scorpio sun/Sag moon/Aries mars/Libra venus.
but he told her he has a girlfriend and she started crying!!!
then was very very COMPETITIVE with the two girls (the two girls she was mean to, are the Aqua sun/libra moon gal and the Cancer sun/Aries moon chick too) she made them cry!!
this guy reviewed her, and said that she's mean!!!
this is TRUE NERD. lol
my man even said...who the hell does that? lmao
puh lease.
anyway he also reviewed Terrace house in the city. Tokyo.
and there was an episode where there was a Leo sun/cancer mercury/Virgo venus/Leo mars/Aries moon girl who was very very very interested in the Scorpio sun/Sag moon/Aries mars/Libra venus.
but he told her he has a girlfriend and she started crying!!!
then was very very COMPETITIVE with the two girls (the two girls she was mean to, are the Aqua sun/libra moon gal and the Cancer sun/Aries moon chick too) she made them cry!!
this guy reviewed her, and said that she's mean!!!
there is a new season. 3rd,
and oh my god...the people are really exhibiting their placements. 😆 😛
there's this guy who is a Gemini sun cusper near Cancer sun Gemini venus, Cancer mars and he really acts SUPER EMOTIONAL and he really cries but people (the commentors) think that he is too much. always crying but it is genuine. however, he is always dating ALL the women, four or five so far until they leave and new ones show up!! this is the typical Gemini Venus love play here. 😆
he wants so desperately to find the "one" and fall into a DEEP love. However he is so confused because he hasn't felt that deep love. he has been dating all the women cause he likes all of their personalities, younger older, student or worker, any of them are all cool to him.
he was really good with the Libra girl, (i have to do her chart) and the Libra girl started going for the Scorpio guy, and they kissed and stuff. lol But their love style s and dating style s were "off" she was disappointed in the stuff that he liked, and he wanted her to be more outgoing and outdoorsy.
and oh my god...the people are really exhibiting their placements. 😆 😛
there's this guy who is a Gemini sun cusper near Cancer sun Gemini venus, Cancer mars and he really acts SUPER EMOTIONAL and he really cries but people (the commentors) think that he is too much. always crying but it is genuine. however, he is always dating ALL the women, four or five so far until they leave and new ones show up!! this is the typical Gemini Venus love play here. 😆
he wants so desperately to find the "one" and fall into a DEEP love. However he is so confused because he hasn't felt that deep love. he has been dating all the women cause he likes all of their personalities, younger older, student or worker, any of them are all cool to him.
he was really good with the Libra girl, (i have to do her chart) and the Libra girl started going for the Scorpio guy, and they kissed and stuff. lol But their love style s and dating style s were "off" she was disappointed in the stuff that he liked, and he wanted her to be more outgoing and outdoorsy.
this guy and girl (he's an Aquarius/Capricorn cusper january 20) and she's a Virgo
they're dating and they hit it off really good and right away. he never wavered his devotion to her no matter how many prettier girls came and went. He was like, this is the one. all through the months.
he's just more laid back and not super serious about career right now, he's only 18 or 19? but wanted a serious girl.
they're dating and they hit it off really good and right away. he never wavered his devotion to her no matter how many prettier girls came and went. He was like, this is the one. all through the months.
he's just more laid back and not super serious about career right now, he's only 18 or 19? but wanted a serious girl.
ALOHA EPISDOES HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON NETFLIX—?
ZOMG!!!!!! *cancles lyfe to binge-watch show*
ZOMG!!!!!! *cancles lyfe to binge-watch show*
the libra girls who show up are always so pretty. lol she's the 2nd libra i've seen, the first one was at Tokyo house.
she is with the Scorpio athlete.
that's the libra in the video.
and omg Aries women, the first one i've seen is a bit more whiny and attention seeking and keeps to herself, but her ambition was really SPOT ON ..the most ambitious of them all there, she was craving to be a doctor while some girls were on undecided, or just wanna be a shopgirl or model casually or be a waitress.
the 2nd Aries woman i've seen is on Terrace house Hawaii, and omg...AMBITIOUS and SUPER smart...
valedvictorian too. Real estate agent in her early twenties, and soo beautiful.
and omg. she told off the Gemini/Cancer cusper, told him OFF. said, Dont date me unless you want me only for ME.
