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This topic was created in the Virgo forum by OProserpina on Saturday, August 4, 2012 and has 54 replies.

Virgo and the Sign of Service Explained

Virgo is often associated with service and practicality, but not all Virgos focus on helping others. Astrological signs reflect traits, but individual personalities vary. It is important to consider the entire birth chart for a complete understanding of a person's nature.

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@BoomShakalakaBoom
15 Years5,000+ Posts

Yes and No.

The context which this normally gets put into is what leads to most people understanding only a small part of this trait. However it is undeniable that Virgo energy is about healing (as with all mutable energy) and to truly reach healing Virgo MUST serve a purpose higher than himself, this purpose can often be purely other people, but it can also be an ideal.

Other than that, it always amazes me how it is mostly Virgo women who love to feed off negative energy by starting threads setting a "rebellious" tone aka "we are so miunderstood, we are not this, or that, blah blahh blah" I wonder..why not focus on the amazing qualities us Virgos have and discuss them too?

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@capbaby
15 Years

No. I used to cringe when my virgo's phone would ring. Why? because i knew it generally would take him away from me for awhile. He'd be off doing for others, or talking to someone for awhile when they needed a friend, etc. Now, I just accept it. It's part of who he is and in so many ways its also what I love about him.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Yes and No.

The context which this normally gets put into is what leads to most people understanding only a small part of this trait. However it is undeniable that Virgo energy is about healing (as with all mutable energy) and to truly reach healing Virgo MUST serve a purpose higher than himself, this purpose can often be purely other people, but it can also be an ideal.

Other than that, it always amazes me how it is mostly Virgo women who love to feed off negative energy by starting threads setting a "rebellious" tone aka "we are so miunderstood, we are not this, or that, blah blahh blah" I wonder..why not focus on the amazing qualities us Virgos have and discuss them too?

I love being a healer, but as far as serving someone else, forget it. Serving to me does not equal healing. Actually, I never thought of it negatively until I got into astrology and it taught me what servitude really meant. After that I stopped being as caring. When I learned that being the sign of "servitude" means that I criticize and bug everyone to death, and why because I'm trying to help them? Yeah, that's REALLY positive isn't it. While Aquarians get to be "Eccentric" or Scorpios "Sexual Gods" and Cancers "Empathetic Saints" or Pisces "Great Intuitive Goddesses"... and I get to be a fucking DOORMAT bitch brigade? Well, yeah, the positive person in me...doesn't want to read that shit. Sorry.

I don't want to feel bad about myself, and well, reading that shit...doesn't exactly make me want to claim my sign that's for sure.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Hahaha. I really don't have an ego. I definitely lately have bit of anger management issues though that's for sure. Virgos (maybe just women) do have a tendency to let things build up...(like a volcano)...and then pour out. I do want to be in control of how I'm treated, and when I get treated badly...at first I always have an impulsive desire to get back the person. Luckily it usually subsides and I go inward with it. Jealousy? not worth it.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Not to misrepresent myself. I really am a humble person, but I do find it to be easier to be humble with the less fortunate people of the world...or the under dogs...I really want to see them prevail, and fight for themselves to get what they want/need.

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If you can only be humble to less fortunate people, that means you are not being truly humble, you just like the fact you are more privileged than them so you can deceive yourself into believing you are truly "being humble" whil keeping your pride.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
If you can only be humble to less fortunate people, that means you are not being truly humble, you just like the fact you are more privileged than them so you can deceive yourself into believing you are truly "being humble" whil keeping your pride.

Fuck you for the presumptuous comment. Or MAYBE, I'm a rising Aries and that's my (shell)/ COVER UP for being a truly sensitive humble caring person (cancer moon/virgo sun). Ever thought of that? I hide that part of myself from other people because of my past. the truth of the matter is both virgo AND cancer can become VERY bitter when they've been taken advantage of a lot. they take it to a certain extent and then they become bitter. that's fact.

