lisabeth
@lisabethur8
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Posted by zerofromouterspaceguess you aren't a millionaire or billionaire huh?
It matters cause they are parasites. Unless you're walking the checkbook up to the altar, then their liars, too.


Posted by zerofromouterspacewell when I hear a man saying that about a woman, it makes me think he's really a scumbag, because he has to put women down for choosing a wealthy man.
I don't really care about money. It's relative to point of view.
Posted by AneemAum I like women who write romances and relationships like that of Jane Austen....
I would be naive to assume that I don't have to live up to certain's expectations from the billionaires/millionaires and can have freedom to speak up my mind because usually those millionaires would want a throphy wife instead a real human being.
And I think there must be a sense of strong control from them if I get them to pay everything for me and I don't like to be controlled. I choose freedom over immense amount of money, really.
Some women value comfort more than anything and I don't think it's wrong. It's their choice.
But if I am to look up to a woman, i would like to be more like Ayu Utami, a local author in my country whose novels have been translated into 7 languages, and won a few international contest. Freedom of thoughts, freedom to go out of social molds and bravery to stand up for her own integrity, courageously breakthrough the stigma of women in my country's society, open and broad minded, critical and sensitive to culture and societal dynamics. That's the kind of woman I'd aspire to be.
She is a bit kind of Ayn, but since she is local, her point of views resonate more to me.
🙂
What about you, Op?




Posted by Feral_doeDelta of Venus?
I don't have an issue with women who marry wealthy men. Their reasons are their own.
I admire Anais Nin. I love her writing, her perspective.

Posted by Feral_doe
@Ram416
She's a pisces sun/venus, cap moon. I like her take on submission and independence.

Posted by PoopMcPoopFaceOK Boss!
I really don't care but there's no way in hell am I gonna give freebies. You have to prove yourself a person of substance, class, ethical, compassionate and patient. I'm probably forgetting somethings but those things are important to me. Do what you want but don't expect nothing more than a whole relationship that is a transaction.
Posted by PV&JellayVenus Cazimi in 2nd for Oprah.
I aspire to be more like this woman. I want my own success.![]()
Posted by Harukkalol Clooney is already rich. 😛Posted by dolluxeHe said that Clooney marry her because she is rich ?
How is her being an Arab connected with his statement?
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Posted by Paleriomaybe one day you'll marry a woman like that 😛
Clooney's wife turns me on, big time.

Posted by PalerioPower.Posted by PV&JellayVenus Cazimi in 2nd for Oprah.
I aspire to be more like this woman. I want my own success.
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Posted by Montgomery2nd house sun, pluto 8th, scorpio mars 11th. lol 😛 😄Posted by PalerioPower.Posted by PV&JellayVenus Cazimi in 2nd for Oprah.
I aspire to be more like this woman. I want my own success.![]()
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Posted by Cancan26ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his money
in the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
Posted by Cancan26ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his money
in the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...