😄 😆 Cheering for that. hahaha.
it put him in an embaressing position but he laughed it off.
she is with the Scorpio athlete.
that's the libra in the video.
and omg Aries women, the first one i've seen is a bit more whiny and attention seeking and keeps to herself, but her ambition was really SPOT ON ..the most ambitious of them all there, she was craving to be a doctor while some girls were on undecided, or just wanna be a shopgirl or model casually or be a waitress.
the 2nd Aries woman i've seen is on Terrace house Hawaii, and omg...AMBITIOUS and SUPER smart...
valedvictorian too. Real estate agent in her early twenties, and soo beautiful.
and omg. she told off the Gemini/Cancer cusper, told him OFF. said, Dont date me unless you want me only for ME.
😄 😆 Cheering for that. hahaha.
it put him in an embaressing position but he laughed it off.
Posted by LillyPetalNEW ONES!!!
ALOHA EPISDOES HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON NETFLIX—?
ZOMG!!!!!! *cancles lyfe to binge-watch show*
go go go!!!
i forgot to put SPOILERS a bit on my posts. they're tidbits but you'll see!! 😄
omg..
the Scorpio guy this guy here, is an Aquarius moon, Libra venus, virgo mars, jupiter capricorn, uranus aquarius... and he's with the libra girl, they hit it off and dating.
she's Scorpio moon libra sun, virgo venus, leo mars, libra mercury.
lmao what the hell? the astrology is so spot on, which is why they are dating 😄 😆
the Scorpio guy this guy here, is an Aquarius moon, Libra venus, virgo mars, jupiter capricorn, uranus aquarius... and he's with the libra girl, they hit it off and dating.
she's Scorpio moon libra sun, virgo venus, leo mars, libra mercury.
lmao what the hell? the astrology is so spot on, which is why they are dating 😄 😆
The Aquarius sun/Virgo moon commentor on the show really likes Guy Sato (the Scorpio/Aquarius moon) lol
no wonder...
and people have made love youtube stuff on the Libra girl with Scorpio moon/Virgo venus/Leo mars
with Guy Sato, Scorpio/ with Aquarius moon, Libra venus, Virgo mars, Jupiter Capricorn....he's a dedicated athlete.
she just has to learn to live with him being a professional althlete, loving the ocean and sand and outdoors cause that's what he loves alot.
no wonder...
and people have made love youtube stuff on the Libra girl with Scorpio moon/Virgo venus/Leo mars
with Guy Sato, Scorpio/ with Aquarius moon, Libra venus, Virgo mars, Jupiter Capricorn....he's a dedicated athlete.
she just has to learn to live with him being a professional althlete, loving the ocean and sand and outdoors cause that's what he loves alot.
i did the Aries gal chart....super cool!!! she's Taurus venus, Gemini mars, Cancer moon. aries mercury
she told off that Gemini cusper, to STOP dating every gal cause you're not considering their feelings and that if you want to date me , she said, then only ME! or else do NOT ask me for a date..
SMACK DOWN.
she was miss hawaii, beautiful and smart.
she told off that Gemini cusper, to STOP dating every gal cause you're not considering their feelings and that if you want to date me , she said, then only ME! or else do NOT ask me for a date..
SMACK DOWN.
she was miss hawaii, beautiful and smart.
i have a feeling she likes the gemini guy with cancer mars though. lol
so i think they will end up together.
hm but not sure really....
it could go either way.
he really REALLY wants love,
but can't grab hold of it.
so she is the type, i think, to really smack him up. lol
so i think they will end up together.
hm but not sure really....
it could go either way.
he really REALLY wants love,
but can't grab hold of it.
so she is the type, i think, to really smack him up. lol
Posted by lisabethur8Hahaha, no worriesPosted by LillyPetalNEW ONES!!!
ALOHA EPISDOES HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON NETFLIX—?
ZOMG!!!!!! *cancles lyfe to binge-watch show*
go go go!!!
i forgot to put SPOILERS a bit on my posts. they're tidbits but you'll see!! 😄click to expand
I just saw this thread was bumped (I had completely forgot about it!), so I clicked, saw "ALOHA" written multiple times, and scrolled down to ask if the episodes are up.
I'M SO EXCITED! 😆
Posted by DonJohnthat .... gemini venus. 😆
interesting.
there's this japanese girl at the Whole Foods here. 1 of the most beautiful asian women i've ever seen. when i say that you know it's legit. anyway, we always make eye contact whenever i'm there.
i went to pick up some groceries and she checked me out. we say hi to each other..... after i paid the bill she looks right at me and goes, "how are you?"
felt so awkward cus it was after the transaction. I went full autist and just grabbed the bag then beamed out the door. lmao sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiit
damn. i've lost my mojo.
perhaps it's a good thing lol
OHIO! GOZAIYAMAAAASSSSu
Posted by LillyPetalPosted by lisabethur8Hahaha, no worriesPosted by LillyPetalNEW ONES!!!