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I dont care about how you feel about it, if you thought we would all just tell you what you wanted to hear then you should have never started this thread in the first place, learn to grow thicker skin if you dont wanna spend a fortune on Kleenex while being on dxp.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

That being said...for the people I love I will do ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING for them. All I want is the same type of respect. Plain and simple.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
I dont care about how you feel about it, if you thought we would all just tell you what you wanted to hear then you should have never started this thread in the first place, learn to grow thicker skin if you dont wanna spend a fortune on Kleenex while being on dxp.

Oh, sorry, I'm mistaken. You know everything.

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Apparently if you are attracting so many assholes into your life that might have something to do with the energy you are giving off πŸ™‚ so make sure to create positive thoughts in your mind so they can manifest in your doing and in the kind of people you attract. I cant say I share your problem, btw.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Why did a simple question have to be blown so far out of proportion? I was just asking a simple question, and then you start presuming to know me personally? This is what pisses me off. How can you assume to know so much about me by one question? I asked it for a very minimal reason.

Instead of meaning it like

"Aww...poor me...everyone uses me"

I meant it more like

"Wow, I like working hard, and making sure shit gets done and people are happy, but some people sure can take it to the extreme once they know how reliable you are.. anyone else agree"

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You didnt just ask a simple question, you put yourself out there and actually described a lot of yourself PERSONALLY, so dont blame me for giving you feedback on that too, and dont play the victim card now on me, which is typical of you Virgirls πŸ˜›

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@BlueSandCacoon
14 Years1,000+ PostsAquarius

Would you rather expect a response like "yeah i agree lol" or a more elaborated one?

Some people tend to give more feedback than it's asked but you can just take what's of value to you and ignore the rest. You are not looking for an argument so it should be easy.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
You didnt just ask a simple question, you put yourself out there and actually described a lot of yourself PERSONALLY, so dont blame me for giving you feedback on that too, and dont play the victim card now on me, which is typical of you Virgirls πŸ˜›

Oh, no honey, let's be completely honest. ALL Virgo's play the victim card at times. I've dated a number of Virgo men. It's the same damn thing. How many cards of have you played?

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Posted by OProserpina
That this Virgo being the sign of "Service" shit is for the birds?

Yup. I do unto others as others do unto me. No more, no less. I treat people accordingly & reciprocate exactly what energy they give off. Simple as that. Except for my parents!! I will go extra miles for them happily.

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Posted by RealTalk

Posted by OProserpina
That this Virgo being the sign of "Service" shit is for the birds?

I treat people accordingly & reciprocate exactly what energy they give off.

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In my case Im not like that, because I know I can be more than just a simple mirror. The key in how people can heal each other lies in your ability to deal with everything that comes your way, in a positive manner, be it good OR bad knowing that you are a happy person inside and as such you always have yourself to fall back on, when other people are not responding positively πŸ™‚

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Like most youngsters do πŸ˜›

Its only later on that you realize that you have a limited amount of time on earth and that to build something lasting you are going to need other people's help, to learn to cooperate with others, so naturally at times you'll have to "serve" others, other times others will "serve" you. Nothing to be ashamed of.

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Sorry, in my case you must be referring to the Virgo I was till my early twenties, playing the victim card or any other card for that matter.. is for noobs πŸ™‚

Hahaha. By this did you mean exactly one year ago when you were the same age as I am now? Not only have you very presumptuously assumed to know everything about me, but you also underestimate my intelligence because of my age? Why PLEASE, do tell me more about myself, ignorance is bliss after all.

Oh...and by the way. Gandhi is a Libra.

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I know he's a Libra, you dummy πŸ™‚ the relevance of using him as an example had to do with SERVICE. Only Virgirls try to look for small details to get back at you when they know they cant fight the bigger issue at hand anymore πŸ˜›

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@OProserpina
14 YearsVirgo

Pretty sure like I said above...these traits you mention...include ALL of us Virgos. You don't give yourself enough credit.