Posted by lisabethur8I think ...its because of what marriage means to me ...I believe that every person that marries deserves a partner that loves them unconditionally, the vows mean something to me ...for better or worse, for richer or poorer , in sickness,and health, to death do us part ...to pick and choose which vows you want to go by kind of cheapens the whole thing for me ....Posted by Cancan26ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his money
in the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
people are gonna judge anyway no matter what, so...whatever. pfftttt. I say go for it, if it makes you feel good and both are in total consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt is a sweet lady but in her personal life she was not very happy. Although she gave a lot of joy happiness to others though and lots of wisdom.
Marilyn Monroe, sweet and lovely she was and loved by men and women, she was also not very happy.click to expand
Posted by Cancan26Posted by lisabethur8I think ...its because of what marriage means to me ...I believe that every person that marries deserves a partner that loves them unconditionally, the vows mean something to me ...for better or worse, for richer or poorer , in sickness,and health, to death do us part ...to pick and choose which vows you want to go by kind of cheapens the whole thing for me ....Posted by Cancan26ehhh I see your point, but if women want to marry for money. let them. to each their own.
ok there is a difference between marrying a man that happens to be rich and marrying a man for his money
in the examples you gave eleanor roosevelt and marilyn monroe even though they are two totally different women are respected b/c they made a name for themselves not off the backs of their spouses
eleanor roosevelt worked her whole life to help others
and marilyn monroe ..pursued her dreams during a time when it was unheard for a women to pursue her dreams and goals
if you choose to spend your entire life with the sole goal of marrying a man for money ...then you should expect for people not to respect you ...get out and get your own ...
people are gonna judge anyway no matter what, so...whatever. pfftttt. I say go for it, if it makes you feel good and both are in total consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt is a sweet lady but in her personal life she was not very happy. Although she gave a lot of joy happiness to others though and lots of wisdom.
Marilyn Monroe, sweet and lovely she was and loved by men and women, she was also not very happy.
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Posted by littlenanobytethanks for the honesty. lol
I'm capable of supporting myself and it shouldn't be too difficult for me to eventually work my way up to being paid six figures in my career track, but with that being said, I can see the appeal of marrying a billionaire. I'm not going to be fake and lie about it.

Posted by LillyPetal
Firstly, I thought Clooney was gay?
Secondly, if that's what she wants, more power to her.
Posted by littlenanobytethat's why as I get mature and from too much dreaming and idealization of love till death do us part....
I mean let's be real for a second. Many people have all kinds of fucked up reasons to marry other people: codependency, "did it for the kids", people thinking that will make their S.O. start being faithful, their parents make them (arranged marriage), curing loneliness, because "it's what you're supposed to do by age xx", because the choices are getting smaller, good sex, etc.
I live in the south where kids get married when they are 16-18 years old, divorced with 3 kids by 21, and remarried again by 23. I literally know people who are twice, or three, or four times, married by the time they are 25. I know girls who are younger than me with three kids, each having a different father, by 25.
So how is marrying for money any worse than any of those things? It's not imo.
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by Paleriomaybe one day you'll marry a woman like that 😛
Clooney's wife turns me on, big time.click to expand

Posted by zerofromouterspaceWell, women who grow up wealthy are conditioned to desire wealthy partners. These are the sort people they see socially while growing up and they learn to value money as a necessary part of a relationship. I don't judge them for this. It's how wealth maintains itself.
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.
I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
Posted by SeasonPosted by zerofromouterspaceWell, women who grow up wealthy are conditioned to desire wealthy partners. These are the sort people they see socially while growing up and they learn to value money as a necessary part of a relationship. I don't judge them for this. It's how wealth maintains itself.
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.
I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
I'm not married to a billionaire, but I do know three, (billionaires). I don't feel this should in any way lower my self worth as a woman.click to expand

Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.
So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?