ALOHA EPISDOES HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON NETFLIX—?
ZOMG!!!!!! *cancles lyfe to binge-watch show*
go go go!!!
i forgot to put SPOILERS a bit on my posts. they're tidbits but you'll see!! 😄
I just saw this thread was bumped (I had completely forgot about it!), so I clicked, saw "ALOHA" written multiple times, and scrolled down to ask if the episodes are up.
I'M SO EXCITED! 😆click to expand
dammit...i so want season FOUR already!!
😛 😄
Not all Japanese
are short in height.
If you watch show,
please culture self.
Do not watch with
empty mind. sigh.
are short in height.
If you watch show,
please culture self.
Do not watch with
empty mind. sigh.
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Posted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
click to expand
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
click to expand
i read that online at wikipedia.
but i also saw that in real life too, with half half individuals, at school where they dont know where they should belong.
so i saw it, experienced that in real life and also confirmed online with what is said.
however on terrace house, they dont seem to mind having alot of hafu's there.
but i think it's due to the media and being on television. Plus it is now very popular in westernized countries.
Posted by lisabethur8Being hafu is popular in West?Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
i read that online at wikipedia.
but i also saw that in real life too, with half half individuals, at school where they dont know where they should belong.
so i saw it, experienced that in real life and also confirmed online with what is said.
however on terrace house, they dont seem to mind having alot of hafu's there.
but i think it's due to the media and being on television. Plus it is now very popular in westernized countries.
click to expand
Or the terebi show is in West?
Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8Being hafu is popular in West?Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
i read that online at wikipedia.
but i also saw that in real life too, with half half individuals, at school where they dont know where they should belong.
so i saw it, experienced that in real life and also confirmed online with what is said.
however on terrace house, they dont seem to mind having alot of hafu's there.
but i think it's due to the media and being on television. Plus it is now very popular in westernized countries.
Or the terebi show is in West?click to expand
the television series, i read up that it's getting really popular.
so far, in the tokyo series, i have seen a handful hafu's.
and in the aloha series, it's pretty common.
Posted by lisabethur8Remember, it is terebi.Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8Being hafu is popular in West?Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
i read that online at wikipedia.
but i also saw that in real life too, with half half individuals, at school where they dont know where they should belong.
so i saw it, experienced that in real life and also confirmed online with what is said.
however on terrace house, they dont seem to mind having alot of hafu's there.
but i think it's due to the media and being on television. Plus it is now very popular in westernized countries.
Or the terebi show is in West?
the television series, i read up that it's getting really popular.
so far, in the tokyo series, i have seen a handful hafu's.
and in the aloha series, it's pretty common.
click to expand
You still have so much
to learn about Japanese.
Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8Remember, it is terebi.Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8Being hafu is popular in West?Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
i read that online at wikipedia.
but i also saw that in real life too, with half half individuals, at school where they dont know where they should belong.
so i saw it, experienced that in real life and also confirmed online with what is said.
however on terrace house, they dont seem to mind having alot of hafu's there.
but i think it's due to the media and being on television. Plus it is now very popular in westernized countries.
Or the terebi show is in West?
the television series, i read up that it's getting really popular.
so far, in the tokyo series, i have seen a handful hafu's.
and in the aloha series, it's pretty common.
You still have so much
to learn about Japanese.click to expand
arigatou, sensei
Posted by lisabethur8どういたしまして.Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8Remember, it is terebi.Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8Being hafu is popular in West?Posted by TachibanaSanPosted by lisabethur8What does her sun have to do?Posted by TachibanaSanbecause she is an aquarius sun. lol
Why did you put
a banner of hafu?
Not full Japanese?
otherwise, yeah i thought of that afterward. that she isn't full japanese.
Half white is not fully Japanese.
Hafus do have a very hard time
fitting into Japanese society.
They are not accepted as full
by the Japanese traditionalist.
Much discrimination happens.
i read that online at wikipedia.
but i also saw that in real life too, with half half individuals, at school where they dont know where they should belong.
so i saw it, experienced that in real life and also confirmed online with what is said.
however on terrace house, they dont seem to mind having alot of hafu's there.
but i think it's due to the media and being on television. Plus it is now very popular in westernized countries.
Or the terebi show is in West?
the television series, i read up that it's getting really popular.
so far, in the tokyo series, i have seen a handful hafu's.
and in the aloha series, it's pretty common.
You still have so much
to learn about Japanese.
arigatou, sensei
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