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@degenerate_ingenue "YES! sometimes I feel like he doesn't know what to say. he is a bit awkward emotionally & intimately. whenever he reveals stuff about himself he closes off for awhile. the first time he said that to me, the next day I saw him he just blushed, said hi and walked in the other direction to talk to someone else. every time he'd say that to me, the following interaction we'd have he'd turn pink/slightly avoid me but was still friendly, just awkward."

That is his sun sign all the way... reveal and hide/withdraw.
true!! I've always noticed that, even with my dad. that's why I always kind of knew he was serious, but I thought it would pass with time. I never really took it to heart. the more he brings it up more than 6 months later it is starting to make me really analyze the situation.

hes a good guy. just has a very interesting way of expressing himself. lmao. he's a character 😆

I'll always appreciate and accept him regardless of his outbursts that has me analyzing everything to the nitty gritty. Virgo moon on overdrive combined with detective Scorpio tendencies = mental exhaustion
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a tip, which i think you might already be aware of but in case you are not..

Aquas say and do things for shock value. Not with malicious intentions, it's just something we do. I would chalk all this get you pregnant talk to shock value and what tiz was getting at, primal urges.

Maybe he is testing the water with you to gauge your reaction... to see if he will get something other than the wait.. wut? reaction.
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@degenerate_ingenue "YES! sometimes I feel like he doesn't know what to say. he is a bit awkward emotionally & intimately. whenever he reveals stuff about himself he closes off for awhile. the first time he said that to me, the next day I saw him he just blushed, said hi and walked in the other direction to talk to someone else. every time he'd say that to me, the following interaction we'd have he'd turn pink/slightly avoid me but was still friendly, just awkward."

That is his sun sign all the way... reveal and hide/withdraw.
true!! I've always noticed that, even with my dad. that's why I always kind of knew he was serious, but I thought it would pass with time. I never really took it to heart. the more he brings it up more than 6 months later it is starting to make me really analyze the situation.

hes a good guy. just has a very interesting way of expressing himself. lmao. he's a character 😆

I'll always appreciate and accept him regardless of his outbursts that has me analyzing everything to the nitty gritty. Virgo moon on overdrive combined with detective Scorpio tendencies = mental exhaustion
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in a more clearly written way.. hes got YOU thinking about him....
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@degenerate_ingenue "YES! sometimes I feel like he doesn't know what to say. he is a bit awkward emotionally & intimately. whenever he reveals stuff about himself he closes off for awhile. the first time he said that to me, the next day I saw him he just blushed, said hi and walked in the other direction to talk to someone else. every time he'd say that to me, the following interaction we'd have he'd turn pink/slightly avoid me but was still friendly, just awkward."

That is his sun sign all the way... reveal and hide/withdraw.
true!! I've always noticed that, even with my dad. that's why I always kind of knew he was serious, but I thought it would pass with time. I never really took it to heart. the more he brings it up more than 6 months later it is starting to make me really analyze the situation.

hes a good guy. just has a very interesting way of expressing himself. lmao. he's a character 😆

I'll always appreciate and accept him regardless of his outbursts that has me analyzing everything to the nitty gritty. Virgo moon on overdrive combined with detective Scorpio tendencies = mental exhaustion
a tip, which i think you might already be aware of but in case you are not..

Aquas say and do things for shock value. Not with malicious intentions, it's just something we do. I would chalk all this get you pregnant talk to shock value and what tiz was getting at, primal urges.

Maybe he is testing the water with you to gauge your reaction... to see if he will get something other then the wait.. wut? reaction.
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very very true. another reason why I never took it too seriously. when I first heard him say it I almost wanted to laugh but used the wait what response instead just to keep it safe and not seem rude. the shock value was prominent that's for sure. totally unexpected. he expressed his liking for me previously but I just kept my distance and also didn't take that too much to heart. but then he went from 0 to 100 in a blink.

I guess the real shock value came from repeating it. only the future will tell. definitely can't dwell on it. but I'd like to know what it's all about. people are fascinating. everyone is so different with their responses to life. keeps me curious on the regular. not curious enough to experiment with pregnancy though LOL. no baby momma drama in the future for me. ever. I think I like traveling too much to ever have kids.
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@degenerate_ingenue "YES! sometimes I feel like he doesn't know what to say. he is a bit awkward emotionally & intimately. whenever he reveals stuff about himself he closes off for awhile. the first time he said that to me, the next day I saw him he just blushed, said hi and walked in the other direction to talk to someone else. every time he'd say that to me, the following interaction we'd have he'd turn pink/slightly avoid me but was still friendly, just awkward."

That is his sun sign all the way... reveal and hide/withdraw.
true!! I've always noticed that, even with my dad. that's why I always kind of knew he was serious, but I thought it would pass with time. I never really took it to heart. the more he brings it up more than 6 months later it is starting to make me really analyze the situation.

hes a good guy. just has a very interesting way of expressing himself. lmao. he's a character 😆

I'll always appreciate and accept him regardless of his outbursts that has me analyzing everything to the nitty gritty. Virgo moon on overdrive combined with detective Scorpio tendencies = mental exhaustion
in a more clearly written way.. hes got YOU thinking about him....
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YES. I think he's always known I was overly analytical. it seemed like a ploy. it seemed oddly genuine. it seemed strange. all together it seemed like a lot of things, and he knows my personality. he most likely knew I'd want to know what the motive was. it "seems" this. it "seems" that. we used to work together so he knows how I think and how I work I'd say. he knows how I deal with people (we worked retail together- he no longer works there). operation successful. I am the epitome of an overthinker, wondering the reason behind everything when there may be no reason at all! I'm like that in everything. I go with the flow, yet I still want to know the answers that may not even exist
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This seems normal to me. I've felt this way about women. No I did not masturbate to them. Him saying it repeatedly is what's abnormal - then it becomes just a ploy for your attention as if he lacks anything else to do/say.
Tiz, do you think biologically speaking on some primal level, all men are turned on by the thought of getting women pregnant? The urge to spread their seed far and wide. Furthermore, I noticed you said you've felt this way about "women" and not specifically "the woman that I loved/loved"