Posted by lisabethur8Exactly. They can't imagine a life without luxury. They live in mansions, drive luxury cars, vacation to the best places, own horses, ride in private planes... It's just their reality.Posted by SeasonPosted by zerofromouterspaceWell, women who grow up wealthy are conditioned to desire wealthy partners. These are the sort people they see socially while growing up and they learn to value money as a necessary part of a relationship. I don't judge them for this. It's how wealth maintains itself.
I'm not putting anyone down for choosing a wealthy anyone.
I'm putting down anyone whose choice is based on income. That's not even choosing to marry anything at all, it's just choosing your own comfort. Like you said.
May as well marry yourself.
I'm not married to a billionaire, but I do know three, (billionaires). I don't feel this should in any way lower my self worth as a woman.
yes. this. if they are used to a luxurious life, why change it?
and they see the commoners way of life and go, "omg...uh no. ew." and goes away. lol
j/k.
but that's what i'm guessing.
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Posted by MysticalSoulyour judgements are super harsh.
If a woman wants to use a man for his wealth, so be it. We all have free will and can do as we please. But don't expect to gain respect from others when you're completely capable of creating something for yourself but you choose to mooch off of people because it's the easiest route. It's pathetic.
Posted by MysticalSoulyou are not the boss of them, lady.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.
So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
Nope. I'm a female who believes women should work just as hard as men to achieve their goals in life. I find it ironic how most women wish to be equal to men but don't act as their equal.click to expand
Posted by MysticalSoulhaha ok. but you do sound jealous, and envious. and narrow minded too. Because, you were never in that situation, or you can't imagine being in that situation. For me, I like it that they want what they want, and if they can get that wealthy man, more power to you gal!!!Posted by lisabethur8lol, no. i'm not jealous. Maybe I just have strong views on things.. views that others disagree with. that's fine though.Posted by MysticalSoulyou are not the boss of them, lady.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.
So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
Nope. I'm a female who believes women should work just as hard as men to achieve their goals in life. I find it ironic how most women wish to be equal to men but don't act as their equal.
edit - plus I think maybe you're a bit "jealous"
cause only women with raging pissed off at other women do this,
if you c'est la vie, let them live how they want to live,
then you wouldn't care and only water your own lawn.
I stated that a person should put in hard work for what they want in life, not rely on others. Nothing about that mindset indicates that i'm jealous.
I let people live how they want. The OP posted this topic because she was probably curious about what others thought about it. I'm posting my opinion. Point blank period.
If people want to mooch off of others then it is what is it. I still find it pathetic though. It won't stop them from doing it, will it? No. I'm just putting my 2 cents into a public forum.
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Posted by AriesLovepfft she doesn't want to hear any "noble" intentions coming from women of this ilk. Pfttttt to her all women should be independent.Posted by MysticalSoulI doubt that was the message OP was delivering....becoming a leach of another person's money. We are talking about men "marrying" these women making them wives. And the examples of women she used had their own careers they just weren't as successful as their husband. If a man wants that type of women that's his business. I can't look down on her if that's the agreement they decided on.Posted by beautifuldayAt Least someone sees where i'm coming from.
I'm way to proud to live off someone else's money. I need to have my own career and individuality or I will become sad and unhappy.
I can marry a rich guy and have dated couple of millionaires before but I can't be just an arm candy. I need my career and my own goals separately from my partner.
Some people like to be independent and aren't okay with the idea of depending on others for things they can achieve on their own.
Much respect for you. Seems like you've got a good head on your shoulders.
But most people really aren't "independent" and people use the word too loosely. If you work for an employer then you are dependent on them for a paycheck. So you're dependent on them for your daily survival. If you get a formal decent education most people take out loans to cover tuition. You are dependent on the government for your education. The list goes on. Very few people can actually say they are independent. I don't see why you think you deserve so much credit for average shit.
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Posted by beautifulday
I'm way to proud to live off someone else's money. I need to have my own career and individuality or I will become sad and unhappy.
I can marry a rich guy and have dated couple of millionaires before but I can't be just an arm candy. I need my career and my own goals separately from my partner.
Posted by irreconcilabledifferencesawww. that sounds sad.
it sounds outdated
i think the women who would have been into rich men are now instagram hookers
or like their mom was a gold digger in the 80s
failed at nabbing a rich dude
now her daughter is in every dan bilzerian post