You lovable know it all You

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Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Like most youngsters do πŸ˜›

Its only later on that you realize that you have a limited amount of time on earth and that to build something lasting you are going to need other people's help, to learn to cooperate with others, so naturally at times you'll have to "serve" others, other times others will "serve" you. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Never said it was. Goes back to my original point. Never said I didn't "serve" anyone & others didn't "serve" me. Stop twisting shit around.

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Posted by RealTalk

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Like most youngsters do πŸ˜›

Its only later on that you realize that you have a limited amount of time on earth and that to build something lasting you are going to need other people's help, to learn to cooperate with others, so naturally at times you'll have to "serve" others, other times others will "serve" you. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Never said it was. Goes back to my original point. Never said I didn't "serve" anyone & others didn't "serve" me. Stop twisting shit around.

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Not twisting anything around here dahlin' youre just taking everything too personally, as usual πŸ˜›

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Youre a Venus in Libra and moon in cancer..of course I know you're pretty and probably have nice beewbs too, like most cancer moon women do lol plus because Im a hot guy myself so I can smell a hot girl from miles pretty quickly too πŸ˜›

However, Im not too sure what to think of that tatoo πŸ˜›

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Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom

Posted by RealTalk

Posted by BoomShakalakaBoom
Like most youngsters do πŸ˜›

Its only later on that you realize that you have a limited amount of time on earth and that to build something lasting you are going to need other people's help, to learn to cooperate with others, so naturally at times you'll have to "serve" others, other times others will "serve" you. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Never said it was. Goes back to my original point. Never said I didn't "serve" anyone & others didn't "serve" me. Stop twisting shit around.

Not twisting anything around here dahlin' youre just taking everything too personally, as usual πŸ˜›

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No. You are twisting shit. You're annoying as fuck, as usual. What did I take personal? I'm confused. Just because I'm blunt & direct, that must mean I'm mad right? Why do presume to think you know who everyone is here? Get your head out of your ass...hahaha, maybe you need a dick up there, dahlin' πŸ˜›. FOH. SOME Virgo men can be real catty bitches.

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14 Years

This is coming from a Virgal with a Venus in Libra and a Moon in Leo, I think that we are servicers, you may have a negative view of the word service because of the way people treated you that you helped/enabled in the past? that was in a form of a question. I am definitely a helper/servicer however sometimes question it when I am used. For instance my childhood friend was in an accident her and her kids were okay but her husband had a skull fracture and had to have emergency surgery they had no money for the bills so I gave them money, she was gracious and appreciative and I would give them more if they needed it but another instance I lended a friend some money for bills and they ended up using it on something they wanted instead of the need they had, never said thank you and never returned the money. I felt betrayed. I think that we often get confused and want to change who we are based on how people react to what we do for them. There is a huge difference between an enabler and a helper and if we work on knowing that difference we wont feel so bad to be labeled the servicer/helper.
Helping is doing something for someone else that they are not capable of doing for themselves.
Enabling is doing things for someone else that they can and should be doing for themselves or getting them out of something that THEY put themselves into.
When we help and feel appreciated we proudly claim the title of servicer but when we are betrayed and used we feel like that title is another word for doormat, which isnt true but we are so critical of ourselves that we analyze everything. So to answer your question no I dont think its bullshit, I think we just need to work on being careful of who we help and ensure its not us enabling the people who dont deserve it.

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Posted by OProserpina
That this Virgo being the sign of "Service" shit is for the birds?

I went on to read the rest of what you wrote, and I immediately realized that you've taken a very dignified Virgo trait and objectified it away from it's sentient regard for (caring) for mankink through aiding them.

This term was never meant in the way you've twisted it ... it never referred to a Virgo being a slave to man, at every persons beck-and-call, as you've so lowered this amazing Virgoan gift, to suit your need for self-victimization.

When the Virgo loves a person, they show their love by aiding their partners lives, by easing the woes, by putting themselves out there as a crutch ... by serving their partners needs for the sake of comforting.