All of the men I've been with and have been friends with have been terrified and turned off by the idea of impregnating their S.O. ‚
Yeah it was a new thing for me. It's happened with two women so far. I think once you peak to a certain age it's just coded within you to react like that to a certain woman that strikes up that vibe. Some men mature earlier, I was a late bloomer. Some of my friends described this feeling a while back when we were mid-20s and I had no idea what they were talking about then, now I know.
My next question was to try to explain "that vibe", is there a common physical characteristic that you see about a woman, or is it just an energy that you feel?

I read an article that men subconsciously are always sensing and separating out the ideal "mate" in social situations, and are usually drawn to the women with large breasts and hips. Truth?
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that would be interesting. I'm normally single regardless and have small breasts and I'm very thin.... my metabolism is so fast that I gain nothing. I've been 110 lb at 5'7" since I was somewhere in the age range of 16-18. I'm now 22. I can eat everything and gain absolutely nothing. my wrists are the same size as they were since first grade. lmfao if that's a true statement then it explains EVERYTHING for me! plus I don't wear makeup that often.

that's such an interesting analysis, and if it's true that's even more intriguing. strange how the subconscious works
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I can see if I can find the article. I think it was also in the same study where they had twin women wearing two different colored dresses in a bar, and the men ALWAYS approached the woman who was in the red dress vs the other colors! There is something subconscious going on in men's heads, biologically coded in their brains to select certain women over others. Times have changed though I think that desire still remains to most.

I feel your pain, but I am on the opposite side of the spectrum 😢 I can gain 5 pounds in one weekend and it all goes to my boobs, stomach, or hips, it's really depressing. My dad only dates women who are around 100 pounds, so there were a lot of self esteem issues growing up for my sister and I. The women in our families have always been on the "plus size" side with huge boobs and hips. I would trade you in a heartbeat, or at least allow some of my weight to go to you lol 😄
Never trust psychological studies: conclusions are drawn way too quickly or even manipulated (due to ignorance, wishful thinking or performance pressure) and when (if ever) they get repeated they always yield different results.
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actually yes. but his behavior is unstable. so it is too frustrating. I would. I've always supported him, and we share similar world viewpoints. but I don't push the issue. we got in an argument once and stated "you're not my girlfriend." I responded with "when did I ever say I was".

the energy is very back and forth. that's the main reason why I don't understand it. then again, he may not even understan
Very interesting...it sounds like he's one move away from checkmating you but he has no clue 😆
lmao! I still don't really want kids though 😛
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Ohhh c’mon, I’m pretty sure scoliosis won’t stop you😛
Anyway you know what’s funny? That you pretty much like everything about him, you just wish, which is completely understandable, he was more confident. It really is the only thing preventing the two of you from being together. The impregnating fantasies are really just a desire for physical intimacy, that’s all we crave at that age.

He needs to man up and be more resolute in order for you to like him more, but he’s insecure so he’s afraid you’re going to reject him. He doesn’t know you’d be willing to date him if he were stabler emotionally.

He’s stuck, like 80% of the nice guys in their late teen/early twenties, in a pretty common dynamic we’ve all been through. While she’s waiting for you to take control of the situation you don’t know how to push your limits yet and be a man. I can tell you it takes a lot of courage to get out of the shifting sands the first time.

At a certain point he’s going to get there and it could be with you or with someone else, in any case you would still be remembered because you've helped him, the nice guy, grow.

It's karmic in many ways.
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@Palerio lmao except he is turning 28 in a couple weeks 😆

I'm the young one here.

but our mutual Libra friend (who Aqua is currently not friends with) said he has progressed backwards. Said he was always nice and open, did the right thing. Their friends started getting into drugs and the Aqua followed. The Libra kind of took another route and lost closeness to them. He said he was always friends with the Aqua, but he watched his backward progression. The Libra said he himself did drugs but grew out of it (he's almost 30). He said the Aqua was the opposite. He avoided them and had a friendly and soft personality, but then he started getting into drugs around 24-25 and altered his personality to seem colder and harder. The Libra feels bad for him, saying he lost himself trying to appease people who don't even have goals. The Leeb is the reason the Aqua went back to college, telling him it would be good for him and change his life for the better. He's now going to graduate in May.

It's been interesting. I have seen both sides of him. To me it seems like he wants to identify with being cold outwardly, but when his feelings are hurt he really dramatizes it and tries to appear hard yet you can feel the pain and hurt radiating from him. Sensitive to a fault.

He is nearly at his Saturn return point. I would say personally I do like and care for him, but he is so lost that it is hard to know what I want. He hides who he is to be someone he's not. He does hate rejection though. I remember I had been ignoring him for awhile, and he lashed out as me as a defense mechanism. His words were venomous and his expression was full of anger. I later told him I didn't want him in my life if he thinks it's okay to behave like that for no clearly defined reason. Then he apologized, explained himself and tried getting a response from me. He sent three separate long and detailed messages later within different time frames. I waited a week to reply and forgive him.

I think his main issue is being/appearing vulnerable. If he gets anything out of this at all, I just hope he learns to accept himself and be himself. I think I have learned a lot from knowing him too.