Posted by AriesLoveyou actually have a lot of valid points, but to these types of women, who would rather be on their own without a man, or if they have a man, they are equal. lolPosted by MysticalSoulI doubt that was the message OP was delivering....becoming a leach of another person's money. We are talking about men "marrying" these women making them wives. And the examples of women she used had their own careers they just weren't as successful as their husband. If a man wants that type of women that's his business. I can't look down on her if that's the agreement they decided on.Posted by beautifuldayAt Least someone sees where i'm coming from.
I'm way to proud to live off someone else's money. I need to have my own career and individuality or I will become sad and unhappy.
I can marry a rich guy and have dated couple of millionaires before but I can't be just an arm candy. I need my career and my own goals separately from my partner.
Some people like to be independent and aren't okay with the idea of depending on others for things they can achieve on their own.
Much respect for you. Seems like you've got a good head on your shoulders.
But most people really aren't "independent" and people use the word too loosely. If you work for an employer then you are dependent on them for a paycheck. So you're dependent on them for your daily survival. If you get a formal decent education most people take out loans to cover tuition. You are dependent on the government for your education. The list goes on. Very few people can actually say they are independent. I don't see why you think you deserve so much credit for average shit.
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Posted by irreconcilabledifferencesPosted by lisabethur8but they're so oldPosted by irreconcilabledifferencesawww. that sounds sad.
it sounds outdated
i think the women who would have been into rich men are now instagram hookers
or like their mom was a gold digger in the 80s
failed at nabbing a rich dude
now her daughter is in every dan bilzerian post
they have shows "how to marry a millionaire"
how long have they been trying jeezuzclick to expand
Posted by MysticalSoulPosted by lisabethur8Lol of course I haven't been in this situation. Have you? Have most women? How often do you interact with millionaires who are willing to take you out on a date? That's not the reason for why I feel this way. If someone's opinion opposes yours it doesn't automatically make them jealous or envious. I'm sure it would be awesome to be a trophy wife/gold digger. I'm also sure that if I, or any other woman, was given the chance to be with a millionaire they'd take it. That's something that no one ever refuses (seeing how human beings are money hungry) but obv no one wants to struggle in life. I just think a woman who is married to a wealthy man should atleast have something to fall back on. His money isn't your money and when he leaves you or loses interest you're back to square one. That's why it would make sense to at least make a living for yourself.Posted by MysticalSoulhaha ok. but you do sound jealous, and envious. and narrow minded too. Because, you were never in that situation, or you can't imagine being in that situation. For me, I like it that they want what they want, and if they can get that wealthy man, more power to you gal!!!Posted by lisabethur8lol, no. i'm not jealous. Maybe I just have strong views on things.. views that others disagree with. that's fine though.Posted by MysticalSoulyou are not the boss of them, lady.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by MysticalSoul
I feel as if a lot of women out there are just lazy. They'd rather rely on a man they don't love to support them than to provide for themselves.
So in that case the man is using the woman for a place to bust nuts on and the woman is using the man for a way to buy designer clothes. It's not even about love at that point, just about benefits.
Whatever happened to being with someone because you genuinely care?
are you a man??
because it seems like men are always pissed off, or feeling pissed off at women choosing wealthy men.
not all men of course.
but I get a lot of animosity from the men section.
is it something about yourself (projection) that you hate about these women who choose billiionaires/millionaires??
like you hate on those men too? because they got the power?
Nope. I'm a female who believes women should work just as hard as men to achieve their goals in life. I find it ironic how most women wish to be equal to men but don't act as their equal.
edit - plus I think maybe you're a bit "jealous"
cause only women with raging pissed off at other women do this,
if you c'est la vie, let them live how they want to live,
then you wouldn't care and only water your own lawn.
I stated that a person should put in hard work for what they want in life, not rely on others. Nothing about that mindset indicates that i'm jealous.
I let people live how they want. The OP posted this topic because she was probably curious about what others thought about it. I'm posting my opinion. Point blank period.
If people want to mooch off of others then it is what is it. I still find it pathetic though. It won't stop them from doing it, will it? No. I'm just putting my 2 cents into a public forum.
some women just can't get these men that's all. lol
"some women just can't get these men that's all." Include yourself in that list.
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so what do you ladies feel about this?
I was just wondering because sometimes I feel when I talk some certain ladies, and they discuss about maybe these women are controlled and I thought, hmm what does it matter if they marry a millionaire /billionaire? why does it offend some ladies out there?
i'm guessing lots of women look up to other types of women.
what type do you look up to?
this type?
I remember reading how MeganFox loved her and put her name or face on her tattoo but then realized how mentally unstable Marilyn was so she took it out or something. but lots of women in the world used to, or still look up to her.
how about this woman? Eleanor Roosevelt?
what types do you like? Ayn Rand?