However, I realize that you will deny all of that because then it wouldn't serve your own purpose of being the self-assigned-victim

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14 YearsVirgo

I'm not quite sure why anyone would WANT to be a victim. If anything I've been the victim of some bad people. Which I didn't know until later, and actually had hoped that they were good. It does upset me, that anytime I say I'm hurt by someone...that I somehow become a "needy victim", like I am for some reason not allowed to say i'm hurt. As if it's better that I say nothing. Now, make no mistakes about this response. It's really a question.

So, I'm not allowed to profess that i've been taken advantage of? Is this what you're saying? I'm not allowed to feel taken advantage of because I do to some degree -serve- people, and sometimes they choose to take advantage? I'm human. It happens. I know I'm not the only one. So, call me a self assuming victim if you want. I never wanted ever to be disrespected by anyone I chose to give my love and "service" too.

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Posted by OProserpina
That this Virgo being the sign of "Service" shit is for the birds?

Posted by OProserpina
Oh, I definitely care a great deal about people, but I'm not here to "serve" anyone. I'm not about to be anyone's bitch. f-that.

Posted by OProserpina

... and I get to be a fucking DOORMAT bitch brigade?

I don't want to feel bad about myself, and well, reading that shit...

Posted by OProserpina So, I'm not allowed to feel taken advantage of because I do to some degree -serve- people, and sometimes they choose to take advantage? I'm human. It happens. I know I'm not the only one. So, call me a self assuming victim if you want. I never wanted ever to be disrespected by anyone I chose to give my love and "service" too.

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So, the truth finally comes out. You put yourself out there, BY CHOICE, and now feel unappreciated .... so you then decide to twist around what you read about Virgo being a service sign, so that you can use it as an excuse, in which makes you helpless in decision making on who you are going to help, rather than be accountible for making a wrong decision with whomever it is you feel took advantage of you.

Virgo being a person of service to THEIR LOVED ONES is what that terms mean ... and you just took advantage of it for your own selfish needs for retribution.

How dispicable you are.

Shaka was right.

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21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

Virgo serving the people they love is an admirable trait, and makes them deserving of being honored for it.

You just took it out of context to twist and use, by insinuating that you have no control over yourself in who you assist, and if this aide to another person isn't appreciated, then it's the fault of the Virgo being a helpless doormat who can't help themselves because they were born to be servants?

How fucking dare you.

martyr

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14 Years

Posted by OProserpina
I'm not quite sure why anyone would WANT to be a victim. If anything I've been the victim of some bad people. Which I didn't know until later, and actually had hoped that they were good. It does upset me, that anytime I say I'm hurt by someone...that I somehow become a "needy victim", like I am for some reason not allowed to say i'm hurt. As if it's better that I say nothing. Now, make no mistakes about this response. It's really a question.

So, I'm not allowed to profess that i've been taken advantage of? Is this what you're saying? I'm not allowed to feel taken advantage of because I do to some degree -serve- people, and sometimes they choose to take advantage? I'm human. It happens. I know I'm not the only one. So, call me a self assuming victim if you want. I never wanted ever to be disrespected by anyone I chose to give my love and "service" too.

OProserpina, Its apart of life. You are a Virgo, a servicer you like to help people, you do not like to be taken advantage of. Its perfectly normal to not want to be hurt and it's perfectly normal to state you have been taken advantage but you need to understand that the title given to Virgos as the servicer is not a bad thing. I dont think you are a self-assuming victim, i think you are venting about the hurt you have been feeling by the person who took advantage of you and thats perfectly normal as well. Only a miserable bitter moody person who is unhappy with their life would say something like that to make you feel bad for helping people. Through each experience you learn, this one has taught you to be a little more cautious of who you do help/service. Don't change who you are or your character based off of a bad experience, just pay more attention to red flags and be cautious. There is NO way you can know that someone is going to hurt you, you just have to take that risk but know this all that you do you will receive because karma is not one sided.

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